what the kanker are we gonna do in 2028? 36% unrealised gains tax ONLY on crypto.
>>62738643Lol what? You lowlanders cant be serious on that? No way thats legal, go to den hague or something. But well we germans might lose our tax free gains on coins held longer then 1 year soon.
>>62738643Reading about this as an American for the first time and yikes. Crypto investing is simply not viable / safe with this tax. Seems that the answer is either a house in Antwerp or finding something different to invest in.
>>62738643What crypto? Just tell them you don't own any crypto. What are they going to do, blockchain forensics? Top kek
>>62738717YesYou forget AI makes this much easier and for most people there's a paper trail because KYC exchanges will rat you out after the governments twist their balls.
>>62738643>36% unrealised gains taxthe thing is this isn't even enough money to pay for all the Morrocans and Algerians gang members' social benefits, it is a tiny droplet of water on a hot stone. This is done entirely for populist reasons to appease the goy cattle who have no investments whatsoever but resent everyone who is looking out for his future and took risks himself. It's the same thing in Germany with the greens and socialists pushing for crypto gain taxation. the tax will be just a few millions and will be neglegible but real estate boomers on faceberg love it not knowing that their gold will be next>>62738717every exchange operating in Europe will have to inform financial authorities about crypto gains because they will be regulated like banks. taxes will be substracted automatically from your gains just like stock/etf brokers do it already
Move your crypto out of the nation that's the whole point of crypto.
you just know some woman or tranny (also a woman) came up with this law
>>62738643Crypto will be fucking dead by 2028, so the Dutch government is doing them a huge favor by forcing them to sell their bags.Just like the CCP did a big favor for the chinks by forcing them to sell their crypto bags at the top of the bull run in April 2021.
>>62738643we become the cat
Haha insane, het is echt. Krijg even heel gauw de kanker joh. Wat een rare flikkers? Die crypto mietjes pakken we wel zeker! Nou prachtige begroting toch? Bleek mijn anus lekker
>>62738643Fucking commies. They won't get a dime from me. I'm done.
>>62738790very true. Leftist normies will think we are “taxing the rich” now not knowing theyre fucking over any young person trying to climb out of 4 to 5 digit hell and get themselves a 65m2 cuckshed>>62738911they’ll confiscate it and lock you up longer than any of our new scientist/doctor rapists lmao
In the 2027 Tax Plan presented on Budget Day (September 2026), the government confirmed that it is abandoning the tax on unrealized gains. Instead, they are drafting a traditional capital gains tax where you will only be taxed when you actually sell your assets. The new proposals for this sale-based system are expected to be presented in the spring of 2027, with the final overhaul still aiming for a 2028 rolloutwhat are we talking about here?
>>62738643Im moving. Fuck this shithole
>>62739105They only abandoned unrealised gains for stocks, it does not apply to crypto and bonds apparently, nor ETFs or ETPs. All of those will still be taxed yearly on unrealised gains
>>62739110The updated 2027 Tax Plan path: You will only pay tax when you sell your ETF units (realizing the capital gain), which is the standard mechanism in most other European countriesweird getting mixed signals here. every time I look up what you guys write its wrong. lol
Serves dutchsissies right for siding with the jews against uncle Adi desu.
>>62739128Not what any mainstream news outlet says. No clue where you're looking this up. The current leaks say only stocks get realized gains and all other assets like crypto, ETFs, commodities, etc. Get unrealised.
Haven't you heard of swaps, break the kyc chain with zcash or monero. You can buy direct via escrow also. Cake wallet is awesome. A little more expensive but way less than tax.
>>62738643So how does this work? You pay unrealised gains on the end of the year's balance or for the highest valutation during the year?
>>62739882January 1st is the snapshot date, you pay 37% of the increase from last January 1st
>>6273988231 december.
>>62739882Yes, I love having to sell assets to pay future taxes. Totally different than when I have to pay estimated future taxes to Uncle Sam (it isn't).
>>62738643I wonder who could be behind this scam.>>62738790Who may have convinced these crusty, tattooed retards to rise in anger only against their neighbours making 5k off crypto but not the million rapefugees costing THEM 5k a year?
>>62738643Fysieke wallet kopen. Klaar.Mijn muntjes zien ze niet.
>>62738643I don’t live in that shithole anymore. Writing was on the wall. They actually lie and say the unrealised gains tax is not coming, but the official website states this (see picrel). Best thing to do is buy (new) cars and offset the the value loss for your taxes.Translated text in pic: Taxing the increased valueOf, for example, shares and assetsThis is called a capital gain tax. If shares or assets decrease in value, a taxpayer can compensate for that with increases in value in later years.There will be a new 12% of the new price value of cars of businesses that buy them for their employees. So if you have an old 30k car that new was 50k you pay a yearly 12% on that 50k LOL. Idk how my countrymen are holding on.
>IM JUST GONNA MOVE>IM JUST NOT GONNA REPORT MY BUTTCOINSNo you're not, you're going to stay put and report your buttcoins like a good boy.It's not like any of it matters anyways, the past 10 years were the years to make it under an extremely favourable tax regime.
>>62738643Things like this make me think that Europe is destined to become a third world shitshole like south america. Socialist nonsense, stagnation, third worlders.Everyone worth their salt is leaving, the third world is moving in.
What's stopping you from sending your coins to a new non-KYCd address RIGHT NOW, and denying ownership of that address? They'd have no one to tax. If they bother you about "WHO DID YOU SEND YOUR CRYPTO TO?" just say someone stole it ("I carried my seedphrase on a piece of paper in my bag and I think it fell out while walking or something").Then when you want to have some money, just send whatever you want to spend back to your KYCd address, say you received it as a gift from anon. Or you did [work] online ("some guy offered me [BTC] if I showed my penor on webcam. That's how I got this.") Sell it immediately.This unrealized-CGT is impossible to properly enforce if the goys even slightly disobey.
>>62739986Jokes on you, I already got a place in the US and a job offer with a 2027 start.I started preparing for this last year when they first announced it.
YOU VILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY
>>62740164You have to have a signed agreement for gifts, and there's also a 37% gift tax.
>>62740238Man I can’t wait for the EU to fucking die allready so we can be rid of all this crazy nonsense.
>>62739966where is left to flee ? t.belgistani
>>62739907>>62739909>>62739911Spain tax is worse. You cant subtract realized losses from gains unless you sell the whole position and dont buy back for two months. Is called the 'two months rule'.
>>62740269malta 0€ tax.fuck the UE
>>62740246this isn't a E.U rule it's a netherlands rule.
>>62738643Every year i see this same faggot thread and you know what? They will pussy out at the last moment like they do every fucking time.
>>62740447But at least, public services are overflown with rapefugees and nogs, education is at an all-time-low with the OECD's worst tier and 35 kids per class, and streets have never been less safe thanks to our cultural enrichment.
>Dutch "wealth" tax>It starts over 57 000EUR net worth BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, so much for taxing your billionaires. All the rhetoric about it being against billionaires and just falls squarely on workers lmfao
>>62740796Billionaires will switch to accumulating funds and end up paying less tax than before. Meanwhile poors with five figure or smaller portfolios will drown in tax and become part of the permanent underclass.
>>62740899this is a good thing
>>62738782Hire Pajeet to do KYC for you for $5.
>>62740516If the EU goes so do these rules this cannot go on any longer we are allready taxed at 70% if all is said and done. Ben zo ziek van deze shit
>>62741157no, these rules are Netherlands rules. are you fucking retarded.
>>62741270Do you understand when the EU goes so does the euro and that will change things very drastically in every arm of the government and the laws they write ?
>>62741366> E.U goes> so does the euro.You are a very dumb retard. E.U is amazing I don't want to be stuck in 100square km. instead of complaing about the E.U you can use it to your advantage and move with your millions to eastern europe where the taxes are low. they can't even deny you as you have rights to stay because of the E.U.
>>62741379> Move where you will be used as meat bait for drones.
>>62741379Bek houden jij homo
>>62741408poorfag laag IQ.
>>62740796They're gonna lower that threshhold to 30k. It's so fucking over. At least my crypto is non KYC.
>>62741423>At least my crypto is non KYC.also means you cant spend it on anything significant like a house or a car.
>>62741423your options are giftcards, gold , silver and xmrbazaar. that's about it. please note that giftcards wont stay an option. so better use some already.
>>62741431Just pocket change in my case. Most is in ETF's.
>>62741418Invest in chainlink!
>>62741442small amounts of non kyc coins is good.
>>6273905965m2 is enough. I thought you guys had a crazy housing crisis?
>>62738643I lost my virginity at 21 in the Amsterdam red light district and will always be thankful. It was actually a blonde dutch girl which probably are rare in there these days.
>>62738643The people in this country are crazy and will probably say this is a good thing. I am so tired bros...
>>62741379Yeah because before the EU it was impossible to move or travel. Thank you so much eu overlords for all this freedom.
>forced to sell your shit to pay the taxes>your shit fucking giga ultra nigger moons>government loses on potential tax gainsSo what kind of retard thought this was a good idea?I would just sell everything out of spite right now so they won't get a single dime out of me.
>>62741736>I would just sell everythingthat's the only logical actionotherwise you are exposed to an unpayable tax bill if your memecoin moons 600% then crashes 99% across a tax year
>>62741629>to move or travelmoving without the E.U rights is a lot harder and shittier. Yes I have more freedom now because of the E.U. I have rights to reside in any of the E.U territories. which is 5 square kilometers big. before that, you had no rights, had to beg to go somewhere else and in many cases, your temporary residence would not be extended and citizenship would not be granted. maybe you can be happy in your 60k square kilometers of space in the netherlands but im not. enjoy your mini jail.
>>62741746I don't think this'll go through. Surely they can't be THIS retarded?
>>62741752>which is 5 square kilometers big.5 million square kilometers.> travelok buddy.
>>62741752> I have more freedom now because of the E.UBS litterly nobody ever I know who lived before this shit union (me included) have said that
>>62741850you and everybody you know where poorfags who never even thought about moving abroad.
>>62741918Actually own a home in french the EU is still a cancer that is dieing though h