what exactly does space x do?
>>62378185https://content.spacex.com/cms-assets/FINAL_Documents%20and%20Updates/SpaceX%20-%20EU%20Prospectus%20(Approved%20by%20Bafin)%20-%20June%205,%202026.pdf
>>62378185Currently, it has the monopoly on heavy orbital lift.
Eats
lmao the jeet doesn't understand this scene
>>62378245Can't the Russians and Chinese launch their own stuff?
>>62378245How does it benefit a wagie like me?
>>62378310Means jackshit when American money isn't involved.
>>62378310They are 95% of the US orbital missions which is 60% of global launches.
what exactly does space x lift?
>>62378370best argument for value. the value is infinite
There's nothing for us in space
>>62378644my point exactly. space x has recovered exactly zero (0) magic moon rocks and im still a virgin at 43 years old. why tf would i invest
>>62378310Russia and China are still using expendable rockets. They launch domestic stuff due to geopolitics, but they can't compete with SpaceX on cost for commercial launches.There are US competitors flying or developing reusable rockets, like Blue Origin, Rocket Lab, Firefly, and Stoke, but they are all still years behind SpaceX.China is probably the biggest future competitor, but they are still a decade or more behind.Russia is floundering with Roscosmos on life support. They have new vehicles in development but it's questionable if they will ever materialize. I won't be surprised if Russia ends up buying all of it's launches from China in the future.
>>62378660OOOOH MY PAYLOAD IS COMING OUT BAYBE!
Star craft! Irl!
>>62378712Saar craft.
>>62378185no bro, you don't get it, they're going to put the extremely heavy, high heat generating, very sensitive to radiation data centers in space!!1!
>>62378310go ask Zhangbros to launch your shit tell us how much they charged
>>62378779The compute satellites will still be inside Earths magnetosphere and below the inner van allen belt. Heat is just a matter of putting an adequate radiator on it.It all really hinges in Starship. If they can truly pull off full rapid reusability, it will change everything. It will be cheaper to just throw up new satellites than to build out a whole complex for a data center.
>>62378310obviously, it's just they do it really really uneconomically. it's not a business for them, it's a national security thing.
>>62378660>picthe mass to orbit chart is even more impressiveunbelievable really, looks like a meme image
are these shills like ai agents or something? what is space x for? i have no intention of going to space ever for any reason, and i dont need space datacenters. dont need moon rocks. dont need to go to mars. dont care whats on europa.
>>62378660>Russia and China are still using expendable rockets.aren't rockets like 1% of the cost of the launch?
>>62378185>what exactly does space x do?scam company created to extract money from the goyim, very similar to bitcoin/crypto scam. US is bankrupt and they need to extract money in any way possible, taxation is not very popular and this is more advanced tactics, because they can extract money from retards worldwide.
>>62378310Have you seen Russian and china rockets?China specially is the most criminal thing a country would do to.
>>62378245starship has never done a heavy lift mission ( it has launched starlink but starlink statellites could be launched from any rocket.there is no use case for its monopoly (like launching such a big space station part, that no other rocket could do the same
>>62378625They use it to haul your momma out of bed.
>>62378185They sell shares. It's kinda like bitcoin but without the blockchain """technology"""
>>62378310The Chinese launch 1/3rd of all satellites yes.
>>62378842>Heat is just a matter of putting an adequate radiator on it.Absolutely false. Maybe it’s not too hard to dump a massive thermal load out to a radiator, but can you keep your chipset cool enough to work properly? That system thermal resistance challenge is very hard.>>62378884none of those are legitimate use cases. Are you so naive that you don’t understand why the government would want to carpet your sky with radios?
>>62378185bringing consciousness to space, apparently.
>>62378660The rocket reuse factor is exaggerated.For China's Qianfan, each satellite costs $1.5M. So launch service is about 60% of the cost; the payload is the remaining 40%. Even if launch service cost was reduced by two thirds, total cost would only drop 40%. It would be a difference, but not a difference large enough to actually matter; China is going to cough up the money anyway.As long as the cost is not prohibitive, the cost doesn't actually matter much. For China and Russia, a domestic version of Starlink is critical for national security reasons; paying customers are a bonus. The marginal cost of extending satellite internet to another region is essentially zero, because the satellites already orbit around the Earth anyway, so the Russians and Chinese can always match any price that SpaceX offers.So far, the satellite manufacturing rate and teething technical issues with the satellites have been the main constraints in deployment of Qianfan. Available launchers such as Long March 6A have been operating below capacity because of this.Russia also has a lot of launch capacity it's not using because Russia can't manufacture satellites fast enough. Russia used to launch a lot more before 2022, back when it still had foreign customers for launch services.For China and Russia, getting satellite manufacturing rate up and satellite cost down is more important than reusable rockets, for the time being.
>>62378185if you have to ask this then this is why you're poor
>>62378185They are heavily involved in IPO engineering.
>>62378185It's really good at hyping retail up with scifi fantasies. Any other questions?
>>62378644Satellites are useful.
it a pump and dump grift from a grifter not to be confused with The Grifter and Cheif (commander and chief)USA is based upon The BIG Lie
>>62379352typical ai agent shill argumentative tactic. you threaten with the thought of something that im supposed to fill in for myself. ok well imagine idc about any of that. your response?
>>62378185 >what exactly does space x do?1. US gov regular satellites2. US gov spy satellites. Elon is a front for the gov. >>62379078>scam companyLow iq take.
>>62378185You'd have to be the biggest fucking retard in the world to not understand why the ability to launch satellites, provide low latency network connectivity anywhere on the planet, and have the datacenter capacity to actually process all that data and interpret it with advanced AI isn't an incredible business.
>>62380313>>what exactly does space x do?>1. US gov regular satellites>2. US gov spy satellites.>Elon is a front for the gov.thisplus extract subsidies from the US taxpayerplus allow Elmo to fold losing companies into new high value companies soon to be losing companies in the infinite money glitch IPO shell game
>>62380332>You'd have to be the biggest fucking retard in the world to not understand why the ability to launch satellites, provide low latency network connectivity anywhere on the planet, and have the datacenter capacity to actually process all that data and interpret it with advanced AI isn't an incredible business.datacenters in space is an unproven hypothetical business fantasy, and has a 99% probability of being complete bullshit and pure IPO hype to inflate the IPO price 100x
>>62380336Except. The difference between Enron and SpaceX is, that Enron was a pure "energy trading" scam. They just were a scam . Gov is using SpaceX and it's the cheapest way for US gov to launch satellites. That's why US gov will be using Elon as front forever. >plus extract subsidies from the US taxpayerYep.
>>62378192>https://content.spacex.com/cms-assets/FINAL_Documents%20and%20Updates/SpaceX%20-%20EU%20Prospectus%20(Approved%20by%20Bafin)%20-%20June%205,%202026.pdfthe prospectus is not a serious document, it is a teenager's scifi wetdream, TAM of 28 trillion is laughable, but it got the job done and wall street fell for it
>>62380355SpaceX is essentially Space Boeing or Space Lockheed Martin using that logic.
>>62380413Yes. You should look up when the Minuteman II icbm arsenal is slated to be replaced.
>>623782452% of the company.
Okay hear me out, ROCKET$.
>>62380332so how much of that have they actually done so far. and how much of that do i actually need. my latency is pretty low right now its like 1 ms
thats with wires on the ground, not with $100,000,000,000 satellites in orbit. if its just orbital satellites why dont they call it orbit x? space x makes me think jupiter ect like i do not need anything in space. yall are going to realize there aint shit out there in space and it costs a whole lot to go out there
even if youre buying on the one theoretically profitable idea, the idea of space datacenters, first of all you have to come to grips with the fact that space datacenters require solar power as of our current understanding of physics, and an expansionist philosophy regarding these space datacenters (which is what ai will pursue in order to attain higher power) will reduce the total sunlight reaching earth. has nobody thought of this? what if they go hard as fuck with these space datacenters? you understand all life on earth will end? global cooling until plants cant grow because the sun is behind these orbital datacenter satellites. and no it wont be a perfect puzzle piece fit in the air orbiting around our earth, yes some sunlight will get through, but it will be the worst environmental tragedy in the history of the earth. and thats only if this theoretical concept of space ai datacenters is actually possible, of which space x has never produced a functional example of. there are zero other reasons to even buy this space x bull shit, and the only other "reason" would lead to the inevitable destruction of all life on earth. your response?
there aint no 7/11 in space, aint no bob marley, yall are gonna realize real quickly its just cold nothing for infinity out in space. the only reason youd be buying space x is if youre sun unbreathing machine ai person that can survive in a vaccuum and are shielded from radiation
>>62380716nigga why are you typing so much? who’s the artificially intelligent agent if you are here shouting at yourself?
Why does anyone pay for anything?Why does any product or service make any money at all?
>>62378660Reusable rockets are fake and earth is flat
>>62378185twittergrok/xAIsatellite ISPnow a $50B VSCode forkalso space stuff i guess but who cares
>>62381008your argument doesnt even make sense
>>62381172your mother doesn’t make sense.didn’t matter to me tho
>>62380433Minuteman II was retired long ago. Minuteman III is about to replaced by Sentinel, and the contract has already been given to Northrop Grumman.
>>62378185how far in the sand do you have your head buried?
>>62378245>>62378370This. People only shit on SpaceX because they don't like Elon. I don't really like him either, but the fundamentals are there. Space is the next step of economic expansion, and SpaceX is currently the top facilitator of it.
>>62382564Neither SpaceX nor Elon will exist by the time building anything in space becomes a serious scenario. You'll have to wait 500 years for your Mars colony.
>>62378185Turn Niggas gay with 69G space rays?
>>62381172post your short OPI want to laugh at you
>>62382646>Neither SpaceX nor Elon will exist by the time building anything in space becomes a serious scenario.You are able to post here and use credit cards thanks to satellites in orbit. It's THAT industry we're investing our money in. Not "Hurr durr, Mars!"
>>62379442>bringing drugs to spacehell yeah
>>62378842>Heat is just a matter of putting an adequate radiator on it.Which can only diffuse heat through radiation, the least efficient way possible. Have fun with a datacenter that's 95% radiators by mass for zero benefit.
>>62379352>>62382944The electronics can only generate as much heat as your solar panels can supply electricity. Conduction carries heat away from the chips themselves rapidly, then the radiators eject it.It's going to be a constellation of satellites with laser links similar to Starlink, not giant space stations with loads of hardware racks.
>>62383048>then the radiators eject it.Very poorly is the issue. Also regardless of whether you make a few giant space stations or numerous smaller ones you'll need massive overall power and massive overall cooling, and for zero benefit over just building a datacenter next to a lake or river and cycling water.
>>62378185Gives brown and black third world subhumans internet access
>>62383088>Very poorly is the issue.Why does this matter? Do you think the engineers haven't correctly calculated how much radiator it takes? Like what is it you are bemoaing?
>>62383486Do you understand the astronomical difference between a model on a computer and an actual prototype in space?I'm an engineer, I make extremely optimistic models all the time because it's very useful for our organization internally (if your optimistic model doesn't work then you know the idea is dead in the water). Out of every 100 optimistic model only a handful end up being remotely good under realistic conditions, but that doesn't mean it's not a very valuable tool to filter out dead ends.
>>62382944>>62383088>>62383570If I listened to you, I would come away thinking that no one has ever come across this issue before and this would be the first orbital infrastructure ever emplaced by humans before.
>>62383584I didn't tell you anything, I just tried to inform you of the credibility gap between model simulators and reality. I'm an optimist at heart, it's why I enjoy making models that make it seem like our prototypes have a fighting chance, but I would never tell anyone to invest in my company based on what our internal models predict.
