what happened? the boj intervention worked? the big bessent cock worked its magic?i was assured that the yen was doomed to hyperinflation.
>>62656039???????Its going up
>>62656044>what happened?Why are you asking me? What the fuck do I know.
Yield inverted?
>>62656443Midwits expect assets to fall as bond yields become more attractive.Meanwhile in reality investors are fleeing into assets because hyperinflation is very clearly written on the wall, and bond yields won't be attractive at any rate to anyone with a triple digit IQ
>>62656039BOJ is going to be forced to hike and sell USD bonds. YCT is dead and if Nippon's going down they're taking us with them.
>>62656044Bank of Japan doing shenanigans and/or people betting on BoJ rate hikes.
>>62656501Pretty based.Bullish for the Swiss Franc and gold.
>>62656039NECKBEARDS IN SHAMBLES
>>62656443The yids are inverted
Explain to me why we give a shit about Japan? If they collapse we can just drop a couple more nukes. Worked last time
>>62656617everybody is borrowing yen to loan out other stuff. we don't care about Japan, just the yen
>>62656051this chart is the USD to Yen ratiorumors about quicker rate hikes caused the yen to soar this morningso the yen carry trade is doomed and so is the fake worldwide empire of debt that relies in itthis is the green light to start catching slaves and digging up all that ammo you buried
>>62656626>>62656654I'm not sure I understand, how is exactly japan geting hyperinflation, will make the rest of the world get into financial depression, anyone can let me in the domino effect that will be at work?
>>62656694>how is exactly japan geting hyperinflation, will make the rest of the world get into financial depressioneveryone is borrowing cheap yenif the value of what they borrow falls, their buying power also falls, and then the numbers go down which makes a bunch of problems for banks whose business is 85% just lending
>>62656694Japan's Yen just strengthened from 160 per USD to 155, in a single day, based on a rumor that the BOJ will start hiking interest rates more quickly. higher interest rates for the yen makes the Yen Carry Trade (which has been propping up the global debt empire for years) untenable.without the YCT the west must adopt austerity. austerity is going mainstream in the USA now.
>>62656523>SwissNo one tell him about CS. They're screwed too.
>fiat currency
>>62656751>without the YCT the west must tax the wealthy and nationalize their excess assetsFixed.
>>62656831no dude, you see, there's nothing to tax.no amount of taxation or nationalization will ever pay off the monstrous debt that this piece of shit government has built up. and there will be even less capital when the YCT hits the fan.hence why just a few months ago, it was said:https://fortune.com/2025/12/06/us-debt-crisis-soution-severe-austerity-fiscal-calamity-default-rates-financial-repression/>most likely solution to the U.S. debt crisis is severe austerity triggered by a fiscal calamity, former White House economic adviserstick it to em, stick it to em!!!
>>62656039I thought they said they were done with this?
>>62656869>fortuneNah, that's just what rich people want you to think so that they don't have to give anything up.What you actually do is seize the land and corporate equity of t-bill owners and then sell it back to them for the t-bills, which you then retire.>But-It was a Ponzi scheme from jump, you can't make everyone "whole". You draw a line and then give everyone back as much of their initial contribution as you can, which is capped at the capital that already exists. It's certainly a global shitstorm that will take a while to unwind, but the absolute worst thing you could do is hobble future productivity by insisting that everyone who bought into what was clearly unsustainable be paid back in perpetuity on the backs of people who weren't even around when the first deals were being made. We're not doing that.
>>62657040oh look another peasant with a pathological hatred for "the rich" and an irrational love of the state. "what you do is that freaky deaky communist thang that's already been tried ad infinitum to keep the shit show chuggin' along. i would know from having gotten me one of them thar edjumakayshan thangs"no dude, we're not going to allow this problem to metastasize just because you are addicted to an 800 dollar a month welfare check, unlimited low quality immigration and gynocracy. it's over. austerity is coming
>>62656039Is anyone else’s immediate thoughts how much cheaper teen street pussy will be?
>>62656060>Why are you asking me? What the fuck do I know.most honest post on /biz/ award
>>62657112>use the private banking cartel to print the money, give it to yourself, buy everything of value in the real world, and dump the bill on the heads of wagies>hurrdurr you just hate the richUnironically nepobabies are going to need to come to terms with the system being one big scam, their family trees being scam insiders, and voluntary agree to dissolve the scam gracefully or the wagies are going to stop contributing and everyone goes down with the ship together. If you are truly exceptional and not just benefiting from a scam, you’ll still retain your valuables in the aftermath, you’d only seethe and dilate if you know you’re incompetent filth that’d be fent leaning if not for being in on the scam.
>>62656617Collateral impacts of the collapse of the fourth largest economy in the world.Also, fundamentally a check on maximal debt load a country can carry. That will cause a massive shock to all bond markets. Once Japan collapses then Eurozone and USA will be on suicide watch.Beyond the immediate impact, hyperinflation, economic collapse etc it'll be a fundamental end, or at list limit to the fiat money approach.Basically we (mostly the US and some other developed countries) spent 50 something years printing and borrowing (often with printed money) wildly large amounts well beyond any amount of tax revenue today or in the foreseeable future.So this entire military-welfare super state has been propped up by infinite free money and that's set to end. If we can't pay for free shit for people that's going to fuck over how most of the country lives.
>>62656694Japan's a big consumer economy and if they import less goods it'll have an impact on the rest of the world. If they're also dealing with higher fuel prices due to both dollar prices of oil as well as the yen itself falling in value compared to the dollar, they also won't be able to use the devalued currency to offer cheaper exports since energy costs are forcing prices up. So they're just going to make less money and buy less stuff and it'll fuck up everyone else.
>>62657118JK pussy is more expensive now.
>>62656617Even though you're doing the right thing by asking and trying to learn, I’m glad people like you are my trade counterpart.
>>62657342pussy has always been free. just look what happened to elizabeth "not so" smart.
>>62656039I blame tranime.
>buying the fiat Jews bagsThe absolute state of the goyim
>>62657316Is this the part where I own nothing?
>>62657316There will also be less anime produced thoughbeit
>>62656472Ten year TIPS looking pretty good these days
>>62657442Kinda but not in a "live in a pod and eat the slop" way, in a "there's fucking nothing the government has now" way
>>62656039>the yen failed because it takes the jp less money to get the same amount from burgernese yesterdayhow did everyone learned to breath itself is a wonder
>>62656039something massive is going to happen to weaken the US dollar, and im not ready for whatever that is
>>62657693Make your time
>>62657112My economic ideology is like my sexuality, impossible to categorize.If I had to put everything in a word, it's "balance." We've spent decades printing and the rich have been the ones at the front of the money printer line. It's time to settle up. If they don't have cash they'll have to sell. If they can't sell they'll have to fork over capital. No amount of labor can flatten the speculative mountain we've built, it's wealth taxes or watch everything burn (not a threat, just a law).The nice part is that the resources and logistics lines and institutional knowledge don't just disappear, at all in the short term and as long as people have a reason to maintain them in the long term.
>>62657316>>62657337I don't think that people are understanding the issue. Japan's economy isn't doomed. It will just be very painful. They're basically being forced into vampirizing the Western world, which they don't want to do for a host of reasons, but primarily because, without us, they have to try to sell to China/SEA/Middle East/Africa, and they can't rely on US military power. They're not about to be insolvent/get forced into hyperinflation, because the YCT reversing funnels hundreds of trillions of yen back into their economy.
a fair value for the yen would be like ~110-120. It was always going to come down, although it might not go back to fair value for a long time. If you didn't buy yen around the time besset did at ATH you're ngmi in currency trade.
>muh currency which can just be replaced like mass freefalled ones of the pastMeanwhile 2.3 trillion dollars will be invested by japan into their robot and ai sector by 2040.
>>62658105>They're not about to be insolvent/get forced into hyperinflation, because the YCT reversing funnels hundreds of trillions of yen back into their economythat's literally the definition of hyperinflation, tard.
>>62658306the past was before MMT and globalization. the current global debt monster depends on yen. if the yen fails everybody fails. it's all interconnected.even if Japan came up with a new currency they've still got an inverted population pyramid and their kids are broke. the people in Japan currently buying US debt to keep this system afloat are mostly old men. when they die there is literally no one there to keep buying this debt.
>>62657693>>62657723They're scrambling internally to unify against the shrinking poor. It can't go on for that single reason the financial system if built around extortion, and the few people who want power needs to share it to hold it.They're mostly divided on gold, stablecoins and control of the legacy banks. And then all the companies working for the 'gov' those three groups battle in but that's mostly side business as usual for those people.If they continue advancing on all three fronts we'll see very, very large amounts of infrastructure sabotage conveniently where their different supply lines are based. Also, there's a rift on who's 'allowed' to have henchmen and who's on the no-go lists. Who mostly are on the legacy side payroll but their base is shrinking because gold hoarders bet on government insolvencies and their empire is hit by the same forces they're letting out. They can't make a narrative both supporting western suicide and holding the reins of the old empire simultaneously because they have no wisdom.
>>62658315They're $40 trillion in debt, it nets out, dumbass.
>>62657123kek
>>62656039Thenyen s in hyper inflation youental midget
>>62656039At least from ten years ago people have been talking about the implications and consequences but the day seemed to never come it was always two weeks away, it got like many other things. Right now i usually go to pol to just further contaminate more and call everything reasonable and could be an educated guesses as panicans, it's fun it helps to deteriorate the discourse.
>>62656869Midwit takeThe tax is through inflation
>>62656831The big Democrat lie is that we can keep doing what we are doing if we just tax the wealthy sufficiently onerously. The big Republican lie is that we can keep doing what we are doing if we just cut out waste and kick the bums off the gibs.Neither is even remotely close to being true. But the lies allow politicians to avoid facing the truth. Meanwhile the train continues full speed for the collapsed bridge. Hold onto your bonnets.
>>62658323Japan has something that the West can barely understand: cultural solidarity and almost pathological conscientiousness. Three days after the USA nuked Hiroshima, they had some streetcars running. Ten years after their entire industrial capacity was burned to the ground and half the men were killed, their economy was BIGGER than it had been before the war. Twenty years later they launched the world's first bullet train. Japan will be better off after the global MMT scam explodes and the USA gets its boot off their neck.
>>62656044The price of Oman Crude. (FYI Oman Crude is the benchmark for all the gulf countries at the DME). It’s over $100 and rising hard. This is the main benchmark that Asia cares about. After the huge increase in shipping and insurance (was +600% but now accelerating obviously). The price of delivered heavy/medium sour crude to Asia might be pushing $160 dollars already. If the Yen doesn’t strengthen rapidly (they can’t affect the energy inflation all they have is monetary firepower). Then the are facing imminent crisis. And this reserve buffers are still helping alleviate the onset. It’s not going to last much longer.
>>62658092>If they don't have cash they'll have to sell.To who? The other wealthy people you plan to tax and also have to sell their assets, and therefore don't have any liquidity to buy with, or the average person, who you'll claim in the same breath are all living paycheck to paycheck? The world isn't a video game where the shopkeeper has infinite gold to give you to in exchange for infinite bear asses, you can't just click "sell" on the exchange, there has to be a buyer, and if you tax all the buyers and market makers to the point where they have to liquidate, then no equities can be sold anymore and businesses have to start liquidating and now there's nothing on store shelves because there's no companies making things, growing food, or pulling materials out of the ground anymore, you utter fucking moron.
all u gay niggers have been yapping about this for monthsgo to bed, its fine, there is no happening here, ur just gay niggers making up retarded shit and then getting excited about it
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>>62666046it just rugged again.
>>62656751Austerity in America would lead to a global depression.
>>62656039>USD/JPY>1 USD for 155 JPY>you need less JPY to buy one USD>which means JPY is stronger>but the thread suggests it's weaker and the entire thread acts like it isAnd this is the so-called retail iNvEsToRs. Wow. Just wow.
>>62656472>hyperinflationThe good news is you'll see a lot of pretty girls at the park.
>>62656617because Japan holds over 1T in bonds, if they start to sell that off that means yields will have to rise and borrowing money in the US becomes even more expensive.
>>62668422yeah i was scrolling down the thread wondering if anyone else was an actual person, it's insane. is every other reply just an AI parroting the text, but not able to see/understand the image in the OP? >inb4idc it's just insane that /biz/ has come to this lmao.
>>62663543define what you mean by that being the democrat lie. I'm not an american and we have a surplus because we're resource rich, but it seems if you taxed wealth you'd be fine, or at least begin to trend towards surplus. I want evidence of your claim, not just a regurgitation of the whole billionaires make no income because they get paid in stocks they never sell and therefore never pay capital gains tax against whilst borrowing living expenses. If you tax that wealth I imagine it makes sense whereas if we use numbers that exclude that.
So, how does the carry trade work?Are they borrowing real Yen, or Bank created inflationary "Yen"?If the carry traders dump, is it going to inflate the Yen is what I'm getting at.It's been reported that Japan holds $1.1T in US Treasuries, is that just sovereign wealth or a basket of Yen based purchases of treasuries, AKA carry traders?Is there a large internal carry trade?Asahi Group Holdings for instance, pays 3.74% dividend, surely the Japanese themselves have been running the numbers, Are they in for an equities crash?Does Japan have any bastion industries that can weather a currency collapse?They obviously make a lot of cars, but they import the steel. They also import most of their food...If the Yen completely collapses, will Logan Paul go back to the Japanese suicide forest for another video?
Just print new money and buy bad debt.
>>62656039Importing another 1 million jeets will fix this and Japan's birth rate
>>62656751The USA has too much diversity for austerity to be an option. Diversity is baked in and only works with massive fire hose shooting dollars everywhere as fast as they can be printed. The second that turns off it will just be race wars and nigger chimp outs.
>>62669756India will protect them from the Chinese commies.
>>62669761India can't beat Pakis with decade old Chinese hand me downs lmao
>>62657316Reddit liberals told me the debt literally does not matter. They were extremely smug and mean-spirited when they said it too, which means they must be correct.
>>62656472Idk man, I’d rather lock in a guaranteed rate than deal with the stock market losing %1 a month for the next 12 years.
>>62669764India is the world's largest English speaking democracy. They are natural allies and friends of Japan and the rules based order.
