>>62481993hard to say since most people weren't making $50k back then just like most people aren't making $100k right now. in fact it's pretty much the same people still. Miners, loader operators, construction foremen, paralegals, government workers, general managers. The people making $100k right now are the same people that made $50k 26 years ago
>>62482142>The people making $100k right now are the same people that made $50k 26 years agoexcept for programmers and engineers, we sold their jobs to india
>>62481993I had a $53k annual salary in 2006 at 20 years old with only a high school education. It was considered a well-paying job especially for someone my age.
>>62482145>except for programmersI work 3 days a week and make $90K a year.I could make more, I just don't want to. I like having a four day weekend.My secret was deciding to learn boring dead technology.Legacy systems don't disappear just because they're no longer sexy.Clout chasers chase the sexy new trends,>They drop it, and leave it, and I pull up quick to retrieve it.quothe the Mix-a-lotBitches crying about AI stealing all the jobs don't realize,nobody is using AI on these old systems.AI can't even do the job, because there's no docs to train on.If you try it, it just hallucinates and blows smoke up your ass.PDF copies off of CDs are my docs.The decompiler is my friend.I'm currently the maintainer of the only remaining legacy toolchain for it too.
>>62482491I'm not a programmer but I threw away my training manual and make my job sound way more technical then it really is just to seem more important.
>>62481993Checks out. Graduated college in 2008 and $50k was the magic number for a post college salary. At the very least you aimed for that.
50k was a great salary back then
>>62482866yep a house cost about $70k in my town then. You could take 4 people to disneyland for a week for $4k, eating out at restaurants every day. A new car cost in the range of about $12k. I think the average pay in my town was about $18k then. I didn't break $50k until 2002, but I went well past it. I went from making $16k in 01 to making $75k in 02. I made my first million 2 years later in 2004. Adjusted for inflation my first million then would be worth 2 million now. It was a fair bit of money but I dumped it into a second house and business growth with a bit left over to play with.
America has never been perfect, and you can struggle here too, but there is a reason everyone wants to come here and that reason is the abundance. There are more opportunities to make money and more places to fill your needs easily compared to most other places. The infrastructure and safety is greater than most places in the world and you are blessed to be here
>>62481993Ah it was perfectI remember when I used to cross the border to the US because it was CHEAPER to fill the tank and buy groceries there than in Mexico
>>62482921Part of it is you have an enormous captive audience that's been trained from birth that spending money is both their civic duty and how they gain prestige and help others.If everyone's job is to spend money, it's pretty easy to sell them stuff and get rich. But eventually all the spenders will go broke and all the sellers will be rich and the whole system will collapse.
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>>62483041mmkay.
>>62483029The market adapts, that won't happen any time soon
>>62483076I certainly hope not because I continue to get rich selling.but after covid and 2008 I've seen that when it happens, it'll happen overnight and everything will change.
>>62482873>You could take 4 people to disneyland for a week for $4knormies are getting hustled hard by mickey mouse
>>62482491I hope for you that your work is closely tied to some obscure machinery (not just computers) that can't easily be replaced.Any business that's mostly software will eventually be outcompeted by AI (it will be half the price so it doesn't matter if its shit).
>>62483261Now it's closer to $20k for the same trip
>>62483029>Part of it is you have an enormous captive audience that's been trained from birth that spending money is both their civic duty and how they gain prestige and help others.I'm an euro indie gamedev with a couple of games on steam. It's funny how I make most of my money from americans paying for in-game purchases, even though they account for less than a third of my playerbase. It seems they're extremely quick at clicking "buy" when you dangle something shiny in front of them. Euros also have plenty of disposable income, but we're muct more cautious about spending it on bullshit.Americans, please don't change, I don't want to work a real job again.
Very easy by comparison. You didn't have to apply 2,000 times. Just 50 for that job. Anything less it was 20 aplications.
50? Back then I had shfifty five
>>62482921Western and northern europeans don’t want to move to USA anymore lol
>>62483566I'm in Eastern Europe and I would prefer somewhere with better public transport, maybe Switzerland.
>>62483572The public transport is top notch in western snd northern europe but really shitty in USA. Miami had almost no busses and huge rush hours even by night lol, a city that rich.
>>62483263Silicon Valley loves pure software because it's pure profit. The only cost is the programmers. Those are the jobs being wiped out by AI. Outside of SV, most "legacy" programmers work on support systems with a TON of baked in institutional knowledge. Even if AI could write the code, it doesn't know the business rules and would fuck everything up. And with AI, it doesn't learn in real time, from the users. It is trained with batches of training data. Training data that doesn't even exist, it's just 50 years worth of experiences locked up inside peoples' heads.
>>62482142>Miners, loader operators, construction foremen, paralegals, government workers, general managers.Huh? All of these jobs are like $60k/year jobs.
>>62485830>Huh? All of these jobs are like $60k/year jobs.where you live, yes.but where you live the average wage is still $30kthere have always been poor and rich parts of america. Nobody cares what wages are in the poor parts.
