I give up. It's over. With the news that zcash will eventually eliminate the transparent pool (see link below) it has utterly defeated the last argument that Monero ever had against it.The argument against optional privacy was a pretty good one. Privacy shouldn't be something you have to opt into. Now zcash has patched up even that argument.So what do you have? You have an extremely well funded coin with mandatory privacy, on all exchanges, with all the marketing and engineering budget to expand forever. Jews in support. Institutions coming. MSTR holding companies. Price skyrocketing. KOLs. Lobbyists. And the ONLY arguments against it are spurious and hard to prove. "Muh it has a backdoor" (can't be demonstrated) "Muh jews" (nobody cares) "Muh VCs" (nobody cares).In comparison Monero is entirely self funded. Barely enough budget to keep its ~10 devs employed. No marketing at all. The only "success" it has is being used for acquiring fucking drugs on a couple of shady marketplaces nobody has ever heard of.I loved what Monero stood for and I thought that investing in privacy would be a life changing financial decision. What actually happened was Jews stole your momentum, used it for themselves, adopted ALL of your tech and design decisions, ALL of your memes, and enriched and empowered themselves. Meanwhile you pretend your bazaar or drug market makes you superior. You, the loser goy, are destined to this life of serfdom and hardship. I thought I was amongst people who understood the reality of power. Apparently not.https://x.com/Zcash/status/2077150354505118014>$581 ZEC vs $332 XMR and climbing
>>62484065Not buying your IDF tranny Mossad nigger coin
>>62484203It doesn’t matter whether you and your 50 agorist friends buy anything. You’re completely market-irrelevant.
>>62484065>"Muh jews" (nobody cares)I do, and I'm not gonna use zcash. I'm just not, ok?
>>62484241See>>62484235
>>62484065>>62484241Jews are intellectually superior and attacks against them are signaling jealous feelings. >the own the wordOf course they do, the jews are what white people would be if scientific racism wasn't a pseudoscience, they ACTUALLY are the superior people, except they are ugly.With the jew you simply win.
>>62484263By the way, I made gazillions with Kaspa coin, which is a certified jewish coin. Zero fucks given, nigger. Better to be aligned with the jews and learned their ways with money than to stay a broke ass nigger.
>>62484263>ring>ring>ringAnon it’s for you….
>>62484307you have no argument. this is why Monero is losing.Antisemitism alone won't make you rich. You are destined to stay a niche irrelevant coin while zec takes ALL of the market share that was available to you. But keep requesting donations for your couple of devs, fracturing the community with 1000 different redundant apps and websites run by low agreeableness people who don't want to cooperate with one another, and use your coins for nothing but drugs. What a recipe for success
>>62484351>use your coins for nothing but drugsIt's funny because no one uses zcash for anything INCLUDING drugs.
>>62484065I will literally never use your zio coin with a backdoor. No one will no matter how hard the Winklevoss faggots push it to save their dying business.
>>62484531THIS. It amazes me how people can see the utter scorched earth war waged on Monero and then see the corporatist hard push of Zcash by literally every institution and think they all just became heckin based and want us to have private money! Lol
You can patch it up with as many layers of bullshit as you want but ztrash will ALWAYS be tainted because of the trusted setup, the dev tax and the optional privacy. You can't untaint non-private transactions.
>>62484531>>62484547They use it for something far more important: MAKING MONEY. The money (purchasing POWER) can literally be used to make actual changes in the world. Like hiring developers. Purchasing political favors. Getting financial institutions to adopt your coin. Literally anything that money can buy.If your goal is to be the coin with the highest “street cred” - again, only useful for drugs in that case - I guess Monero wins that? But if you actually value financial FREEDOM - in whatever way you want to to interpret that: financial power to do what you want in life, or just privacy because zec obviously has that now - then the market is already telling you what the winner is. Your arguments against this coin are so lame, petty, uninteresting and unimportant. Zec is going to $100,000 meanwhile maybe Monero will be like $600 by then? You fucking idiots thought you were having an ideological battle kek
>>62484605>optional privacyDo you actually know how to read? Serious question
>>62484615Monero wins actual freedom. Selling out for fake privacy from jews is not winning in any way and the Winklevosses literally needed bailed out. Lol Enjoy being a sellout and missing the whole point of privacy and losing in the longrun anyways. I don't even care about speculative value. Monero is for transacting.
>>62484628>I don't even care about speculative value. Monero is for transacting.And here we go with the typical Monerofag cope. “I was j-just pretending to be on an investment board. I-I don’t care if I EVER make money!!! I just want to buy drugs in peace!”Pathetic loser behavior. Zec will forever be ranked above Monero. It will always be #1. You can enjoy your life of serfdom with your “””””ideological purity””””. As they say, let the goys deal with the real world.
>>62484643how come ZEC is so underdeveloped with any desktop clients?
>>62484643Jeffery Epps? That you big dog??
>>62484687Crazy that it’s way higher than Monero despite that huh?>>62484690>no argument
>>62484065Israelis win yet again
>>62485010>Crazy that it’s way higher than Monero despite that huh?why do you think it is? zcash is more likely to pass through regulatory hurdles?
I love ZEC, G-d's chosen coin
>>62485399>why do you think it is?ZEC has:>lobbyists>exchanges>institutions>high budget >rich investors>marketing and KOLsThey actually care about delivering value to their holders and promoting the coin as far as it will goXMR has:> “”””””””street cred”””””””””Kek. Which one do you think would be higher? I guess if I need some LSD I’ll get some Monero
>>62485487so it's about delivering value to the holders and bring the price up vs being about a privacycoin? or both?it's fine if you care about the price that's fine. it's just, perhaps that they're both useful could be true. where have you seen ZEC be used? or what do you think it will be used for?
>>62485499Privacy is about freedom. Which includes delivering enough value to early holders to give them the freedom to live their lives. People who came into Monero early SHOULD be on a trajectory for this, but they aren’t. Because there isn’t enough money, strategy, or forward-thinking understanding of real power among the people of the coin. They are ideological only. Not pragmatists. >where have you seen ZEC be usedWhere is XMR used? A few sketchy websites? It’s obviously too early to be something institutions or normies to consider for either coin. But the groundwork ZEC is putting it shows it actually thinks about a future where it is used by all types of organizations.And any use of XMR will be antagonistic against all government, regulations etc. Its only way of achieving success comes from literal revolution kek
>>62485528>any use of XMR will be antagonistic against all government, regulations etc.I do agree with this, there would need to be DEXes only at some point if it becomes illegal. You're being a bit childish in the way you speak but your points are valid. I think zioncash despite being what it is, does have the legitimacy required to even be used openly and used as a currency in the first place. Monero can always be used and it is good for what it is genuinely but if it's banned then it all just falls apart. People will not just do atomic swaps to bitcoin everytime they want to do a transaction and use it as middleware, though I imagine it could be possible; the headaches in between will never allow mainstream usage. It's unfortunate.
>>62484065Monero is a utility, not an investment
>>62485832sodomize yourself with a rusty metal pipe you absolute braindead nigger faggot LOSER
>>62485487>Kek. Which one do you think would be higher? I guess if I need some LSD I’ll get some MoneroAnd how did you think it all started, i mean Bitcoin? I might be wrong, but i think talented crypto developers would chose Monero. By the way adoption seems to favor Monero. Indeed every time you have an private crypto payment option, it's always Monero. Not Zcash.
>>62485548Probably you missed the news. But Monero swaps have been integrated in the Thorchain.
>>62484615lmao number-go-up retard
>>62485888You're so upset because you know this is true
>>62484065Hmmmm, lets see. Monero is actually used as digital cash and has dependable demand from a growing global agorist sector.Nobody actually uses Zcash as cash the way XMR is actually used as cash because ZEC has a legendarily shitty reputation within privacy circles and can't get the time of day on the darknet. Probably due to the CEO (lol) having a very cozy relationship with three letter agencies.Objectively speaking, there is no meaningful demand for privacy coins outside of underground/unregulated commerce. TradFi banking secrecy already gives you effectively zero knowledge compliant privacy without a clunky blockchain so that effectively rules out any future demand from the white market.And since XMR is the darling of black and grey markets while Zcash is seen as radioactive, there is no plausible source of future demand for ZEC once Arthur Hays & Co slurp up the remaining exit liquidity and move on to their next pump and dump.In short, we can be very certain that there will be growing demand for XMR for the foreseeable future. Unlike ZEC, which is only hoarded and needs to be constantly be shilled to easily impressed rubes lest it go the way of all other memecoins.Not buying your bags, sorry. Enjoy getting dumped on as is tradition.
>>62484065>Infinite inflation bug that can't be tracked and will only manifest at the worst possible time (when ZEC is at is highest shielded throughputLiterally no price is worth the risk. XMR or bust.
>>62484615>They use it for something far more important: MAKING MONEY.The only people reliably making money with ZEC are the whales manipulating it and the exchanges taking fees. "Widely despised "privacy coin" starts pumping out of fucking nowhere while all the usual suspects suddenly come out of the woodwork and start shilling it on Twitter." A tale as old as time and it always ends the same way: with deluded baggies like you getting dumped on.Just the fact that you felt it necessary to make this thread is very telling, it underscores how ZEC would crash if it wasn't constantly being shilled by Nigerians and jeets since it is otherwise entirely irrelevant to actual privacy tool enjoyers, ZEC's target demographic.
Mullvad doesn't accept your shitcoin
>>62486602>growing global agorist sector.I can’t believe you typed this unironically.>compliant privacy without a clunky blockchain All assets are moving on chain retard. It helps the institution not the customer.>>62486039You’re a giant faggot who doesn’t belong on the internet. Go visit a bathhouse and get raped.>>62486719Basically everyone who has invested in the last 5 years has made a ton of money more than Monero
>>62486728Who literally gives the slightest shit also they will in the future
>>62486910>>62486908This feels like a false flag by a zcasher for bumps
>>62486950False flags are a utility Zcash is an investment (for making a LOT of money)
>>62486968>Zcash is an investmentBased
How do you make an anonymous tip on the internet? Paypal? Absolutely not anonymous. BTC? Neither. You don't want to be exposed to chain analysis.
