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>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
https://iran.liveuamap.com/

>Previous Thread:
>>62561647
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>>62562307
AHHHH SpaceX is down and Im losing money make it stop!
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> futures
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Guy who said get oracle
This better work out for me or I'm holding you karmically responsible
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I don't even own SNDK but my entire life depends on their earnings tomorrow
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Never sell. Its that simple.
You either die a bagholder or live long enough to see yourself become the bogler.
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>SOXL -4% aftermarket
awww fuck

>pic unrelated
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SPCX down to $80 EOW and millions play sudokou
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>Elon says SPACEX will have $1 Trillion in revenue by 2030 and a non-zero chance in 2029
Why aren't you buying?
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Nebius sisters, what’s our play going forward?
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>>62562307
991m will bring it down to mid double digit artur hayes territory
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My Lil' Smiggin SPY shorts I opened moments before close aren't looking too shabby now :3
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>>62562326
>insert listofelonlies.jpg
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why is nvda pumpin'?
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Here's your $2 trillion AI bro.
>Researchers Tried Letting AI Do Science. It Failed
>The researchers gave AI agents the central research questions from two unpublished NeurIPS 2026 papers, preventing the systems from retrieving answers from training data or the web. Each agent received six days, thousands of dollars in API credits, GPU resources, internet access, and access to a virtual machine to produce a conference-quality paper. The resulting papers were then reviewed by the original authors of the unpublished research. Both were rejected.
https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/researchers-tried-letting-ai-science-191346481.html
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>>62562332
Cuz Elon said they would only use nvidia going forward
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>>62562324
>people talking about losing $40k and crying
pathetic. This is why I tell people just buy ETFs and never look at it.
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>>62562332
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when's our spcx buy in point?

$40?
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You are waiting for SNDK earning. I'm waiting for DK earnings. We are not the same.
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>Those swings on ALAB
After hours pre market trading should be illegal
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>>62562338
We'll see on the 6th
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capex should be bullish. investing in yourself is inherently bullish. you don't do this when you're not printing.
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>>62562333

WTF Bro. Ai just solved some 4 dimensional sphere packing mathematical question that’s been puzzling mathematicians for centuries bro. Dont ask me to explain how that makes free cash flow tho.
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>>62562338
135(IPO)x0.043(circulating)=?
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The Faggler will answer for his crimes one day.
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>>62562348
Market doesnt like it because it means risk, is the initial news means sell until people decide if its worth it.
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>>62562333
>failed to produce original work worthy of acceptance
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>>62562338
im never touching any of elons shit because fuck him
yes i am woke, yes i am an activist. deal with it
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baby, if you're reading, i've lost and regained more than your net worth over the last few days. it got my heart rate up but i lived through it, and i have more than i did when it all started, same equity and a big wad of cash. i'm only bragging a little bit, what i mean is that risk won't kill you and it's the only way to make big returns. i wish so much you had listened to me and taken on a little more. it's ok though because i just want to take care of you with it, but it's about changing your mind and proving that i'm a good teammate for you, i've got some things you lack babygirl, and you the same for me, we should be a pair. the weather is lovely on the riviera and i think you would really like it here.
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>>62562338
Low 80s
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>>62562344

Judging by the outstanding work of fiction their prospectus was. Expect some Lord of the rings level magic accounting tricks on first glance.
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>you will never impregnate a next door japanese girl
why even live
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>>62562355
There's no risk tho. capex means they already ran the numbers and said spending = more gains or they wouldn't spend
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>>62562324
Kwab I lost 60k in a single fucking day and didn't blog post about it
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Why do they hate money?
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>>62562348
>creates the metaverse
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>>62562367
Your hapa child will be mocked relentlessly and turn out ugly. >>62562370
Plebbit is so buck broken by orange nigger they can't separate what he says from how it effects the market
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>>62562372
this is on established product with contracts and deals in place. they need more. not some unprecedented idea
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AMD revenue grew 50% and its almighty data center doubled so why is it goind down like shitcoin?
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>>62562338
DCAing starting at 90 ngl
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>>62562368
Im just telling you why the market reacts badly. The default position is that capex = "money going into a hole"
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>>62562367
Give it time, soon yen will be so cheap we'll have Japanese mail order brides
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When do you sell?

I was up $1k today on my $2k I invested over the last year. Just said fuck it and sold to lock in my profits. I'm going to wait til Trump does something retarded, then reinvest. Going to throw the rest into a mixture of ETFs and bonds.

Is there any strategy besides I guess selling half vs selling all like I did?
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>>62562370

You’ve been screaming for the last two weeks about the gushing river of red from your raped and gaped ass (don’t deny it). Now you’re double hard again? Cumon lad.
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>>62562373
I never said anything about marriage anon..
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Man when AMD started dumping near the end I had a bad feel, will have to suck shit and dip slurp tomorrow
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>>62562380
I already know why the market reacts the way it does. Look at GOOG on earnings and now. The market is always wrong every time without fail
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>>62562385
what
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>>62562386
>being a deadbeat father
Good job creating another Elliot Rodger
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Lisa Su you stupid bitch
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>>62562391
>not being a father at all
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>>62562383

In a volatile market. Sell over 10%. Don’t buy until it drops at least 10%.

In a volatile market. The volatility will end. Who knows when. Not now anyway.
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>>62562392
>amd not tanking the market

Let's hope kospi hits 5k so my spy puts print
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>>62562396
>Sell over 10 percent

Absolute bitch shit I made 20 grand today because I didn't sell on fucking spy calls
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>>62562387
Same. I'll just hold these bags, like all the others. Warren that Buffet you know what I'm saying? This is how long-term investors are born.
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>>62562373
marrying Asian girl is literally playing gacha IRL.
50% chance of girl and only top 10% of hapa girl outperforms white girls so it's 5% chance of getting something good from WMAF
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>SOXS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbMPnfEk16E
claiming my iranian waifu before she gets blown up

Also if SOXL tanks I'm fucked
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>>62562333
I mean, even as a search engine it fucking sucks. I was asking Gemini to give me the self-hosting photos solutions like Immich and the like that allow me to reorder a photo however I want inside an album, like Google Photos does. He got me one answer right, made mistake on two others and had to correct this dumb AI, and when I asked which commercial cloud solutions I could use instead of self-hosting ones, it dismissed Google Photos saying it wouldn't fit my criteria. Even though it's one of the few that does. Even though fucking Gemini should know everything there is to know about fucking Google Photos.
Holy fucking dumb as a brick.
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>>62562403
Keanu Reeves is hapa ain't he? Maybe the odds aren't that grim
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>>62562405
>Up 4.5% after dropping 20%
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>>62562401

Not talking about leverage or structured things. That’s different.
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>>62562383

>Sell
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How does AMD triple their capex number when they are fabless?
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>>62562410
Racemixing with Asians is grim
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Somedays I feel like the only person on the Titanic willing to count the number of lifeboats.

>AI related stocks, which seems to be half over the market these days, are all priced to perfection, meaning it just takes one imperfect day or even a rumor to send them jiggling like an altcoin.
>Bonds are another trap, not related to AI this time, but related to the fact that the boomers of the world’s governments kept running +100% debt to GDP ratios and couldn’t balance their budgets to save their lives, or their bond markets for that matter. In fact the bond markets should have punished them sooner but a lot of governments have quietly passed defacto quotas on banks to hold more Bonds, just like fucking subprime.
>Cash being inflated away and under reported, often used to sweeten the deal with the banks grumpy that they’re stuck with those stinky bonds. a game of robbing peter to pay paul.
>Housing crashing worldwide because of boomers dying and millennials and younger being too small and too cash poor from only being paid McWages or getting outsourced their entire adult lives.
>International Equities are still heavily heavily weighted towards AI shit
>Emerging Markets Equities are also heavily weighted towards AI shit, with the indexes all going to SK Hynix and TSMC due to weightings, and because they’re from the “”emerging”” countries of Korea and Taiwan, apparently.
>Energy and commodities are still too tied to AI shit. And oil feels like an bizarro upside down commodity now.
>Metals are okay but blew their load too early with the last pump cycle and now quite a few are stuck in either bearish or crabbish momentum.
>You try and short any of this you get your face ripped off.

There’s literally no lifeboats.
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>>62562410
He's like 25% or something like that, bit weird that ricecel's love him but do their best to ignore the fact that his dad was a WMAF product
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AMD EPS from today x4 means they now have a PE of 85. That means it has an upside of at least 50-100%
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>>62562419
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smiggers I think I fucked up. I just fucked my jewish neighbor. I'm worried the husband will find out and ruin my port.
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why are earnings call question answers just ceo's just hyping themselves?
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At least there's a bit of NVDA pumpan
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>>62562312
>grabbed right in the pussy.png

BTW, you guys realize analysts can just bump their forecasts above SanDisk's numbers right after, right? It's obviously gonna dump, we just can't predict when it'll bottom. Hope you comrades took profits. I didn't buy the dip. There was nothing saying it would rebound once people came back from summer, as if we're just a bunch of kids.
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>>62562416
they only spend $500mil more. that's virtually nothing to them and it means they will make more money going forward
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>>62562419
i still dont know what the hell to do with oil. When I was younger my dad put 500 in robinhood and most of it now is around 2800 dollars, most of it on oil and energy. I feel like I should sell it because the stock is so insanely high but There's nothing better I can think of. I was going to move it into gold, and when one of my classmates said she sold all her gold for oil during the strait crisis I thought she was a dumbass. But I waited, and to my suprise gold crashes and Oil has done nothing but go up.
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>>62562419
>There’s literally no lifeboats.
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>>62562430
Is her husband baggot? He might be into that
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>>62562419
I'm not reading all this shit you stupid bobo nigger I've had to listen to this shit for a whole decade now youve been wrong every time now fuck off. You're not a genius you're another midwit.
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>>62562428
It’s less about le crash(tm) at this point and more, how do you even leave?
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>>62562419
You are correct.
But current market participants are mostly wallstreetbets people from 2021. The 2022 crash didn't wipe them out and they are still in control of this market. That's why it moves the way it is now. Those people needs to die and exit market. It happened every single cycle. There are no 2008 or 2000 investors in today's market. they all died or grew up and are 100% spy.

just wait until koreans start posting their destroyed laptops again like they did after 2022 crypto crash. that's bottom indicator.
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>>62562443
I don't think so. I live in South Florida and she is jewish not some gook.
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At least I remain correct about space sex
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>>62562411
Not if you bought the dip
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Which one of you fuckers started this fire?
#DiaperGang
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>>62562444
literally this
just draw margin and press the buy button goddamit
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>>62562445
why do you want to leave?
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>>62562454
We didn’t start the fire
It was always burning while the world was turning
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>>62562440
follo u r gut
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>>62562454
>China
>Quality
What? Quality bootlegs? Hey! Where did all tie diaper investors go? HAHAHAHAHA!!
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>>62562454
another one? or is this the first diaper arson?
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>>62562449
Watch out, man. Female jews are genestealers, they can make new legitimate jews with any ethnicity.
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>>62562454
Damn diaper post really pissed off someone
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>>62562454
>Chinese made diapers spontaneously combust
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I went to sweet green today and noticed a homeless black man defecating right next to the door. I could smell his waste even from far away. It was horrible and putrid.
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Is this a joke?
I can't believe people fell for spacex
You know how autistic Elon is and how he always drags down companies by failing to communicate during earnings call
There were some people buying $330 calls today. and they were institutions apparently. It's almost like they don't care because it's not their money.
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>>62562475
How do we profit from this information?
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>>62562440
This anon is wrong
>>62562461

If you're clicking to sell something, hold, clicking to buy, hold off. Always do the opposite of what makes sense
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>>62562477
>someone paid 130 for it after hours
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>>62562456
>Buy id
This. Literally just never sell ever. Buying is more fun
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Delek
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>>62562479
Do you happen to know a crack wholesaler?
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kospi please be green tomorrow
sndk please beat earnings tomorrow
thursday please be green in general
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>>62562479
Buy AXON
when cops come to arrest homeless person and he runs away and cops chase him and take him down, his Axon body camera records the data and keep it proprietary for AI law enforcement training. I told my mom to buy Axon.
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>>62562482
I would have so much more money if I did not hesitate on trades that I knew in my gut to be right.
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>>62562458
Imagine your “they don’t know” meme, but the room has no exits! O_O

But seriously, the best bulls are the ones early to greener fields.
In my opinion, this AI stuff is becoming old hat.
And pretty soon that feeling will creep onto other people.
I want to leave early and find something new and great but honestly everything I look at seems to be contaminated by AI in some way or not good enough to get bullish for.
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>>62562490
Bullish for cop slop
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>>62562419
You're not the only one anon. The way I deal with it is by stock picking and by looking outside the US. There's plenty of cash generating businesses that AI-obsessed faggots have no interest in, and that's what I buy. China is extremely cheap right now, and so is Brazil. European indexes are also decent.
>>62562428
>>62562442
>>62562444
Literal cattle.
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Why doesn't everyone just invest in high dividend stocks?
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GOD DAMN IT SPY JUST DUMMPPPP
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>>62562485
>buy id
lol haven't even noticed

Anon with green BUy ID is massively bullish and there are still bears and fudders coming out of the woodwork. Don't fight fate anons.
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>>62562504
Because you need a stupid amount of capital to actually make a decent amount from divvies
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>>62562338
I wouldn't touch that shit until at least spring next year.
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>>62562490
speaking of
how's AI dashcams anon
speaking of
how's Chewy anon
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>>62562504
because when companies put dividends too high, it's either a desperation play, or a gimmick. slow, steady increases over long periods of time are a good sign though.
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>>62562504
I love getting a quarterly $11.86
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I bought AMD at 470.80. I dunno I just think it sold off kinda hard.
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>amd dumps -10% on record profits and beat
clown market
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>>62562504
Divies are for people that actually have money, not people trying to make money
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>>62562493
or maybe you're only remembering the ones that were right, and not all the gut feelings that were wrong.
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>>62562535
it's also for anyone in a crab market
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>>62562494
I have been around for some time and I will just call you for what you are: fudder. I seen this kind of talk so many times I can recognize the pattern.

Just fucking buy on margin goddamit, the dip was last week and there's another leg up ahead of us. But you won't do it will you. You will just keep writing walls of fud.
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>>62562500
>Chinese and Brazilian stocks have value
Yeah cause they're at risk of being nationalized at any moment and that's all priced in and has been for years? Good job retard you're trading the ai hot potato for the chink bomb
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>>62562386
casting really found the most fish-eyed ones they could huh
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>>62562537
Why are you people so retarded that you can't understand total return
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>>62562536
I'm quite self aware, and I don't make many trades. The ones I get to the button on already have a lot of research put into them.
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>>62562494
>No lifeboats
Buy long dated spy puts or just hold cash. A bubble pop is deflationary as banks deleverage. This is not rocket science.
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>>62562419
yes bro totally for real this time it's gonna crash
i believe you bro we're like, mega smart, how could nobody have thought the market was gonna crash this time
this time for real is gonna happen bro, I know the past 69275 times it didn't actually happen but this time we're totally on the money bro, for sure the crash is guaranteed man
line only goes up you retarded fucking nigger
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>>62562541
Shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about. You're just parroting things you heard some other retard say online.
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Chinks... please dump...
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>>62562549
>No argument
You don't own direct shares of Chinese companies buddy.
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>Market turbo green
>Free easy money just buy fucking anything
>SMG angry and seething/lost money

amazing really
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>>62562544
what you holding right now?
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>>62562538
Desu all this AI shit will be just as, if not already is, nationalized.
Anons here will unironically shill Intel and Palantir then get wheezy about Chyna.
Like get a mirror nigga, lmao.
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>>62562543
In a crab market divvies btfo growth stocks in all valuations
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>>62562558
it's just the squeaky wheels man the silent majority made money cuz were all in semis
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>>62562538
he's just a dumb monkey nigger who's probably been here no longer than 6 months
these types have been around for yeears coming and going cause they eventually get wiped out enough times to rope, just a matter of time for this one to follow in the footsetps
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Is AAOI a buy or is Reddit lying to me
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>>62562558
I was up nearly 5% today, no complaints here
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>>62562545
At that point the FED fucks you in the ass with cuts.
So far you’ve only given me advice that would lose me money.
Why so hateful anon?
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>>62562558
I'm just upset about going with the advanced money destroyer over Palantir with spare cash I had
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>>62562504
I do
>100% W2 income gets invested
>borrow against portfolio on margin for expenses
>divvies pay margin first then get reinvested
growth is good and therefore more money earlier is better
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>>62562566
You are describing one stock returning more than another. One is crabbinh and one is not.
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I am relaxed. Everyone should relax. I like to do breathing exercises, go on walks, or get up and stretch if I only have a few minutes. Let's all relax my smegroes.
>heems won't get you greems
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>>62562560
If you're looking for ticker inspiration, I truly believe in following your heart. Knowing that a company is going to be around in 20, 30, or 50 years is a good bet that it'll be a great choice. Some holdings I will divulge are KO and MO, because I think they are a good hedge to keep 2-6% in, as drinks and tobacco have very little chance of leaving our economy. Find the companies that resonate with you and what you understand.
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>>62562589

PEP is straight up better than KO. same shit better div and lower p/e
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>>62562589
>>62562595
>quibbling about boomer stocks
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What the FUCK is going on?? I AM FUCKING SCARED WHY ARE WE PUMPING SO MUCH
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throwback
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just had my first french cuisine, it was called "falafel," frenchmen are much browner than i imagined, and the language wasn't very romantic sounding, but the food was delicious.
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>>62562587
Yes dividends are not crabbing when your growth stocks are. Dividends are growth stocks in a crab market. Hence dividends are not just for the retired. They are also a hedge.
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>>62562597

PEP will run up atleast 10% before its September div and I'll dump it for like 8% realized again. Last time I held it for like a week total.

Its easy money without tard maxing or taking on any risk
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>>62562533
As someone who bought in at $160, it always does that. The only exception was last quarter, where it giga pumped to the numbers we see today.
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>>62562595
If that's what speaks to you, get it brother. There's money for all of us to make.

>>62562597
I made over 40% on Sivers, 25% on NOW, and 225% on SPAIF. It's okay to like more than one kind of stock.
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>>62562601
were you in the neighborhood called "le marais" by any chance? boy
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what would happen if I bought TQQQ right now at this very instant?
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>>62562621
it would go up over time
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>>62562620
the town is called niceville, but it doesn't smell very nice at all...
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Does anyone else feel today was a big trap....
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My precious spy puts.
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>>62562598
No exit or alternatives for the money.
It simply has nowhere else to go.

Lotta angry anons mocking me for being some kind of Dunning Kruger.
But I have no delusions about my own intelligence.
I know there’s plenty of traders out there far smarter than me, I’ve certainly got no delusions about that.
I have nothing to sell or say except what i can see in front of me that’s also in front of you.
And since the market isn’t going anywhere else, I’d say all those smarter people came to the same conclusion as me, no exits or alternatives.
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>>62562630
He looks sad about it :(
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>>62562595
Some people drink PEP, some people drink KO, the wacky morning DJ says democracy's a JO
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>>62562633
suprised stock price as not exploded considering the israelies now have total access to all defense assets and money and they can direct money into ONDS to mfg all the drones Israel wants.
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>>62562621
in one week you would blame yourself for not going FNGU or SOXL
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>>62562640
These images are very offputting
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>He didn't invest in the Lil' Smiggers IPO
NGMI
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>>62562630
I'm holding til earnings
I'll dip out if they announce another genocide
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Just woke up

LGTSS

>Space Dicks
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kek oil baggies

>>62562630
>let's have the guys who did the pager attacks install a bunch of software in energy sectors around the world

This is probably just 1 of 100 dead man switches the kikes have prepared for when countries expel them
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stop postingn ai slop "memes"
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>>62562386
I didn't know this movie existed until a week ago. Now this is the third time I've seen it mentioned. GANGSTALKERS FUCK OFF.
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They won.
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>>62562674
Imagine hating the intersection of whimsical fun and dazzling technology
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legit how can there be any shares left to sell of spaceX, it just came out and all them niggas locked up
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>>62562675
I downloaded it when I was in college twenty years ago and haven't thought of it since. It's suddenly being posted on /tv/ nearly daily, and I have no idea why. I'm assuming it ended up on a streaming service somewhere. Whichever service it is though, should probably go long.
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>Nevertheless, Musk said that SpaceX would likely hit $1tn in revenue by 2030, a year earlier than he thought just six weeks ago.
One trilly? In four years?
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>>62562511
Eh, my yearly expenses, including rent and my holidays are ~22-24K, depending on whether I go to Japan or not and if I do 1 or 2 weeks of skiing.
My current oil divies already cover half of it. And I didn't invest much. I can easily triple that.
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>>62562685
how is gonna do it?
AI satellites?
AI spaceships?
AI moon bases?
AI asteroid mining?
AI space robots space mining asteroids in space?
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>>62562694
AI that makes other AI
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>>62562694
He's going to use his space lasers to restore South Africa and Rhodesia, they will be called Muskville and Elonopolis respectively.
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Is silver and gold a good investment? I may be pulling out my mutual fund cash to close the account and am thinking silver bullion would be a good position for later in the year
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Retail traders aren’t happy about the new ATH. Which means the short squeeze will continue. Happy days ahead. :)
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>Researchers Tried Letting AI Do Science. It Failed
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>>62562694
As shown every week since late Feb, he can easily prompt it on Truthtter, and it will become reality.
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>>62562456
>Buy button?
More like belly button
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>>62562694
Uh... all of that I'm sure
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>>62562675
I literally have no idea its from some kind of movie. I thought its from some kind of stock photoshoot or amateur sports league or something
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I have $100,000 in mutual funds + Roth, $58k in student loans, and $2.5k to play around with (invested in indexes atm)
Am I retarded and should I leaves my indexes? I've been making 1.5% average a day on that 2.5k
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>>62562603
That's not what dividends are. You are describing risk factors that correlate with dividend payment that represent an uncorrelated (to the market) source of return. Please educate yourself.
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Looks like SpaceX at ~108 would have been a good buy. Suspect it’ll drop for one or two days now and then start climbing again. Most of the big ones that have mixed but overall good reports do that. It’ll happen to Apple too and I slurped some good VRT after their post report dip and now up 15% on it in just a few days.
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>>62562700
Even as the light novel posting bear of this thread I’m still not so sure on metals.
I’d rather have some good non-AI exposed equities.
Not the dogshit wrapped in cat shit like the “emerging market” ETFs.
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>>62562700
Hell ya brother
-HH
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>>62562708
It's Dead or Alive, based on the booba fightan game
I know it more from movie reviewers making fun of it way back in the day



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