Are we still early, or is "we're early" just part of the Bitcoin cope?>17 years in, Bitcoin has already changed a lot. What do you think still needs to happen before we can say it's truly mainstream?
>cattle believes it hasn't been milked yet
>>62580116It is pretty much mainstream. You can pay with it already. When the goverments have more control of it of how you spend it ect. It will become mainstream. It pretty much is still an asset that you could call digital gold to park your money.
>>62580134huhh???
>>62580138Where do you park your btc
>>62580116The recent cold card hack was unfortunate for self custody - it will probs direct more folks towards the ETF.
>>62580220Never
>>62580206
>>62580116No, it's way too late now for an average person to make it off BTC.>Diminishing returns with each cycle, there's likely still some gains to be made but it's probably only a 3x-4x, and that's if you time the bottom and top perfectly>3x-4x is nowhere near make it gains unless you already have mid-high 6 figs to dump into it (in which case you've already semi-made it as S&P500 would return you enough yearly gains to live off of without wageslaving)>Crypto in general is mostly dead now, AI is the fresh new thing taking most of the liquidity and hype and "sound money" was outperformed the past year by almost every other asset class>Last chance to realistically make it was the 2020/21 cycle
>>62580134Lmao, maybe the cattle knows something we don't.
the best is behind usstraight downhill from here
>>62580220Almost like it was planned to centralise it even more. Bip110 was also proof of this
>>62580116>Bitcoin will be older than a ton of adults in a few yearsYoure late buddy
>>62581256What's that
>>62581282no, not late
>>62581256Yes, bip110 was a plan to centralize around this retard
>>62580116Capital controls will make it truly mainstream. If you know you glow
>>62581861Tell me
>>62581116Why so negative?
>>62581861Who you guy
>>62581893Do you know about it?
>>62580116She is now barely legal, bitch can be send to rape camp in a year.
>>62583870Who's she moron?
>>62581282still early
>>62580138yeah probably. govts will keep integrating/regulating btc as it gets bigger. but there's still a whole permissionless side of btc being built outside that system. kinda interesting desu
>>62581282its early for some reason
>>62586129What does it mean?
>>62586533just mean the things being built around native BTC that don’t depend on a bank or government approval. lending, staking, collateral, that kind of use case.
>>62580220I can see why it would push some people toward ETFs, but I think it also shows why self-custody practices need to keep improving. One incident shouldn’t define the whole model.
>>62586670I don't like staking it on centralised exchanges
>>62586998Same here. That’s why I went the Babylon route for staking. It’s native staking while still keeping custody of your coins.
>>62587121haven't tried though
>>62580116it will continue to grow . People will recall this in 10 yrs from now
>>62583870Think the opposite
>17 years oldby my calculations everyone on 4chan should have completely lost interest 5 years ago
>>62580116Bitcoin has reached the top of its s curve
>>62581282UMM actually 25 is the new adult hood age. The brain isn’t fully developed at 18 yikers sweaty
>>62587214You could give it a try sometime. You might find some interesting developments there, especially TBVs, which could unlock more use cases for Bitcoin.
>>62589292You think it's possible?
>>62587524Not yet
>>62589142Based hagposter
>>62589348Yeah, definitely possible. There’s already a public testnet with the Aave V4 integration, so you can try it yourself and get a feel for how the TBV use case works
>>6258914218 is legally adult, but 25 is probably when you start realizing how much you still don’t know
>>62589577I can't imagine any usecases for that
>>62586427For what?
>>62587509I guess so. degens are inactive
>>62580300>it's probably only a 3x-4x, and that's if you time the bottom and top perfectlyExplain what you believe the bottom and top will be
>>62589703There are actually quite a few lol. BTC-backed borrowing is just the starting point. The same rails could eventually be used for insurance, credit cards, Bitcoin-backed stablecoins etc. Might be worth digging into a bit more.
>>62589904inactive for what?
>>62589385Based
>>62580116YOU SICK FUCK
>>62590680What's your problem?
>>62590417bitcoin is the future
>>62590680
>>62590773Only if I had realized this earlier, I would have bought, and native staked it on Babylon instead of going for alts
>>62580116Bitcoin is still a newcomer at this stage.
Early. Bitcoin goes to ∞.Physical goods require active force simply to maintain ownership, trust-based assets require trusted third parties (TTPs) to operate them. Storing abstract economic value in either enables negative sum actors (NSAs) to parasite as negative sum actors can specialize exclusively in force, taking physical goods by force and either coercing TTPs, or using force to BECOME the TTP (the origin of State). Positive sum actors had to either reduce their own production to make time for murdering/imprisoning/exiling NSAs, pay extortion to them, or employ positive sum actors specializing in force (police/military), however, as abstract economic value was seizable, there was a constant selection pressure for these “immune cells” to turn malignant.Hence the cyclic nature of empire/nation growth and decay, positive sum actors build, negative sum actors corrupt and destroy, NSAs are excised & PSAs rebuild from the ashes. As can be seen, PSAs have been at a HUGE disadvantage to NSAs through history, the best “solution” we had come up with pre-BTC was Plato’s Benevolent Philosopher King, a perfectly trustworthy trusted third party, do you have any Benevolent Philosopher Kings lying around? Not a real solution.But by placing abstract economic value beyond the veil of voluntarity, positive sum actors can reverse the advantage. Satoshi has “fixed the glitch”, NSAs will no longer be able to parasite “so it'll just work itself out naturally”. No force, no confrontation, necessary.Bitcoin obsolesces coercion, achieving Voluntarism not via an impossible to implement memeshit “non-aggression principle”, but by removing the systemic profitability of force.
>>62581861Luke is an invert fraud like the rest of the mediaclass
>>62590975So young and innocent
>>62580220>hackcoinkite pls.
>>62590923Can we native stake btc?
>>62590989No way
