>mfw just found out about European tax ratesEuropoors, I'm so sorry...
its not all badamericans have higher property taxes which are relatively low hereit all balances out
>>62739307Its not even remotely balanced out.
Fuck europoors
>>62739272I svffer under 38% capital gains tax here in poorway. Still though, could be worse. At least the cold repels nogs. I'd rather have 90% tax than deal with them and school shootings and the other awful shit mutts have to deal with on a daily basis.
Just dont make any money and you dont have to pay taxes
>>62739272>European tax rates
>>62739346bro I live up north, the cold does not keep them away they will come
I live in a town with less than 500 people, I have to use starlink, and in the last few years a few have arrived. It's literally over. There won't be a place left.
At least Europeans don't have to deal with niggers randomly killing them on the subway
>>62739324thats true, the US is a far bigger shitholeand browner than Europebasically a second Brazil at this point
>>62739405Dont deflect. Also western europe is heading in that direction.
>>62739416deflect what?you are comparing the US and Europeand so am Ido you even know what words mean, you mexican?
>>62739405Also germanyHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAThe real deficit is gonna be more then 200 billion this year. Its just budget whitening with "special assets".The real deficit is gonna be 4% at least.
>>62739421Deflect from the TAX topic with other topics is what you are doing.
>>62739424and next look up Germanys debt to gdpits half of the US
>>62739428like I dont know youre OP on a different VPNyou malding mexican living in a failing shithole
>>62739429Except its has trillions of hidden debt of non declared pensionrückständen.Also this was about TAXES not the debt which nobody cares about as much.
>>62739432>he keeps deflecting now by ad hominem
>>62739436debt and deficit are taxes, read Milton Friedmanyou wouldnt know that, because youre a third world mexicanand the US runs a third world government
>>62739438I already fucked up your little thread beyond comprehension, you little mexicanshall I go on comparing Europe to your shithole?
>>62739440>debt and deficit are taxes, read Milton FriedmanNo its not (taxes are clearly defined) and im not reading an outdated book by a jew and take every analogy there at face value.Schwuchtel
>>62739442>he keeps deflecting from the TAX issueWas willste?
>>62739443>mexican country runs mexican government deficits and thinks it doesnt matterlike pottery
>>62739445>we can run 40 trillion of debt and eficits and it doesnt matter!muahahaguess why your bonds are imploding
>>62739449>>62739455So are european bonds tho, and as i already told you germany has trillions in Pensionsrückständen
>>62739307this will look like Pakistan by 2040
>>62739272I lived in Ireland for awhile>20% income tax on first 35k€>40% on everything above>Plus PRSI and USC>Annual motor tax>Annual TV tax>Property taxes>18% VATIt was genuinely fucked and their social services sucked ass. I’d rather have private healthcare than deal with that shit again.
>>62739272Europeans can trade between BTC>stablecoins forever and not pay taxes until they cash out into fiat. Burgers have to pay taxes on every trade so they're forced to baghold through every bear market, lmao
>>62739457stop throwing words around you dont understand, Pancho.Germany pays way less in interest than the USinfact, even Italy and Greece pay less in interest than the USthis entire conversation makes you look like a fool
>>62739272Ilinois cope thread?
>>62739566Shhhh, its cold out here with roaming muslims and no gas from putin! ;)
>>62739424>Its just budget whitening with "special assets".I'm sure no other country would ever do that, right?
>>62739307>equating a 0.5-2 percent tax rate depending on state to having 50% of your income taken by the governemntYou cannot be that stupid. Has to be bait.
>>62739618hu?americans pay thousands in property taxes every earand no, we dont pay 50% of our income in taxesthats utter nonsense
While yes its bad its not that much better in muttistan at least in parts of it, its not impossible to pay 30%+ taxes there and thats the average rate in europoor, the thing is 30% of 200k isnt that bad but 30% on 40k is poor
>>62739272I do not pay taxes. I get free money and invest it. Meanwhile I enjoy the dankest kush and got bitches sucking deez nuts.Even the anarch ain't got shit on me. Fuck your libtard kikes like Von Mises, we got Stirner and Jünger.
I don't see how this is worth to be discussed or even fought over, it's plainly true that you get taxed into oblivion here. Dunno if it's the case in all eu countries but I get tax rates up to 45% in Austria. I'd be willing to accept this as the price for a functional infrastructure, public schools and hospitals and clean streets etc. Thing is, you can see it slowly fall apart. A large welfare state only works in a high trust society and taking in all these arabs - who could've known! - have sub 40% emplyoment rates are sucking the well dry whilst contributing nothing to society. We're waking up to that but it's too little too late. Give them a a cheap place to live and money enough for food and they'll live with 3-4 children who can't speak german despite in the 3rd fucking generation of migrants in their 38 m2 flat.You might complain about beaners but at least they can largely be integrated into western society. Arabs are niggerish in that regard, take all the gibs, provide nothing.
>>62739727nice try, you falseflegging american sack of shitall your cities are utter shitholes
>>62739730What did you expect? Ilionis crypto tax, INSTANT UROPE BAAAAD SAAAR....
>>62739272You don't need wealth. The state provide everything necessary using the tax collected.
>>62739730What's with Malmö?
>>62739931Niggers and Arabs
>live off LTCG>make $50K/yr and pay $0 tax
Now look at the salaries
>>62739272yes BUT
>>62739272unronically, what's the best way to dodge taxes when all my fucking savings are in crypto? the only reason I keep saving is because I'm afraid the IRS will come and DRILL my ass over it
>>62740017The job things happen in Europe too, if you work for a private company your boss will fire you the moment you stop being useful
>>62740084Scale out slowly?
>>62740099but still there are better worker protection laws installed in europe.I got fired in february after 15 years. Got half a year payed leave plus a 50k compensation.
>>62739307I pay 4k of property taxes on my house, that nowhere near what you euros pay in regular taxes lol
>>62740295You forget that 4k is like 10% of their annual salary
>>62739730San Diego goated
>>62740295Because you look at it nominalProperty taxes are in the hundreds there even if the property is worth millions, its not based on worth of the real estate at least around here but purely on land worth
Yeah, European taxes like Germany's and Croatia's 0% tax on capital gains
>>62739272I pay 37,5% on every single profit made on stocks, efts and funds…
>>62739346What the fuck are you talking about? Norway is flooded with Africans and Arabs in every tiny city and village
>>62739307There are states without property tax, and even in the ones with property tax, rents are lower than in many european cities.
>>62740017>have a kid and your job status is protected for 2 years>companies are forced to find alternative position due to a person getting disabled>court forces employer to spend months to find alternative employment instead of just firing a shitty workerkek this is why europe is cooked, absolutely zero logical sense to support their nanny state businesses and exactly why the world invests in US companies.
>>62740295When you account for your health insurance costs, education costs, etc it evens out. I dont understand why either side is pretending to be superior. Wagies in both systems are getting equally fucked, only in slightly different ways
>>62740476>Germany>0% capital gains taxU whot mait?more like 0% on the first thousand bucks.After that you pay 25% capital gains tax + 5,5% "Soli" (a special tax in solidarity to help and rebuild the socialist paradise that we inherited) of the original 25% capital gains tax.So in reality we pay 26,375% taxes on stuff like dividends, interest and profit from selling stocks.And don't get me started on the church tax that goes on top of it all (if you are stupid enough to still be a member of the church).But we don't pay taxes on profits made with gold (if we hold it for at least 1 year)
>>62740506You can hold 1 year for 0 capital gains tax. It's super easy.
>>62740590yes, but only for gold.the same rule applied to stocks but only until 01.01.2009. Everything bought after that date and the tax man will demand his fair share in return for all the risks he has taken. The state will take good care of you that you will not become too wealthy.
Luckily in Germany you can sell crypto for 0% tax if you held a year. But most European countries have heavy taxes.
>>62739565This sounds like heaven.>t. Dutchfag >21% VAT>top tax bracket is 49.5%, starts at €78k
Should I full port micron before close
>>62740646Don't you guys also have an unrealized capital gains tax of 36% now?
>>62740672It hasn't passed the senate yet, but they're working on it
>>62740739Germany should accept Dutch refugees for this reason. But it won't, it only accepts Arabs and Africans.
>>62740623Croatia and Czechia has the same 0% rule for crypto/stocks, just go there for 183 days.
>>62740760What a retarded thing to say. EU citizenship gives you the same rights in any EU country as their own citizens. So they are free to move
>>62740764I'm sure they will find a way to tax you regardless.
>>62740739how realistic is it though? Taxing something you don't have yet is one step to far, I hope. But then again>“A dog is more likely to pass up a sausage than a social democrat is to pass up other people’s money.”Can you get child support if you got a pair of working testicles?
>>62740782They just announced today they want to make stocks and bonds realised but make crypto unrealised until 2030
>>6274081936% on unrealized gains per year is North Korea or USSR level of economic mismanagement. The entire asset class will just go to 0 and become a nonviable market for any means for all people under that law.
>>62739307In the US, public sector spending is 34% of GDP, while the deficit is 6% of GDP. In many European countries, public sector spending is around 45-55% of GDP. Some of those European countries run large deficits, some do not.Of course, in America there are some additional costs, such as private health insurance, which effectively function as an employer-side and/or employee-side payroll tax yet does not count as public sector spending.
