I heard Christian music coming from a wagie's office today and wondered: If wagies didn't believe they'll get a sooper speshul epic prize for all their misery after they die, would they still wage? Are we (the elite/NEET ruling class) just tricking them into voluntary slavery?
>>62504493They want to be tricked, there's a demand for that, it's a trillion dollar industry. Be grateful that this flavor of the millennium cult doesn't demand bi-yearly ritual NEET sacrifices.
>>62504493Your in that same job working with them
>>62504493If he's some evangelical he probably believes listening to that music/donating to his pastor's private jet fund/donating to Israel will increase his worldly wealth in this life
>>62507594Yeah but he listens to Christian music which means he is a wage-slave and I post on /biz/ which means I'm just a temporarily embarrassed hustlah'.
>>62504493On a side note to OPs bait post, why is contemporary christian music so terrible? It all has the same sort of saccharine, overly sentimental, downer vibe which sounds extremely forced and superficial. I am convinced it is some conspiracy to keep the minds of christians placid and vacuous, contributing to a mindset of low ambition and passive lifestyle. After all, how could anyone do anything of note listening to such depressing music all the time? I would think any deity would be irritated by it.
>>62509638Because modern Christianity is extremely forced and superficial, you answered your own question. Almost everyone in modern society is a Mammon worshipper, Christian’s especially so
>>62504493how can you be "elite ruling class" or "NEET ruling class" if you work in an office? this story reeks of low IQ OCPD namenigger discord tranny.
>>62509655Alright so i'm not well informed about this stuff, but it seems to me that most christian denominations today at best do not emphasize material wealth as important, and at worst actively proselytize against significant material accumulation. My impression is that they want the common follower to be happy in his little cuck shack or apartment hive cell without reaching for much more than that, perfectly in lockstep with the ethos of "you will own nothing and be happy," totally content to just passively watch the world depreciate and burn around them as long as they trust in Jesus and the master plan so they get good goy points in the afterlife. What about this is congruent with Mammon worship, or the pursuit of material wealth? Tbh i wish christians did seem more interested in material pursuits.
>>62504493You're very quick to mock 2,000 years of history and heritage. Have you ever thought that its kind of weird that we are all here, and that theres not just nothing at all? Atheists can surely point to evidence that matter and energy can spontaneously materialize out of nothing and point to creations that dont have a creator, right? You will be humbled sooner or later
>>62504493Hmm. Consider this though: Many of the most gifted, powerful and wealthy people on this entire planet are Christian and worship Christ as Lorddoes this maek u mad? Upset?
>>62504493religion does help worker drones deal with their cattle existence
>>62509803what if it didn't come out of nothing but science just can't observe where it came fromhave you considered that?Isn't that your own theory anyway since you can't physically prove god
>>62509638I think the music sounds that way, saccharine, high effort and monochromatic because the writers and singers are afraid of anything that verges on sensuality. An interesting point to suggest that Deity would be irritated by it, you may be on to something there, although I do listen to the stuff fairly regularly as part of my spiritual practice to avoid worldly stimuli I can only take so much before I put on some reggae or any other kind of devotional music that has more soul in it
>>62510489Physical proof of God is the only thing that exists, if you can't immediately perceive this you simply need to ask yourself why you can't see what others take as obvious. The answer is probably that, at the present moment, you don't want to see it.
>>62504493>If wagies didn't believe they'll get a sooper speshul epic prize for all their misery after they die, would they still wage?Yes. Some people (most) don't do well with freedom
Atheists and their LARPagan brethren are the niggers of religion
>>62509638Not mentioned in your post is how much more... ghetto, for lack of a better term, Christian music has become over the last 10 years. Everything sounds like that stupid "tonight we are young" song but more ghetto.
>>62504493It's a spiritual practice of accepting your lot in life after you've tried everything you can to get out of it. Instead of choosing to become spiteful and evil because of reality, you choose to garden and foster your soul. It's healthier not just spiritually but physically, to not be so high strung.
>>62510575Interesting take. Not sure i totally agree, depending on how you're defining sensuality. But assuming this is the reason, the question becomes WHY are they afraid of invoking any sensuality? Music itself is a sensual medium, so if the idea is to limit such experience, seems a poor way to do it.
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I think it's all genetic. like some people have a propensity to see God. it's as effortlessly logical and self evident as it is for an atheist to reject the idea of a creator.this explanation was sufficient to me up until I started to analyze this concept itself. why would some people be inclined to, without doing any research on their own at all, see and feel the creator while others aren't?I really think God exists at this point I just can't crack the code on how not to be a subject to his sense of humor.
>>62510699I'm not regularly exposed to christian music, i just know that when i'm at an event where it's playing, it's usually that cookie cutter ultra light rock variety. I know what you're getting at with the ghettoification though, as most pop music is integrating this style unfortunately. I can only imagine how awful this must be incorporated into christian music.
>>625044936 There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: 2 A man to whom God has given riches and wealth and honor, so that he lacks nothing for himself of all he desires; yet God does not give him power to eat of it, but a foreigner consumes it. This is vanity, and it is an evil affliction.3 If a man begets a hundred children and lives many years, so that the days of his years are many, but his soul is not satisfied with goodness, or indeed he has no burial, I say that a stillborn child is better than he— 4 for it comes in vanity and departs in darkness, and its name is covered with darkness. 5 Though it has not seen the sun or known anything, this has more rest than that man, 6 even if he lives a thousand years twice—but has not seen goodness. Do not all go to one place?
>>62510771The reason they are afraid of appealing to sensuality in any way is because they are afraid of promulgating anything that leads to a brother's downfall, is my interpretation. Misguided sexual shame of course is a big factor in all this due to numerous sexual scandals that took place among many of the earlier Christian contemporary bands many of whom were pretty good musicians, easily equal talents to what is found in the pop music scene Here's onehttps://youtu.be/L-7nfF2qqfU?is=EwQUj7Uv0cCb1r9u
>>62510804Think of it this way, God created us to live with Him forever, but not with the idea that we would continue to exist as ungrateful and insufferable assholes such as I have frequently presented myself throughout my life. It's all about learning gratitude and appreciation and this can involve experiences that result in ego-death, which is something we fight against just as vigorously as our own physical death
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christian music was probably the nail in the coffin for me as far as believing in god. sitting in the back of my born again evangelical aunt's minivan listening to that shit. I thought only retards would think this is good music. its like eating a shit sandwich while grinning and saying "mmmmm delicious!"
>>62504493You're an idiot with the mind of a stupid teenager.
>>62511664Catholic. There is no such thing as other Christians only rotting leaves that fell from the one tree.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uj8h4SCsnE
>>62511664I don’t know, Ive heard some really good Christian music that moves my soul. Maybe you just have a hardened heart. I will say that there’s really only one Christian artist that I really love, but his catalog is pretty large. He’s Catholic for what it’s worth and so am I.
>>62504493>If wagies didn't believe they'll get a sooper speshul epic prize for all their misery after they die, would they still wage?That's basically Karl Marx opinion on religion: "Religion is the opium of the people."
>>62509655And that is the subject of "on the jewish question", by Karl Marx.
>>62511712I think I would have benefitted from being raised Catholic, but all the ceremony surrounding the masses makes it seem like a club I can never fully be a part of. That said, you might be interested to hear that when I incorporated some Catholic practices into my routine, kneeling to pray and praying daily for the souls of departed family I was unexpectedly healed of a small genetic disfigurement.