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Implications of entire US economy becoming a one single bet on AI? What happens when China keeps undercutting them with free models
https://x.com/themarketear/status/2086162355902157267?s=20
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if AI doesnt boost productivity soon its completely over

AI became my brother's whole personnality btw he only talks about this
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AI progress has stalled, the end isn't too far off now.
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>>62576452
Please no. Life is just beginning
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If it doesnt work out the US govt will bail out everyone involved :)
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>>62576438
>Implications of entire US economy becoming a one single bet on AI?
What do you think? Do you think this is better than when it became a bet on housing and The Big Short happened?
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>>62576471
>the US govt will bail out everyone involved :)
Ok let's think about this. Let's say they bail them out. With what money? They alienated all their allies so bonds are cooked. They started another gas war so the petrodollar is cooked. So the only option is the US taxpayer's dollar. Hmm, I wonder what repercussions could possibly happen if the US taxpayers bail out the majority of the US economy...
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If the gov/fed has to decide between labor employment changes from AI (whether successful or not) or money printing (inflation), they will pick what they did during COVID. So make your investments accordingly with that in mind
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>>62576497
>the economy will be fine once Trump and his gaggle of retarded economists are gone.
Perhaps. But when will that be? End of 2028? Can the charade go on for that much longer?
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>>62576490
>>62576497
I guarantee they’ll drop the fraud and a wiley coyote moment will crash QQQ and other markets dems get into power.

LLMs already aren’t profitable and can’t even scale or really do what they say they do, the writing is on the wall. This is also just the economics, this is a piece of shit corrupt country.
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>>62576452
>>62576539
I dont understand how you can think that LLMs have stalled
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>>62576445
Same here. Brother is a dev and leveraged like 80% into investments towards his employer's startup. Lol lmao
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>>62576544
There’s not much to show for it and by 2030 OpenAI says it will need to spend ~800 billion and all of these little companies are starting to go bankrupt left and right due to leverage. This stuff isn’t even close to artificial intelligence.
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>>62576544
in my professional pseud opinion llms are progressing toward half a brain, the left half (if you're right handed), which processes and thinks in language and delineates hierarchies however you need two halves to make a full one and the right side is more concerned with "what am I doing" broadly which means the llms will never be able to direct toward meaningful production in a way a human can and spin in endless hyper focused loops meaning there still will be a human bottleneck. training a right brain llm is impossible because the right half has it's own language
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Has AI made your job easier?
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>>62576498
Money creation. All roads lead to hyperinflation. That's why I stack.
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>>62576598
its made scam attempts on my phone go up exponentially
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>>62576576
>it's own language
yes a language that is revealed to us every night in our dreams

top LLM scientists (these "it" guys who are celebs every time they change jobs but nobody gives a shit who they are actually so noone ever learned their names) will simply go to sleep and pre-cog the right brain parts for us, like minority report. sure the tech isn't there yet but that's the logical solution to that little problem

we'll probably have to pay them a lot more
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>>62576438
it just means the whole economy is fake and gay
we were saying that for some time now
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>>62576438
1% non-AI growth is pretty good, and better than I expected
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>>62576598
It made it harder. Previously there was a mix of easy, medium, and hard tasks, and I could think about the hard tasks while I do the easy ones. Now AI does everything simple, and I'm stuck with the shit it can't figure out. It made me more productive, definitely, but I still get the same pay for the same hours, so that doesn't directly benefit me.
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>>62576811
>top LLM scientists
they aren't even scientists, they have no clue how the models even work. a scientist uses trial and error to gain an understanding that can be used for technological breakthroughs. all they're doing is feeding more and more inputs into the beast and praying that something will finally make it actually useful to people.
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>>62576932
It's a lot more complicated than just pouring a lot of data into a funnel and turning a crank
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>>62576438
>What happens when China keeps undercutting them with free models
This is bad for the profits of companies that try to charge customers for access to proprietary AI models. It's not bad for hardware vendors or hardware owners.
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>>62576932
Einstein didn't know exactly how a nuclear bomb works. This was true even before AI came out. As things develop into a final product, there are a lot of nuances that go beyond what a single person can comprehend.
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>>62577940
Free is the most expensive one
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>>62577948
Whether you can get an AI model to say "Xinnie the Pooh" is irrelevant for 99.99999% of use cases
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>implications
/biz/ spent the last 4 years fudding nvidia and AI, and /smg/ is still bearish on Micron (and fudded it hard a year ago when it was cheap).

Just think about that.

We could all have made it, but some psycho boomer and doomer were screaming about how AI is over and to put all your money in 5% a year "guaranteed returns" from VOO.
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>>62576498
>With what money?
>bonds
>They started another gas war so the petrodollar is cooked
I swear this is the gayest and most retarded midwit shit of all. Petrodollar means that oil is traded in dollars, fighting a war for oil has nothing to do with any of that and the US is the largest oil producer in the world.

You say these dumb things because you think it makes you sound smart, you'll even seethe at my post, but you won't be able to explain why I'm wrong.

>>62576798
This. This fuckin retard thinks the dollar is a hard currency. Hahahaha.
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>>62576576
>there still will be a human bottleneck. training a right brain llm is impossible because the right half has it's own language
In the correct timeline this means Smrt guys with hgh iqs and colleg degrees run and make the llms do stuff, but since we live in the DEI negrojude timeline it means shaniqua will crash entire airplanes before the airfield is forced to hire a white guy to keep her from doing that.
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>>62577942
With machine learning, the lack of knowledge is the point. Rather than having humans design the AI, you let data design the AI. No human ever needs to understand how the AI works internally. No human ever will understand how a large AI works internally. It would be pretty much impossible for a human to try to understand it, because it is so incredibly complicated.
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>what happens when the country that isn't able to innovate and literally copies everything that the west does except in a worse way and extremely delayed becomes the leader of a technology they didn't invent?
Gee whiz, no clue.
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Worst case scenario is the power grid gets built out with much less redundancy. That's still a good outcome.
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>>62577994
As the environment determines human behavior, the data you put into a model determines what mode it operates in. Which data is selected or overweighted is still determined by its creators. Creators can tune models however they want, yet they often avoid liability for model bias while marketing the product as "AI."
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>>62576598
Yes, but it has also made it incredibly more boring
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>>62578009
Your post reads like something an LLM spat out

The humans can put whatever value in any individual part of the AI they want. They usually don't, because in most cases they don't have a clue what it does.

Humans design the process by which the data designs the AI. So humans understand the process by which the AI is designed. However, humans don't understand how exactly the end product works internally, because humans did not design it, and it is way too complicated for any human to ever understand. That's my point.
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What does AI actually offer to the average person more than making searching information slightly quicker and make images/writing with low-effort that look high-effort at glance?

Like I'm not saying those two things are nothing, they're definitely real use cases, but I don't think either of them are society changing in the same way TV, the internet, or smartphones were.
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>>62578040
its the biggest hoax in stock market history
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>>62576598
Yes, if I couldn't generate gay furry porn at the end of the day I would quit my job and then kill myself.



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