it's hilarious watching anons cope about XMR when the writing is on the wall.XMR can stay the absolute darling of poorfag druggies buying grams on darknet markets.if you're an elite protecting eight figures from confiscation you move in silence. ZEC is the institutional rich man's escape hatch with actual regulatory clearance and spot vehicles.90% of bitcoin spot volume on coinbase btw.
>>62729906Mazel tov! So when will you finally pull the rug on your scam coin, Chaim?
Can't buy ZEC in EU
>>62729951That's extremely antisemitic
>>62729906>XMR can stay the absolute darling of poorfag druggies buying grams on darknet markets.This. Monero fucking sucks. Their only claim to fame is being the chosen coin of literal drug dealers and criminals.Meanwhile zec arrived with the backing of billionaires and skyrocketed above xmr. It will take years for it to even get to where zec is now. You tell them this and they reflexively just talk about “muh you can’t buy anything with zec” again reinforcing their misguided idea. A privacy coin is extremely valuable when HELD. It allows you to hold wealth without anyone knowing. Meanwhile Monero is obsessed with spending it on useless trinkets and people literally criticize you for holding it kek. Fuck those retards
>>62729906>Literal FaG name> Says some faggot things
>>62729906>ZEC is the institutional rich man's escape hatchthing is, only transparant ZEC will be accepted in the surveillance systems. might as wel just have Bitcoin itself then. there's only one coin truly operating outside of the surveillance system. that's monero. having some ZEC is probably good but having some Monero is really really essential. then if you already have bitcoin you don't really need ZEC. shielded zec will just be outlawed for use. you can't buy a house with zec that hasn't been KYCED. yes, you can't buy a house with monero either. but that's not the market of the monero p2p economy.
>>62730532every ZEC has passed through the shielded pool. there is no transparent-only ZEC.
>>62729906If the turnstile hits and it turns out any amount of counterfeit ZEC got minted, it crashes the whole thing to 0.If dems get elected and outlaw privacy tokens (already happened in the EU) and ZEC can't shill itself an exemption, it goes to zero.Compliance games are a deal with the devil. You can run hard if you're the chosen winner, but the moment you get considered "too honest" it's over, because you sold out the only people that'd use you if you weren't astroturfed.No ZEC shill has ever justified why I should ignore the 20% mining tax, the fact the shielded pool can just be blocked by miners (has happened before), and the 4 year old infinite inflation sword of damocles. It's always just "number went up" and there were basically zero ZEC shills active below 300 so even the sentiment that /biz/ was full of ZEC baggies sitting on 10 grand of the stuff at $40 is just astroturf.If ZEC keeps going up that's whatever, I missed Moo Deng and Fartcoin too, but I was never given a reason to buy that bottom (and it had one pool with 65% of the hashrate back then) so I'm definitely not buying the top, even if it's got more price action in it, because ZEC gets shilled like a tech play, not a meme play, and te shills cannot justify the tech.
>>62729951It's literally on Coinbase and Kraken though
>>62730591>dev funddoesn't matter. everyone who objected bought zclassic. nobody cares that Ethereum did a rollback after DAO - eth classic is going to zero.
>>62730648The DAO rollback was over and done with while ETH was barely a year old. ZEC's 20% tax has just been permanent. It's gotten divvied up in different ways over the years, but it's not a "resolved" issue the way ETH's rollback was. And the mining pools being able to censor transactions is live now.
>>62729906Shalom goyim! (((ZionistCash))) I mean ZCash is the one true privacy coin! Just ignore monero! *Rubs hands*
>>62729906Thing is, ZEC is legendarily radioactive to serious privacy enthusiasts, isn't needed by regulated entities and will inevitably dump once this lack of actual demand is fully comprehended. Not to mention that the way it pumped like crazy out of nowhere is highly suggestive of market manipulation, not falling for another memecoin trap.
>>62730659>wow mining pools can mine empty Bitcoin blocks, news at 11
>>62729906>fag ID>talking down a top 15 coin and encouraging scamsYou put the Israeli in /biz/
>>62730575>every ZEC has passed through the shielded pool. there is no transparent-only ZECthat's false. and if you did shield your ZEC you will not be able to use that funds in surveillance networks anymore. they will halt you and ask you to do KYC.
>>62729906>buy ZIONIST CashKek
>>62730730No, Zcash pools can identify shielded transactions and programmatically deny them, it's not the same. And they have before, and the dev response was "We can't stop that, let's just hope there are more good actors than bad."
>>62729944Zcash isn't a rug pull for them, it's just repeated pnd's. The whole point is to have something seeming 'legitimate' so +95IQ normies can be milked more
>>62729906Monero pedos talk like reddit buttcoiners where they just sit around coping all day
>>62730922it was one mining pool that simply didn't bother to code their pool software properly. any Monero pool can refuse to mine a transaction unless you give them a view key out of band. it's a nothingburger.
>>62731021You mean the one that controls over 60% of the hashrate?
>>62731036no. and your pic is years out of date.
>>62731021It was an intentionally malicious pool. Even ZEC devs stated as much.>>62731036Nah he's talking about F2Pool, the second largest.>>62731036More like 1 year, that pic is from the first pump at the start of the year when Zcash was still routinely 60% controlled.
Why is it nobody on this board actually does any business?You're all just talking about gambling on the latest shitcoin all day every thread.
>>62731044it wasn't malicious, f2pool is just lazy. they were mining invalid bitcoin blocks as well.
>>62731051Way back, before ETH, there was business owner threads, reselling, etc. They just got crowded out once ERC-20 tokens became a thing.
>>62731055It feels like a really big sign that the economy is self destructing.
>>62731054I'd have to dig for the blogpost but F2Pool wasn't blocking *all* shielded at the time of the complaint, it was blocking most and allowing some, this would've been after Chun had already handed off the code (as your screenshot shows) so it would've been a known-and-implemented partial exclusion.
>>62731067iirc, it was specifically sapling pool. they just didn't upgrade their code (sapling and sprout have two different merkle trees)
>>62731041>It was only 61% in the past!!!>>62731044Oh so zec was being 51%ed (or 61%, apparently) AND also a different pool accounting for 20% had blocked its privacy features? Well at least 18% was still not malicious. Always stay positive!
>>62729906wdym 90% isnt it like 8% of bitcoin spot volume on coinbase?
ZEC was permanently compromised by the orchard exploit. it is quite literally impossible to prove that it is safe to use.
>>62729906Hey FaG!We get it, you like being a pawn to nigger Jews.
>>62729906I hate ZionistCash so fucking much, Im willing to stay poor and not buy this. I bought once and sold immediately after the mental anguish of holding this coin probably cost me a year of my life.
>>62729906zcash isnt untraceable and XMR is, if u ask anyone about privacy coins they say monero not zcash, have fun with your trannykike coin i guess
> ZEC: tribe owned and operated> "Bet on me and you'll win!"
