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Back to Work Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners: so you feel like in the movies
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform you
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
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Back to red candles more like lmao
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According to WSJ, Iran is considering another pre-emptive attack instead of waiting for the next US strike

What a weird war. Both sides announcing attacks (potential or actual) in advance.
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why no link to prev thread
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7 hours to KOSPI open
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>>62552788
Iran needs oil to always be higher to apply diplomatic pressure, Trump needs it both ways to play the market
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I WENT TO CHURCH AND ALL THEY WANTED WAS MONEY
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>>62552826
For every dollar you give God will 10x that at least
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>>62552834
I was thinking of buying Chevron because an Anon here posted it with AI generated jungle fever images, but now you're making me reconsider.
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>>62552837
you don't think the red dude is hot?
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> futures
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>refined product futures
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>>62552844
what is the origin of this infamous dance?
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>pre futures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo
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>>62552847
https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/people/ricardo-milos
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>>62552847
Ricardo
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BYD will release its robot soon, the stock will 5x and Buffett will shit and piss his pants for selling Munger's shares.
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>>62552873
Does he even care anymore? He is like 90 and vowed to give all his money to charity.
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>>62552866
>>62552869
Oh lol I know Ricardo. I just see that dance used in so many videos and game mods

Wait, Ricardo started that dance?
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Why bake a new thread and then not post the link in the old thread?
That's not good etiquette.
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We complain too much about bakes.
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>>62552876
No, that guy is retarded. The dance was a creation of the game.
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>>62552886
did I just lose the game?
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>>62552876
Fortnight dance performed by polygonal Ricardo
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>>62552826
I do things for the church to make up for the fact that I can tithe only a little.
Some old guys in the church I go to give like 100 bucks or more. Theyre dedicated, or theyre retired and can give a lot I guess.
I can only give so much since I'm poor and investing for the future.
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>>62552896
ok thanks
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>>62552901
Those old men are also investing for their future: trying to avoid eternal damnation, one $100 bill at a time.
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>>62552905
Thats not how that works. You must be catholic.
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I just want you all to know that I am having a nice relaxing weekend at the beach and I hope you all are having a good weekend as well.
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TDOT bros

https://www.parity.io/blog/a-note-from-gavin-wood
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>>62552908
I know what you mean. I don't mean it literally. I just think that people generally believe that they're doing a morally "good" thing if they pay more.

I'm a sola fide (only faith in Christ will get you to heaven, not good deeds) kind of guy, but the vast majority of Christians (protestants included) vaguely believe doing morally good things get you to heaven, including donating a bit too much to the church.

Anyway I'm not Christian.
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>>62552909
based cortisol minimizer
This has been one of the better weekends
good times ahead
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>>62552909
damn, she fucking hates that dog. Got her crying
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hooker told me she liked how hard my cock was
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so whats going to happen? is the war over?
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>>62552919
Depending on which country you're from, a lot of churches (even non-neopentecostal/evangelical) are infected with prosperity gospel also
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>>62552919
> faith without works
no one is asking you to save the world but not actually doing good is tantamount to betrayal of your fellow man
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Maybe it is time to sell off my hungarian 20 year bonds, I bought them when the yield was 8-10% but I am a greedy fuck and want the new guy to get the yield down to 3% so I can get giant gains when selling
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>>62552926
I dont know who needs to hear this but a compliment from your hooker or masseuse is not a real compliment. Its just part of the service.
Either that or shes used to fucking 60-70 year old divorcees.
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>>62552929
I agree. People should do good deeds too. I'm not a faith-only purist. I just think faith comes first, good deeds second.
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>>62552826
Tithing (and donating to the poor) helps your soul in the battle against worldliness, and the church does good works with the money you donate. Also your faith should make you do good deeds but the good deeds arent going to get you into heaven, only your faith will.
t. Protestant
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>>62552934
anyway if you're a faithful believer, good deeds should, in theory, come naturally.
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>>62552933
Theyre just happy when youre not some fat ugly boomer.
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>>62552934
As an example, let's say a psychopath serial murderer, who didn't do a single good deed in his life, genuinely believes in Christ and salvation. Is that guy going to heaven?

I hope not.
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>>62552861
www.youtube.com/watch?v=20TD581BWqE
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>>62552943
but if I think about it, that hypothetical is stupid because a true believer wouldn't be a murderer to begin with. Whatever, I'm just bored typing whatever on 4chan on the weekend.
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>>62552943
The thief on the cross went to heaven, if the serial killer truly repents and lets jesus into his heart before he dies he will go to heaven
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>/smg/
sure is on topic here
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>>62552739
we're wagies on the moon
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>>62552953
yo what do you think about NIGR? FAG?
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>>62552953
Loosen up a little lad.
It's the weekend.
Time for a break from the stonks talk.
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i am neet and i take fat dump on you hahah
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>>62552951
I like the concept of purgatory. Let all true believers go to heaven, but those that did bad deeds should pay the price first.
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>>62552953
people are just trying to relax a little. half of /smg/ shorted the bottom and TACOs are being served every day this week.
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>>62552953
Futas are not open right now what else is there to talk to about
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As far as I can see, this whole Iran situation is going to be this endless tapdance around Hormuz until pipelines to bypass it get constructed (should be around start of 2027?!), after which no one will really care about the conflict anymore?

I don't know, seems like the one plausible conclusion that I can see unfolding.
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i just sucked someone off on vrchat, how can i make a business out of this?
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>>62552953
thanks for adding to the discussion. don't forget to tip your female broker.
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>>62552953

Deal with it nerd
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>>62552979
nuke iran and kill everyone in charge until they capitulate.
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>>62552985
Would that actually open the strait though?
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>>62552985

Nukes don’t exist retard. Japan was firebombed never nuked. You can look up WWII almanacs which confirm this.
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spam. lmao
>>62552788
>According to WSJ
think about it
>>62552979
that's the fun thing. the US basically has to escalate and implode the global economy and millions of people starve along with it or give up. i'm honestly glad somebody is pushing our shit in, maybe it could catalyze change and warmonger faggots are held accountable however unlikely
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>>62552975
I want this knife eared slut to sit on my face.
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>>62552988
such a weird thing to believe. to you guys think it's impossible or just that nobody has tried?
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Scared money don't make money. $1500 all in, USA 500. 20x leverage. Either I'll have $22000 in 5 years' time or I'll have nothing tomorrow.
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>>62552997
Leopold arent you supposed to be celebrating your marriage?
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>>62552987
Yes, if you don't mind other countries instantly starting to use their nukes as a precedent is set by the US. Ukraine would get nuked within a week and China would probably just take Taiwan while saying it's ready to shoot at New York.
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>>62552989
>give to st jude instead

90% of charities waste most of their money, give it to Israel, or use it to pay themselves. Charities are fraud.
St. Jude in particular recieves jillions of dollars from businesses for tax writeoff. They dont need nor want your piddly money unless its 1k or more.
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>>62552909
Best post in thread
Glad you had a nice weekend anon, I did too
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>>62553005
Well, I don't think that'd open the strait. Just a couple of hidden mountain bases able to send drones could keep the strait locked up for possibly months the least? and once you deploy the nukes Iran would have little to no incentive to not just try to inflict as much damage to everyone around.

Back to the drawing board.
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>>62553006
yeahhhh i know.
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>>62553006
100%
It all goes to their payroll/bonuses. Outside of that it goes to political causes and bullshit.
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hey wagie get in your car and bring me my weed
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>>62552875
does he have kids?
>virtue signalling about neglecting his offsping
why are so many boomers like this?
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>>62552996

So the US magically is the only one who holds the authority to use a Nukes? How long has Iran been the “2 more weeks” nuclear program? 30 years? North Korea stopped developing nukes too? Really makes you think.
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>>62552879
Don't worry, we've docked his wages
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>Japan dumped $96 billion over the past three months to $1.14 trillion
>China has steadily trimmed its portfolio, falling to $652.3 billion—its lowest level since September 2008
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are we pumping enough to ease the pain of missing out on childhood friend love tomorrow?
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>>62553029
That's a big number for you
Would be a shame if nothing ever happens
Like and subscribe
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I bought the top on USAR and UUUU
genuinely please help me to not kill myself
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>>62553024
Kek what? Russia has nukes and constantly threatens to use them and the only reason NK is a country is because they have nukes.
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>>62553030
Theres a reason why childhood friend is such a common romance option in VNs. Its because nearly all of them let their childhood friend go or they found love elsewhere.
The reason why its a common cliche is because it never happens irl.
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>>62553024
Look at that strawman. I just pissed on it and now its your strawman you built covered in piss.
Whatcha gonna do about it now, faggit?
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>>62553038
but it would be so awesome just imagine
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I'm full porting into RHM if Europe shoots at the Moroccans (literally won't happen but it's nice to dream).
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>>62553033
you can make more money and you only need one 10x. keep gambling bud but learn from those mistakes
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>>62553024
huh?
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>>62552968
thats how it's supposed to work
people only go to hell for a time
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>>62553043
Nigga who do you think authorized the moroccan invasion?? They pulled the trigger on spain for allying themselves with trump too much.
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>>62553045
i have no money left
10x0 = 0
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>>62553047
that is a heretical belief, if you go to hell you are there forever, both catholics and (mainline) protestants agree on this
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>>62553049
>i have no money left
Get a job then faggot.
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>>62553052
realy recently one of the popes said hell is for purifying your soul
purgatory is for objetively great people who did great things for others but were unbelievers and they only get out of purgatory if someone prays for them
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>>62553052
Thankfully, Christianity offers the most lenient, simple path out of damnation.
You can summarize it as don't be jewish.
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>>62553029
I am having trouble trusting the plan desus. I think yield computer is stopping Trumps important plan
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>>62552921
I see the "adopt a Ukrainian program" is going strong.
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>>62553048
>allying themselves with Trump
Huh? By blocking airbase access and getting threatened the most with tariffs? Israel and the US are to blame, who else? Morocco is a member of the Abraham Accords and Spain has been criticizing jews and siding with Palestine. Tons of neocons have been signaling that this is literally the plan since March this year.
https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/morocco-should-send-a-new-green-march-into-ceuta-and-melilla
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>>62553058
No he didnt, also purgatory isnt some sort of half hell, it is the way to heaven where you are purified. Also protestants do not believe in the purgatory
>>62553059
yeah basically, if you accept jesus into your heart and do you your best you are basically guaranteed to get in (this is basically the protestant view)
christianity isnt legalistic like judaism, it literally says in the bible "uuuh if you _just_ follow the rules you wont get into heaven" and is something that is criticized
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>>62553074
most likely what im remembering
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>>62553049
get together 5k and 10x it man, you can do that in 2-3 months. do your research while you build back up and make sure it hits, if it doesn't, repeat
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>>62553052
I don't find it reasonable or just that you're getting eternal punishment of the worst degree for some things you did in your short life on Earth.
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>>62552821
Kospi doesn't matter anymore, what matters is whether america will pump on amd/sndk/whatever.
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No APPL talk. Did no one slurp that dip?
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>>62553074
>christianity isnt legalistic like judaism, it literally says in the bible "uuuh if you _just_ follow the rules you wont get into heaven" and is something that is criticized
to add, basically if you encounter a situation you shouldnt think "is there anything in the bible that seems like a rule that applies to this", that is legalistic thinking you should just feel what you should do with the magic of jesus' love in your soul (protestant view)
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>>62553030
do let us know when you kys
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>>62553088
its gonna dip to 285
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>>62552834
>mfw i own evil companies and make evil money
Me >t >b >q >h >f >a >m
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>>62553097
absolutely devilish
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>>62553086
some evangelicals and seventh day adventists believes in annihilationism where your soul just gets zapped out of existence when you die if you have been naughty, this is because God is so merciful that he wouldnt torture you forever even if you have been a very naughty boy
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I've had enough of semis. I'm only gonna buy brown liquids from now on. Already got some KO and CVX. Anything else in other categories?
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>>62553101
lol
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What will markets do next week?
>picrel, last week's survey and results
>linkrel, next week's survey
>https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQo99wgd
>https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQo99wgd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA
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>>62553104
MSCI India ETF.
Sorry, I had to.
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>>62553104
check out SHIT and DIHR
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>>62553118
>DIHR
20% 5y return. Kinda shitty.
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>>62553090
you can go first.
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>>62553006
reminds me of some pro-life charity which had the ceo or leader pay herself 300k a year for some podcasts and twitter posting. most of them really are scams.
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>>62553029
i know it's risky out there babe, but i have to keep going until i get what i want. i have to get returns that make you say wow.
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should I buy yen
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>>62553138
I'm not a miserable humiliation cuck like you. I'd curb stomp you irl fucking loser
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>>62553148
i'm a millionaire who probably has an extra 30-40 iq points over you. kek You can make up whatever fantasies you like.
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>>62553145
I wrote a memo to myself to remind me to do just that. I hope nobody took a picture of it
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Did you guys get my post about the fund called NTSD?

I can explain again why it's so great, but I don't feel like it this time unless someone asks. I'll just briefly say what it is.

It's a 1.5x leveraged ETF, 35 bps fees, miniscule drag. It's basically 90% SPY and 60% EFA (basically a global SPY)

In case someone doesn't understand why that's great. The 60 EFA because it's not correlated with SPY, smooths out the volatility. The practical volatility it gets is just a little bit more volatile than QQQ. Higher return than QQQ as well, without the concentration risk of QQQ and you won't get wrecked by a tech correcton.. You could full port this ETF. It comes just enough diversified. No small caps or emerging market, but this could be a good thing depending on what you want. The reason it could be good is that small caps and emerging markets are volatile. So with this, you're getting a leveraged ETF of the biggest 1000 public companies in the world
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>>62553158
Hol up, a new leveraged ETF just dropped?
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>>62553145
ehhhh i imagine they'll let the macro guys build shorts back up before they clobber them again
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I think we'll be red this week.
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>>62553152
that's cool dude now bite the curb
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>>62553158
>EFA
looks like it's about to break higher
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>>62553162
only spacex
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>>62553023
His offspring are in fact boomers themselves andboomers act like shitcunts because their wwii parents shat on them for being losers, which they are.

>>62552909
>feels
This type of chick grows up to be a whore
Women are worthless
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kill all women
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>>62553058
You're confusing purgatory with limbo. Limbo is unofficial Catholic teaching but it's been discussed for millennia by catholic theologians that unbaptised infants and highly exceptional non Christians like the Greek pagan philosophers would go to
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>>62553162
I bought some 7400 butterflies expiring Friday as a lottery ticket
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love all women
especially your mom*
*notwithstanding that trauma dump anon who refuses to leave his parents home
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>>62553158
I have been trying to decide between this and a high beta index like SPHB. Could be a similar result with no leverage risk.
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>>62553145
You should buy Japanese Yen (JPY)
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>>62553104
SBUX
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>>62553224
>PE of 60
KWAB

Try MCD trading at 52wk lows. Before you laugh at this idea, go to your local mcgoyslop drive through and look how packed it is.
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>>62553229
this could be huge
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>>62553224
>SBUX
Can't believe it's still popular. What's the appeal? I can get better and cheaper coffee at almost every other store.
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>>62553223
should you though? it's rising because of central bank intervention, not for any fundamental reason, that can't and won't go on forever and then whatever fundamental forces that were taking it to 160 will just take over again. there might be a floor now because nobody wants to get blown out by the fed but expecting it to rise from here is a mistake i think
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>>62553097
Me after purchasing fractional ownership slices of energy companies
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>>62553229

Ive been off and on the MCD stock bus last months. Small gains here and there. Maybe I should just hold indeed.
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>>62553224
These guys wont be around in 5 years and I'm dead serious.
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>>62553229
Anon asked for brown liquid investments. We already got cola, oil and India ETF covered. If starbucks is bad for choice for coffee then please provide an alternative
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>>62553229
I decided not to invest in MCD months ago because my local MCD stores are grim as fuck.
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are stocks really just gambling?
my dad never engaged in this stock thing saying they are scams and making money from thin air is always a scam
im just trying to get educated myself
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>>62553235
millenial tailwinds
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>>62553246
it's gambling in the same way poker is "gambling" but the best poker players win more than they lose cuz there is a skill element. it's not slot machine or lotto shit, if that's what you mean by gambling
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>>62553247
so this
>>62553242
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>>62553229
>MCD
if you eat McDonalds you will be shitting brown liquid so that counts
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>>62553246
>are stocks gambling
Mostly not.
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>>62553235
huge industry. millions of milenials and zoomers are literally homeless because they can't stop buying Starbucks. or so I hear anyways.
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My penis is really thin like a pencil. What are some good stocks to buy considering the political mess we are in right now? Should I be waiting for midterms? Euro stocks are safe right?
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>>62553243
They sell coffee retard and it costs a third of starbucks
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>>62552873
My opinion: USA will make good robots, China will make them great and the sex industry will make them excellent!
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>>62553246
Anon, are you a Europoor or a 3rdie? As a Europoor myself, I can confirm that this is what our fathers teach us. Then they let their cash sit in banks or collect dust in safes. They might buy us a house or two and that's the end.
The least you can do is put it in an ETF, keep adding into it and collect 20 times the amount 30 years later.
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>>62553246
>are stocks really just gambling?
if you're messing around with the stock market not understanding the mechanics of how it all works, then for you it might as well be gambling. if you know what you're doing, then no, it is not gambling

your dad is probably a blue collar worker that doesn't understand stocks. "making money out of thin air" is retarded. stocks are ownership of a business. if the business grows, then the stock becomes worth more because the business is worth more
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>>62553242
this guy can't afford grande strawberry matcha frappacinos...
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>>62553246
>stocks
It's having an ownership/stake in a company. It's not just making stuff out of thin air. If you buy Apple stock, you're partial owner of Apple where the value of the stock is related to how well the company is doing, where the company may directly influence the value of the stock by issuing dividends (you get paid cash into your account if you hold the stock of the company) or stock buyback, where the company uses its profit to buy its own stock, decreasing the supply of stock available, increasing its value.

That's at least the basis of how it's not just randomly made up nonsense out of thin air. How much stock sells for is related to how well a company does as the company can (and often does) directly influence its stock.
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>>62553262
europoor
I have 0 friends that invest also which makes it weird and partly why I never got to even know what investing was
I think smg is 99% americans? I think only the US actually invests or has a habit for it
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>>62553270
if we're being honest though, most of the thesis is selling it to the next guy hoping that the price will be much higher than what you paid for it.
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How long until precum markets open in the US?
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>>62553275
That is literally every asset ever speculated on. Christ the IQ around here pummeled
>>
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>>62553211
nice play desu
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>>62553277
well, isnt that the entire stock market? nobody seriously buys stocks expecting dividends or cares about being a 0.0001% owner of apple. we buy in the hopes that when the time comes to make a large purchase, the line will have gone up nicely, meaning someone is willing to give you much more money in exchange for your stocks.
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>>62553288
why would it be presumed that everything goes up? it sounds like bias
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>>62553101
on the flip side, I don't think it's reasonable to give someone "eternal paradise" for something you did during your short time on Earth. Zap them too
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>>62553158
How about NTSX?
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>>62553272
Self-help through capitalism is part of our culture, and has been for a long time.
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Buy TLT. Generational accumulation going on.
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>>62553289
well we dont presume, we hope. we're all hoping to sell for more than we paid.

if you buy a stock, and a year later people are only willing to take them in exchange for half of what you paid, then youre the idiot. but if your lucky, maybe in another year, something will change in peoples psychology, causing them to pay more than what you paid, which is a relief.
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>>62553257
You mean your pen?
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>>62553275
That can apply to pretty much anything. Yes, it can be highly speculative, but it's still grounded in the underlying company. It's not some NFT that you just hope people will be willing to pay more for. If you buy a company that you do research on and are convinced will keep increasing its profits much higher than the inflation, then it's highly likely people will be willing to pay for it in the future much higher than what the inflation is, meaning you'd be gaining profit if you were to sell it, which is the basis of investing. You pay X amount for something and get something beyond what you paid for it at first in the future.
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>AZN and BMS held merger talks
lmao
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>>62553246
There are so many safe ETF's that the "gambling" aspect is removed, as far as I'm concerned those are barely any different to just putting money into a savings accounts except the gains are far better
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>>62553303
>It's not some NFT that you just hope people will be willing to pay more for.
imo i have never been able to see the difference between stocks and nfts, except for being a supermajority shareholder, or getting paid dividends, or instances where new shares are issued (thus devaluing existing ones).

>If you buy a company [...] then it's highly likely people will be willing to pay for it in the future much higher than what the inflation is

the "highly likely" is the key word. the price is determined by mass psychology, the same mechanism underlying fartcoin and others.

i have never found a steelman case for why stocks arent memecoins. as mentioned in the first paragraph, i think legally the 'owner' of a company is he with the supermajority of shares, and also the dividend aspect. other than that, what is there that isnt pure sell-it-to-the-next-guy-higher hope?
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I'm going up to the casino boys pick some numbers for roulette and I'll report back
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>>62553310
it's not a hope the company makes more profits its share prices increase. that's not hope, that's a trajectory
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>>62553311
4, trust me bro
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>>62553311
Dubs 11
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>>62553246
Depends on how fast you're trying to make money. You can put it in ultra safe shit and make some money over a few decades, or you can be risky and hit it big quick or lose it all.
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>>62553311
>triple double
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>>62553310
>i have never found a steelman case for why stocks arent memecoins
memecoins dont have cash flows for starters
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can't americlaps just buy japan and instant fix the yen issue?
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>>62553318
>the company makes more profits its share prices increase
theres no actual link between this other than what everyone thinks in their heads other people will do. we're all trying to model each others behaviour.

if the price of shares was actually fixed to the profits (meaning, brokerages fixed the price at reported profits), that would provide a logical argument for shares. ofcourse it would incetivize shareholders and company owners to game the profit figures, but thats a separate issue.
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>>62553324
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>>62553328
Stocks have been around for centuries lil bro I'm not too keen on reinventing the wheel with you
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I have $200 to throwaway. What should I put it in right now?
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>>62553326
you dont buy a share because the company associated with the ticker has cash flow. you buy a share in the hopes of selling it to the next guy, and you are making a prediction about other people's psychology, that they will justify their purchase decision based on cash flow.

much like a salesman making a prediction on women's buying tendencies, you chose to sell the wares in a certain colour ("this will make the customer more likely to buy the box")

but the box is empty. its just air.
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>>62553333
i know, and im also "investing" (aka making predictions about people's psychology in the future about their buying decisions.)

but i also understand this is what we have to do to live in the modern world. if i was born the ussr, i would read up on communist ideology, and know the arguments the nomenclatura likes to see. i would rehearse and repeat it for them, to move up the ranks and get a better living condition.

its the better living conditions we're after, and we see the sell-it-to-the-next-guy market as a means of acheiving that.
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>>62553310
>the price is determined by mass psychology
To a large degree, but there are still boundaries and limits. If you have a company that creates 10 billion or revenue quarterly it wouldn't make sense for their stock (market cap) to be worth 5 billion. That's where the math and evaluations such as P/E come into picture. You can't really use that for something like art or memecoins, whose value is based pretty much purely on how much are people willing to pay for it.
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why would americans buy japanese yen?
the japanese government sends you a wife if you do?
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>>62553341
They didn't even do that, they used Euros to do their magic jooish trick
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>>62553338
this is a retarded worldview that you have
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>>62553334
AMFN
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>>62553339
>If you have a company that creates 10 billion or revenue quarterly it wouldn't make sense for their stock (market cap) to be worth 5 billion

again, not to be annoying, but on the one hand you use words "boundaries", "limits", "math" - and then you say, "it wouldn't make sense".

but ofcourse it would. because there *are* no boundaries, or limits, or math. just psychology.

you could say, however, that it is statistically very unlikely, or rather: it is likely a very unstable configuration, for a stock to be valued at X when the quarterly revenue is 2X. maybe you could describe it as teetering on the edge of a knife, the moment someone buys, everyone else would self-justify their purchase - until the ratio moved higher to some arbitrary steady-state (ofcourse no such thing exists) point.

but that is once again, we are back in the world of mass psychology. we are not modelling the business, but peoples behaviour.

infact it just occured to me, that ofcourse, there is plenty of algorithmic trading going on - perhaps even we should be modelling the comptuers equally to the psychology.

>>62553347
why? i am trying to use my brain as hard as i can to justify what everyone takes for granted. infact its very frustrating for me to see something that billions say is grounded, but infact i have never found that grounding.

naturally i am suspicious to be swimming against 'common knowledge'. but i have never been able to see how stocks aren't memecoins.
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Why We Can Enjoy the Game and Bitch About Unfairness Later
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>>62553341
japan promised to slow down their dump of us bonds
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>>62553335
This applies to the entirety of economic activity, every purchase ever starts with the seller's presumption when they bought it that they will sell it for more than they paid for it. Even basic resource extraction and agriculture depends on the assumption that you'll sell something for more than it cost to pull it out of the ground.
The issue with the current market isn't that people are buying things with the intent of selling them for a higher price, is that the prices have no basis in reality. If a stock issues dividends, the price is based on the assumption of making your money back within a certain amount of time. If the company does buybacks, its based on the assumption that the company will buy back its shares for more than it sold them for. The issue with the the greater fool idea isn't "greater", its "fool".
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>>62553363
>japan promised
>promised
>promised
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I've got a good feeling about this week.
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>>62553360
Well, I guess to someone like you trading stocks really is just like gambling.
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>>62552975
what the fuck si this shit. Who wants those ears? They are neither reither fullelf nor normal human. They are just a bit longer than some abyssmal ears women have that they clearly try to hide with their long hair (some really have fuckin weird ears)

Also, NSFW
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>>62553341
If you want to invest, don't do forex to start. Just buy a broad market ETF like VOO when you begin, then after several years of investing you can start to speculate
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>>62553364
it is my understanding that stocks started out as a means of locking in dividends. i can 100% understand owning shares in exchange for receiving an annual/quarterly percentage that is tethered to say, the current price of the shares.

but it is my understanding that virtually nobody purchases shares for this purpose, atleast nobody ive ever seen on /smg/.

>>62553372
unlike the casino, where the house knows the percentages, nobody knows the weather. but someone with a lot of capital, with a supercomputer and sensors, can predict the weather a day forward with 20% more accuracy than others, and 2 days forward with 10% more accuracy than others.

if you control informational flows (e.g. brokerages, internet providers, aggregators) you can glean early signals into possibly where things are moving.

ofcourse being an insider is an obvious play, but again, nobody knows the future. insiders can receive early directional info only for a last minute shock change to completely reject their 'thesis', or to mis-understand the consequences of the early info. ultimately you can only know more signals in the present, and on average make better plays than others. even insiders will lose money.
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>>62553378
i started investing 3 months ago and voo is up 0.59%. am i going to make it?
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>>62553370
damn mumina bodymogging bobina hard
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>>62553381
>unlike the casino, where...
wrong
the market acts as it will and only people wielding large sums of money can derail it as evidenced this past thursday when that leopold nigger got his ass BTFO - its quite literally hedge funds manipulating everything up and down that makes it seem like a casino
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>>62553381
>but it is my understanding that virtually nobody purchases shares for this purpose, atleast nobody ive ever seen on /smg/
Yeah, dividend stocks and owning blue chip companies are such a very obscure thing.
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>>62553335
>you dont buy a share because the company associated with the ticker has cash flow

alot of people do, actually. thats called dividend investing
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>>62553386
I started investing 14 years ago, make 40k before taxes, and crossed six figures in my investment account this year, mainly because I bought a shitload of FCNTX in 2012.

Wagmi
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>>62552938
I wish good people like you went to heaven so we could hang out there but you chose to be a heretic and that saddens my soul.
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>>62553360
>but i have never been able to see how stocks aren't memecoins

if thats how you feel, then dont buy stocks, simple as. there's plenty of other stuff to invest in, like gold or real estate. there's no rule that says you have to own stocks
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>>62553096
This nigger knows.
Wait and slurp that 265-285 range.
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>>62553393
congrats and thank you. :)
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>>62553296
But why?
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>>62553397
No ones going to fall for your catholic impression, Moishe
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>>62553381
>but it is my understanding that virtually nobody purchases shares for this purpose, atleast nobody ive ever seen on /smg/.
Plenty of us do it. Even some of our degen gamblers have two accounts one for boring dividend investing and one for gambling.
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>>62553381
>divvies
that’s because divvies don’t really matter until your growth portfolio is in the 7 digits. your divvies are supposed to complement your retirement check
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kospi will open red. it will be interesting to see what momentum does. I think it will flip green immediately but the negative momentum could carry it down
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>>62553387
Bobina secretly loves BGC (big green candles)
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>>62553386
>buying up right after the strongest short-term rally in stock market history
ngmi
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>>62553386
Yes. We all are.
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>>62553419
KOSPI promised a continuation on Friday and we got a crab day. Not trusting those dumb gooks again.
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>>62553370
Please give bobina some abs definition~
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>>62553432
kospi closes Thursday until Sunday evening
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>>62553432
That SA guy got liquidated on Thursday, no real price moves those days
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A lot of gambling retards on leverage still. Bottom is still pretty far away. Fomoing retards only know how to hold leveraged long tech ponzi shit so pain will continue. Some faggot retard last thread said 7% realized in a week is too slow and only for boomers meanwhile his portfolio is probably all -40% meme stocks
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>>62553417
"No effort is wasted"

DIvidends are great even if you don't have 7 digits, especially if you do DRIP.
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>>62553419
The deleveraging should be over and oil should be down bigly. They were oversold as fuck, so my guess that they'll be up, maybe not by much, but still at least a little up.



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