>be me>28>started wagecucking in risk management in the largest bank in turkiye>took out $6k in loans for paid military service, another $2k just to relocate to another city for this job>never came late, never left early, did overtime>start every task the literal second I get it, finish as soon as possible>literally beg coworkers to give me something to do, first job intensifies>all of my coworkers agree that there's so little work at the beginning>make my coworkers teach me the things they do, read risk management books whenever i'm free, which i am most of the time>immediate manager has never given me a single piece of real negative feedback>only time I ever got "warned" was because I ended a few emails with "I kindly request your explanation, sincerely">apparently I was supposed to write "I kindly request your valuable assistance regarding this matter, sincerely">corrected it instantly like a good little wagie>one random day, unit manager summons me to the department head's office>"yeah we don't really like your working style, we're letting you go">wtf.jpg>ask them what I did wrong or if I made a mistake>"no need to discuss it, you didn't embrace the job with four arms">try calling, texting, and emailing them later to get some actual closure>literally ghosted>meanwhile the unit manager who wasn't satisfied by my "working style" routinely screams "THE WORK YOU ALL DO IS FUCKING SHIT", whole office hears>tells a coworker to his face "I will shit on the work you do">casually does the turkish fuckyou gesture in the middle of meetings>publicly humiliates at least one person every single week>but apparently I'm the one ruining the "working style" because my email lacked the proper amount of bootlicking>tfw $8k in debt>ffw 5 months>only a handful of interviews, no offers>tfw i'm starting at a coffee shop nearby for minimum wage tomorrow should i send an anonymous email to hr about his behavior? how to bounce back from this?
>>62730040Anon finds out why third world countries don't have a functioning economy. Your mistake was thinking it was a meritocracy in Turkey, it's one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
>>62730047i don't think there's meritocracy but i wasn't expecting to be laid off for such a lame reason. all my close friends working there are shocked still. the managers even told me that it's their first time laying somebody off in the trial period and they were expecting so much more from me
>”you didn't embrace the job with four arms"Should’ve been Goromaxxing
>>62730054>they were expecting so much more from meLike what? Ask your colleagues explicitly as you are not a threat to them anymore.
>>62730040Report him to HR and Department of Labor for screaming >>meanwhile the unit manager who wasn't satisfied by my "working style" routinely screams "THE WORK YOU ALL DO IS FUCKING SHIT", whole office hearsIn front of witnesses. Corporate will then fire him, opening up a spot, and you can keep your job or get your job back.
Can't believe I read this pathetic wagie slop.
>>62730040>>62730054Holy fucking based ID and picture.Serioudly though, it's time for you to accept employers can terminate your employment for any reason whatsoever, provided they follow their contractual obligations such as minimum notice.
>>62730061i have no idea. one colleague straight up ghosted me. i had a call with another in which he said the manager didn't even mention my name, or the termination and that they were afraid to lose their job. a close friend of mine asked his manager(same department but another unit) and the guy admitted that termination without warning is completely fucked, that he would've given me time if he was my manager, that those managers lost their credibility but i was on the trial period so they can do whatever they want legally.if i message them about anything now i'll feel like a clingy exboyfriend. they didn't give me the professional courtesy of a warning or feedback. i just want revenge revenge honestly.
>>62730074turkish wagie slop nonetheless
the lesson everyone learns is to not to stand out, be it positively or negatively, especially in the beginning of a trial period. be as good/productive as you co-workers, maybe a little bit better but not too much since you dont want to stand out. your boss WILL feel threatened by overly eager young bloods, they are only humans after all. your worth is measured by how good you fit into the current environment/team. being obnoxious or overeager will only disrupt the current flow. thats how work for most employees is, if you dont like it you probably have to do your own thing.
>>62730082Blows my mind that people will have this mindset and do shit like be a fucking AP Clerk for 40 fucking years talking about how they’re going to retire some day
>>62730075me being on trial period made it effortless for them, just a one page document. otherwise i'm told that it's almost impossible to be fired from this bank
>>62730065i'm quite sure even though i mention names of the victim, they will not testify. and it's almost impossible to be fired from this bank because it's unionized heavilyi'm thinking of sending an anonymous email to hr about these offenses and that they're ongoing
>>62730040Dude all these upper guy such as managers all have mental issues and they don’t really have a way to cope with the stress, so they would randomly find you to be his personal punch bag, it is your only job in the do-nothing-office, if you do too well he get more mentally unstable with nobody he can release his anger. The reason to why he is so mental is another story btw.
>>62730055kek
>>62730105i always kept a distance to the manager from the first day because the office clown said that he was the best he's so funny and clever and understanding. i also thought that he was sort of clever and knew his job well but in a couple weeks his bipolar tendencies revealed themselves.
>>62730040Sorry anon, this is unfortunately too common across the third world. We complain about HR but without them most Americans would be at the mercy of their bosses too. Only thing you can do is not take it personal and keep trying.
I remember 15 years ago I worked as a busboy in a restaurant and one time the manager sat me down to praise me and told me I was doing great work, and 2 months later I was fired. They told me the same thing they told OP, that I wasn't pushing myself enough and picking up slack of the servers' work, like food running (which is not my responsibility at all). They never really made it clear that I should be doing that stuff either. I just dont think they liked me very much. A lot of jobs are just popularity contests. Gen Z boss and a mini!
>>62730040nigger, you are 28 and you still don't get it that productivity doesnt mean jackshit if no one in the office likes you? the bos has friends in the high place and probably knows the whole HR department well too so that is why he can do whatever the hell he wants like a king dumb cuck wagieTime to pull the nepotism card and ask cuckroaches you know to find you a job son
It's Turkey.
>>62730138i thought they liked me at least they didn't dislike me.and i played the nepotism card wherever i can but there are no cards left now.i think it's time i shank this fatfuck
>>62730110Not only in the office, i can confidently say the entire academic system is also having the same issues, your college is run by a bunch of mentally unwell top guy, they always find way to hold you hostage for very trivial things.
>>62730147time to up your social skill in the next job so you can have people to vouch for you when you are getting on the chopped block
>>62730135even though they may not make it clear, they can dislike you in ways you never even thought of is what i believe.
>>62730040I have a Turkish wife and many of her friends tell me horror stories like this. Don’t really have any advice but start your own business.
>>627301345 months of trying got me close to killing myself if anything
>>62730040Move to Malaysia or Germany.
>>62730153definitely, i took many lessons from this incident.
>>62730164i was in austria for my master's degree. couldn't even get an interview where illiterate pajeets get internships in top banks left and right.
>>62730172pajeets lie (look up izaat) a lot and western countries are way to trusting thats why they get away with it. cant even blame pajeets at this point. its not just companies but also the whole social welfare system here in europe.
>>62730092Now this is a big hint as to why you were fired. In places where firing permanent employees is extremely hard or costly, they may fire you to prevent that, if they don't think they will need your role forever. If there is even a small risk that the team does not need so many employees, the trial period workers get the axe before they become impossible to remove, even if others are the problem.I'd blame the unions and regulations for this, whichever is responsible for this situation. People's hands are forced on this one, I've ran businesses in situations like this in western europe and it is cancer.
>>62730186stinky poojeet
>>62730040Your mistake was being born in turkey
>>62730197there was a girl in my team who started a month after me. we had the same bachelors degree from the same university, she was at least 2 3 years younger than me though. both of us were in trial period but i got fired. it can also be that i'm a victim of corporate eeny meeny miny moe, which i think is more plausible than 'i don't like your working style'.
>>62730220Is she attractive? That helps her case a lot as well
>>62730220if you get beaten by a roastie in Tyrkey you must suck.
>>62730040I actually feel sorry for you. You felt hard for the education rat race and destroyed youe finances because of this in a system rigged against you. If you could start over, learn a trade a buy a business to a boomer. You will earn 4 times as much and you won't have to deal with corporate bullshit and AI inevitably replacing you
>>62730040Buy Avax, you will get a x8
>>62730235yes putting his savings on a shitcoin will solve all his issues.
>>62730082one time when i interviewing for jobs. I rolled in with my new BMW it was in 2018 and i just sold a top on bitcoin. and was collecting again. I felt so good. and the guy instantly felt treathened and said things like "You want to sit on my chair isn't it" and things like that lmao i was a 26 year old or something and this 45 year old wage cuck manager felt threatenedthe office people and atmosphere is absolutely shit. so glad bitcoin made me semi rich and i haven't worked for many years now.
>>62730040get out of europe / turkey by any means necessary. it's a dying continent filled with this kind of shit. come to america.
>>62730240fucking retard E.U is better work culture than turkiye and even America. maybe 5pct of americans have an actual comfortable life. where they aren't a corporate slave having to perform 40 years for 50 to 60 hours a week.
>>62730243EU wages currently suck fucking balls They barely cover housing costs.
>>62730040American work ethic only works in America. You have to be lazy like the rest of the slobs over there
>>62730240how? i don't have the means currently. i applied for some positions there but i don't think anybody will risk sponsoring me. also i lost my mom very recently and my dad is 70 years old. if something happens, god forbid, i can be there a day after at the earliest which this makes me think twice every time i apply abroad.still, i would really appreciate if you could tell me about where to look for opportunities and what i can do. i have econ bachelors in a top uni for econ in turkiye, econ masters in austria, have about 1.5 years sporadic experience in banking/research
>>62730235it's not 2021. noone's going to be your exit liquidity
>>62730257Americans are lazy and incompetent as fuck which is why CEOs just want to hire immigrants
>>62730237they're always like this for whatever fucking reason. office is shit but interestingly enough it felt okay. probably first time making decent money having decent prospects gave some sort of a euphoria. but i suspect after a couple years that fat fucking manager would try saying something to me, and i would be in prison afterwards. i will always think that god protected me, in a way.also, great to hear you're living well. it feels good to threaten people merely by your presence.
>>62730247lmao bro. yeah a western european makes 30k eur a year. but his house costs 4 times less than yours too. and it's from brick that stands for 500 years. not your cuck shed plywood and osb and shingles. not to mention. most countries in Europe hav extermely low or no property taxes. you are still paying 10k to 20k a year even if your mortgage is paid off. for your osb and plywood mcmansion of 1 million kek.The average person in Europe lives a better life than the average pperson in America. Merica only good if you are a super workcuck slave with a high IQ so you can make 300k a year but your living costs are still 250k a year in your cuck city. good fucking job. lmao. Western Europe is one of the best places in the world to live. T. Lived in many different countries the last 6years and realized E.U is amazing.
>>62730283My (now-wife) was a lawyer in Istanbul. we are leaving to E.U. Turkiye is a hellhole work culture. can't believe how your people treat eachother at the job site. Anyways you'll probably make it. don't worry. We'll maybe buy a house in Antalya later or something. or maybe not. the 20 year tax excemption for foreigners in Turkiye is interesting now.
>>62730259Anon you overinvested in your education, the job market is full of white collar wanna bes and it is brutal out there. If you invested all the money you poured into your education in buying some boomer's business at a multiple of 3 times EBITDA your live would already be set
>>62730234i didn't know. nobody close to me knew. if i knew i would start working immediately after my graduation. funnily enough, i interviewed with the same bank after i got my bachelors, got accepted, but also got accepted to masters in austria which got me drooling because i'm a blithering idiot and my family also thought studying abroad and finding a job there would be better. i was supposed to go out and save myself, but here we are everything turned to shit
>>62730284>30k eur a year.i live in Europe. Where you earn 30k+ euros your rent is 50%+ of your wage and that is if you share an appartment. The european model is broken, the only people that can survive the system as business owners
>>62730297how come you didn't manage to find a job in austria? that was your make-it step.
>>62730284>The average monthly rent for a one-bedroom apartment for a single person in Western Europe ranges widely from €700 to over €2,200, depending heavily on the specific country and citymost people in europe dont own property and rent out. we are also heavily taxed on these meager 30k because refugees need to be fed and housed. after everything is paid the average (western european) has less buying buyer (and rights) than the american. I say that as someone from germany WITH a property. If I had the opportunity I would leave this hell hole, there is no future for europe. No reason to cope my friend, america is not perfect but its still better than what we have.
>>62730040You didn't make enough small talk and ask about holidays enough
>casually does the turkish fuckyou gesture in the middle of meetings>publicly humiliates at least one person every single weekIts good to be king
>>62730298I lived in western Europe for 30 years and it was comfy as fuck. and all around me everyone had the same comfy as fuck life. I'm moving to eastern Europe now after travelling for 5~6 years years. i lived in Turkiye for 1.5 years too. (never worked there tho, just chillin on my bitcoin gains)
>>62730295yeah i know. i wish i knew back then. i don't care about what i would have owned, but at least my family wouldn't have thrown money away
>>62730243this is europoor cope. I am from europe and gave up my passport recently, enjoy infinity migrants and no air conditioning. Yes I make good money (250k) but I also had an amazing life when I started my career at $32k because you can do whatever the fuck you want whenever you want.>>62730259I am sorry about your mother anon. Without a relative in the US to sponsor you it will be very difficult. I recommend three paths I've seen:1) Green card lottery, one of my friends actually won this2) Work for global company then get transferred to US (one of my friends in Italy is an engineer at bloomberg and recently got transferred to NYC headquarters)3) Startups - I actually know a few turkish founders in the US and they regularly bring friends from home on a visaGood luck homie - you sound like a sensitive young autist and I know you will make it. Don't listen to the europoor cope.
>>62730297Yeah I feelcsorry for you anon. A good option for muslims are the gulf states but right now that option is not viable, but try to get a job in Saudi Arabia or the Emirates once the situation in Iran improves.Also I think in Azerbaiyan there is good money and turks are quite loved there
>>62730310yeah anon that was 30 years ago, now prices are like in america but not wages
>>62730243EU is quite a shithole as well. At least western europe. It really is a race to the bottom due to how the system is set up. Plenty of people work only part time or only 5-6 months a year to keep below the tax threshold, because everyone is showered with benefits under that, and pay basically zero income tax. Meanwhile people who have better ambition are taxed through the skull, (56% effective tax rate above 78k for any bonuses, vested options are taxed immediately as income as well, even if not sold at 56%, employers are taxed 22% BEFORE gross income as well. Effective tax rates in the highest bracket (above 78k) are over 60%. This is the Netherlands btw. Employees have infinite rights and can take "burnout" paid vacations and basically cannot be fired. All sounds great and all, but the result of this is that both high value workers and bhsinesses are leaving, because it's a shit place for both.
>>62730313>enjoy infinity migrants and no air conditioning.Cope, merica has more immigrants.> started my carreer at 32kyou are stuck iin a career and have 2 weeks of holiday a year. I've been travelling / hanging out for 5 years now., but yes im moving to eastern europe now to settlle, sitting at the beach got boring.> Don't listen to the europoor cope.I'm not poor at all and no one from my country is either. people in western europe don't know what poor is.
>>62730320I don't know how countries like that remain viable. Holy shit taxing none vested stock options is brutal
>>62730299i know right? i worked some gigs but nothing permanent. i applied everywhere to find an internship but i got no answer. knocked on a lot of doors, nothing. found some contacts, really good contacts for very very basic jobs, again nothing. i couldn't even do ubereats kind of delivery because of 'foreign employment laws' where another turkish friend of mine worked at the same company a year before. these applications are not one time thing btw i constantly applied to places. i even made CV's and coverletters impersonating a trans guy. didn't work.
>>62730320>EU is quite a shithole as well. At least western europe.from my experience, it's still better than 90pct of the world. > Plenty of people work only part time or only 5-6 months a year to keep below the tax thresholdoh wait. people actually can work 6 months a year and do more of things they actually want to do?? wew what a shithole bro you are so right. > Meanwhile people who have better ambition are taxed through the skull, (56% effective tax rate above 78k for any bonusesthat's why you go to Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, or other E.U territories that dont carry this tax burden. wow the E.U helps you again cause you can just go and you have rights to stay! no visa no work just go and rent an appartment! > This is the Netherlands btw.I know I'm from Limburg but Belgian. > but the result of this is that both high value workers and bhsinesses are leaving, because it's a shit place for both.but at the same time its still one of the best places in the world to live. But yes im leaving too. lmao. before capital gains try to eat my stash. but I was only able to collect my stash because of western europe. so. thanks man. im grateful. see you in eastern europe.
>>62730304In Europe you can have a great income if you buy a boomer business for 3 times EBITDA. The main issue in Europe is that the average millenial has grown up believing boomer delusion and they educated themselves for years to find out the rat race was a scam. If instead of spending thousands of euros in parties, drugs and education you spent your 20's saving up money in mommy's house until you could take a loan and buy a boomer business you could be earning something like 200k euros doing the bare minimum.The opportunity is there, the people are simply not so most of those businesses will just close while europeans keep whinning.Obviously the housing situation is fake and gay but that is another different story
>>62730337you are smart, buy real estate in Eastern Europe. Their productivity is outpacing western Europe by a lot and in the long run that means higher GDP per capita
>>62730313they start accepting green card applications next week i think. i will definitely do that. and i will try to find some founders, that's a great idea. maybe i can convince them. thank you for the support brother. god bless you
>>62730342i've basically been travelling since the 2021 bitcoin top. just a few months per year was I in western europe. I have only gotten more respect for western europe during this time. I've seen a lot. But yes there has to be reforms in the E.U but they are coming. they have to.
>>62730040Where do you live that Turkey seemed like a good idea? Why not just get a job in your home country? Why would you take out loans in order to have a job? Student loans is one thing but wtf dude. If some foreign engineering firm wanted to hire me they'd have to pay double the average wage in my field and pay for all my moving expenses. It would have to be them really wanting me not the other way around for me to go live in some foreign country away from all my friends and family for awhile.
>>62730337I'm not going to eastern europe, even top 1% salaries there are super low. It'd be a massive quality of life decrease. Also, a bunch of stuff just isn't available to buy there because there's no market for it (everyone's poor), it's just a worse life overall. I'm moving to the US personally. I want a good salary (already have an offer for around 200k), and want to be able to both keep my money and spend it on good stuff and services.The people incentivised to not work and heavily punishing the people who do system really is quite shit. I guess the freeloaders win, but it's not something I'd ever be comfortable living like, because they have no savings or safety net if the economy goes down the shitter. The demographic crisis is already going to make it impossible to continue pissing away all this money, and all of the economic productivity to support the system in a time of crisis is being driven away. It is a ticking time bomb
>>62730342people here are too young to get the joke brother
>>62730357Brother you haven't touched eastern Europe if you say this. Last summer I went to Gdansk and it is literally more modern, tidy and fun than anywhere I went to in Germany. Eastern Europe has changed a lot and in places like Bulgaria there is only a 10% tax on any income, it is a great place to build wealth if you are not a bitch
>>62730357>moving to a different country for 200kAre you retarded? You can buy a boomer business and earn twice as much 20 km from your house. The mind of a wagie is a mystery to me, they can't fanthom anything else than waging.I will give you a protip>200k where you are going is shitEmployees don't want wagies to prosper, you will only prosper if you own your business
>>62730357> already have an offer for around 200kokay but you'll be the corporate wagecuck who has to slave 60 hours a week and only gets 2 weeks off per year.so you'll retire with a lot of money maybe but then you'll be old and your life has passed. and you spent it in the office.That's not the life i want. but you do you bro.
>>62730370I am eastern european, so I know all about it. I can't get half the shit I buy here in their grocery stores (pre cut and peeled potatoes, vegetables, etc. Fresh blueberries and blackberries, sashimi grade fish, expensive hardware, server components, etc.) Half the shit my computer engineer friends need I buy here and fly over to them there because the only thing they can get there is the budget version, the low end hardware and some russian copycat brands that don't work or break in 2 weeks.
>>62730377i think he isn't quite up to date about what waging in corporate americah entails. but yeah. idk. must admit that I can't really say I have experience with it. but from my research. it's not something I want to experience.
>>62730377Not really how businesses work here. Boomer businesses are going bankrupt and shuttering left and right, and the ones that don't just stagnate and barely sustain their workers. Their tax burden is also obscene, and keeps going up every year.Also, we're getting 37% yearly unrealised capital gains tax here from 2028, so if I stay I'll be losing six figures yearly, regardless of what I do.
>>62730401I come from a broken shithole (Spain) and boomer businesses are getting sold here by 2-4 times EBITDA-CAPEX- working capital and you can easily earn 400k-1M euros per year for some of them. I doubt that your country is as disfunctional as this one
>>62730352i'm turkish man. we have mandatory military duty, it's either 6 months or 12 months and if you pay $6k you can do it for one month, which is a good career tradeoff and the firms let you do unpaid leave. i rented the cheapest furnished livable apartment with good transportation i could find in a short amount of time. with landlord deposit, first months rent, moving, buying some necessary items, utilities came to about $2k. i am cheap so believe me i spent the least i could. i was living under the street level.
>>62730406I follow a guy that sells boomer businesses in Spain. The last one a boomer sold>Electrical utility manteinance in the Pyrenesse>revenue 1M>EBITDA 400k>price of sale 800kyou can literally take a loan and lock in a wage that you can choose what goes in cash and what goes tax free to a unit linked to your name in the get go. If these opportunities exist in this shithole I don't want to imagine the sort of money you can make with these boomer businesses in Germany, Sweden or the Netherlands.Imaging waging at poverty in the states when you have this sort of economic opportunities in Europe due boomers massively retiring and the lack of buyers because wagies just want to wage
>>62730414This is where the boomer business was. A literal mountain paradise where housing is cheap as fuck and you get 400k euros (and growing) if you stop being a cuck and wanting an office job.On top of that those 400k euros can be placed in a unit linked to your name and never pay income taxes on them which is something a wagie could never do.If my dysfunctional shithole gives you these economic opportunities I fucking doubt that you won't find better ones in your comfy ultradeveloped firstie countries
>>62730414I almost went to spain but I didn't want to struggle with the rental market. I only have capital, no job. and i have to be able to find a rent and do empadronamiento within a month or two. wanted to go to Vigo. but pivoted. I lived at the south of spain for half a year that was nice.
>>62730414tell me where i can take a small loan of 800k and i will sell my soul to make that business work
kek, wagies are something else. They'll brag about their 6 figure salaries when the 6 figures is spent working 60 hours a week in a job that's high stress yet you simultaneously are doing nothing, just shuffling numbers and papers around, as managers and ceos humiliate you and piss on you
>>62730414Did you ever ask yourself why he sells for 800k. Do you think he's just a benevolent guy lmao
>>62730040>in turkiyeyou realize you can just move to America and become rich right?
>>62730467show me the ways anon, tell me how to go there
>>62730464He sells for that price for 3 reasons>Spain is a buyer's market. Boomers are all retiring at once and the business is too small for a private equity>the village is in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and young people want to live in cities>you probably have to work under shitty conditions when things break down like during snow storms or hot summersEither way it is literally 400k a year and you can put 300k tax free into a unit linked and compound that into 10M euros in 15 years and after that liquidate the business. If you are in your 20s and not a fucking pussy it would be a life changing opportunity but of course the average basedboy would rather wageslave for 50 years while barely affording rent
>>62730431Go to a bank and put the business as a collateral. Then do an LBO and boom you got that business. Of course you will have to be okay living in bum fucking nowhere and fixing electric stations in winter but it is life changing as fuck
>>62730475they are delusional. you can't just "move to the U.S.A. The easiest way is flying to mexico and doing an illegal border crossing, i guess.
>>62730479sounds good actually. i doubt it's that easy but makes sense. stressing over tough winters, stuff breaking is much better than stressing over dumb cunts. i just need some capital to finally start a proper life
>>62730409Oh well ok then I guess
>>62730085kekI'm at the point in my career where I'm managing people. I oversee three AP clerks who are exactly like this. All in their mid 50s, working an entry level job. Best paid one is making $60k annually. They're not bad people, but I cannot fathom the kind of NPC mindset it takes to be fine with showing up to a cubicle 40 hours per week for basically no money. CFO makes $2 mil base comp lol. They make more in one year than these people in 33 goddamn years. That's not even factoring in the equity they get paid in too
>>62730703yeah and to be a CFO you need an education of a cummulative 4M USD, being born jewish and previous work experience at an elite consultancy or bank. If you buy my random Spanish boomer business you start making 400k in your 20's and put that in a tax free unit link and retire in your 30's as a multimillionaire that makes more money siitting in the sofa than a CFO
>>62730723elite waging is literally cucking but to a lesser degree. in the US you can buy boomer businesses with 90% leverage, I can't fanthom the sort of cuck it takes to not take this path over any sort of waging
>>62730425Damn this looks so much like my city in Portugal: Valença.The only thing that gives it away is the mountains in the background that are diferent.
>>62730475you have trad girls that look like this walking around you cant suffer anon
>>62730047fpbpthe people arent there to make the company succeedtheyre there to get out the most for themselves and fuck each other overand OP stuck out like a thorn
>>62730703you oversee three AP clerks so you still have exactly the same life as them. you are working there at the same place together for 40 years.
>>62730040Say he disrespected Erdoğan XDDDDD
>>62730778The difference is that I was an AP clerk making $60k when I started my career 10 years ago. Not having to deal with other people's fuckups was nice, but I couldn't afford to live on that salary, so staying in my lane with my head down wasn't really an option for me.
>>62730756it wasn't like i was running around doing stuff all the time. i was at my corner minding my own business most of the time. tried my best being friendly and helping to not stuck out like a thorn as you said.now i remembered, one of the reasons he told me was that i brought my own pc. mind you, i was using my pc to help with work(no data breaches of course), to find material and use ai to do some light coding. i was also checking some apartments for rent because i was living in a shithole. on top of that, there was another guy who used his own pc all the time.
The turkish government makes you take out loans to be a zogbot for them?
>>62730725Can you explain how the us boomer business trick works?
>>62730807i actually sent a letter to the presidential communication center kekno response though
>>62730817okay? so you sat 10 years in the same cubicle and now you are the guy that overseas the cubicle guys. I fail to see how they are "npc" and you aren't. you still at the same company in the same office jail.
>>62730822you pay them to be a zogbot for not as long otherwise. normally you can choose either 6 or 12 months but if you pay, currently $9.5k, it's down to 1 month. the price is inflation adjusted yearly
>>62730846>unironic legalized bribes to avoid being conscripted to die in syria or whatever erdog is doingwhat a fantastically kiked system.
>>62730842I wasn't okay with making the same entry level wage my entire career. I think you're perhaps a bit too dense to be posting on a board about finance
>>62730850exactly that. if you're not deployed to shitholes you clean toilets with a toothbrush, collect cigarette butts, count the trees(or any random object the captain wants) or peel potatoes.
>>62730862I haven't worked for 5 years bro. I bought bitcoin from 2017 till 2020. I'm richer than you.
>>62730881This explains why you sound like a retard in a discussion about career development actually
>>62730827>boomer retires> finds no buyer> The US goverment allows you to take an SBA that allows you to take 90% leverage to buy a business>Select the business well>you kick start your career earning 1M USD per year with an investment of 100k instead of spending 3 times as much on student loansRoughly speaking that's the play. The US goverment literally gives you the most insane amount of leverage to keep the business afloat. There is an entire business community in the US based around this idea
>>62730914ok bro enjoy being the cubicle manager.
>>62730919by the way boomer businesses can be bought at a multiple between 2 and 5. Your ROI with 90% leverage is insane if you just buy a cash cow business with no growth. I can't phanthom spending 300k on a college degree when the US bankrolls you becoming a millionaire if you develop some basic skill on your own or trade school
>>62730040Move to Canada, europe and Turkey are finished
>>62730928yeah, but you still need to run the businessand usually the boomers kept it all together
>>62730935well the selection is important and you still need to be competent, but getting assets financed by the US goverment seems like a much better deal than spending that money on a paper made worthless by AI
>>62730040shouldve made friends with everyone rather than be a suck up
>>62730040you getting hired or fired has zero to do with you your performance or anything about that
>>62730040You main mistake was thinking that "Hard Work" means overworking yourself at the same job for stagnant pay. Next time, do the minimum amount of work required of you and put your extra energy into a second job.
