Reminder:The moon is made of poison.Unfathomably small shards of jagged micro-glass that have never has their razor edges dulled by wind or rain that eat through Kevlar space suit like abrasive fluid.It gets everywhere, and if you accidently inhaled a cloud of it, you will die, either shortly, or later due to its carcinogenic chemical properties (its also radioactive in the extreme).Neither the moon or the mars have a living core.This means:>A) Anything of value like gold or silver or tantalum or palladium sank to the core a billion years ago>B) Any atmosphere you terraform with nukes (retarded) would blow away. (Obviously, you cannot re-light a planets core, if you have that level of energy, you can just open a wormhole to another earth.)Asteroid mining is a meme.You cannot mine asteroids anymore today with Falcon 9 than you could 40 years ago.Roids (with heavy metals) are protoplanets, like mars and the moon their cores are dead, and that is where all the heavy rare earths are.You cant just land Curiosity on the surface and have it sweep up the gold and iridium into a bin.So you're either drilling to the core in space autonomously through a km of rock and iron hoping a gas pocket doesn't blow (not possible on earth autonomously), or you're crashing one here.In either case, you need the fuel to get a skyscrapers weight in robotic mining equpment to the roid to drill a km deep, or you need the fuel to move a skyscraper.This would be more fuel than has ever been launched, and you'd need fuel to get that fuel up there.Won't waste time on datacenter memes, theres a 4 second delay to the moon and back, on top of normal internet speed delays, and tons of noise.If you want to spend 3x the gdp of europe building dial up on the moon be my guest.Hope this helps.Hope you don't lose your shit due to unintentional ignorance.If you do now, its willful ignorance.
>>62377342cope
>>62377342https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/science-enabling-technology/technology-highlights/new-moon-duster-will-help-clean-nasa-assets-in-space/
Asteroid mining is absolutely the future actually and I will be signing up to be a rockrat at the earliest opportunity.
>>62377342I agree that cities on mars and the moon are a meme but we can have a science base there, there is valuable science to be done and I'd also like to point out that virtually all the apollo astronauts lived to their 80s.
The bean counters told me we literally could not afford to buy seven dollars worth of moon rocks, much less seventy million. Bought 'em anyway. Engineers said the moon rocks were too volatile to experiment on. Tested on 'em anyway. Ground 'em up, mixed 'em into a gel. And guess what? Ground up moon rocks are pure poison. I am deathly ill. Still, it turns out they're a great portal conductor.
Elon isn't going to the Moon, he's going to Mars. Which he is going to rename to "Planet X 420-69." SpaceX will make $1 trillion revenue per month from Planet X 420-69 mining operations.
You will never be a woman
>>62377361He was a hero, truly. Pioneer spirit.
>>62377342someone is pissed he missed out kek
>>62377351A typical small 200-meter asteroid (not the kind that have anything of value, but I'm using this for effect) typically has a mass between 4 million to 10 million metric tons.To change the velocity (the trajectory) of one by 1 (one) meter per second, you would need roughly 10 billion kilograms of rocket fuel using current best in class high efficiency motors.SpaceX has lowered the cost per kilo to $3000ish.7 × 109 kg × $3,000/kg = $21, 000, 0000, 000, 0000>21 TRILLION DOLLARSThe GDP of America for a year.to move a small roid by 1m/secIn reality you would need to divert it by at a minimum 100m/sec on the absolute best case close orbital path, or the sum total of humanities GDP throughout the 20th century for a single roid.Hope this makes it clear.You're not mining roids.
>>62377394>7 billion kg*, 10 is for the higher mass range, calculation is still correct
>>62377342dr;ns Bought more actually, kys fud nigger
>>62377394Sorry you just failed your rock rat exam. You're going to be a potato farmer stuck on earth.
>>62377394space x is worth 100 trillion dollars so it can move the rock easily
>>62377342you are 100% correct, but SPCX and modern economy in general aren't about anything real. it's just a falshmob replacement for the debased currency. and much like national currency, it comes with a founding myth.
>>62377394nothing serious can be done in space until we mastered nanotechnology which we ourselves are made of. at which point we can just wirehead in pure bliss forever and not bother doing anything(or, more likely we're killed by an AGI singleton which then proceeds to paperclip maximise its own version of bliss state forever)
>>62377394You could just use nukes to redirect itDonald will sell Irans nukes to ElonNukes can terraform mars alsoLook I’m going to make it this time, for real I can feel it this is the one the way it happens no bogged shit can keep us from being set for life on something this big
>>62377480baggie mindsetNGMI
>>62377349We finna vacuum the moon
>>62377349>gets inhaled>circulates in blood>nukes your balls
In theory we could seed Mars and the moon with extremophile bacteria and see if any survive.Perhaps after a few million years they would evolve a complete biosphere for future humans to live on.
>>62377537Just leave your suit outside.
>>62377549Wouldn't work thoughbeit.The core is dead, no plates or volcanism so nutrients don't get recycled.Bacteria would consume whatever energetic chemical bonds are left on the surface that haven't been broken down by cosmic rays in a few generations and die off.
>>62377394>roughly 10 billion kilograms of rocket fuelYou don't mount a rocket on the asteroid lol You use concentrated sunlight to vaporise small patches of the surface to push the asteroid around The DART mission showed that dumping energy into the surface of an asteroid creates a very effective jet effect, which was far more significant at moving the asteroid than the momentum of the impactor
>>62377918>in a few generationsThe resurfacing you're talking about is a concern on geological timescales. You could have a living Mars for thousands of years before you need to manually resurface it
>>62377552Wojack is in the driver's seat. The moron getting out of the suit is an NPC.
>>62377342That's cool and all... but the earth is flat and space is fake. Therefore "the moon" and "Mars" is just another domed area on our Earth and the Anti-Christ (Elon) will soon take people to Mars to colonize it while Christ comes back to rule from the Moon.
this thread is bullish for precious metals
>>62377932>you could spend a trillion dollars to grow an invisible layer of extremophile bacteria living for 2000 years and then dying offThe desperation to make mars a thing is real.Its not a thing.It had its time, its just dead now,If you want to argue venus...that seems impossible if extremely extremely unlikely, it certainly is for humans, but you might speculatively by able to create an organism that could survive those conditions, venus does have turnover or energetic compounds bacteria could eat, heat, energy, movement, protection from radiation, weather to churn the soup, etc etc.mars is impossible.its dead.a dead rock flying through space surrounded by the thinest vapors of an atmosphere, basically just a rock in a nebula in deep space.there is no energy or movement or cycling there and you can't create something from nothing.
>>62377342You forgot to mention that the microscopic moonshards are electrically charged, which means they stick to everything
>>62377537This NIGGERAPE still thinks humans are gonna be doing the physical exploration. Answer me this, little retard, what is Optimus for?
>>62377342>A) Anything of value like gold or silver or tantalum or palladium sank to the core a billion years agoThat’s actually completely wrong, without plate tectonics micro-fragments of meteors and asteroids containing precious metals are actually just sitting on the Moon’s surface. It’d be arguably easier to mine gold from lunar regolith than some ore deposits on earth.I mean, I know you never intended to make a real argument anyway, it’s just funny how dumb you and anyone else who uses this pasta is.
>>62377473Is intelligence a disease to the universe? All the end states that are likely seem dystopian and fucked up
>>62379967hmm, everyone keeps telling me not to buy spacex. the trannies on reddit. the chuds on biz. gee I wonder what I should do.
>>62379754Actually, if it's electrically charged, that might make it easier to clean just by using an electromagnet to succ it off.
>>62377342Some niggers thought there wasn’t a new continent between Europe and the Indies. Others thought it was impossible to go there. Go figure.>t. sold at 205
>>62380002you should at least wait for rate announcement.
Mars is retarded. Titan is not. I don't understand why everyone, including Elon, keeps getting stuck on the Mars idea.
According to every movie I’ve seen, space is real even though no one has ever been there.SPCX TO THE MOON!
>>62379996Yes, because it occurs to very few people to even attempt to maintain equilibrium or set up a sustainable ecology. Its almost always recklessly speedrunning the next power-up or technology, so you don't get clobbered by someone else.
>>62379006>mars is impossible.>its deadSays you.I'm a space cowboy, motherfuckerI'm gonna live and die up there
>>62380099If there's no electric current through the moonshards, then a magnetic field would do nothing to them. Magnetic fields only affect electrical charges that move.
