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But there is nowhere to go with your savings anymore. Very high inflation will only cause very high rates and a fucked up market.
We are fucked. If you didnt make it in the last 3 years you are fucked.
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>>62703312
As long as line goes up I'm sitting pretty.
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>>62703312
i wonder what my rent will be
i think i will just be homeless. live in a shelter but keep my valuables like smart phone in a safe deposit box. buy a cheap burner i can afford to have stolen. only carry a single credit card in my shoe.
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>>62703319
>As long as line goes up
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>>62703325
Well...will it?

>it will.
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the oil thing benefits no one
midterms will come, the orange retard will be neutered and slowly things will go back to normal
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>>62703338
>things will go back to normal
lmao. get a helmet buddy.
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>>62703338
Leaf retard

Trump being 'neutered' is the worst thing that can happen at this stage as Iranoids will be emboldened to keep the strait closed.
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>>62703400
This
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>>62703312
China has a stock market you can invest in too
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>>62703793
Chinese stocks have been eating a pile of shit while the rest of the indexes have been flying. Fuck China.
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>>62703319
Line going up in nominal terms means jack shit when it's going down in real terms. Just ask all the billionaires in Zimbabwe
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>>62703338
The oil thing benefits the US. Who do you think the largest oil producer in the world is?
Hint hint:
It's the US.
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>>62703815
imagine being this naive. you should post less and learn more. it's definitely worse for many other countries (Europe) but it doesn't benefit us. I'm sure some of the retards in our government believe their shitty AI when it tells them that, of course. It also thinks men get pregnant.
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>>62703855
Whatever. Stocks will go up. Who cares
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Land will go up
Real estate will go up
Gold will go up
BTC will go up (yes, it will)
A few other crypto heavily tied to finance and tokenizations will go up (are you seething yet?)
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>>62703312
hard assets. gold, silver, bitcoin, pokemon cards, high level harry potter collectibles, 1st ed. books, antiques... come on man. Use your head, stop being a fucking doomer. WAGMI frens
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>>62703933
when rates go up sharply gold, sivler, bitcoin,.. get fucked
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>>62703933
you can't eat gold, retard
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>>62703312
Buy a house on a mortgage then. Inflation will basically write the loan off for you. Enjoy your free house.
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hyperinflation is coming
which is why I am debt maxxing
bought a nice lakehouse last year, a new boat and car this year and am loading up on credit card debt to buy gold and silver
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>>62703933
Sure, but if you're not already sitting on 7 figs in hard assets you're going to have a bad time. These things will go up in nominal terms, but down in real terms as people begin to prioritize essentials like having a roof over their heads
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>>62703312
Park money in AUD or another currency.
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>>62703418
They don't want it closed either. They want reparations, and since Americans are not bound by honor or law, they will take it from shipping instead. America can't accept this because it will look like defeat... although by this point you'd think they'd be used to it..
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>>62703986
>AUD
lol, lmao even
AUD is beholden to Chinese commodity demand and that is falling off a cliff, also the AUS government is bonkers
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>>62703312
If that’s the case then just buy Berkshire stocks
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>>62703986
>he thinks there will be fiat currencies that will come out of this unscathed
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>>62703312
commodities, energy, defence tech, btc. if you think they will be fucked too then give up and accumulate tinned food and cigs
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>>62703338
>things will go back to normal
Sadly we are at a point of no return. Regardless of who is in office now, the US is fucked on a global scale and there’s no way it will ever return to a state of normalcy. I mean, things stopped being normal years before trump even got into politics but this jew really took things to the next level
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>>62703959
You need like $300k income to get a mortgage in a good area.
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>>62703971
>prioritize essentials like having a roof over their heads
With what money?
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>>62704328
Rent.
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>>62704353
I’ll ask again. With what money? People are already struggling to keep up with rent today. What do you think happens to those same people in a hyper-inflated scenario?
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>>62704420
They clearly aren’t actually “struggling.”
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So it's over?
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>2% hyperflation

Yall have white incel brain rot
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>>62704439
we haven't had 2% inflation since long before covid, retard
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>>62704439
Get out of our space you fucking chimp
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>>62704420
What happens? They only spend on rent.
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>>62704454
the only winners in this k-shaped economy are the owner class. aka boomers, rich chinese/indians that don't live here yet own houses, REI firms, etc.
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>>62703312
Hyperdeflation is coming, actually
>AI takes everyone's job
>everyone stops spending
>velocity of money plummets
>deflationary spiral starts
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>>62704448
>>62704448
>our space
>>62704446
The chicken little crybaby corner? There is literally no inflation, everyone around the world loves the $ except white incels who are economically illiterate. Bbbbbbut in the future muh hyperinflation cuz i read it on s white incel crybaby forum 14888 times that hyperinflation even though i dont know what it means like chicken breast is $2 a pound thats hyperinflation everything should be free cuz im white boomers got free virgins and boomers got free houses gimme gimme gimme waaaaaaaaaaaaah

Lmao thats ur life until you die
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>>62704472
no, the AI companies will redistribute to prevent the implosion of that economy that supports them. it will take a while before we simple unwind from a monetary-based economy and instead use some form of rationing or credit per person, probably with some asshole putting the thumb on the scale for people who shit out children again.
but we're still be using money long after we stop earning money.
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>>62704472
my body is ready
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>>62704472
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>>62703312
>gold set for another spectacular bull run
>nowhere to go with your savings
Okay...
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>>62704472
Short term hyperdeflation is possible.. it always ends in hyperinflation though since you can print money to get out of HyPeDe but can never unprint for HyPeIn
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>>62703815
Benefits American oil companies maybe. More k-shaped economics.
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>>62704111
yeah? and what is going to happen when old fart buffet kicks the bucket?
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>>62703944
Can you eat a stock portfolio? A tractor? An office building? Edibility is a very strange way to evaluate an asset.
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>>62704531
All the white incels crying instead of buying oil stocks
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>>62704494
the money will be the inputs
there's scarcity in inputs
and by inputs, I mean commodities or basic materials
basic materials is a big gamble, though. productivity gains makes shit more cheap. When everybody can start their own basic materials robot factories, the competition will be fierce It will be hard to even break even

commodities, though, they will be scarce
they can be exploited more efficiently, and faster, and more of it. But it's going to be finite

Silver would be the safest choice
it's money
plus it's an industrial input, and it has scarcity.
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>>62704428
>>62704454
Ackshually they are. A lot of people are even having to move back in with their parents, who they themselves are having to get out of retirement to work while living paycheck to paycheck. With hyperinflation, having a roof over their heads will be secondary to having food to eat. When it comes down to it, the money that people barely have to pay rent will be used for food instead. A roof over your head won’t stop you and your family from starving
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>>62704799
They will cut back on smart phones and wifi and subscription services first.
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>>62703312
>hyperinflation
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>>62704586
Silver is the biggest loser investment of all time. Lost 99% against housing since 1980
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>>62704493
Retard.
Get gassed.
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>>62703312
Just buy btc.
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>>62705019
Housing has been propped up since 1965.
Remigration would remove 35% of the population.
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>>62703312
>No mortgage.
>No debts.
Feels good man.
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>>62705064
>Remigration would remove 35% of the population

Is that happening? No. Point is silver is a shit investment . Its a rock. It just sits there
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>>62705098
>No debts.
That's not a good thing during hyperinflation my guy, you want to be debtmaxxed. Your million dollar mortgage is still a million dollars even if a few years later the currency has gone to shit and you get paid a thousand bucks an hour at McDonald's.
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>>62703312
The only reason you'd be concerned about a place to "go" is if you had something to stash away. If you don't, there's no sense worrying. If you do, you should just be buying the things you want to have before they get to be too expensive.

Simple as.
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>>62705181
>what are interest rates.
Lol, lmao.
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>>62705211
I have a lot of savings and gains i made in the last 3 years. What is the point of making 30% if inflation goes up 30%?
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>>62703319
The line is literally flat as the dollar inflates you clown. I swear nobody on this site is even real anymore, just gaslighting bots trying to prevent the coming violence.
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>>62705459
You losers want hyperinflation so bad. Not gonna happen incel
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>>62705371
that's why you have to now make 60%, then you're doing okay.
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>>62705459
Macron did gay interracial porno?
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>>62705472
Nigga doing 60% is next to impossible.
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>>62705019
IQDelete broke containment again
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>>62705473
>gay interracial porno

Good description of France in the current year
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>>62703888

everything you are saying is wrong except gold

real estate will go down (your neighborhood is worth nothing when the power shuts off because utility companies can't find investors)


land becomes worthless without affordable petrochemicals (all modern agriculture depends on oil)


btc will go down for the same reason as real estate (btc is worthless without affordable electricity and functioning power grids; it's extremely energetically expensive to maintain btc)
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>>62703971

you are fucking retarded like OP. anyone who is "sitting on six figures of assets" is going to be royally fucked. it's "the people who made it" who get royally fucked in hyperinflation.


this forum is just gen z idiots pulling shit oit of their cancerous rectums
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>>62705561
If power is shutting off then my .22lr ammo, and rice bucket fort will be worth more than your gold
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>>62705561
What are you gonna buy for gold if shtf gay sex?
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>>62705570
>>62705584

prole comments. gold is caste. look at history the ruling classes are the ones who have the gold. google "scythian gold". this is what the kings of SHTF owned.

your .22lr will be worthless because wildlife has already been reduced to all time lows and there won't be enough animals to hunt. tethering yourself to a bucket of rice will just make you immobile and dependent on remaining in one place all the time. you'll get cannibalized by nomads.

all practical things and all inert immovable heavy things have no value. all that has ever, ever had any value is the gold. no gold, no glory.


get cannibalized niggas.
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>>62705601
Ok, good luck with your highly mobile coin purse lmao…nobody is gonna give you two shits for gold, they won’t even know if it’s real or not
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>>62705181
>and you get paid a thousand bucks an hour at McDonald's.
thats where you are wrong about your assumptions. All you have done is put yourself into a debt trap you wont be able to escape from when hyperinflation hits
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>>62703312
>there is nowhere to go with your savings anymore
Gold
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>>62705650

i can't believe there are idiots here who think getting in to debt is a good thing because inflation.


do you idiots not realize that the KYC surveillance technology is in the hands of the creditors. that slavery is still legal in the USA for criminals and debtors prisons still exist.

in hyperinflation you can be hunted down, captured and taken to a concentration camp. your eyes can be torn out of their sockets and your tongue cannbe chopped off. they can hammer little pieces of bamboo up your toenails and make you dance on a charcoal grill singing "we can dance if we want to". they can slash your throat or they can rub your face back and forth across the carpet until you have fifth degree burns. they are doing all of this to ICE detainees as I type this. there is quite literally nothing they cannot do to anyone who owes outstanding debts.
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>>62703940
Rates are only going up because there's inflation. Watch bond yields, the hikes are still not enough to deal with the inflation because Walsh is a political puppet. Gold will moon.

Long term it's hard to say, because there are disinflationary trends as well as inflationary trends. Declining population is disinflationary, but then you have global warming and increased barriers to free trade which are inflationary as well as just plain old resource over-exploitation which is going to become a bigger deal for a lot of stuff going forward. Ultimately the neoliberals are right that globalization leads to low cost goods. It's not without costs though as we all know, but if you decide to reverse that globalization as we are currently seeing, there are also costs, especially when done in a stupid and incorrect way like Trump is doing.
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>>62705650
It all depends on the rate you were given. A lot of those 2% mortgages from banks probably feel pretty silly right about now from the banks perspective.
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>>62703312
>Hyperinflation is coming
You faggots have been saying this for literally 20+ years.
We will not have hyperinflation. It won't happen.
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>>62705679
Ur dumb. There were no 2% rates and banks sell the mortgages
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>>62705698

20 year old commenter detected

>The U.S. dollar has lost approximately 42% of its purchasing power since 2005, meaning $100 from that year is equivalent to roughly $171 today. This decline is driven by a cumulative inflation rate of about 71% over the 21-year period, with an average annual inflation rate of 2.60%.


when hyperinflation hits its going to be worse than zimbabwe
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>>62705725
>when hyperinflation hits its going to be worse than zimbabwe
No. It won't.
Never said we didn't have inflation, but we will not have hyperinflation. The Zimbabwe or Wiemar fantasy you retards have will not happen and anyone with even a vague understanding of the financial system knows this.
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>>62705730
These losers hope we have hyperinflation so everyone will suffer like they do
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>>62705371
Buy clap the clap things clap you clap want clap clap
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>>62705730
>>62705734

LOL!!!!


Get this kid no nation in history has ever printed as much worthless money as the USA for such a poor cause (boomers). Zimbabwe and Weimar were nothing compared to what the USA has sown for itself. these countries also didn't even have fucked up demographics like the developed world does.

thats to say nothing of Japan which lets face it is already on the cusp of hyperinflation despite unprecedented stopgap measures. MMT tricks don't work anymore and everyone is realizing it.


i hope you get killed in a driveby shooting at the breadline. people as arrogant as you need to be bloody murdered mate, you're all fucking dickheads
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>>62705764
Europe will go down first. Hyperinflation is coming, the fuel scarcity will be the excuse, not the massive money printing.
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>>62705764
You have white incel syndrome
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>>62705789

exactly. they always find a convenient excuse that will cover for their terrible ideas and terrible social/fiscal policies.


looking so forward to seeing the catastrophe that is modern society getting 4-dimensionally soul raped and buck broken by the hyperinflation menace. the people who deserve the worst will get the worst. whereas people like me will be dancing in the streets, laughing at these dumb mother fuckers that just lost all their fake shit and are about to get raped.
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>>62705798

you have nigger affirmative action syndrome. i hope you didn't actually think that fake job was going to last


"oh lawdy but we niggas almost made it up out the povertAaaayy" LOL!!!!
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>>62705601
>because I know if I have gold coins nobody will fuck with me
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>>62705823

because gold is the most desired thing in the world. it is intrinsic value that enhances the value of whoever possess it. and everyone knows this deep in their putrid little malfunctioning hearts.

no gold, no glory. and every single man woman and child in the world knows it. fucking cunts
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>>62705764
>Zimbabwe and Weimar were nothing
Yes. You're right.
One was an irrelevant shithole African country and the other was a degenerate country in Europe pre-globalization.

No major currency will undergo hyperinflation to that extent anytime within the foreseeable future. The world is too interconnected and too much of a mishmash of people lending to each other and holding each others treasuries. Stop listening to private-discord-shilling influencer faggots.
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>>62705873

holy shit kid you are so fucking historically illiterate it's insane.


zimbabwe was not a "shithole African country" it was a hugely successful white colony that had a stronger currency than the USD in 1980.

>The Zimbabwean dollar (ZWD) was indeed stronger than the US dollar at the time of Zimbabwe's independence in 1980, with an official exchange rate of approximately 1 ZWD to 1.54 USD (or 1.47 USD).


dumb motherfucker. suck on that.


and Weimar was nowhere newr as degenerate as the perpetually infertile, street drug addicted, fake jobs Jew-riddled banana republic that is the USA. it never had a worse debt or finances problem and they weren't mentally retarded mutts either, they were the master race.


when hyperinflation hits the USA you are going to shit your fucking pants and die spontaneously. it will happen in a matter of months. you're dying in less than a year kid. say your fucking prayers
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>>62704586
>. When everybody can start their own basic materials robot factories, the competition will be fierce It will be hard to even break even
We already see what this is like in (big) tech.

Used to be able to count in autoscaling CPU. Soon, it may be a 6-12 month lead time to get significant CPU
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>>62705371
>What is the point of making 30% if inflation goes up 30%?
There isnt and that's the whole issue of the situation
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>>62705886

nobody will ever be able to start their own factories, this is pure pipe dream shit.

you can't even afford food at the supermarket anymore and the food is stale and rotten as fuck. everything is in terminal decline.
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buy art, art market hits new highs all the time, buy a giacometti next time one comes up for auction or whatever
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>>62705895
Works on my machine
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>>62703312
>your
I have at least 10 cans of food. I'll be the richest man on my block
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>>62704311
>the US is fucked on a global scale
The whole world is fucked, we have been pushed off the cliff. Nothing left to do but wait to hit the bottom.
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>>62705101
>Is that happening? No.
Agreed, they won't be leaving. Ever.
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>>62705670
Why are you just making things up? I hope you survive shtf because I want to rape you.
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>>62705949

i'm not making shit up dude this is going to happen to you if you debtmaxx hoping hyperinflation will save you. everything i wrote there has happened and will continue to happen to malicious borrowers. debtors prisons still exist in the USA and the creditors know your every thought.
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>>62703312
Unless... you bought and went all into silvet
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>>62706007

im going to laugh so hard when hyperinflation hits and all these dumb motherfucking houses and stocks are suddenly worth nothing...as they should have been
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>>62706016
you can live in a house u can't live in silver
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>>62703959
I actually regret not spending more on a house. It's almost paid off now but that 2.75% mortgage is basically free money since we've had real inflation of at least 20% every year.
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>>62706019

you can live in a tent.

but if the electricity goes out and the water utilities stop working your house is just a shack you can't take with you anywhere. it just rots and gets rodents, bugs, etc.

you wasted your entire life acquiring something that is just going to depreciate.

there's plenty of abandoned and empty houses out there if you ever needed a place to sleep. yo house finna become one of those
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>>62706016
I have reached some family. Pointed them to Mike Maloney's videos. But although I feel bad for some of my destitute family, I'm so looking forward to buying land and homes using God's money. Slavery might even make a legal comeback. But yes, my 401k was the first thing to go when I started stacking when silver was say 15 an ounce? God it has been too long. These sheisty bastards at the comex/fed need to default on their debt and get it over with already
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>>62706028

hell yeah man. you raise an excellent point about the relegalization of slavery. that is what is really touching some people's nerves in this thread. they know it's coming
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>>62703312
>2% hyperflation

You almost have to feel sorry for these polbrained incels but then again they are terrible people
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>>62706028
Based revenge will be ours. The only reason I bought tons of precious metals in 2020 was because /pmg/ promised revenge and I can tell our harvest is near. Normies and foids will get raped and destroyed by us.
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>>62706037
I’m looking forward to enslaving foids and normies like the good old days. The Jews were right, the goyim are subhuman. I have goyim fatigue.
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wrong. crude is at another top. trump is once again asking for peace talks. he realized he fucked up. from now until nov things will cool off, just like they did going into july 4th.
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>>62706126
My wife is Jewish, they really are great people despite the hate online. She also has been stacking since she was 8, what a catch!
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>>62706148
Ya they get a bad rep. Only goyim subhuman hate them. I met a cool rabbi at my LCS and we talked shit about the normie goyim together for a hour.
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>invest in land/real estate/assets not stocks
ummm companies own land and real estate and other assets, so if hyper inflation hits then company book assets moon and hence the stock moons, checkmate silvertards
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>>62706216
Problem with stocks is you can only cash them out for fiat currency that is worthless. A stock will be 100 billion but the cash in digital account is worthless. At least with land you can sell it for physical silver but very devalued.
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>>62706216

land and real estate is going to tank in hyperinflation.


i don't understand how young people don't realize that today's land and real estate prices are dramatically overvalued. historically, land and houses were never worth anywhere near this much.

the reason is because modern petrochemical based agriculture has greatly increased agricultural yields, which increases farmland value. but in hyperinflation, oil becomes unaffordable and farmland goes back to being basically worthless.

and modern houses are only worth so much because crime is so low and entitlement payments guarantee that boomers will never have a hard time securing a mortgage. that and utilities are still available in America. all this changes in hyperinflation. houses will to back to being affordable as they historically were. those who invested in them will be fucked
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>>62706362
real estate in most areas is going down (maybe not crashing) in real dollars. A lot of it is flat or down now since 2022 measured in currency, so considering the inflation that is taken place that's likely a 20-30% drop in value. I think real estate is going to be a hidden crash because it's just going to stay fairly flat for a long time.
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>>62705019
Looks like silver is very cheap. Thanks for the heads up, big guy.
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>>62703312
Hyperinflation is 1000% and so on. We are nowhere near hyperinflation, even Venezuela isn't.
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>>62703338
You're getting a cyber pandemic jewish block swan. Enjoy
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>>62703815
Whats all the fuss about the middle east then if that is true
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>>62706475

>Hyperinflation occurs when a country's inflation rate surpasses 50% each month,


already 8 percent there and that's if you believe the embellished economic data that is being put out.


USD has already lost 95 percent of its value since the 1920s so the slow gradual inflation has already done most of the work. it won't take long for a chain reaction to get started snd when it does the USD will quickly be worthless.
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>>62706496

another thing to add is that inflation in america is measured against *gdp*, which is bullshit since a huge fraction (37 percent) of gdp in the usa is just government (which itself is mainly deficit spending).


if they measured inflation and gdp honestly like they did 100 years ago, it would be a totally different picture. there's lies, there's damn lies and then there's the government. no one should ever count welfare checks and bureaucrat paychecks as "gdp"
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>>62704554
>Can you eat a stock portfolio? A tractor? An office building? Edibility is a very strange way to evaluate an asset.
Apparently yes
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2022/10/the-man-who-ate-metal-monsieur-mangetouts-strange-diet-722640
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if u dont own bio protocol, aster and ena ure out of game, as a meme u can ad pnut

100x coming

biotech, synth dolar and giga dex
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>>62703312
>But there is nowhere to go with your savings anymore.
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>>62706834
>get raped with fees buying and selling
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>>62706849

You want to trade it. Use GLD or miners for leverage. Minimal overhead where I am for buying selling physical.
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>>62703312
>peak timing to invest in local infrastructure and community
yuurp. You are fucked if all you did was fill your own pockets.
The connections built in your immediate locality is invaluable and is where the true resilience of any investor lies.
They can't tell you that because suddenly you might attempt to out-buddy them for our single most critical resource; human relationships.
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>>62706855
Explain please what do you mean using miners for leverage
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>>62703312
I live with my family again. We're all very well armed. Things will work out, one way or another.
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>>62703319
truke
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>>62706849
You can buy for near spot. As for selling, why would you trade real money for depreciating banker cum rags? Ain't going to be no selling when the dollar disintegrates. Gold isn't a shit coin you day trade for short term profits. It is the safe harbor where you sit out the coming shit storm. And good luck with your paper gold. Promises tend to get very breakable when the house is on fire.
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>>62703312
>But there is nowhere to go with your savings anymore
False
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>>62703815
That’s exactly why prices are so high. We wouldn’t sell at the cheapest price like we did in 2012 and basically give it away
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>>62703815
Once the world economy crumbles because of oil prices and shortages, no one will buy US oil and US goods+services. So US crashes too.

US needs the world.
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Man there are a lot of retards in here who somehow don’t realize the hyperinflation makes all your debt free or think that somehow in hyperinflation hard assets like land will become worth less money in dollar terms even when the dollar is hyper inflating??
Like what do you think hyperinflation even is hahaha really shows the amount of low level iq browns on this board
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>>62703944
no one is talking about a post-apocalyptic world. Only you.

In a true collapse of civilization where starvation becomes a concern (highly unlikely), we're all fucked regardless of what we invest in.
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>>62707000
Mm nah I thought about it. The US has more useful people still than the EU does. More resources too. But the key thing you're missing it thag not everything that happens to the European Union will happen to the rest of the world. No, this has been set up - long ago. You can't plan for everything but you can listen to your inner voice which says what's going to happen. Mine is telling me the US dollar will be replaced and resources will still stay strong and bountiful, albeit more expensive. But the EU? The EU is toast.
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>>62703815
The only thing america produce is niggers and faggotry dumbass mutt
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>>62707038
It produces happy and rich people (me)
And it produces miserable incels (you)

And the great thing is everyone decides which they want to be
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>>62703944
This is the midwit mind on sound bites.
You can’t eat cash ether you fucking room temperature IQ faggot



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