I've recently gone down the rabbit hole on blackjack card counting and am wondering if any of the hustlers here on /biz/ make anything significant off of it/
>>62647597they just ban you and kick you out if you have an edge
>>62647613No they don't. Casinos LOVE "advantage" players because none of them actually have an advantage. 99999/100000 people fuck up frequently enough that the advantage they think they have is gone. Casinos sell "how to count cards" booklets in the gift store. The MIT team, Breaking Bad, etc, etc have been nothing but pure win for casinos.
>>62647626maybe for midwits like you. its actually very easy to count cards so you get banned very quickly if you are competent
>>62647626The people you describe don't have an edge. People who actually do have an edge are identified early on and banned
>>62647626I've been watching steven bridges on jewtube.I think he makes more money from views than the blackjack wins.
>>62647626It's for people that actually play with real money not 5 dollar hands.
Better off playing poker against some fish
>>62647597counting is a cool party trick but nothing more i'm afraid. the only way to generate decent EV is large bet spreads but large bet spreads is also how you get backed off. a "professional" card counter spends 10% of his time playing and 90% traveling to a new venue. it's simply not worth the time.>>62647626it's not difficult to become a BJ AP. anyone could do it with a few weeks of dedicated practice. casinos sell basic strategy charts, they definitely don't teach people how to count.
its funny how gambling was super unpopular with young people because everyone knew it was a dumb scam. then they started using degen streamers to promote it and now theres a healthy gambling base for young people now. they watch these scripted streams and streams where people play with fake money and think its totally real, and that theyre one of the people thats going to totally figure out a smart way to gamble.if you gamble you are a sucker. if you gamble and expect to somehow win out you are a massive retard.
>>62649477ThisSo many retards ittBetter off on r/cryptomoonshots you stupid niggers
>>62649844OP clearly stated advantaged gambling. if u can't tell the difference between counting cards and throwing your money away at a casino you're retarded.
>>62647811>>62647613> have an edge
>>62650059Yes count cards with the 10 deck shoe you stupid nigger Report back and tell me how it goes
>>62647626Huh, never thought about it that way. Same idea as a counter scam in Runescape.>someone tries to scam you>you know about the scam and have a counter>turns out there's a second scam layered on top you didn't know about>get scammedAlso, surely MMO trading/economics is allowed on this board, right?
>>62650351Yes. And you can see it from all the retarded replies in this thread. "Hurr durr counting cards is easy! Anyone can do it midwit!". Yes, counting cards is easy. Counting cards and playing PERFECTLY without mistakes is much much harder. And all you have to do is make a few wrong decisions and your edge is vaporized. They misunderstand how quickly everything goes sideways if you're not absolutely flawless. And that's why the casinos don't give a fuck - the confident card counters are going to lose.Same deal with video poker by the way. There are people with "systems" where they can demonstrate a very minor edge under certain conditions with perfect play. But they key is PERFECT PLAY. Even one mistake throws the math off and you're a guaranteed loser.
>>62650376Conversations like this are why i will never take the internet seriously in regards to anything, theres so much 80% correct info going around but the last 20% being changed changes everything.They will ban your ass, perfect play isn't that hard. They will ban your ass for imperfect play too half the time, they're jumpy. >i was a "professional gambler" for yearsPic is me nigger
>>62647597I went through a blackjack phase. Biggest waste of time and was just an excuse to justify my gambling addiction.
>>62647811casinos these days will use a brand new deck so often, even every hand at some places, that you won't be able to do it. the only games in a casino with the best odds of winning is the poker room/texas holdem
>>62647597Replying to my own thread, but I've got an idea. Bring in meta glasses/a livestream camera either carefully concealed, or out in the open because you are a "youtuber." It streams straight to an accomplice who has a perfect blackjack card counting bot on a very strong computer, maybe with ai to estimate shoe size. You get a vibrating butt plug a la Hans Neiman and pull the ol' gambit in blackjack. Of course, I'm joking and you'd use a tiny earpiece or something, but I feel like this could definitely work and there are people probably getting away with it right now.
>>62650770it would take you a lot less time to just learn to count yourself. a computer can only squeeze a tiny fraction more ev than a human using basic and the "illustrious 18" deviations. also, if you're caught using a computer you can be criminally charged and they can keep your money. counting, on the other hand, is 100% legal.>>62650376a monkey can memorize basic strategy and play "perfect blackjack" in less than 24 hours. this alone cuts the house edge to 1%. it takes very little to push this to your favor. even an inexperienced counter who's routinely off by 1 or 2 and making deviation mistakes will still be profitable if he piles the money in when the count goes super positive.>>62650619nice. what kind of bet spreads? biggest winning session? biggest loser?
>>62650739they don't really, they make more money by not switching decks (so they can deal more hands) and just ban the card counters
Counting is the easy part, and it's still easy to slip and mis-count in extended sessions with big shoes. The problem is remembering all the strategies for optimal EV and executing them perfectly. Casinos monitor every table and have the technology to know themselves what the count is, and if your bet pattern aligns with the count too closely they will boot you regardless of whether you are winning or not.
