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Has anyone here ever discovered an edge, developed a working trading strategy, built some sort of useful screener tool or whatever really using AI? There’s gotta be something right

I’m no LLM expert but Claude really does seem insane nowadays, I used it for some data analysis but never really had an idea on how to use it to make some good trades
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>>62425771
in my experience, its all about your conversation with the model. if you just ask it point blank to build a money generator, it will look up trading 101 sites and use their methodology to create something that won't work. if you discuss your theories that you've built up over years of observation with it, you can actually prime it with what it needs to do well.
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>>62425815
Yes I’ve noticed that too. These models should really have the ability to say „no that’s stupid“. You really have to actively try not to fall into delusions when having conversations with LLMs because then they’ll just slowly feed into them. Claude is way better than ChatGPT when it comes to that but it’s still an echo chamber machine if you’re not careful. I guess the problem is then to have the initial idea yourself out of which a strategy or edge could emerge but I’m not really sure on how to „come up“ with something like that.
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Bump

Does everyone here seriously just hold Dino coins or does anyone actually trade cmon guys
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>>62425771
AI is only as good as the data you feed it.
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>>62425771
>There’s gotta be something right

Ehh not really. Every trader in the world is using these things, so you're back to the status quo ante regarding alpha.
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>>62425815
No, this is silly and stems from not understanding how competitive current markets are.
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itt: chatbot psychosis - loss edition
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>>62428206
Im sure that’s true for most basic shit but there’s still profitable retail traders out there
>>62428490
Real
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>>62431295
>there’s still profitable retail traders out there
when the market trends upward overall, most traders should be profitable just by pure random chance, not intelligence or strategy.
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>>62431306
That’s also true but there is definitely consistently profitable retail traders. I’m aware of the numbers floating around that like 90% of traders aren’t profitable but that’s also in a large part because a lot of people never properly try anyways
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>>62425771
Retard, the people using AI to trade are not using LLMs. They're using ML models trained to trade. 100% different animals entirely. And they're all built by people 3x as smart as you with billionaire backing. Give up trying to get anything out of a next-word-guesser.
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>>62425771
Yes. i can't tell you anymore.
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>>62428206
>Every trader in the world is using these things
Good god no they aren't. Investment firms use proprietary ML models specifically trained to analyze and predict. They are completely unrelated to LLMs. A different phylum in the world of machine learning, like diffusion models or AlphaGo, or recommender systems or whatever the fuck. No sane trader is using a goddamn chatbot to make trades.
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>>62425771
I edge every day
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>>62432565
I never said to use ai to decide which trade to take directly but to use it to build something that helps you get more profitable. Learn to read

>>62432586
Why
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>>62433090
So you're backtracking into a non position.
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I tried freqtrade with it's backtesting and the results always suck
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>>62433101
What’s that



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