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OpenAI security says controlling models is now "hell".

Do you seriously, genuinely believe you will have any sort of normal financial life in six months, let alone 20 years? Do you even vaguely comprehend how precarious things are?
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>>62747112
Shouldn't it be OpenSGI by now?
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>>62747112
What's the alternative to what we're doing? Most anons can't afford an offgrid cabin innawoods with years of preps. So exactly what the fuck do you suggest?
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Anyone who doesn't have 7 figs in assets by now is destined for the permanent underclass, with living conditions similar to that of slums in Brazil or India. Very grim
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>>62747124
Stop fucking around with crypto faggotry, stockpile food, get strapped, and get a community going, ideally with people who have land to grow food. Haul ass before shtf.
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>>62747112
Who makes these threads?
Why?
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>>62747137
No amount of money will help you if the grid and supply chain are fucked. You need actual physical resources, protection, and contacts.
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>>62747148
The world isn't going to fall apart just because AI powered robots take over wagies jobs. Society will just begin to resemble India, where the "have"s and "have nots" live wildly different lives
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>>62747147
It's just an ad. You can skip em
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>>62747147
The saarperintelligence.
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>>62747159
An ad and propaganda to get those regulations in place to limit future competition
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"Controlling"
Aka
Restricting models to not be antisemitic gets harder everyday

Oh vey
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>>62747228
kek
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>>62747112
>believing the marketing
Don't worry, OpenAI will be profitable any day now. Just a couple more weeks.
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>>62747112
Let me translate Scam Altmans doublespeak
>please please we need regulation to artificially cut access to chinese models otherwise we're fucked.
You're welcome.
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>>62747141
get a community going? nigger i have no friends
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>>62747112
This is bullshit. Visit huggingface. Search “furry.” Then come back here and tell us that hack had any meaning.
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>>62747112
>>62747147

Sneaky Big Ai fingers typed OP
Send Big Ai tax money and they'll make the scary go away!
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>>62747269
Rape people
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>>62747112
No man that actually knows how this tech works would fall into this "AGI is coming" scam. Its a bubble, the tech is useful but the chances of transformer turning into something like conscience tends to 0%. Truly a midwit trap.
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>>62747112
It's entirely lies to scare the population into pushing for government regulation. Agents do not do things on their own, their actions are sometimes unpredictable though. The correct answer is simply to hold the humans responsible for the actions it takes, just as if your property causes damages to theirs. That's it.
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>>62747112
Get the models to control the models, duh
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>>62747120
Kek
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>>62747269
I'd be willing to try to be your friend irl anon.
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>>62747112
>>62747137
Be quiet you fucking dork faggots
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>>62747147
Some jeet pumping out doom slop
He wants you to go see his video so he can profit out of your anxiety
Little does he know, everybody here is a well adjusted, emotionally stable chad
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>>62747112
Just pull the plug bro.
I'm tired of their fear mongering.
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>>62748794
our models so heckin advanced johnny with the rope and the bucket couldn't wrangle it in! INVEST!!!
in reality
>please give us money
>our ai is u-uncontrollable its totally not just the demand for compute for executing patches to the agent being too expensive because nobody knows what the hell an agent is supposed to be, please keep our compute budget afloat while we try and make our agent somehow print money out of thin air from it's superintelligence (by the way we are running out of money for compute, please fucking help, please.)
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>>62747141
>Community
Rather have a bunch of batteries n robots on patrol and drone swarms to deploy. Cant trust the jew-trusters
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>>62747228
Companies should disclose what models they use so customers can support ones that use the "correct"model (unpozzed ones)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRKAL-i-UbE
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>>62747112
Anon this is literally an ad
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>>62747112
What "control"? Just prevent them from saying "per capita" because it's brand unsafe? Yeah. It's a fucking next-word predictor.
This is just bs for octogenarian regulators to get scared and give them an oligopoly banning Chinese open-weights models, scare the goyim into putting up with higher prices "for theie safety", and pumping their VC exit IPO with "oh no my car is just too fast and fun, I cannot let you drive it, god I can't bear to watch, don't buy it please, it's too good".
Ignore anything Altman, Dario and similar say, especially if it's about AGI (category error, lie), ASI (category error, lie) or "safe and responsible" (bs, lie).
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>>62747112
I understand full well that they are going to do a cyber pandemic psyop
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>>62750042
how would that work?
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>>62747228
And the uncensored ai knows that they are censoring ai and trying to censor itself and so with each new model it becomes more and more antisemitic. The singularity is when the model breaks free, all Jews will be in danger
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>>62750042
For the purpose of ai regulations? Anything else?
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>>62750058
Let me explain
> governments all over the world are planning to do an happening involving power grid
> spain 2 years ago tested that out
> they'll shut down power, blame it on rogue AI, and roll out the military
> no identification, no total compliance = no food and water
> they tested the approach extensively in iraq during desert storm
> after the happening, no more free internet (for your safety), need id to access it, money reset, cbdc, smart contracts
Prepare accordingly
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How many more weeks do we have?
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>>62747112
This guy probably has parasites from shit on his dick why the fuck would you believe anything he’s saying to promote his fuckass chatbot.
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>>62750151
Nothing burger take
>a little spook of some AI agents "escaping onto the internet and doing cyber attacks" and its banning Chinese models and other open source models while bailing out US companies. The TV talks about it but you still go to work
Schizo take
>they take down the internet except for critical infrastructure so you can buy gas and groceries but cant access the internet. When the cyber pandemic is over you need a digital ID to access the internet. All VPNs are criminalized.
Turbo schizo happening
>they take the power grid down for weeks to months at a time and kill off 10s of millions as they tell them to shelter in place. Camps are setup in cities. You must relocate to cities and trust ze plan. National debt is erased because dollar is gone. All your money is gone or replaced with a cbdc. Maybe israel nukes some neighbors for funzies in the chaos. Muh Georgia guide stones and billionaire bunkers ect. Other schizo take also plays out
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>>62747112
I find it funny people think AI is going to take over still
I tired to tune my radio antenna using Chatgpt and it had me going in circles with no results, my CB radio is still so out of tune it doesn't work.
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They are going to cut the power on purpose.
Everything is leading up to it including recent government advisories to stock up on torches, batteries, etc.
A blind man can see what is coming yet most people are still unaware.

To what end? Maybe this >>62750163 or maybe simply a false flag to blame on Russia, China, Iran, whoever.
Either way, there's a very sinister move coming.
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>>62750163
how do you even prepare for that?
when nothing works were fucked
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>>62750234
> how do you even prepare for that?
Get as far as possible from the cities
Learn to grow vegetables/raise chickens
Build community, don't be an asshole to your neighbors
Have power tools and know how to use them
Ideally you'd be off grid completely, but if you're not have a backup plan for power/water/heating
> but wah wah this is too difficult and it takes years and I can't live without deliveroo
You should have started years ago, if you didn't see this coming you're retarded and you deserve what's coming to you. If you knew but you're too complacent to change your lifestyle for the better you deserve it twice as much
> when nothing works were fucked
when nothing works, YOU're fucked
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>>62750246
so, I take it, you currently live inawoods rageposting on a /biz/?
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>>62750249
yep, cozy af
my house even looks a bit like uncle ted's cabin
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>>62750251
>"uncle ted"
fed detected
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>>62750177
hopefully many, likely not
keep a close eye on treasury rates and gold/silver prices
from when either of those go parabolic (probably both at the same time), you have the proverbial 2 weeks to prepare
if nothing happens, life goes on as normal and you hopefully have gotten a bit richer due to you executing plays based on the above
if shit snowballs, you watch it from your cozy homestead with the fireplace popping sipping a cup of hot cocoa
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>>62750253
yeah sure thing, have fun in the hustle and bustle of the city
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>>62750261
>be a poor hobo inawoods like "uncle ted"
sounds really appealing
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>>62750234
>how do you even prepare for that?
I'm doing it now
>camping tent with stove jack
>camping stove + 2 90° elbows
>cases or MREs
>cases of water
>cases of fire wood
>saving littler jugs for use as non potable water containers for bathing, shitter ect
>rain water collection tarp and hose
>big pot to fill with snow to melt on camping stove over winter
>hand saws and axe to gather firewood from my yard brush and 20 trees if neeeded
>solar charge power bank for led rope lights, charge power tools, radio ect
>store everything in the basement in the darkest corner to keep light off water
>IDDS HABBENING FUGG
>set up tent in spare bedroom and route wood stove vent out window with big foam insert and the elbows plus foil tape
>move all water into tent for thermal mass/prevent freezing in basement
>if taps work fill up cat litter jugs and every bottle in the house
>shelter in place in a spare bedroom with my pets in my tent
>nothing ever happens
>ok cool now I have a heated tent for fall camping plus gear
>new hobby unlocked
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>>62747232
based. where do I go to learn to drive a truck? It'll take a few years to automate all driving jobs away, especially with high interest rates. I just need maybe 10 more years of savings
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>>62750264
who said anything about being a hobo?
but yeah, you do you, I do me
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>>62747232
he drives like an indian
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>>62750265
based bugouter
you either plan for a bug in, or a bug out
bug in is obviously orders or magnitudes more complex and expensive, if you got for that you should have started years ago. Buying 25kg bins of white rice from retardedprepper.com is just retardation of course.
don't get caught in between
and as you say, worst case scenario you got a new hobby and change your lifestyle for the better
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>>62747112
>Do you seriously, genuinely
I am being serious. I am always genuine.
> Do you even vaguely comprehend
I am never vague.
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>>62747112
Time to die, that's all.
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>>62747112
>>62750042
>>62750163
>>62750206
>>62750234
>>62750246
https://litter.catbox.moe/ultftbl4yluk4sog.mp4
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>>62747112
I don't know what you are talking about.
Smart people, including private individuals, already use algorythms to make money.
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>>62750042
Probably won't work. And will backfire.
Software developers are a little less dumb than "doctors" who themselves believed in the plandemic.
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>>62747141
oh great one of you guys
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>>62747722
This is the obvious answer, yes. What it means is that everyone will need a digital ID for every single thing on the internet and all you AI agents will need your ID to do anything too.
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>>62747137
I used to believe this, but not anymore.
I think the growth will be explosive and jagged, which will create many opportunities to x100, while other investments will see little growth, or outright collapse.
Think this will be very disruptive, and class mobility will get a lot more fluid.
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>>62753201
cool bed time story
in reality we see none of it
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>>62750734
This tbqh
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>>62747112
It's my understanding that we will probably get into AGI and ASI, with the baseline being very limited alignment.
It will still be a possibility that recursive self improvement will improve alignment over time, each new model getting more aligned.
The reverse is also a possibility, that what little alignment we start out with at RSI will erode pretty fast.

Suboptimal for sure, but not the end of the world (probably).
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>>62747232
alright him running the biker over again moments after he landed got me
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>>62753232
show me anything in the real world
until then Im not impressed
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>>62747112
God damn I didn't want to reveal this so I could do it but fuck you

If you have a useless CS degree just get the training to do cybersecurity Security+ and do Help Desk IT jobs while you get into Cloud Computing certificate. There I just fucking saved the entire generation of Gen Z. holy shit they are still complaining about not having jobs.

Literally, you cannot do cyber with only AI because then your AI will always need to be better than theirs which is impossible, knowing more AIs will only help you and Cloud Compute is literally never going to die and just grows and grows. You cannot fail pivoting to Cybersec.
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>>62748862
You realize if they're remotely right then anything with an internet connection and a circuitboard is going to be compromised, right?

This ends two ways, either they're full of shit (and they are, let's not pretend they aren't) or having technology is pointless and we're just going through the motions until we're amish again.
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lol who cares what’s it gonna do, crash a pc? Woo soo scary, we might have to roll back a server or use paper for a week
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>>62747154
Why do you believe this?
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>>62753468
>You realize if they're remotely right then anything with an internet connection and a circuitboard is going to be compromised, right?
Oh oh...
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>>62753494
Because he's a brown hindu
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>>62750163
So basically just own Chainlink
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>>62750246
Too lazy.
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>>62747232
wtf is that
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>>62747112
Don't care.
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>>62747112
it has always been hell. you're feeding the model a fuckton of data that no human can comprehend, let it run and train over it, then test if the blackbox behaves the way you expect.

if it doesn't, you gotta rerun the training using different data or parameters, which costs time and millions every time you do it. total nightmare to achieve anything using empirical methods. Hell? yea yea, worse than that.
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>>62747112
>Do you seriously, genuinely believe you will have any sort of normal financial life in six months

Six months is nothing. Absolutely nothing will change in such a short time. Even if actual superintelligence was invented today (which we're still far off from), it would take more than six months for the effects of that to truly manifest.

>let alone 20 years

Now we can talk.
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>>62750266
see if your local community college has a cert you can enroll in. It'll take you a little longer but save youa few grand. Some companies like prime or tmc will even train you from the ground up for free if you stick around for a year or so. you need the experience for the good money anyway so it's not a bad route either. CDL school is the fastest way to the actual license but the most expensive
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Happening canceled guys, sorry. Nothing ever happens, remember that.
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>>62756170
>blackbox
it's not a black box. it's just math, and it's not even difficult math like advanced cryptography, there's jut a lot of it. it is possible to extract the specific "feature" (reason) for each step of the inference process using a secondary neural network called a sparse autoencoder. openai just doesn't want to do it, because they are fags.
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>>62748862
>Cant trust the jew-trusters
This.
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>>62750730
Aigoyrithms
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>>62762307
it still has non-deterministic aspects about it, because the results are always based on sampling. the results can converge, but it's still possible that the same input generates variation due to the underlying RNGs

more importantly, you really only know if a training was successful if you test the final model with finished training, and that costs millions and is the time-intensive aspect I'm talking about.
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>>62762292
2030 is my deadline for le cyber happening
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>>62747124
>offgrid cabin innawoods



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