Is a white picket fence, 2.5 kids and Simpsons-style life still possible for young Americans?
>>62375779It is if you do homers job.
>>62375779He’s the fall guy for if the nuclear plant suffers a catastrophic failure, most zoomies don’t work in such a prestigious position.
>>62375779wasnt homer making 12/hr lmaooooooooohahahaha was the show just bullshit or a joke how was he able to afford a house, car and support a family on 12/hr
>>62375779Yes, if you invested in AI stocks 2 years ago.
>>62375878Simpson was written to represent boomers. It doesn’t make sense when they’re trying to represent millennials/early zoomers
>>62375779Sure is, just not for you goyim. We need a slave caste, thank you for cooperating.
this is what bought you a nice house in a safe suburban neighborhood just a few short years ago
To own a house that large with a garage and addition? Not for most Millennials and Gen Z living on either coast. Assuming you and your spouse live somewhere jobs are, a house that size with amenities is going to be $600k minimum. Most Millenials and Gen Z would need substantial help or savings to be able put down a down payment that wouldn't make the monthly payment the majority of someone's monthly take-home. Then you have to factor in mommy and daddy's car payments, health insurance for the kids...again, honestly unlikely unless their parents position them. Mid-road is $400-500k for enough bedrooms, still stand alone, maybe a driveway, probably not a garage or if it has one, it's probably not large enough to comfortably park your boomer mobile. You'll have a yard, you'll probably be close to neighbors and you'll be somewhere reasonably white.Most millenials are going to weigh the option of spending $375k - 425k to live in a townhome that has the bottom garage, a fairly large/new kitchen and a master, or, your stand alone options are 1200-1900sqft max and probably needs updating. That said, I would take old construction over new build. I don't know anyone who lives in any kind of new-build, mcmansion or mctownhome, that hasn't had shitty build problems.>t. locked into my starter home-3.1% mortgage foreverbut, life could be worse, it just sucks to live in a time where if the house is reasonably updated, it's one trillion dollars, and if it's not, you better DIY because you still can't afford contractors to update. I'd be looking at tripling my mortgage to make the jump to a larger house.
>>62375947Homer's farther is a Stonecutter who lives with them in some episodes. He probably bought the house at a discount with his club connections and sucked Mr. Burns' cock after a game of beer pong to get his son a good job. Homer just pays the current living expenses.
>>62375947> contractorsI know hedgies and PE are a huge problem with the housing market but people often overlook the issue with contractors overcharging for everything + shit like lumber skyrocketing in price. If you were to own a piece of land, contractors would still charge you MORE than the home's value to build the home (ie they'd charge $400k to build a $300k small home).They really are just another type of con middle-man.
>>62375939His is about $12 bucks an hour which is closer to $35 an hour today. So if you’re not making $35 bucks an hour you’re worse off than Homer Simpson.
>>62375779Not unless you're some kind of privileged class, so for actual americans nope dream dead
>>62375779Of course it's possible. But it's pretty unlikely for the majority.
>>62375947Easily doable when you're not white/trash because your parents don't kick you out at 18/ and or leech off your earnings. Sadly this kind of lifestyle is looked down upon by western women.T. 37y old khv sitting on mountains of cash
>>62376338>Contractor>Take out old cabinets and tiling>Patch and paint>install new cabinets>add new tile>install new sink and appliancesThat'll be $60,000 please.
>>62375939What changed?
>>62375939Bruh I had biweekly paychecks like that when I was 15 working at mcdonalds in the 90s. It would have been a little less than half as much, 15-20h weeks, but I had no dependents, rent, no food expense, no car or insurance or gas costs. I barely had enough money to waste on weed, CDs, and concerts. There is no fucking way. That wasn't a paycheck for a man with a family in the 90s, that is matt groening's boomer ass thinking about the 1970s or something.
>>62375779The marriage part is where I get stuck
the dream is possible but now you need to have a wife who also works, which is where everything falls apart. because a working woman will only marry someone who makes more money than her.
You could have 4 kids when the American Dream was possible
>>62375779>Stay at home mom>Father with a single job to support the entire family of four (4) including himself>Two vehicles >A two story house you can call your ownI'm like Frank Grimes barely scraping by thinking how the flying fuck is this even possible?
Communism out here selling dreams like a busted dude promising everybody a mansion while he stealing the fridge out the kitchen. Every single time they talk about “everybody equal,” somehow the regular people end up broke, hungry, standing in lines for bread while the top bosses chilling fat behind locked gates acting like kings.They be saying, “share everything,” but what it really mean is: “you own nothing, the government own YOU.” Wanna speak your mind? Nah. Wanna worship freely? Nah. Wanna disagree? Congratulations, now you suspicious. Whole system move like a control freak ex that gotta monitor every little thing you do.And the economy? Absolute clown show. Folks working hard just to get empty shelves and busted apartments while propaganda posters smiling harder than the actual citizens. History got receipts too — censorship, secret police, people disappearing, leaders acting untouchable while preaching “for the people” every five minutes.That’s the wild part about communism: it start sounding like a superhero speech and end looking like a prison with extra paperwork. They promise equality, then everybody equally miserable except the dudes running the show.At some point you gotta ask: if the system so perfect, why people always trying to escape it instead of rushing in?
>>62376424Episode came out in 1996, $12 per hour would be $25.47 today. Also note that he makes $19.10 in total profit (with bear patrol tax) $19.44 without bear tax.
>>62375806>>62375939I do Homers job right now, it's about ~2k USD a week during the slow season and 5.5k USD a week during busy.
>>62378701er oops, the 5.5k is before tax so more like 2k/w slow and 3.5k/w busy.
>>62378303>family of four
>>62378773Based
>>62376424>His is about $12 bucks an hour which is closer to $35 an hour today>>62378655>Episode came out in 1996, $12 per hour would be $25.47 today. Also note that he makes $19.10 in total profitGold is 11X since then.SPX is 12X since then.M2 is 6X since then.Hourly rate today should be AT LEAST 72$ per hour, if not a decent 144$ per hour.You guys are getting robbed.
>>62375779No. Were in late antiquity, not in augustean times.
>>62375779i live in the suburbs of philly. a house like that (2 story detached, 2.5-3k square feet) might cost $750k. to comfortably afford that house and 3 kids you would probably need a household income of about $250k. there's actually a nuclear power plant nearby, limerick generating station. senior reactor operators (extremely competitive job with licensing requirements) could afford this lifestyle, with overtime, of course.>During initial license training, Total compensation earnings eligibility ranging from $159,000.00 to $182,000.00 per year (depending on experience and past license status) including a 15% annual incentive bonus, an initial sign-on bonus, $10,000 bonus spread through training milestones, a comprehensive benefits package, and a 401k with employer matching on contributions.>After obtaining SRO license, Total compensation earnings eligibility from $191,000.00 per year, including a target 15% annual bonus, License Premium, as well as, extended hours pay at 1.5 times the base salary (expressed on hourly basis) involving mandated operation shift coveragehttps://jobs.constellationenergy.com/careers-home/jobs/134008?lang=en-us
>>62375939Abe Simpson bought them their house and they sent him to the old folks home afterwards IIRC.
>>62376936How old are you? Are there crusty 50 year olds posting here?Very creepy.
>>62379815you're here forever, lil niggermutt zoomlattoe
>>62378704Earning $2,000 per week equates to roughly $50 per hour if you work a standard 40 hour workweek. So you earn about twice as much a Homer.>>62378966>Hourly rate today should be AT LEAST 72$ per hourBuddy, I have some GREAT news for you. Due to hyper inflation you might be making that very soon.Most wagies kinda short circuit when you tell them this, but an economy only works if money flows in both directions. Since the higher ups hoard the money they earn, the only thing that's increasing in value over time are assets. If your wages go up, the only place it's coming from is the printing press. Sure, you might earn 144$ per hour, but if the average meal costs 100$ then nothing actually changes. Like the 55 years before, people will continue to want more money the government will print more. The wealthy invest, the poor spend.
>>62375779In show, Grandpa Simpson helped Homer buy the house by selling his own house. Some time after that Burns rehires Homer as Safety Inspector to look the other way on all the violations at the nuke plant. IRL, if you aren't a fuckup like Homer you can probably still have a small bit of the good life as a nuclear engineer. Especially if this electric future thing catches on. You want electric cars in every driveway? You will need a massive grid rebuild and build out. If you want to consistently power all those cars you will need either coal or nuclear power plants everywhere.
>>62379815I was born in 1983 you little shit. I am literally a refugeefag from somethingawful in the first wave our invasion of 4chan. You don't even know what that is dumbass. And yes, it's creepy. This place is creepy normalfag zoomigger. Get the fuck off my lawn. Also, you're here forever.
Viewpoint214.com can certainly help...>>62378408>>62378785
>>62375779>2.5what did he mean by this?
>>62380536>He thinks wage increase with the inflationYou need to be 18 to post here
>>62378966You think we don't know that? That's why we're here instead of trying to toil with the wagies to prop up Israel
>>62380536>Since the higher ups hoard the money they earnmost stupid thing ive heard. you probably think musk has one trillion dollars right?
