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How the hell is the US still outpacing Europe for economic growth after everything that's happened?
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>>62387239
Who cares
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>>62387239
Wendeez nuts hit your chin
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>>62387239
Because GDP has always been a meme.
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Too busy raping kids
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>>62387239
Federal job cuts and govt spending in key sectors, AI efficiency gains, imperialistic tariffs, deregulation. Basic economic theory. Everything the media said was bad was actually good for GDP growth
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>jump up and down on the street in front of wumbo sized Wendy, arms flailing desperately over your head, making a complete fool of yourself
>her huge eyeballs shift down to meet your diminutive form
>WENDY! WENDY! HEY WENDYYYY!
>the sky darkens as her huge smug face takes up your whole vision
>I-I-I love Wendys! I get a Breakfast Baconator every morning on the way into work! And I doordash the spicy nuggets all the time, twenty piece! W-with a Frostie, those are the best!
>she stares you into the ground for a few seconds before laughing like a thunderclap above your head
>her hand moves to one of her huge, bus sized shoes and begins slipping it off
>"well, how about a free ride for my favorite customer~?"
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europe is a bureaucratic hellhole, nothing happens without a massive amount of paper work, it's a nightmare for entrepreneurs, no wonder they can't into ai, all their researchers are in america
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>>62387388
/thread

You can't even shoot someone killing you in Europe. Pathetic nations all around.
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>>62387239
because 2/3 of their GDP dollar value comes from AI or AI related industry, the whole shebang is just make belief and it works as long as the rest of the world agrees to play along, which it currently does. But oh boy, the second the facade drops and everyone can see the corpse they're parading around as a savior of the economy..
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>>62387388
My problem (as an entrepreneur) is that to get soft funding, you have to precisely fit a mould. For example, there are lots of small check options, but only if you're associated with this university, or that university. Or only if you're a woman. Or only if you're working on climateshit. As for hard funding, investors don't want to take risk. I saw unironically a French investor who claim they only invest in pre-seed, but only if you have 100k+ ARR and their max ticket size is 250k and they exclusively lead rounds (meaning max round size is 500k). How the fuck is this pre-seed then, and why the fuck would anyone take 250k if they are already at 100k ARR? That's mostly an exception, usually the problem is they can't fucking decide and then cry about it.
But American investors are far worse, they don't want to invest in anything that's not AI. "Sorry but we only do preseed if you have clients. Oh you have clients uh... b-but did you talk to a big player ye- you did and you have a written statement that they'll buy at a high price if you can implement feature X? uh (damn, how can I say no...) oh uh w-we only invest if you have at least 100 b2b clients all paying 50k+ [these are series B stats btw]"
Worst part is Americans and their fans keep claiming it's the opposite, that American investors try to find a reason to accept while Europeans try finding a reason to reject. I want to punch Paul Graham in the face everytime he opens his lying whore mouth about America, SF investors, or YC, everything he says is the opposite of reality. But that also applies to other Americans.
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>>62387239
Why wouldn't it be?

* The US has far cheaper energy and chemical feedstocks.
* The US benefits from economies of agglomeration and network effects in important growth sectors such as information tech.
* The US isn't letting itself get bossed around by the US like the EU is, which makes the US look like a better place to invest.
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Is it not the most obvious answer in the world, I mean really if you actually sit down and think about it for 2 milliseconds
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>>62387239
I am european and I work like 4 hours a day and I spend my days strolling, drinking with friends and playing vidya.
That's how
we're europemaxxing
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>>62387239
wtf do you mean "everything that's happened"?
you mean europe fostering an underclass of people who don't and wont work? you mean europe actively building ghettoes and cultivating race riots? you mean europe taxing and regulating all innovation away? you mean europe dismantling its power plants to chase fantasies?
europe crippled itself economically and there is no financial reason to ever start a company here over the us so most of the great startups leave
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>>62387621
Sounds peaceful
Good luck with the foreign invasion
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>>62388089
What about the tariffs?
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>>62387239
Both the US and Europe are in decline, but both have very far to fall, in spite of acceleration. The US has always outperformed Europe economically, while Europe has mogged the US in history, cultural diversity, and art.
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>>62388362
And science and tech. The pipeline is often that europe invents some pivotal tech but fails to monetize it because the infrastructure for this is dogshit in europe, so either some us company copies it and wins the market, the european company moves to the us, or a us company purchases the european company and markets the tech through the main office.
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>>62388366
I agree but it's also the pipeline of the past. I'd also add that the US university research system is pretty good at science and tech discovery as well. But lately, a lot of the monetization and scaling manufacturing for non software tech discovered or invented in the US or Europe has come from China.
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>>62388374
Yes, it's true that modern US research unis are pretty good. However they are much better at publicizing their work than they are in actually doing novel work, in relative terms, compared to their EU peers. For example, pretty much all modern biology works on purely EU tech. But you will only read about what the US has contributed (or thinks it might contribute some day) if you look up information about biology advances.
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>>62388389
I don't know as much about biology discovery pipelines admittedly, but I could see that and it makes sense.
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>>62387318
> muh basic economic theory while ignoring consumer debt and wage stagnation

gdp numbers don't put food on the table for most people
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>>62387388
> muh paperwork

europe's been coasting on welfare and red tape for decades, now they're shocked the brain drain is real.
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>>62389710
Europe has been braindraining the US for a couple years now. The only reason it had gone the other way until now has been that the US is flooded with free money going around (ironic then that you blame welfare!) for business activities and salaries. But this has largely equalized for salaries (not quite there yet but you could say it's there if you add the work conditions and life conditions in the US have greatly deteriorated and many are no longer willing to get the salary difference to put up with it). It hasn't yet equalized for funding though, but it's become just hard enough to raise a business instead of a scam in the US that people who want to actually make real businesses don't feel the need to go to the US anymore (more like, US investors no longer invite them in, as it were).
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>>62388089
Man you really drank the russian propaganda.
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>>62387239
Is it really though? Or is it all just stock market inflation money bubble?
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>>62390247
>statistics aren't real
>>62390244
>russia made them
>europe is actually doing really well economically just not by any measurable metric
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>>62390270
gdp is well accepted to not be real in any way, yes.
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>>62387239
>took over the empire
>work harder and more
>have more resources, more land
Truly a mystery.
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>>62387239
Wealth is fake and gay
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>>62387239
Because as much of a shitshow as this country is, everywhere else is somehow even worse
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>>62387239
Because the US is still the place for people who want to make it.

Europe is just fucking stupid for regulations. Whatever you want to do you can't, and if you can it'll be fucking expensive because energy is stupidly high thanks to a bunch of globohomo regulations.

Also most Europeans have a shitty "good enough" mentality, probably because the government cucks them when they make it and has so many gibs it's barely worth trying. A Frenchie wakes up, has a croissant and cafe, goes to the book store at 10 to work until noon, takes an hour for lunch with wine, cheese, stew, works until 4, has more wine and food with friends and calls it a day. They live in a shit flat and rely on the government for basically everything (even their lunch is subsidized) but whatever
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Theyre gay and take too many holidays



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