I've been a NEET for a long time and I'm finally trying to get a job. I'm not young, 40 next year, and don't have a job history or references. High school graduate. How fucked am I?
I live in California, too.
What did you do for the last 23 years? Hard to help without more context. Do you have skills?
>>62449982Depression and NEET means not in education employment or training.
>>62449989So you were just playing video games all that time? I would train and sign up for the military or something.
>>62449998kys
>>62449998Even if I wasn't past enlistment age that's retarded. Jumping straight into military trading would probably kill me.
>>62450003 It's one of zogbots who recommend military to everyone
get a haircut, shave your beard, get a nice suit, remember to sleep well for 1-2 weeks before the interview, always smile and say thank you.
Your best bet is make money online
>>62450028Computers cost money I don't have.
>>62450080How are you getting food and other expenses paid for now?
>>62450007It would solve your depression and incelisms
>>62450086Magic.>>62450088Stop posting.
>>62450098I was going to try and help but no, stay poor faggot
>>62450099Liar
It's too late for you OP, you missed your opportunity. AI, robots and immigrants are making labor go to zero. Meaning no more jobs for you.
If you're in the US travel to mexico, and then from there travel to asia or something, broaden your horizons before some disabled downy recruiter manages to convince you to turn yourself into cannon fodder\fertilizer for shlomo
This isn't even trolling, you're just a bitter asshole trying to pick on someone to make yourself feel better. You're a loser.
>>62449961There are no skill jobs such as security guard, food delivery etc. Try applying to those.
>>62449961You'd better hope you're a trans black retarded disabled vet then. Otherwise it's doordash and walmart greeter until you die.This is the endgame for all NEETs. What did you think what going to happen?
>>62450206It's OK you'll lose everything soon like most north cuckmericans and you'll both be equal (broke), except you spent all your time on a hamster wheel
Too bad I can't get serious posters. Just one or two attempted trolls.
>>62450437Go apply for a job then retard why are you still here
>>62450440It's 4 in the morning, fuckface.
Just make up a story you worked for your parents business or something the last 20 years and now they retired and sold it and you need a job. Don’t walk into McDicks and tell them you haven’t done shit in 20 years.
>>62450437You are entitled manchild. You got your answers. Entry level jobs or army. Those are your only options beside killing yourself faggot. That is what your get for over 20 years of parasiting on your parents lazy nigger
>>62449961Any job that requires an application like your pic you are pretty fucked unless you can find a way to lie on it, otherwise seek jobs without an application, plenty of ads on Craigslist for stuff like construction work or simple labour jobs. For the most part you just call the listings and as long as you sound normal, motivated and willing to work asap, they will have you on for a test day. They may ask to meet on site 1st for a quick in person interview before hiring but most of the time they just do the phone interview, they may ask question about experience, you will have to lie and say you’ve done general labour work in the past and can complete any non skilled labour no problem. Once you get your test day then you just have to not be the slowest guy on the job site and you will get the job
So, none of you know what you're talking about? I've got one guy crying bitch tears because he realized he wasted years of his life working minimum wage for nothing and another guy actually recommending Craigslist odd jobs. Holy Christ on high, we're all screwed but at least I'm not as screwed as you!
There is a reason having no job history at 40 limits you to options like the military and it isn't because of the joos or evil corporations. It is because having no job history at 40 speaks very clearly about an aspect of your character highly relevant to a potential employer: you are lazy, unfocused, and irresponsible. And if you don't already know that about yourself, you are also severely lacking in self-awareness. The military will take you because they can essentially beat you into usable shape. Who else will want you? Nobody wants to hire a problem.
>>62450695>11pbtid lamenting how screwed he is>"at least I'm not as screwed as you!"
>>62450832Only desperate places like warehouses and factories. If you pick the right one it isn't the worst career path, show up to work every day and do a decent job and they insta promote you to manager within a year.
Seriously OP. An entry level job is your only option at this point. You're not going to get hired for anything higher unless you lie on your application, and I don't think you could even do that right
>>62449961Get some volunteer or part time work tangental to what you want to do so you can spin it on a resume. Look for any certifications that aren’t scams in what you want to do or any self study for getting the skillset or training. Work in unskilled labor in the meantime. You are in a good spot for a lot of unskilled labor if you’re sober, no criminal record and healthy. Grind toward a skillset in the meantime
>>62450832Don’t listen to doomer zogs. A 40 year old who can show up to a job sober and consistent is worlds ahead of much of the younger generation
>>62450858This is true - if you get an entry level job, show up reliably, do decent work, and don't be an asshole, you will be promoted quickly. But the op has done exactly nothing for twenty adult years. Do you think he is going to suddenly start hauling his ass out of bed every morning at 7 sharp, get his grooming shit together enough to be presentable, get to work, and take orders from younger people eight hours a day for a year? Not going to happen. And employers know it. A kid fresh out of High School at least MIGHT be somewhat conscientious. OP's track record speaks loud and clear. Sure, he can lie on his app and make up some shit to get a job, but the truth of his character will out. He doesn't need a job, he needs a transformation.
>>62451026No, in all probability making it to 40 without ever having worked means you're probably incredibly mindbroken and cursed. Just being optimistic lol
>>62449961You're pretty much fucked permanently, anon. But welcome the challenge. Make some YouTube videos about your quest. Your life. Some faggots will at least give you some patreon donations, provided your channel picks up
>>62450832>it isn't because of the joosJust can't help it, can you
>>62450437What do you want? To be spoonfed?>>62450098You sound like the troll here. "Magic" "stop posting" lmaoNEETing is the ultimate troll but you troll yourself by turning yourself into a life long loser.>>62450003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirmJJmTNjwThis guy did it and he's older than you. Why can't you?You have 20 years left before you become totally useless in society and won't want to work, realistically much less than that.
>>62451093>jews want 40 year old losers to work>jews spend time online giving sage advice to 40 year old losers onlineI don't even think he's jewish. Anon may be a leftfag but his advice is pristine. Get some fucking discipline and transform yourself.
>>62449961>How fucked am I?Approx. 100%. Nobody will ever want to hire you with a 20+ years gap in your resume. I know because i'm just like you, just 2 years younger. But at least i used my free time to invest and run side gigs so i managed to get myself a $200k cushion for when my parents croaks. It's not perfect but it will leave me some time to figure things out, because i'll always be on my own, nobody will ever hire me, and they'd be right, i'd do an absolutely atrocious wagie.The question is : why now? Did your parents die and didn't leave anything behind for you to survive on?You have to put yourself in the employers' shoes : would you hire yourself if you were the boss? If you are honest the answer will be no. So you'll have to open your own business if you want to survive. And you can do quite well outside of the wagecuckery loop. Personally i'm insanely lazy which is why i'm a poorfag, but per hour i earn much more than the average wagie.The only issue is you'll need a little bit of capital to get started, how much do you currently have in savings?
You keep acting like I did something wrong. I did all the hoop jumps I was supposed when I was younger. Nobody wanted to hire me then. I gave up for a while, the depression or whatever hit. But that wasn't my fault, I needed help but all I got was abuse. Just like this thread.
>>62451269Yeah, life is a bitch, but you are supposed to have figured this out in your 20s, not at 40. Still, not everything is lost, but you have to change your mentality. I guess you watched a shitload of animus in your free time. Do the MCs keep whining and bitching? Or do they keep struggling against all odds until they achieve their goal? You need to have your typical shonen MC mentality from now on anon.
>>62451296I guess it doesn't really matter. I have to turn my life around somehow anyway. But the raw hatred pouring out at me from this thread, my God.
you have two options, one is to find a way to move to a third world (classical sense, not total shithole with no food) country that doesn't already have a tourist scene and teach English for about half of what a licensed professional would earn. the other is to day trade and hopefully snowball that money into something usable
>>62451269How did you spend a typical day for the past 15 years? Did you develop any unique skills or creative hobbies that could be leveraged into potential employment?
>>62450851OP is right
>>62451345Mostly videogames and books. After my Internet got cut off by my mother after an argument I just kept to my room a awhile and apparently fell into a deep depression. My early attempts to get a job flopped for the most part and since I'm miles away from town with no car or driver's license that was kinda it. There's no jobs in the middle of the woods at the end of a freeway. And then Dad got sick so I had to help Mom take care of him until he died, and now my mother is nearly as bad off as my dad was so we need either a live-in nurse or to put her in a nurse home, because I can't take care of her by myself.
>>62451331People hold on dearly to doing what is considered the normal path in the world is. They fight it like life or death because it is what their entire psyche grasps onto for safety. They get comforted by putting down anyone who doesn’t align to that path. They rebel at the concept a deadbeat 40 year old could still work and get lucky enough to get ahead of them, or an alcoholic who fails out of high school could sober up and start a wildly successful business. The concepts of grace and redemption are against their worldview that they alone steered their life how it “should” be
>>62449961> 40 next year, and don't have a job history or references. High school graduate.How fucked am I?I'm a neet who occasionally gets bored and decide to work regular jobs.I come into the interview drunk and my resume is 100% made up because I tend to quit these jobs after a few weeks.Literally just lie and make shit up that lines up with where you are trying to get hired.
>>62451403Damn that sucks, but like I said earlier now that you have nothing it's a great time to leave your country and to travel, get a backpack and start trekking
>>62451041Whoever facilitated OP's deadly inertia really fucked him over.
>>62451523There are people who have worked all their lives who still have nothing lmao, maybe you're one of them
For added, free bullshit, I have several teeth with severe cavities. Some have broken off and the gums grew back over them. One is basically hollow.
>>62451403You could leverage this experience with your parents into being a personal care aid or home health aide for other sick and elderly patients. These jobs often struggle to find local workers and have to hire international workers after proving that they could not find a local to take the job. Even rural areas and full of old sick boomers and its growing.
>>62451331Truth you don't want to hear isn't hatred. Learn the difference.
>>62451705You're in California, apply for every single possible free service they have and physically go into a government center to get someone to set you up. Just spam apply to absolutely everything and make up Mcdonald's tier work history since they'll almost never call references (even better if you have a friend to lie for you though). Aggressively save every penny when you get a job and you'll be alright. You need to try to force yourself to be as optimistic as possible during the entire process and be comfortable with stretching the truth or coming up with a story about what you were doing, everyone does this.
>>62451718Great advice, some of these positions include a dental plan I believe
>>62451705Which I just looked up and could cost thousands of dollars. Medical night not cover it either. >>62451718The reason no one wants that job is because it sucks. Have you ever changed an adults diapers? I would rather eat buckshot then do that again. Besides, I don't think it pays more than a grocery store cashier anyway.
>>62451733You've already done it and have experience in it, honestly this seems like the natural way for you, it's like life has been preparing you to deal with shit, adult shit
>>62451729Oh good God, are you serious? I can't do the job anyway.
>>62451539People who have worked their whole lives at least have learned HOW to work and have a resume to prove it. But that is really only the bare minimum. There is much more to a fulfilling life, much of which has nothing to do with work or money, but still arises out of self-discipline, skill-development, and emotionally maturity.
>>62451705Dentalfag reporting in.If you post some pics I can tell you which ones could be saved with a crown and which you should have extracted ASAP
>>62451705Forgot to add you need to fix your teeth by any means necessary, even if it means ripping that shit out of your head because if you don't it will kill you slowly and painfully by infection. Just aggressively pursue free state services.
I like these threads, it makes me feel better about my own life. But OP seriously how did you get to this point? You would think alarm bells would be going off in your head at age 25, 30 etc. that you need to get your shit together, for fuck sakes your parents aren't going to live forever.
>>62451099It's thieveryHe can't admit to crimes niggaYou dense
>>62451403Wow shouldn't have cut internet mom lol
Healthcare or zogbotNeither a comfy choice, but assuming healthcare, you can start sweeping floors then move up to some sort of auxiliary nurse, nursing assistant, then nurse eventually. You could reach 6 figs, but the path would take a fair amount of humiliation, wiping floors and boomer feces
>>62451745This anon is offering something genuinely good for seemingly free. I'm just noting that
>>62451063OP check out this guy sno0ks on YouTube, he has just gone through a similar life experience to you and has vlogged about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsdy_yaQAQ&ra=m
Go to school Get work experience Get a real job Jesus Christ most people figure this out when they’re 18 years old you god damn retard.
>>62451745There's nothing to save, I have two teeth that are broken off at the gum line and the gums have grown over them, another tooth lost the back half above the gum line and my lower right molar is broken on top and has a chunk missing. They all have to come out.
>>62452288What school? I'm already a high school graduate. >>62451821Food stamps, dum dum.
What about trying to start a business? Self employment? Why do my only options have to be depressing bullshit?
>>62453356
>>62453356Both are better (best?) options for wealth if you don't plan on going to college and also marrying someone who went to school. Both preferably masters degrees or higher.
>>62449961I have an online friend who was a loser NEET for like 10 years, he's still a loser but he started editing videos for youtube channels for a % of revenue and one of them popped off and he's made around 220k in 2 years. If you are autistic about something and use the internet, it's possible, though you have to get lucky and work hard still
>>62453356You need some capital to get started, whatever biz you want to open. And since you sound incredibly lazy and your body most likely haven't a single gram of muscular mass, you probably wont do anything outside, correct?Then you need to make cash from your computer.I started scalping and flipping TCGs back in 2016 with $4K invested. Slow start but it eventually paid off after a bunch of smart picks on my end (no sealed, i focused on singles at release i thought could become staples, extremely risky and you need to be very good at the game itself to correctly identify unnoticed bangers). Once i secured more cash i could start to focus on vintage staples and that's where the $$ are. Cashed out 100K total so it turned out pretty nicely.If you have zero you can try to make AI pornslop, twitch content or stuff like that. But starting from scratches, with zero visibility, zero social skill and no determination in a field ultra-saturated with mega grinders who want to succeed... i don't think you'll go very far. Not to discourage you, but what you have showed us of your personality so far tells me you most likely will end up as a beggar living under a bridge.
>>62453510Video editing is a shitload of work hours, if you reads OP shitpost you'll quickly understand it's out of his reach. He's basically asking if we can give him a winning lottery ticket, and when we tell him it doesn't work that way, he whines.
>>62453557You would need a computer for that and an Internet connection. The desktop unused to have died several years ago and I'm only allowed to use the wifi with my phone. I would have to move out completely first.
Also, if you guys could calm down on the personal attacks? I didn't do anything to deserve that shit. Whatever boggeyman lives in your head isn't me.
God, it feels like I'm having panic attack after panic attack.
>>62453723honest to god you should go work on a boat/ship, get paid to roam the seas and hear stuff on the radio and sleep in the middle of the darkness of the ocean and occasionally see whales.
>>62449961This is why I tell my neet friend to grt out and go grab a job, even packing groceries before you reach 40 something. YOU WILL REGRET NEETING
seconding personal home aide/caregivergotta get your shoe in the door somehowhttps://www.uscareerinstitute.edu/online-caregiver-schooltuition: $4852-4 months online part time training
Become a trans prostitute
I guess I need to see a dentist soon. That's next to do, I guess
Oh, is this the bump limit? Threads about to slide off the board?>>62454560You're insane or a glowie.
>>62454560Can always start with trans feet pics. Get them all pedicured and female-passing first of course.
Are you artistically inclined?No shit, you may be able to draw furry porn. Those guys still pay out the ass for commissions and even though AI is a thing a lot of furries refuse to use it to get their porn.
>>62449961Good call making this on a Monday so you get the extra seethe from wagies that had to go back to work.
>>62455814I hadn't thought of that. Lol.
>>62450003You're practically dead already, I mean come on, can you really say you've lived at all as a NEET? And Hegseth in his infinite retardation raised the enlistment cut-off to 42 so it's an option.
>>62455832You're not completely screwed, by the way. You'll have to work entry-level jobs for a bit to build references and show stability, though. In order of priority highest to lowest:>phone/internetYou're posting here so I assume you have either one of these. Phone is important.>dentalTry federally funded health centers, medicaid, dental schools, county clinics, and free clinics>getting care for your momYou can't even take care of yourself so try to find your mom some care. Try eldercare locator to start.>transportationIf you're rural and don't have transportation that needs to change. The end goal here should be getting your license to drive, but if you never drove before that could take months so you'll need to find something in the meantime. >jobIf you're rural this might have to wait until you have transportation, but the goal is entry-level work to build a resume/show stability. If they ask about work history tell them you were out of the workforce for family caregiving and health reasons.also apply for any assistance programs you can. have no shame in doing so. they're there for people in your situation
>>62449961Your options are disability, construction or the military. Say you were caring for your mom. I'd try the military first while you are still eligible. If they declare you ineligible then either try trade school or use it as an excuse to claim disability.
I can't get an angle on my teeth to take photos, I'll have to get a dental mirror later.
>>62456122Nope, sorry. My phone camera can't take pictures worth shit. At least nothing seems to be infected.
>>62450111How is that a bad thing? Thats a good thing.
>>62451426I hire and fire guys all the time. Honesty is important and if I catch a whiff of a liar in an interview its over, but in your case this anon is right. You have to lie on your resume, a 20 year gap would not make it past HR to me ever. You must research enough to be able to answer questions about what you put on there as work history so don't go too crazy. Such as explain to me in detail exactly what you did day to day at your previous made up job. Good luck.
I got into tech support without prior knowledge at 39. It's only replying to customer emails and phone calls.Yes it doesn't pay much (40k Euros here in Germany) but it's enough for rent and an ok living. Not enough to have a car though. The best part is that's it's depending on the company 30%-100% remote and honestly...it's easy work. Yes A.I. will replace you in the next couple of years but there are maybe 2 years left to make a living with it.
>>62449961You all speak about entry level jobs, starting his own business, or the (((military))). But don't you anglo people have low level public servant exams? Class IV employee.They are super easy, basically, to pass the exam, you need to know how to write, to count, and to have a minimum of general knowledge. Once you pass the exam, they don't care even if you are 50. Sure the wage is minimum, and you have absolutely no way to evolve professionally. But they will not ask question. You only have to pass the exam.
>>62453510Where did he find the clients?
>>62453537Is the card market too inflated/saturated to bother anymore? Or do you still scalp?
>>62457793>Honesty is important and if I catch a whiff of a liar in an interview its over, but in your case this anon is right. You have to lie on your resume, a 20 year gap would not make it past HR to me ever. You must research enough to be able to answer questions about what you put on there as work history so don't go too crazy. Such as explain to me in detail exactly what you did day to day at your previous made up job.This is a low key admission job history doesnt matter.
>>62457884No that doesn’t exist here. You can’t get a government job unless you’re a gay disabled Jewish black female veteran.
>>62449961Do a trade or some type of apprenticeship through military or come to Australia and do FIFO (fly in fly out work). High pay, stack LINK. There's always hope fren
>>62450003Depends on your country, but it's a good place to save by milking the free stuff.Pick a civie equivalent job that isn't too physical and coast.If you're not stupid enough to buy expensive cars and burn money on strippers you can save a lot (hookers are a more efficient use of spending money on women).Get in, get out and collect gibs if you Jew your medical correctly
>>62449961why do retards who ask how to get jobs never, EVER talk about their skills, experience (yes, you can be a NEET and still have experience even if you have never had a job), hobbies (that can be converted to jobs) and interests?not asking about this particular OP, but about people in general...
You've got me searching for stuff from high school now. 20 years ago. Jesus.
>>62458604Because they don't think they have any skills or experience. And how would they evaluate that anyway? They have no frame of reference.
>>62458676being ignorant about their own employable skills is exactly the reason why they should mention skills, experience, hobbies and interests.they could simply say "I like X, Y and Z. do you think any of these things can help me get a job?". even gaymers can work as testers.I was a NEET once upon a time, and I knew I liked computers, reading science and engineering news and stuff like that. that got me a job.
just end it bro
>>62449961kind of fuckedyour best bet if you have a car is to get a job working overnight at McDonalds or another 24 hour fast food placeif you aren't obviously a druggy or look like a psycho they will hire you on the spot, seriouslyor just lie on your resume and get any menial wageslave jobjust research some businesses that used to exist in your area, for example find restaurants that went out of business and say you worked as a dishwasherif they ask about gaps in your resume you can say you were looking after a sick family membermake everything before the last 5 years or so a small business that you owned and operated yourself, for example lawnmowingso your resume should look like thisgraduated high schoolworked for yourself as a believable small business like a lawnmower"my business was destroyed by covid"began looking after a sick relative for 2-3 yearsworked as a dishwasher, or cleaning toilets, or some other thing for a business like a hotel that went out of business recently in your town or a nearby town. for 2 or so years until 6-12 months ago when that business closedbeen searching for a job since thenproblems with this method:- if they check references you're fucked but no one does for these dead end jobs like McDonalds maintainence or dishwasher. there are services you can hire which pretend to be references for you but it shouldn't be necessary- if you don't have a car you're just fucked, you need it to have a leg up on other applicants for these jobs. I'm pretty sure I was hired by McDonalds the moment I said I had my own vehicle and could be available to start at 2am- if you get the job you're trapped in a hell dead end wage slave jobsource: same situation as you OP but I was 29 rather than 39
>>62458735Why, my life is better than yours. >>62458848I live miles from any McDonald's. I've got a convenience store, a place that used to be a bowling alley but turned into some other business I've never been in, OR a several mile trip along a freeway.
>>62449961>>62449979Some sort of low entry Zogbot job;Coast Guard is easyNational Guard idkNavyAirforce Avoid anything army related and you'll be alright.t. Same boat but turned it around
op unironically save up enough money for a pressure washer and sign up for one of those indepdent contractor apps and start pressure washing boomers drive ways. save up enough to buy or lease a car then pivot into driving uber. this is your only realistic path to making any kind of money beyond minimum wage
>>62460390By driving for Uber? You okay man? You wanna talk about it?
>>62449961Most strip malls have a staffing agency that would jump if anyone without a felony came in. It'll suck at the beginning but that's what you get for wasting 23 years of your life.
>>62460633?uber drivers crack $40/hour where I am
>>62460716Well, that's unusual. They're getting very lucky.
>>62460737I’d be surprised if they don’t make at least $25 an hour in most metro areas and the peripheries where do you live if you don’t mind my asking that they are legitimately only making minimum wage?
>>62460759>make $25 an hour>spend double that on gas and vehicle maintenance. How exactly is that supposed to pan out?
>>62460789maintenance isn’t that much if you have a newer car, and I’m pretty sure driving some shit box is against uber rules anyway you need to register with a relatively new cargas eh maybe you have a point but they’re still out so it’s obviously profitable I highly doubt uber drivers are making minimum wage except in some super rural area where everyone had a car. And I know for a fact they make decent money where I live
>>62460802So I need a high paying job to get a nice new car so I can ruin it working for a lower paying job? I live in California, gas alone would fuck me sideways. If I had a nice car I'd leave. Go to Oregon or Washington.
I just realized I'm going to need to learn how to pay taxes.
>>62461781https://www.irs.gov/individuals/free-tax-return-preparation-for-qualifying-taxpayers if you make less than 69k a year you probably qualify
trucking. self-driving trucks are a meme and still decades away, if you're a company driver you can pull down 80k clean with little overhead. most companies will hire you on the spot if you have a CDL and a clean record
>>62459478yeah you arre going to have to drive miles to your jobyou DO have a car right op?
>>62462365>if you have a CDLthey have pivoted to only hiring jeets as of a year or two ago
>>62460802it's all jeets and other browns that cheat the system by having 3 drivers share the same car and uber accountyou're lucky to make minimum wage after gas, tax and wear and tear
>>62462416Actually, sharing a car makes sense. You at least split the cost of buying a car between you. And the insurance.
>>62462448Triple the maintenance, but you have support from your other drivers
Is playing the lottery viable?
Sorry, I need the thread to stay up a little longer.
>>62449961Similar to you OP, 40 years old, only 1 year office job experience.Although I did learn programming in my free time. I am also taking care of me and my mother's estate which includes 3 rental properties and a sizable stock portfolio. I also taught myself ancient Greek, some Japanese, and some Russian. I read about business and finance daily.I'm pretty sure I could be useful in an office setting, especially one finance or real estate related. Not necessarily because of my real estate or finance knowledge, but by being very comfortable using unix utilities, setting up servers, writing programs and scripts, and setting up web services. That, in addition to understanding, tax, finance, and renting.I just don't know how to frame all these for an employer. I'm thinking it'd be easier to start an online agency.
>>62465843You sound like you've got it made compared to me. Good luck on your agency.
>>62449961Close your eyes.Imagine a career.Now make it into a resume.There is no employment gap.
And, bump
Work should be vocational. Just do voluntary stuff that you feel is important or do your own thing. Anything else makes one miserable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f4qnU1oOoc
>>62449961I'm in a similarish position to this guy. I'm 38 and I'm thinking of becoming an actuary. I'm a math PhD dropout (have a master's I guess but I never bothered to apply for graduation) and I've basically been NEETing since. Work part time in a warehouse but that's not relevant to anything. Now someone my age switching to actuary isn't unheard of but usually they have a continuous record of experience in something that can give them an advantage, like being a teacher or w/e. I haven't taught since grad school which was a decade ago. I have nothing to show for my gap. Unironically how fucked am I? I have no chance of being hired recent grads because of my gap that only possibly be interpreted as laziness and apathy right? Passing the first round of exams would be easy but it costs money and it's likely for nothing if I don't get hired.
>>62449961Felling like sharing my story with you OP:I've dropped out of college in 2016 because I learned too little too late that the degree I was aiming was worthless.After some shitty jobs, I moved in another country to be a traditional gunsmith (old lath, files,eating steeldust daily, basically turning raw material to toys for adult) but I wasn't very good at boot licking my teachers.I did acquire all the skills I need but the last thing they do to fuck me in the ass was to denied me the diploma for shady reasons.Went back to my hometown, did a lot of different jobs (from manufacturing to car insurance assistant) while trying to figure out a way to be a gunsmith and I did found one.Moved out from my dad's home (so he could not drink 1/4 of my paycheck anymore) for a city 200km away, I was happy since I could finally trying to live a normie life testing guns, even for a pay way below what I was providing to the company (+140€ every two month for risking getting shrapnel'd alone in a soundless booth) and it lasted 8 months before they found the level of lead in my bloodstream was too high (apparently air evacuation was failing and they didn't feel the need to inform me) and I was fired for "incapacity to do the job".Moved back with my mother to get healthy again and I did, but apparently my resume scare the normies, even when I try to lie or sweeten it, so since I live in a touristic area with old farts waiting for the sweet embrace of the reaper and turbowelfares negros of all colors, I tried to get into another trade but the joboffice providing refused 9 of my business plans so I went basic and started by buying a van to sell drinks.The van was a scam and I'm at the edge of being a welfare-wigger.I'm 30, I hate my communist shithole of a country (France), I had more than 40 different jobs and I don't even know what to do anymore beside learning trading and workout.Just don't give up.
>>62468866With respect kill yourself. Your excuse for not applying to jobs is "it's 4am fuckface" but you keep waking up at fucking 6pm and going to sleep at 8am.You're not helping yourself at all stop pretending and stop bumping this fake engagement thread (blog).
just say your a nigger or poopjeet
I am 39 and haven’t had a job in over 10 years..
nigger just do what foids do get a comfy wfh hr, middle manager, project manager, customer liason, customer service or other phone operator job.
We shouldn't have to go to some corporation just to get an income.
>>62449961Not fucked at all. Just lie on your resume, they lie about the job description, it's all bullshit. I was a NEET for 10 years after high school and now I'm on track to retire at 50. You really only need 20 years of working to make it, if you're smart with your money.
>>62457986>>62457969neither answered because they made that shit up lol
>>62449961Literally just lie. Lie, lie, and lie some more. Accept that you can only live a lie because no one normal will accept and understand your situation. Stay disciplined and keep chipping away at things daily until you find an opportunity. There's a Chinese proverb that "Heaven never seals off all exits".
>>62449961>almost 40>NEET>not 7 figures yet, probably not even in 6 figure hellEnjoy being part of the permanent underclass
You have two options, just lie on your resume, or apply to a job where they take anyone. The latter is typically telemarketers and collections agencies and shit like that. If you lie on your resume you will need someone who can pose as references for you. Reach out to friends and family to fake references. You may have to get a dedicated phone number for them.
>>62470736>>62458848I'm also lying on my resume, this is the thread I made 62470742. How feasible is the lie I made?
>>62451269man, giving up "for a while" is like 6 months of not working, maybe a year. If you couldnt get a job, any job, in 20 years and hold it down, you are below nigger tier. 60 IQ crackhead noghs can manage to show up to their job at Wendy's often enough to not get fired
>>62449961>>62449979go volunteer. go uber/lyft/doordash get SOMETHING on your damn resume. what's your story?? why were you good without a job up until 40 and now you suddenly need one? how were you surviving? you need to have a somewhat hopeful/convincing story as to why you've had a change of heart to participate in society starting now
>>62468936actuary is a highly competitive field especially among new grads. you're going to need some type of experience and the first 2-3 exams passed (ideally in quick succession to show you can pass them). i would get a job at an insurance company doing literally anything, claims adjuster, call rep, whatever while you're passing the first exams and then apply to everything like crazy because you'll be non-traditional>Passing the first round of exams would be easy if it's so easy then go do them
>>62465843sounds like you're already financially set, why do you want an office job? no doubt you could do one though.>>62469809>>62470630the majority of employers try to verify employment somehow, especially if they suspect you of lying. what exactly should op put down as a lie?
>>62470991Do you think my lie will work? >>62470742
>>62470991>the majority of employershe just needs to find the one that doesn'tthat's why he needs to apply everywhere
>>62471054I've applied to hundreds of jobs through indeed and none have replied back, do I just forget about these big job agencies and just apply to company websites directly?
>>62470991A trick that worked for me is that I went to a temp agency, you don't need a resume for that, they hire anyone. You show up any day you want and maybe work that day, if something comes up they give you a brief description of the job and you can accept or decline. You work that day and get paid that day. All kinds of various random jobs, construction, picking up garbage around a mall, sorting the metal out of demolition debris, sweeping floors etc. You get all kinds of things to put on a resume and the variety makes it seem like you've been working for years. Work there for a few weeks or months and then lie about how long you've been doing those jobs to fill the gap. If the employer calls them about your employment history there, they will know who you are and vouch for you. Also the freelance nature of it makes it easier to ease into working after being NEET for so long. The downside is that you sometimes work with literal hobos or tweakers.
>>62470991>the majority of employers try to verify employment somehowNo, they don't. Even if they have an HR bimbo who is the bosses ex-wife or daughter she would be too lazy to call every applicants references and past jobs. You live in crab bucket and deserve to go back to faggot.
>>62470981>if it's so easy then go do themthe first exams are basically undergrad math and stats, the only exam that would have stuff im not immediately familiar with is the finance and business one. I recognize that the ones after that are much harder but they are not worth doing unless you already have a job. It's like 1k per exam it's a lot if it's all for nothing if they won't even look at me. Everybody will have these exams.>i would get a job at an insurance company doing literally anything, even that is easier said then done for a pseudo NEET
>>62449961are you a felon? can you pass a drug test? are you able to lift something 50 pounds?
>>62471680Can you kiss my ass?
>looking for your first job at 40You can look forward to a comfortable retirement at 130
How do you calculate the math? How much you would have to save per year to retire and so on.
>>62471846I try using Google ai and it tells me everything from saving 15k to 60k per year.
I always thought I was a fucking loser.... And then I run into a thread like this. Thank you for making me feel better about myself. Holy shit, is this the end boss of man child or what? 40? Fucking 40 and you argue with your mom about your internet connection? I'm sorry, I mean HER internet. You might not want to conform to the rules of society like some retarded hippie, but even the hippie found a way to make money. Seriously KYS. That's the best advice you can get here, you fucking baby. Want some sympathy and fake advice? Go cry on Reddit.
>>62449961Work in medical field, work grunt white collar job and be a yes man, do a niche trade or work 2 brain dead easy low paying jobs and basically collect money for existing. Many jobs like that in California, btw nothing is beneath you and you're fucking lazy, stop making threads here and go do something, but you're trolling anyways. You only get to your spot in life because your insane ego fooled you into not doing anything
>>62468936If you have a master's there should already be some bs job that hires you.I know 2 people in your shoes and they did exactly that, some bs gov job or companies who contract with military.The Master degree tells them you're not retarded and can learn the job but has no relevance to your schooling
>>62449961I bet you were one of those neet posters and now mommy and daddy are getting to old or are dead/dying and you suddenly have to get that wagie job you were making fun of
>>62473155>t. wagieKek. I am neet and also 40
>>62473155Seething wagie, i live toyally of NEETbux + crypto. Tick tock, wagefuck.
>>62473155Being a slave isn't a good thing. You're supposed to get out of a bad situation not build a personality around it and defend like a vegan feminist.
>>62473197You the VA guy?
>>62473272It’s the VA guy
Well, nevermind that shit. I just went to that store and saw who they hired instead of me. I don't know why I bothered.
It's the same shit as before, nobody even looks at my applications, nobody even talks to me.
>>62473888you decided to look for jobs at the worst time, you retarded nigger
What are you supposed to do? Nothing you're told to do works.
>>62449961just go sell cars. just go into sales. doesnt matter what
>>62451403im in the same boat as you OP. start using your local resources. you said you live in the woods? start selling firewood. grow a bunch of plants and start a nursery and start selling plants. designer plants for decoration like japanese maples and shit. its a good side gig. make a website and shit for it then in a year or two when you apply for a real job say you were an entreprenuer and sold your business and want the security net of a regular 9-5 job now with the shitty economy. you can also just backdate this shit and fabricate a website and reviews for something that never happened too btw if you want to just start applying now withou getting any extra money or learning how business works
>>62450440They don’t hire anyone retard
>>62452288TheyDon’tHireYou
even though I'm not a neet after being laid off I feel like I'm in a similar situation.I have a leg up with my work experience and education but I don't feel like it was worth it which meant that I wasted my youth doing something even worse than just fucking around
to all the people in this situation who want actual sane advice, here it:Do something easy. Something that won't demand a superior work ethic or a miserable grind with a manager looking at production numbers watching you.You're likely gonna hate your life every single morning you wake up and have to work AND you didn't do this when you were 20 years old and it was easy. You can get over the hump and become a "worker" but the mornings are already your enemy, don't stack the odds further against you.Work behind a register. Ideally at a gas station or some sleepy business. Maybe a long shot for you to get hired, but it's ideal. Some cleaning, some dealing with dickheads, some stocking. You won't be worked to the bone. A grocery/dollar store cashier is worse in most cases.Inbound call centre. Yes you will hate your job but the work comes at you and your office should be air conditioned. If you have superior (compared to your coworkers) manners and people skills you may even find yourself promoted rapidly. 60 year old grannies get jobs in call centers and end up trainers and managers, you can do it.Janitor. This one may be a stretch for a 40yo NEET but if you get the right gig, or hop into the right gig after getting a year experience, you may have found a cozy job. Many janitors are not running around like rats and barely have to deal with coworkers or the public. Maybe you end up hired by the local school board in half a year and make "decent" money.If you really want to try your hand at job where you have a taskmaster watching you try these:Warehouse worker.Meatpacker.Day laborer: Construction, landscaping, whatever.Factory as a production worker. GL getting hired unless the job is literal hell with high turnover.Outbound Call CentreGood luck. If you show up every day for a 1 year or 2 a manager or senior coworker will likely give you a glowing reference. You can even become a real "worker" and have easier mornings in time.
>>62474795None of those are hiring.
>>62474821Then keep whining here like a bitch. Someone else will take the advice and make a few dollars. If a call centre won't take you, you may as well start picking up cans and bottles.
>>62474824Just admit that you're wrong. There are no jobs.
>>62474795if you're a man you don't exist. don't go to die in a dead end gas station. karma is real.
>>62449961Anon, try asking an LLM (I recommend chat gpt but use whatever) on how to get a job. Explain your entire situation in as much detail as possible, why you haven't worked, depression, you're 40, never had a job, where you live (so it can recommend options) that you're carless.Explain EVERYTHING. Learning how to utilize LLMs will really help you anyway. I'm getting close to 40 myself and I use LLMs daily (I am a professional with a good job not a NEET but it doesn't matter you need to use LLMs now even if you're employed). Anons ITT are mostly going to dunk on you because you're a huge fucking loser but the best time to turn your life around is right the fuck now. The LLM won't make you feel bad like everyone here is doing too.Explain your interests to it too and maybe it can try and recommend a job you'll actually excel somewhat in, although beggars can't be choosy at this point.
>>62474884the creature making the OP does not want advice. It's doing an act for (you)sThis is actually good advice to someone so defeated they can't find jobs felons on the sex offender registry get after 15 years binned up.I'm sure a free AI could coach a defeated NEET into one of those jobs.OP isn't though, just a weird fuck
>>62474884I think this is the first time I've seen someone call Ai like chat gpt an "LLM". Well, I guess I've got nothing better to do. >>62474892Get a life you fucking loser. Dogshit like you doesn't deserve even the attention I've given you already.
>>62475051>Well, I guess I've got nothing better to do.Repeating myself, but the modern human needs to get comfortable using LLMs to be productive and successful. Avoid falling in to emotional or political traps involving them. View them as a useful tool. A human who refuses to use a calculator would be less productive than a human who does use a calculator.The same is true for LLMs. Don't blindly trust everything it tells you. Get a feel for how to prompt it to give you the results you want and double check things that you aren't sure about. A lot of people on /biz/ and in general seethe over LLMs, call you a pajeet if you mention them etc, just ignore them. I'm a professional making 6 figs a year in an white collar position, I use LLMs every single day outside of work and inside of work.As a skill-less NEET who doesn't know how to navigate the world it's the most invaluable tool at your disposal.
>>62449961very white european of you
>>62475932You put way too much faith in an algorithm poorly masquerading as ai. If it's a tool it should be a learning tool, not a crutch.
>>62476030Nowhere did I say it's a crutch, I very clearly said it's a tool. You're starting to sound like you're beyond helping desu. Good luck.
>>62453688The fact that you think there is any significant amount of “attacks” in this thread and not genuine criticism shows how far removed you are from the world. It’s going to be a tough couple years for you as you enter the workforce. You’ve received tons of honest advice.
>>62457849Anon can we talk on private? I think I can help you with this job for a fraction of 5% of what you get paid. I am desperately in need of money right now.
OP is a mentally ill retard who is in denial about everything, or maybe just a troll.ignore this thread.
i am in the exact same position as op, but i am 24 and have an undergrad in historyhow do i even get a job, and i dont wanna work in a fucking school
>>62449961I think the French Foreign legion will still take you. Otherwise, you could save some McWagie dollars and go to a trade school. Plumbers, machinists, and other tech trades are in demand.
>>62478296If you're this lost the anon who said "talk to chat GPT" had the correct advice for you. Scroll up and read it. An AI can easily guide you through the process of finding a starting job to build up. Any decent job wants to know you will show up every morning, gotta start low.You can scroll up to my post, also. That advice applies to you. At 24 you will have more hope than a 40 year old though. I would even recommend fast food at that age as you can actually fit in with the young folks who work at those jobs.>>62478683Trade school is a bust. If you are actually handy and been doing carpentry and repairing your own stuff since you were a teenager then you likely would have slid into this type of job already. Good luck getting some tradie boss to tolerate you if you don't know left from right. Seriously. Better off starting as a laborer and getting your hands dirty that way first, then moving into a trade.
What the hell kind of cleaner do you use on painted wood paneling?
>>62478296>>have an undergrad in history>>i dont wanna work in a fucking schoolhow did you even graduate if you are too lazy to even read the answers in this thread?
>>62450695try doing yardwork around the neighborhood. remember that old people still think you're a young, strapping lad. plenty of people would rather pay a neighbor to mow their lawn or powerwash their driveway, and from there you can network and get a regular list of clients.
>>62450832yeah, the reason is it's harder to exploit people who would rather not work. give them too much shit and they just quit. employers like people they can abuse because it makes them feel important.
>>62451705you need to start drinking raw milk and eat rare grassfed steak every day. also limit coffee and soft drinks, and take vitamins especially extra calcium. your cavities will stop in their tracks and your teeth will harden. if you have exposed pulp you can cover it with biodentine, but that's kind of a pain in the ass so hopefully you can avoid it.t. haven't needed a dentist in 15 years.
>>62479116the clanker says i can work in a museum, for content creation, PR, HR or as a writer, these all are too broadhonestly i would like to live abroad in europe if i am to work on the food sector. maybe a cafe in paris or somethingit also says i should look on linkedin. does that actually work? everyone i know says its a humiliation ritual>>62480965i graduated because of that, i only check 4chins and le internets like twice a day for 30 minutes max, chud
>>62480858Nevermind, you repaint that shit, apparently.
>>62481814because you have a degree you can get into cushy government jobs, eventually. If you're some sort of DEI you have a better chance for direct hire but reality it is you need experience. Fries in the bag fren, the clanker will give you the right advice if you tell if you need local advice for jobs that often hire with no experience or work history. You're young, put some faith in yourself and try something harder if you want, people hire for hard work constantly due to turnover.Museum? Unlikely, but if you have a real passion and somehow charm them in the hiring interview (and so how get invited to one...) I guess maybe eventually.
I have become so accustomed to laidback NEET like living that i don't know if i even have the attention span to focus for 8 hours of work every day
>>62483326Depending on your early life and early adulthood, maybe.Hopefully you did some difficult things when you were a kid/teenager and showed up to school on time. Showing up is the first step to working, and a history of showing up is what will help an employer believe you will be there 5 days a week (the first step to getting hired to a good job.)If you're still a young adult and not too far removed from your school days, you still have all those years of waking up and making it to class in your habits.Hopefully you did things like long hard hikes, picking fruit all day for cash, biking around for hours at a time trying to keep up with the older kids, reading long novels in binge sessions (this one's a push, but it is maybe some hope.) Doing any of this may be an indicator you have some push in you. Hopefully you do even if you haven't pushed yourself much.There are jobs where you barely need to focus. The work comes at you, and you do it. If you just shrug it off the supervisors will give you some pushes, and if you don't answer the calls, serve the customers, pick the weeds, you'll be let go.You might think landscaping is so bad, but you get driven around by the crew boss, maybe a couple funny lads to joke around with, and you just gotta get it done when it's time to unload and work. Back in the truck and off to the next job. It's broken up, it's not so bad. You shed weight, get a lot of sun and hopefully some chipper lads to laugh with.If going to work doesn't risk your benefits, you could give it a try. For young people (24 and under) fastfood can be great. You'll be around people like you all day, and being close to people is the number one way to develop relationships. It's not always busy, but they'll always have something for you to be doing, which may challenge your attention. Specific advice is higher up in the thread with more suggestions of workplaces
>>62449989>>62449979>>62449961go to university (probably free as low income)do TAing (they will pay you for this)graduate and they'll just look at most recent job history (TAing)nobody will care about before then
>>62483153museums here absolutely demand a masters in return for minimum wage (about $1200/month before tax)
>>62457593>How is that a bad thing? Thats a good thing.Only a good thing if you've been working at least 5-10yr and have somr capital. If you're broke, you have to hope others share the robotics and AI wealth
>>62451837Best advice ITTBeing a janitor is comfy and they will take anybody. Same as a garbageman, pay is probably better for that tooAt 40 with no job history, I would do it
>>62469039Kek you can always tell someone is an asshole that has problems getting along with people when they complain about everything.
>>62450482You could say you were a Christian missionary for two decades and apply at in-n-out. Solid gold.
>>62484243well he did say he was french>>62484364>christian>in-n-outyou mean chick-fil-a
