>boss put me on a PIP 2 months ago>been trying to find jobs a few months before that cuz I realized there was no pleasing him >haven't found any jobs, its unreal how bad the market is, have this bad feeling its never going to get better>PIP ends on Tuesday I am an engineer. I started off as a tech and worked my ass off getting bachelors full time to escape manual labor. Now im gonna be that goy with a masters degree who took a 500 percent pay cut to do repetitive ligament destroying work. I honestly feel like god did this beacuse its too much bad things happening at once that are culminating into my total demise.
>>62388676>500 percent pay cut to do repetitive ligament destroying workTrades pay more than ever, especially vs pajeet-saturated office work. Skill issue
>>62388676My entire life has been nothing but fighting tooth and nail, working myself 1000x harder than anyone anywhere ever for 0.001% of what anyone else gets for free. I have felt that god is purposely shitting on me pretty much my whole life. It doesn't get better, it only ever gets worse. If anything happens to me that seem to be a good thing, I have 6 months max to enjoy it because that'll be taken from me and then I'll be beaten up and crushed down for added effect. It's a real comedy out there.So don't worry bro, you have a lot of time ahead of you to suffer far more. If there really is a god, he must be the most perfectly evil of entities.
The worst part is that in my meeting with my boss today he didnt mention if I will pass the PIP. He said he needed to talk with some people including HR. So 90 percent chance he is going to fire me but just enough chance he wont that I have to spend the weekend waiting instead of processing the pain. And if he doesnt fire me, I will be a totally buckbroken employee who will never care about a rasie and work 60 hours weeks. Like a absurd housewife that has no were else to go and she tries to esapce and gets rapped(applies to ghost jobs) even worse so she comes back to him. Thats me. I used to think my relationship with work was like between a man and a woman, were I am the man that picks and chooses women and is the one who leaves but its all turned around past couple of years. I am nothing but a side pieace female whore to these companies now, they treat me like a contract worker without paying me like one. They got us with not giving raises to match inflation, they got us with return to work mandates and now, they are going to get us by firing us and leaving us with nothing. U will get put on a PIP too, at the worst time possible also. They wont even lay u off anymore, they want to save a little bit of money by denying us unemployment insurance by firing us through a PIP. Was being in ur 30s a good excperince back in the day? There is no way human civilization would have gotten to were it is if it was always this bad for everyone. Of course, I am a faggot and just suck but the fsct of the matter is that PIPs and no jobs has been a very common trope on the internet lately
>>62388694Same thing with me with the 6 months to enjoy something, not a day more. I am realizing that we were supposed use those 6 months to prepare for the bad months instead of trying to enjoy it though. But all im asking from life is a steady job beacuse me and a lot of other people dont have any kind of support network or any kind.
>>62388691Manual labor is significantly worse in every way. If i HAVE to do it then I understand but dont sit there and larp like its not a miserable way to live. Aslo they pay is terrible, u have been reading fake news
i got laid off two months agoi get interviews for jobs in my domain but they are at the other side of europe (im eastern european)i just bought an apartment and im indebted to the teeth, i still think i can go out of this trade at break even, no way im staying in this shithole any longerall my ex-coworkers accepted low tier technical support / helpdesk / pajeet IT jobs but i refuse to do it because my gf would earn more than meah yes did i tell you? all women around me have fancy jobs with big salaries and 100% remote positions and company trips all over the world
>>62388697You wanted to be a STEM monkey from the 90s until 2020. No brown person could replace you in the form of an H1B. And unfortunately >>62388691 is semi-right. You will still be working 60 hours a week but you will make money. Invest wisely so you can afford all the surgery you'll need in your 50s and 60s. I keep trying to force myself to look in my old field but even those jobs aren't hiring. For some reason, I feel this will all pass when the orange retard is gone.
>>62388694you're ungrateful >>62388702you're getting it. to the both of you young men, be grateful. look up to the sun and give thanks. say out loud "thank you for my job, Father. thank you for my parents. thank you for my health." just be grateful and put that gratitude back into the system.
>>62388730fuck your mother
>>62388729You are casually acting like working trades isnt a shit way to live. Maybe if u are low iq then hammering in nails then getting drunk after work is stimulating enough but I woild personally rather just sell drugs or be full NEET
>>62388730Ungrateful for what, nigger? Tell me ONE thing I should be grateful for. I got my work stolen, I got abandoned by everyone around me when they were contractually obliged and paid to support me in ways so bad I was ordered to cease all internal communication and contact an ombudsman, every achievement I fought for got ripped off from my hands, I've been explicitly told I was passed on because I am a white man and they need women instead, everytime I'm given the time of day people lose their mind about how hypercompetent I am (because I was forced to learn everything about everything to even so much as get said time of day, when others just waltz in no problem). At 32 I restarted my life from 0, moving to a foreign country I had no tie to and no knowledge of the language of because that was my only option to avoid homelessness and bankruptcy. I had $23.5 left in my bank account when I landed. I present with 500x (true number, no exaggeration) the work-related metrics of my peers and I'm told I should never even think of an internship because it's too low by a guy who got a fulltime lead position with 1/1000th of this metric.Tell me one thing to be grateful about, nigger.
>>62388730What job? What health? Nigger, I have more injuries than war vets even though I've always taken extensive care of my body while everyone around was just fucking about and crashing their cars into walls for fun. And most importantly, why in the absolute fuck would I be thankfully for my parents who were the primary reason why I was fucked over my entire fucking life?
>>62388747calm down bro, take out your pants im going to give you head
>>62388753That's a kind of job, I see what you did there.
>>623887361. Dick2. As I said, I keep trying to convince myself to go back. Remodel work is ok. The rough-in/install is what sux. 2a. Trust me, I'm well aware I'm saying goodbye to sobriety if I go back. I'd prefer to stay away from booze and would prefer to be a DUDEWEED/shroom guy.
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>>62388744He's a retard that want other people to ruin their back and their health from all the chencial exposure just like him which is ironic beacuse he said u should be greatful for your health, which is true, which is why u should avoid manual labor
>>62388761It wears ur body down and everyone treats each other like shit and exposure to the elements gets old quick. There might not be any more white collar jobs left for any of us though
>>62388744Checked. What country did move to and from where?>>62388768Again, fully aware from experience. As you say, there's not much else out there.
>>62388772From cucknada to sweden. It was actually the best move in my life so far and I will be eternally grateful for the shitshow of a company that allowed me to do the move.
>>62388778How's the migrant situation?
PIP always means you're fucked, nobody recovers from that. Just make sure they fire you so you can get unemployment. In 2026, getting job is hard job, so good luck to you.
>>62388795not truei got out of two PIP's but i was working for a BPO company and my manager told me that they were putting me on it to calm them down lol
>>62388786Surprisingly, very widely overblown and not at all in line with my experience. I see a nig or a nog here and there of course, but it's easily 95% white people in public. I know there are specific areas where the dregs tend to accumulate, but even then it's not that bad. I also learned the same applies to crime, when swedes say everything is dangerous and such, what they mean is they heard someone play music loudly once, or some man got mad and his girlfriend one night and they raised their voice a little. Of course it's true that crime stats show an increase in various crimes, but it's also very overblown in my experience at least.
should put him on a BIP (boss improvement plan). if he doesn't improve, you'll walk
>>62388744>>62388747C'mon, lads. This is exactly the response I'm talking about changing. You can't control the rest of the world, just yourself. Changing your outlook is as simple as practicing gratitude every day. It will make your life infinitely better. Not trolling, just concerned for my fellow men. We don't have to live like this.
>>62388676a few years stocking shelves should teach you some humility. welcome to the trenches.
>>62388992>no responseEvery single time with you subhuman niggers who got everything handed to you.Pay me or fuck off.
>>62388697>I will be a totally buckbroken employee who will never care about a rasie and work 60 hours weeksdo you have any money saved? if not, you let this happen to you. not to brag, but merely to show a contrasting approach. I worked for a bank and they tried to get me to sign a paper saying I acknowledged my annual performance wasn't good. I said no. they replied I could be put on a pip if I didn't. again, I replied no and I wouldn't sign a pip either. 2 weeks later they gave me a bonus check, still laugh thinking about their face when they told me. after I cashed the check, the day it cleared I emailed the manager that he was soft and technically incompetent. a week later HR let me go and again, gave me all of my PTO which was like 3 months living expenses for me. I tell you this to show you that having money allows you be confrontational and advocate for yourself. people can sniff weakness and poverty a mile away. I had my entire summer paid for, and very fortunately found a remote position in the fall. money attracts money.
>>62389085>I had my entire summer paid forpoorfag lol
>>62389088strike a nerve slave?
>>62388676>>62388694Nigger everyone gets fired at some point in their career especially in this day and age. It’s just a part of modern kike run society. Quit being a pussy and take it on the chin. Something else will come up.
Blue collar is for low iq people. Not sure why this is even up for debate.
>>62389206Clinically retarded, illiterate, trolling? Hard to tell these days.
>>62389222Mad, coping or retarded. Hard to tell these days. Everyone wants to have high income while offering nothing.
>>62389222Nigger
>>62388706Trades are not manual labor. They are skilled labor. And sitting at a desk all day is worse for your health than being a welder or HVAC tech. Also, I don't know how much the trades are paying these days but I know this: an employed electrician gets paid more than an unemployed engineer.
>>62389236Yeah. Cope tradie
>>62388676Im in a union 20 years cant get a job. Youre not alone bud.
>>62389241Agism
>work for 800$ per month in Bulgaria(poorest country in Europe)>move to UK and find a duty manager job in a hotel>they pay me 2500£ per month (3300$)This might be considered a suicide tier life setup by many but I'm actually very happy. A 5x salary increase and a comfy job that doesn't go over 40 hours per week.
>>62389268Europoor moving to UK
>>62389045>no response Can you read, my son?
>>62389045How come your parents are poor?
>>62389362extraneous circumstances
>>62389365>>62389365Intravenous?
All I see is a bunch of unlikable whining pricks who take every opportunity to try and shit on people who do more valuable work than they do. Enjoy staying poor you useless dregs of society.
>>62389384I made more money than you last year and didn't produce a single valuable thing to society while doing it
>>62389012I already did it when i was young which is why I'll do everything I can not to go back
>>62389085I have some but in worried beacuse I already have a history of job hopping and needed to stay at this job. Plus I jsut dont think there are any new jobs this year or at least not much
>>62389416I did it too but what is pathetic is there are grown ahh adults doing it.
>>62389206I wouldn't be worried if I havent been looking for a job for over 5 months
>>62389416Join the Air Force. They’ll probably give you a good ass job because of your background
>>62389236U dont have to sit, u can stand, u can work from home, u dont have to inhale wlesing funes. Welding is awful for your health
>>62388730I'd be grateful to Satan when I get the opportunity to saw off your smug head but until then fuck you
>>62389426That's not a horrible idea
Get a tech job outside of the tech industry.Banks, insurance, public sector, F500 companies, etc. They need software engineers and have no concept of PIPs. You'll get paid less and have less growth but better than being a blue collar wagie.
THE problem is> EXTREMELY few (real) jobs available, as you mentioned> whatever job position there is, gets insta-botted within minutes of posting by literally hundreds (and sometimes thousands) of resumes, so your chances are already shot if you're going through the mass apply routeSo yeah, hate to be cliche but it's all about connections now. Caveat - the RIGHT connections, getting just connections might get you an interview but you're still very likely getting rejected again.
>>62388730>you're ungratefulhahaha, s-tier bait
>>62389507I actually get lots of interviews and have made it to the 3rd round many times recently yet I see the job being reposted which means its a ghost job probably
>>62388697The job market is not as bad as you think, it is just that doing job hunting online is worthless now due to AI and jeets spamming everything. Contact real people the old fashioned way and you will have more luck. Talk to your friends, family and network of contacts. If a job is treating you like shit you have to move on. or get your manager fired. The latter is not easy.
>>62389476No, PIPs are pretty universal ass-covering tactics for firing people in all large companies.
>>62389609Never in my life did a job I actually landed require more than one interview. I would tell them no thanks if they wanted more than 2. Multi-round interviews are a sign of a dogshit organization run by idiot women.
>Been unemployed so long might have to go back to my first job I had as a teenager and I'm in my 30s >We're not even in a recession yet>AI hasn't even started taking jobs yetYep this gonna be worse than the great depression x10
I suggest buying a tent and camping supplies if you haven't yet. Once they figure out everyone is going to be homeless they will have "supply chain issues" and the cost of camping supplies will moon
>>62389609Job gets reposted after your multi round interviews because it's literally HR & hiring managers throwing a tantrum that they can't find their PERFECT unicorn. If it were a ghost job, it'd either be:> rejection from the get go, just there to collect your data> they never respond to your application at all, again just a trap to collect your data and sell it to a third party scammeror> it's there to simply show fake growth to shareholders with zero intention of ever hiring anybody, this only applies to gone public larger companies though
>>62389711I've been involved in hiring senior tech roles at 2 companies, on the interview panel.We literally interviewed for 12 months+ without hiring anyone, because making a bad hire is worse than making no hire.
>>62389715> 12+ months> making a bad hire is worse than making no hireThen why bother continuing your gigachad Henry Cavill Superman Witcher unicorn hunting quest if it doesn't even exist? You're just wasting your company's money and everyone else's time.
>>62389715Is that what they told u lol?
>>62389651> job market isn’t as bad as you thinkYes it is> use your networkCritical advice. Network has always been a good way to get into a company but at this point it’s the only way. Which is why your first statement is wrong and dumb
>>62389431>be grateful to Satan when I get..waiting
>>62389362Boomers are retarded, live through the easiest time and history and instead of passing it down they just piss it all away on useless shit. In my case, my mom was a horsegirl.
>>62389476You clearly have never been anywhere near any tech related job lol
>>62389715I recommended several ex-colleagues at a job I was involved in the hiring process for. They were literally perfect for the job and had all the qualifications and the boss agreed, but they only had 2-3 yoe instead of 5+ as the bossman wanted. They all found jobs a few weeks later because non-retarded hirers (rare but do exist) judge by competence and not years on the job. 9 months later still not a single hire, the only people who make it through his screen are literally incapable of programming and have never worked with the tech we're recruiting for before as they clearly and explicitly state during the interview. They all explain they applied to this position (a senior role, not a junior or intern role) to learn about this tech and while they all have 10-15-20 yoe in webdev, they are so incompetent they couldn't tie their metaphorical shoelaces.
>>62388694God loves. Man Kills. The world is ruled by the wicked. Its up to us to be the change we want to see. Christ go with you and God bless you. Bear the torch of righteousness into the dark.
>>62389374Oh yeah. Add in a Schizophrenic father and we got a winner.
>>62389431lol, lmao
>>62390249Looks like someone struck a nerve.
>>62389206Most people get made redundant, I´ve had/have some pretty incompetent colleagues and even those haven´t gotten fired yet.
>>62388850> he's already on one. that's the problem.
>>62389236> sitting at a desk is worse for your health than welding fumes and busted kneescope harder, deskcel
>>62389236You're a retard. Skilled or not, trades will fuck up your body through accidents, overuse injury, and just general wear and tear. It's not an accident that many in the trades cope with alcohol and drugs. t. Former electrician now office monkey
>>62388697>they treat me like a contract worker without paying me like one.Holy FUCK that's what I've felt too.Some people are allowed to stay solid and secure because of their personal connections and the rest of us get bait and switched during the interviews, squeezed of what they can get out of us for a while, then tossed out when the knowledge transfer is done or the project is good enough for them to hand it to one of their buddies and take it from you. You get worked like a slave and then cast out. Chewed up and spit out.
>>62388795>Just make sure they fire you so you can get unemployment.I thought it was if you get fired you don't get unemployment.I someone tried pip'ing me too but I was protected by a higher up who realized that politics was fucking my shit up with a hostile environment so he mercy killed me with a layoff so I got a nice severance. After that I also got unemployment for my state.
>>62388691>NAH MAN MY DAD'S BOYFRIEND'S STEP DOG'S COUSIN'S BROTHER IS AN ELECTRICIAN AND HE MAKES $370K A YEAR WORKS 3 MONTHS EVERY OTHER YEAR DOING UNDERWATER DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTION IN ALASKA NO DEBT BTFO COLLAGE FAGS
>>62389426Mmm yes, go to the meat grinder goym
>>62390565And then all these boomer managers judging me in interviews telling me ive been bouncing around all over the place, its awful
>>62390249>she still thinks satanists are in it for the edge alone>thinking fascism is edgy, an authoritarian imposition of traditional morals
>>62389431I'd welcome you to try, sukdeep dikshit. I'll break every bone in your body if you come at me with a saw. Have you ever even operated a saw?
>>62388729>>62388736Retards, mostly 2nd anon.You get off of backbreaking shit after jman(4-6 years) and specialize. Or sales, or foreman, or estimators, or inspectors, or maint. Low IQ stay in back breaking
>>62390573No, you get unemployment only if you are laid off due to economic constraints or incompetence. Thats why PIPs aren’t that bad. You don’t get unemployment if you are fired for negligence (this can be fought if you have proof they set you up or if they were playing favorites) or if you leave willingly. Unemployment benefits tend to pay up to 2000 dollars a month depending on your salary. >t. Corporate wagie who dealt with it before
>>62391843And who might you be? How about you learn to speak only when spoken to.
>>62388711>ah yes did i tell you? all women around me have fancy jobs with big salaries and 100% remote positions and company trips all over the worldthe new system is in place permanently and working as intended
>>62388711>but i refuse to do it because my gf would earn more than meYeah, that’s a very good reason. Never let a girl out earn you. >t. retired at 25
>>62392253> >ah yes did i tell you? all women around me have fancy jobs with big salaries and 100% remote positions and company trips all over the worldDoesn’t bother me. Retired at 25. I know how damaging a 9-5 is and how even waking up at 7am is shitty and terrible for your healthy. Going to bed with an alarm is terrible too. No girl is out earning me. Trust me.
>>62388802>I see a nig or a nog here and thereKek
>>62388992KysI'm in a very comfy sport right now but most of my life has been a shitshow ripe with suffering. I'll be "grateful" when I'm dead. Until then it's hate, hate, hate and a lot of grit
>>62388730May everyone you love die of cancer before your eyes.
>>62388761Kys
>>62388802This post PROUDLY presented by a jeet.
>>62391855Ye bro, let me just causally go from doing interesting work to hammering in nails to build more houses for the jeet and beaner invaders that the boomers are gonna rent out to
>>62391907Wait wait wai. I've been tearing my hair out cuz I dont think I will get bennies beacuse i am on a PIP and ur telling me i can still get them? I called the unemployment office and they said 50/50 so idk man. Would be nice
>>62393091This is something I have to come to terms with as I get older. My luck isnt the worst b u t the people in my life, especially my biological family has been making.my life hell and I need to cut ties with them once my grandma dies. All the bad things that happened to me in life could have been way easier to deal with without my family making it worse.
>>62392212silly esl. you spoke to me and I spoke back. glad you adjusted your energy to match your grip strength, bitch.
>>62388676Is that Matteo or Matthew?
