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MANY SUCH CASES!

CHOP CHOP WAGIE, your jewish overlords needs another mansion

crush adderall xr with mortar and pestle to convert it to IR

>>62419732
Adderall? What are you some sort of man child? Get Vyvanse, pussy. Its what the elites take.

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ITT: meth heads in denial

>>62419981
impossible to abuse vyvanse

Brothers, those capsules, like the container, what the hell are they made of. I have to take many and they creep me out. It's not plastic, right?

>>62420003
gelatin

>>62419732
many such cases

>>62419987
>impossible to abuse XR stims
Uhh, no, meth heads just increase the dosage

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I usually spend a week or two in between refills. Life feels objectively better without being on meth, music sounds sweeter, the highs are higher and maybe the lows are lower. I'm hungrier but I feel much more tired. As long as I go to bed at a decent hour, everything's fine though.

I do have to say, I fucking despise my job when I don't have the magic pills. The day feels so much longer. It's just all-around worse. Life outside of work is better, but work life is simply intolerable for me now when I don't have my horrible meth pills. I hate it so much man.

>>62419732
what is the easiest way to get a script?

>>62420275
Look into bromantane. It's legal in a lot of coutnries so a lot of ex-meth/speed addicts who have nuked their dopamine receptors use it to restore dopamine levels naturally without any of the downsides that you get from amphetamines or other stims like modafinil which blocks dopamine reuptake.

It basically just enhances natural dopamine synthesis, so you never build a tolerance to it and you don't nuke your natural dopamine production or dopamine receptors in case you ever decide to stop using it. The soviet military invented it back in the 1980s and fed it to all their olympians because the heightened dopamine levels increased focus, mental clarity, etc. The olympics eventually banned it, so now the russkies prescribe it for illnesses like chronic fatigue syndrome

>>62419732
did you try atomoxetine?

>>62420290
Interesting, I'll look into it. I'm assuming you have to stop all meth/adderall/etc. consumption for a period of time before starting it?

>>62419732
thanks

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>>62419732
This is the harsh reality of being a wagie that the masses pretend to deny. With the current corporate landscape I think even wahman that had lazy girl jobs are starting to feel the pressure of shekelstein's boot on their neck (though their situation is almost 5x easier than their male counterpart wagies). Where I worked in tech anyone making over 70k and especially those above and near mid 6 figs were being worked to death. Constant 10 hour days and answering emails after hours and having to hop back on in the middle of the night to solve problems the useless off shore street shitters were incapable of doing anything about besides alerting a capable person stateside since they were double digit IQ street shitters.

Huge drinking culture (quite a bit of pot heads, myself included became one to cope). Had a guy on our team have to take a "sabbatical" which the company pretends is time off for vacation but requires a therapist note to get so it's really just giving the wagie just enough time to not fully implode and get put on psych meds to cope. I myself was having to rip dabs before work, smoke a pen at lunch and then smoke again after work before gym and smoke all evening after working just to be able to sleep and I'd booze and pop edibles all weekend just to stave off the sunday scaries. I've been a free man for over a year thanks to rotating crypto gains to index funds near the top. Can't fully retire but afforded a year off and over a mid 6 fig folio so now when I return to wage it's more of a take it or leave deal than "you will starve if you don't let shekelstein fuck you" kind of deal. I still dread the thought of it, I should be reviewing/practicing some sql leetcode rn and instead I'm shit posting about how terrible waging is. Sigh, at least theres a light at the end of the tunnel, one more year waging and feeding my folio and just a x3-4 here from crypto and I'm done for good with shekelsteins corprate hellscape.

>>62420328
>for a period of time
Just make sure it's out of your system and never ever combine bromantane with it. Adderall's half-life is only like 12 hours so 2-3 days should be more than enough.

A lot of people also combine bromantane with L-tyrosine, since that's the amino acid bromantane uses to synthesize dopamine, so the combination increases dopamine production pretty significantly. In countries where bromantane is not legal, a lot of ex-addicts use L-tyrosine alone to increase dopamine synthesis since that's legal pretty much everywhere. But bromantane is obviously a lot more effective

>>62420342
Also the effects build very gradually over a period of 2 weeks. It won't kick in very noticably like amphetamines do. If you stop using it, the effects will linger for a few weeks too, so there's no crash like there is with amphetamines

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>>62420339
This guy is about 5 years out of date. I make over 70k and any overtime i work i use it on Friday to leave early. This company liked me and hired me to manage their IT Department. Now that I am on top of things any downtime I have I use to self improve. I use AI to significantly drop time doing work, we are talking about months worth to days. I am way ahead of schedule and use my free time using AI to remove the headaches of other departments. Guess who isn't on the chopping block because I solved not only the pitfalls others in the company have but also saved the company an insurmountable money. You are "reviewing/practicing some sql leetcode" when in reality if you have some knowledge and can identify mistakes, you no longer need to use your slow hands to program write queries or structure databases, its all done through AI.
>If you are not leveraging AI to solve your problems, you really are CURRENTLY being filtered out
The homeless grow everyday and most are unaware about this filter event. It all ends with huge revolution and what is built afterwards you wont even know until its in place. A fair warning that it only accelerates. I built a full on functioning system without using cloud servers in only 20 hours. Without AI it would have taken 2 months minimum. This is no exaggeration

>>62420287
Looking for a way too. When I was in college a long time ago, I saw a shrink who was able to prescribe them for me. I barely used them but they were awesome. They gave me the final push to graduate. Productivity was off the charts. The amount of studying that I could accomplish in just like one hour was unreal.

They also felt good when I abused them but I only did it twice. I actually almost sort of enjoyed life. I was happy those two times. I socialized. I've given up on life now so I just want to experience what it's like to go to work on Vyvanse and to possibly be able to get through the day without contemplating shoving a pen into my brain.

A comfy office job drove my insane, idk how people do it. Humans weren't made to do office bullshit for 8 hours a day and then drive home in traffic. Most of the day was spent looking busy too. Took a year off, now I have to go back. Hoping some shrink will give me xanax or something so I can just zone out all day and forget. I don't care if I die, but my family would. I wish I was a girl sometimes because I'd love dressing up in a cute outfit and being a girlboss at work.

>>62420361
Amphetamines will fry your dopamine receptors over time and leave you far worse off than when you started, even if you don't abuse them. There are other ways to increase dopamine production without frying your brain. One example being this >>62420290

>>62420380
I'm already as good as dead. I finally bought the tools that I need to end everything. I just want one last hurrah. I went my entire life without using drugs except for Vyvanse a few times in college. I used some lame shit over the past year like benzos but the benzos are hard to acquire through my only supplier and they don't really make things hurt less.

I don't anticipate Vyvanse helping my mood but I'd like to just have a last few good months at work.

>>62420355
I'm talking about working with multi billion dollar multi nationals. Not a company of 100-150 ran by boomers that think cloud computing is magic and don't realize the infrastructure powering their org is still physical hardware in a data center lol. I had the same gig when I was a system admin for a smaller place staffed with dumbasses. When your boss has 140+ IQ and works himself to death he's gonna find a way to make sure he squeezes water out of rocks from his wagies that report to him and since he came up doing the same stuff he has a very good idea how long almost any task takes and can figure out if you're capable and if thats the case he's piling more work on you to compensate for the diversity hire nigger girl he had to hire because some HR cunt told him this is the rules.

All AI meant for me was now having to do Dev work on top of admin work since every company hires a bunch of street shitters to do their dev work these days which means when I push their shit code to prod it breaks stuff and I'm expected to fix their fuck ups creating more work for me. Maybe not everywhere, but I worked with a lot of teams and saw it at enough huge companies you know the names of to recognize how much more brutal this field has gotten while our wages and job security are threatened by H1B jam boys and diversity hires.

>>62420390
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not a big fan of SSRIs, but you may want to give it a shot before you tie the noose. Not like it can make things any worse, right?

>>62420404
I've tried several. They all made me feel worse somehow. The latest one I tried after things really went south for me was so bad that I had to run into a bathroom at work to hide while I had a breakdown like an absolute pussy.

I think that some people just have broken brains and they aren't meant for this world. I've made my peace with that but I gotta work up to the courage to do the forever sleep.

>>62420440
You could try L-tyrosine since that's legal everywhere and pretty cheap. A constant dopamine boost without any of the downsides that comes from amphetamine use might get you back on track. I know several people who stepped away from the edge after they began using that and/or bromantane

>>62420456
Also if anyone else reads this and decides to try it, DO NOT combine it with other antidepressants

adderal and anything similar is not available or legal in my country. its highly banned and even possesion will get you locked up. the closest thing you can find is either ritalin, or actual meth.

>>62419732
Just think, while you were selling your soul for a wage and breaking your back in the trades, male pornstars were getting paid to literally fuck milfs all day. "We're all created equal" LMAO!

>>62420456
I wouldn't know where to get that. I don't think that I can be fixed though and that's okay with me. I've been like this for over two decades and getting mixed up with the wrong woman was sort of the nail in the coffin. I've tried everything including multiple therapists and it just made me feel gay. Healthy diet, regular exercise, spending time with friends or out in the woods didn't help either. I've had a good life though. Thanks all the same for the suggestion.

>>62420440
Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
Vitamin K2 MK7: 200mcg
Magnesium Glycinate: 400mg
Get on this daily regimen ASAP

>>62419732
if you need adderall to get through your day, you never had a soul

Ah, yes. The goon pill.

>>62419732
I want off this ride

>>62420339
I'm low 6 figures. I have waging and at my end. Will try to sit it out until the next bullrun and quit forever. Waging is for cucks.

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>>62420323
this is what it takes for me to continue dealing in the real world

>>62420290
nothing is going to give you dopamine about exchanging your time for fake money doing something that actively makes everyone's lives worse

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>>62420440
Just came out of the physc ward a few months ago for attempting the big leave multiple times during a psychotic episode.

I'm actually a multi-millionaire, not a depressed wagie, just the stress of my 2 companies became so much that something snapped one evening.

Don't take physc drugs, why are you doing that? They forced them on me when I was in hospital but I stopped minute I was home, you don't take that shit. Once they hear you have suicidal thoughts they will push anti-phycotics on you, NO NO NO. Don't ever take them, dispense them if you need to if it keeps you out of hospital.

Have you tried saint john's wort, they were a game changer for me. Worth a go.

Also, if u do the big leave, make sure u aren't found if you survire or your life is about to get a whole lot worse when you are locked in the physc ward. I did make out with one girl in there at least, lol.

WE WORK
TO EARN THE RIGHT TO
WORK
TO EARN THE RIGHT TO
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>>62422269
try one of these

>>62419977
only gays take that

>>62420380
Dopamine recovers in 3 days.

>>62420390
>my supplier
you can get anything delivered to your door???? Are you retarded (yes)

>>62422901
Whoever told you that lied to you. If you've used adderall for 1 year, full baseline recovery and recovery of receptor sensitivity usually takes 12-18 months.

After several years of use, permanent dopamine downregulation is very common

>>62423114
That is retarded. I quit and I was fine.

>>62423152
Unfortunately your subjective experience on perceived happiness doesn't override the data from the dozens of studies done on this particular subject

Of all the things to cry about I'm not starting with adderall. It makes me feel generally better and I work harder/more focused with it. There's no downside. It isn't a hard drug, it's superior to caffeine, we are only on this planet for 80 short years, who gives a fuck about your apples and water straight edge lifestyle you're a low achieving cockhold. Every great man of history had his vice or thing.

>>62423195
>meth isnt a hard drug because a doctor gave it to me
Okay

>>62419740
My overlord is irish

>>62423160
Could you perhaps furnish some of these studies

>started taking vyvanse at 30
>become productive, able to focus, do all the things I was never able to get myself to do
>realize I wasted my fucking 20s as a zombie on the computer because of ADHD
Stimulants literally saved me, but sometimes I want to kill myself for not starting sooner.

so dramatic it’s just a drug

>>62419981
there is no meth in adderall or vyvanse

>>62423203

If I wanted to do meth, I'd do meth. I've seen what meth heads do. They steel copper and peel their faces off. I don't do that you dramatic baby. It's like saying caffeine and cocaine are the same thing.

>>62419767
It works better if you put it in aluminum foil first, because the balls bounce everywhere... you can also light it underneath with a lighter afterwards and inhale the smoke with a tube... this removes some of the side effects but be careful with your teeth, the smoke is really hot.

>>62420456
L tyrosine is only effective if you don't eat steak..it's just amino acid.

It can help if you don't eat well... having more dopamine in your neurons doesn't necessarily mean you'll use it in your synapses or that it will have an effect.

If you want to increase dopamine release, a good way is to take a cold shower. It doubles your dopamine for 4 hours gradually and your adrenaline for 15 minutes when you're not used to it. It gives the equivalent of a 2.5mg dose of Adderall IR (and 40mg of Adderall while you're under the cold water). It's a good way to use the adrenaline that can get stuck in the body and create constant stress and its don't give crash

Looking at the Sun in the morning (without a window) can also boost dopamine throughout the day by 60%.

... l-dopa also helps (mucuna pururien) but if you take too much, your neurons have too much dopamine and send it anywhere and anyhow, which makes it harder to focus on a single task... it unfocuses you because you try to focus on everything and anything.. I only use it in small doses to lift when I have really long and heavy sessions.

>>62423333
>L tyrosine is only effective if you don't eat steak
People who eat steak every day won't need L-tyrosine supplements for increased dopamine, but most people don't.

>Looking at the Sun in the morning (without a window) can also boost dopamine throughout the day by 60%
Agree. Artificial sunlight lamps also have the same function. I bought one because I live somewhere where it's dark half the year and it has a very significant effect on mood.

> l-dopa also helps (mucuna pururien) but if you take too much, your neurons have too much dopamin
I will look into this, thanks

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good
>nicotine
>beer
>weed
>coke
bad
>anything pharmaceutical

>>62423333
>>62423345
>l-dopa also helps
I just looked up why most ex-stim addicts combine tyrosine with bromantane as opposed to l-dopa and bromantane, considering l-dopa is one step closer to dopamine than tyrosine is.

Turns out tyrosine+bromantane has better synergy and l-dopa+bromantane don't synergize well and can lead to overstimulation like you said. But if bromantane is taken out of the equation, l-dopa alone seems to be far more effective than l-tyrosine. Guess I learn something new every day

>>62423160
0 studies say the same.

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>>62419732
I never caved in, even though I probably need it. It cost me my education and my career being delayed, and also not performing at my best when I work, but Injust prefer to not take it. I'm not even anti drug, I take fin and nuke my DHT I don't give a fuck.
Financially speaking, of course.

>>62423428
this is the kind of shit that will wreck you when you stop thats why im not a fan. if id ever fuck with it it would be very small doses and not daily.
interstingly enough small doses can actually cause your dopamine receptors to upregulate
https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-030-92392-1_108

>>62421767
every form of magnesium I've ever tried has blunted my emotions and made me tired and sluggish. not sure why everyone sings the gospel about it. d3 is fine but of course it sucks and calcifies your arteries without sufficient k2 and k2 mk7 makes me feel so fucking loopy every time I take it like instant brainfog and suicidal ideations for the rest of the day. meanwhile k2 mk4 ('natural' version) works fine but you have to take it like 5 times a day because it's got a half life of 20 minutes or something.

in the end i just feel better taking nothing, in 99% of cases. maybe 1/3 of a multi to cover my bases and some fish oil. everything else just messes me up somehow which I presume is my body telling me it doesn't want that shit.

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>>62420395
kek you had me goin with the first half but then after about 1/4th the way in you revealed your larp. Nice try tho but keep at it tiger and maybe youll make it out of summerfag status

>>62420440
you dont have to work up the courage to do the foreversleep,

because you dont need to do it dumbass...


when you need to do it you wont even think about it, and you will feel peace from the anticipation of executing the plan...

i have known many people who did it, they werent pussies like u,

youdont even want to do it.... but here is youre y(ou)

>>62423195
this is true ,until you realize alladerall is is fake confidence,

it makes you write a book you think is amazing until you become sober and realize everythin gyou wrote is fcuking shit,

>>62423160
Unfortunately you're speaking as a random on /biz/ about chemistry nobody asked you about.

>>62423195
You couldn't have made a faggier or more deluded post if you tried. Good job.

anybody got these through online ADHD diagnosis and then prescription? I need this shit bad

>>62420003
>those capsules
They used to made of water soluble animal based gummy such as cow, like those gummy candies you could buy from the walmart. But now it has color.

>>62420275
Unless you are fucking up at work constantly while unmedicated you don't have adhd

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>>62419977
I don't trust that shit. They tried to force me to get on it back in 2011 when it was new. Sorry but I am sticking to a medication that is cheaper, know what it does after using it for 20+ years, and didn't try to strong arm everybody into a monopoly. Chose to go cold turkey when they ran out of Adderall for 5 months than use Vyvanse. Why reward a company that hogged limited amphetamine production contracts more than once?

OP though is on Adderall XR which causes insomnia. No wonder why this person feels dread. Get the tablets. If you need to pull an all nighter take an extra half tablet sparingly.

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>>62420003
Gelatin. Found out from a pharmacy technician I know. This ain't vegan. Even watched one I dropped in the sink dissolve in water. They also stick to the pill minder container if it gets too humid and leave a residue. Plastic does not do this.

>>62426007

We don't have ADHD humans just weren't meant to sit through "meetings" and do make work email jobs. The need for medication says more about the current social paradigm than the individuals.

>>62419732
You post this a lot.

>>62426087
Yeah, this. When I'm hunting I have unlimited focus and can stay engaged for hours straight. But sitting at a desk?

>>62420339
dude, you are literally me...outside of having decent savings. fucking hate my job so much
i started smoking weed and taking other drugs to cope. i work long hours and the only thing on my mind is logging off so i can get high

nasty cycle and i'm not skilled enough to move elsewhere with a meaningful payrise, so im also back to learning sql.

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>>62424790
This is true
However you wouldn't have written shit without it, so its a win.
I was about to fail out of college, my GPA went from like a 2.3 to 3.8 in a single semester when i started.
I basically spent the 8 years of my higher education in a manic episode kek but i would probably be a minimum wage dropout without it.
Sadly life only gets worse after school and i genuinely lost the will to stay alive, so its taking 3 stimulants to keep me at a basic level of functioning.
Again its better than being a broke neet, or in my case homeless.
Very Faustian drug, literally trading your lifespan

>>62419987
>Addiction denial is a psychological defence mechanism that prevents people
from recognising or admitting their substance abuse problem. It is
important to understand that denial is not just a mere refusal to admit the
truth; it is a complex mental and emotional process that distorts a
person's perception of reality.

>>62429048
no i mean its impossible because you cant get a spike from it you stupid fucking mongoloid

>>62429060
Vyvanse is still abusable if you take a ton orally.
The abuse deterrence comes from the need to go through first pass metabolism, meaning you can't crush and snort like degenerates do with adderall

>>62429097
>The abuse deterrence comes from the need to go through first pass metabolism, meaning you can't crush and snort like degenerates do with adderall
this. albeit snorting is low-yield, oral consumption is enough to get the high.

>>62420290
where do you buy bromantane? The only site I've found is a polish one selling it under the name Ladasten.

>>62426007
I've been stuck in entry level positions for years because I keep making careless errors at work. I won't see a shrink to get stimulants though because my confrontation anxiety is too severe to initiate contact with an authority figure like a doctor.

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>>62420440
for what it's worth, I know I'm just a rando on the internet, but please don't do this anon.

>>62420440
Wellbutrin is literally made for people like you

>>62433205
I’m switching to vyvanse bc bup is ruining my word recall and making my hair thin. But it made me happier and hornier for a year at least.

>>62424426
highly unlikely you have such strong reactions just from magnesium or k2, its most likely some sort of nocebo effect

>>62420275
Can't say I felt this feel for many years because the last time I was truly out of my ration was years ago. In the meantime I have actually started SELLING my high ration.

even nicotine fucks me up, i hate stimulants

can you shill me something for calm, all i need is calm

>>62420290
Can this also reverse masturbation?

>>62419987
Not really.

I’ve never been able to enjoy porn as much as other people do so didn’t watch it much. But since being on strattera for 6 months I’ve been non stop gooning. It’s been heaven. I hope it doesn’t end

>>62434726
I take Percocet for a nice mellow feeling but they are highly addictive so use at your own risk.

>>62420339
Nigga u a lightweight.

>>62424426
You are supposed to take magnesium before you go to sleep retard.

>>62434726
If you search forums about atomoxetine most people describe it as highly calming despite it paradoxically increasing noradrenaline

>>62434726
CBD but it's very subtle

>>62419732
Here's a thread of like-minded people you can all chat with. >>>/lgbt/44079144

been on 30mg vyvanse for a few years but starting to feel very emotionally flat and worried its fucking by brain. but straterra doesnt work well for me. am i cooked, or is it time for bromantane...

Vyvanse is great but expensive. I just started taking 40mg and feel alive again

>>62440321
How the fuck is taking a stimulant the same as hrt in your stupid mind?