WTF is up with Car Prices, there simply no affordable cars anymore, but fucking BYDs are like $15k.
Europoors have no idea how overleveraged the average mutt is. It's probably 100x ngl between credit cards, mortgages, and car loans
>>62585021eurowealthies don't have debt?
Production still hasn't caught up to the stagnation from peak COVID months.
>>62585028We do. People don't own their houses or cars here, it's the same unaffordable shit that you have to take loans for. Admittedly, post-soviets sometimes get lucky and get a free apartment that grandma received from comrade premier in the 60s, but that's the farthest extent of privileges one can expect.
>>62585014>but fucking BYDs are like $15kthe cheapest model, in China, yup.that Burgers can't buy them *at all* tho, you know exactly who to blame for that. And that cunt Musk.
>>62585014That and every single brand of car/truck has multiple makes/models across multiple years where you should not buy ANY model because they're crap.
>>62585014Most Americans know next to nothing about industrial policy despite the US pursuing very similar goals 100 years ago. They either believe in libertarianism or other forms of free trade (liberalism, conservatism, neoliberalism). Even American democratic socialists believe in free trade LOL
>Amerimutts are banned from buying BYD
>>62585014>BYDs are like $15k.There are two sides now. Rich get the good stuff, poor gets chinese bullshit. They are doing the ying/yang of markets now.
I bought a bunch of shit in 2023 cause I knew prices would keep going up…Milton Friedman said it’s the only thing you can do to battle inflation…bought a truck, tractor, and side by side…all up 20-30% in price already
>>62585376Same 2022-2023. Don’t regret it.
>>62585376wow you bought depreciating assets you are so smart
>>62585014wtf is byd? build your dream?
>>62585482All physical assets are depreciating assets. Including homes.
things in china get cheaper while things in the west get more expensiveWe are a civilization in decline, and retards wonder why everything gets worse year by year
theres 100 million boomers only concerned with the value of their homeDo they give it to their kids before their kids turn 60? nope
>>62585482Yes, before the become twice as expensive and half as durable…cars are pretty much 100k mile subscriptions now
>>62585014>protect your billiionaire business runners who are overcharging and keep the cheap better vehicles outor>let the cheap, better vehicles in and let the market be truly free, rooting out all the corrupt CEOs that are keeping prices inflatedhmm I wonder who controls the government. America is no longer what it was originally found upon: free
>>62585655yeah they totally got 50% shittier in just 3 years you are so right and smart
>>62585014I buy a 75k new car. I should have to pay a subscription fee to turn it on. And they have every right to log all data from me in realtime as I use the vehicle.
>>62585755They ain’t getting better, fuel mileage mandates, v6 twin turbos instead of v8’s…many smaller cars are direct injection now so the valves get massive carbon build up on them…new shit sucks…peak was like late 2000’s, early 2010’s
>>62585816face it you wanted new toys you're just trying to justifying the expense
>>62585482>Bought a low mileage 23 Ioniq 5 limited back in January of this year >$25k out the door total price >Dealer is offering me $30k to buy it backI've never had a car appreciate in value.
>>62585918Take it…you probably never will make money on one again…I sold a truck for 10k more than I paid for it once, bought a new one tax free since it was in the same year
>>62585014Heavy subsidies from the Chinese government, the typical shitty labor conditions in China and early adopt of AI. Also they steal whatever intellectual property they can of course.
>>62585014Your country is losing a trade war bigly.But also Ford is supposedly coming out with a ~$25k EV pickup soon.
>>62585984>Heavy subsidies from the Chinese governmentCan you post the numbers, please?Also post the numbers for american and european cars, as well as subsidies on oil and fuel
Used 2022 Corolla for 18k. Oh nvm, you meant one of those large tanks dudes use to haul groceries.
>>62585975but I still need a car anon if I sell this one I gotta buy another
>he thinks 15k is cheap for a BYDchongloanKEKS make everyone's life pathetic buying things they cant afford with money they dont have
>>62585363Good. Now they can focus on quality custom-makes for me instead of cutting corners to keep shit affordable for the poor slumdwellers.
>>62586012Its amazing how trumps economy is kicking everyones ass. Canada and the EU in recession, chyna crashing. Trump really knows his stuff this war with Iran really helped the American oil industry and jobs market
>>62585014Just wait until they pass a law making it illegal to drive a car on public roads that does not have current year glownigger remote access features.
90k premium suvs are like 35k here now in the UK, that seems pretty good to me
>>62585363Yeah this is K shape economy shit. Companies in general along w/ car companies are catering exclusively to top 5-10% of income/wealth and not bothering with the poor masses. They would rather sell a 70k “luxury” vehicle with 20k profit margin to a guy making 300k than sell 4 economy vehicles with a 3k profit margin/car for $15k each to four poorfags making 50k/yr. This works because the top few % of the economy account for well over half of consumer spending, sometimes approaching 70-80% and they control most of the wealth as well. Brokies are not worth catering to anymore because they’re completely squeezed and maxed out already.
>>62585014Yes, the U.S. is collapsing…painfully slowly.
>>62586966based and land of freedumbpilled
>>62585975And what will he drive? Buy a potentially worse care for the same money? Wow
How long until we let China import cars and then our entire industry folds in like a year
>>62587312the real question maybe, is then an Industry that cannot survive competition worth saving?
>>62587333I agree with the argument that you have to retain a basic amount of domestic industry/manufacturing in order to not become totally reliant on a rival and primed for destruction in the event of any war or conflict. But I don't like how some of our domestic industries become so anti-consumer due to the lack of real market pressure. Ford/GM are so horrifically mismanaged it isn't even funny. There is no reason we can't just make some good affordable fucking cars.
>>62585028Average debt is much lower generally in Europe, and there isn't the same credit card culture. Median net wealth is also higher in western and northern Europe compared to the USA, which makes me roll my eyes at the "europoor" rhetoric. A tiny minority of Americans are extremely wealthy, and the rest of them spend their entire lives making huge debt payments in order to pretend to be wealthy. Buying a big truck on finance is just the norm over there, whereas in Europe there is more of a respect towards older cars, the same way there isn't the same stigma for living at home (another reason why Europeans are wealthier).
>>62587359>There is no reason we can't just make some good affordable fucking carsarguably, anti-competitive legislation IS the reason. But while I appreciate the (valid) 'reliance' argument, insulating domestic manufacturers against foreign competition seldom proves justifiable.
