So OAI oneshots 20% of outstanding math problems. Nerds on xitter call for imminent breach of ecdsa cryptography which, by extension, means all coins (or at least, all the coins that matter) break. This is clearly bullshit and highly unlikely. And yet, this still ruins all coins, forever. It doesn't matter that this specific breakthrough didn't destroy cryptography. All that matters is that AI is now producing, at some rate, mathematical miracles that teams of humans working on the same problems for decades on end never could. AI today is the worst it will ever be, so that means whatever the rate of miracles it produces today is, that rate will only increase as time goes on. Nobody can prove that AI has or will break modern cryptography, but nobody can prove that it won't, either. Meanwhile the miracles keep coming, faster and faster. If you're holding the bag when the wrong miracle happens, it goes to zero overnight. Everyone perceives this new state of affairs and sees that there is no expiration date on it, and elects to sell before other people sell because in this new state of affairs you can either sell now, sell later for less, or hold until cryptography breaks and your bags go to zero.Again, this is all bullshit. Nobody's going to break ecdsa or public key cryptography. And if they did, they wouldn't blow their cover by draining a crypto wallet. And if they did, they would never bother targeting your wallet. And none of this matters, because crypto is a beauty contest where the only thing that matters is guessing what other people are thinking and then acting on that information before they do. This is not like quantum where qday is approaching, but we can measure its approach and take appropriate measures ahead of time. This is a situation where the break might already be here, and by the time you can know it is it's already too late. So the only sane thing to do is sell now before you can't sell at all.
>>62769416Good Fud.
>>62769416Cope, it's quite likely cryptocurrency is already compromised, but they won't tell us. Just the fact that everything they released DID NOT include cryptography says enough, if you are not a brainlet. An old satoshi era wallet just "woke up" recently. Not a coincidence.
>>62769416you're right, but guess what?this applies not only to crypto, but also to the ENTIRE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEMthe vast majority of what most people "own" is just numbers on digital ledgersthey are all vulnerableit is just a matter of time before they are compromisedthe flight to safety once the first major hack takes place is going to be epicimagine everyone in the world trying to take physical cash out of the bank at oncethe only safe havens are physical goods (like precious metals) and things you can prove you own with physical sheets of paper, like real estate deedsif you don't hold it........you don't own it
this is just nerd panic getting extrapolated into the dumbest possible ending. ai getting scary good at math does not mean it can suddenly pull a private key out of secp256k1 tomorrow morning. there’s a massive gap between solving hard math problems and having a practical break on ecdsa.and even if somebody found one, crypto doesn’t instantly go to zero the second the paper drops. exchanges, wallets, miners, everyone would start scrambling to migrate signatures the moment the attack was reproducible. the actually scary case is someone having a private exploit and keeping their mouth shut while they steal quietly, and right now there’s no evidence of that.sell because you think btc is overpriced, sure. selling because oai solved a bunch of math problems and therefore satoshi’s wallet explodes next week is a hell of a fucking leap
>>62769416>>62769438Bad Fud.
>>62769416Ok but wen sub1500 eth? I AM WAITING PATEL!
>>62769471I think you're missing OP's point. It may be true that AI will never crack crypto security, but people worrying about such a hypothetical would affect the price
If scenario proposed by OP was true, what would be the symptoms?>shitcoin whales, memecoin whales, altcoin whales would all want to dump their bags>they can't just unload their bags into air>they would require massive exit liquidity>to attract exit liquidity they would need to pump up the price of shitcoins>but we don't see that>whay we see is retail selling into dumps>with big players slowly accumulatingSo whales will be the ones left holding the bags as retail makes the smart move and exits before it all goes to 0?How likely is that?The current bounce started in July, months before this news. So that's not it.Recent pump happened in late September, 2 weeks before the news broke, and it dumped on the news. Big wallets accumulated or went sideways for the entire September and early October. This is not large players unloading their bags.
load ze quantum fud
>>62769443Post your short positions on BTC
>apocalyptic event>market crabs at low volumeThis fud is retarded
>>62769560>>shitcoin whales, memecoin whales, altcoin whales would all want to dump their bags>>they can't just unload their bags into airThats just not true, there is liquidity to sell on most coins.
>>62769921Right, whales will dump millions of coins / tokens into mm bots
>>62769416Just withdraw your bitcoins off the internet and keep them at home in a safe.
>>62769944>https://x.com/MagicalTux/status/2108556423445835827crypto got too much attention after the first ETF launched. now there’s wrench and supply chain attacks. good luck if you didn’t buy a HD wallet before, you’re probably going to get got
>>62769944>>62769974>https://x.com/CryptoAwaz/status/2108559605173510567best thing about this, it was an Indian who sold out the company to a Chinese investor and is defending themself by saying they’ve signed an NDA. the future of finance right here in the hands of streetshitters
>>62769974>now there’s wrench and supply chain attacks.Based as fuck
>>62769443>Just the fact that everything they released DID NOT include cryptography says enoughOh you're>implyingthey made some breakthroughs but those were not made public, but it caused this freakout?
>oy vey, here is why AI will kill the goyim
>>62769416>This is a situation where the break might already be here, and by the time you can know it is it's already too late. So the only sane thing to do is sell now before you can't sell at all.Your life may already have peaked, and by the time you know it has it's already too late. So the only sane thing to do is shoot yourself now.
>>62769453Absolutely, if you cracked encryption you wouldn’t use it to farm shitcoins, you would log into the federal reserve, print ten brazillion dollars and send them to every bank account on the planet, you would also tap into Chinese and American military servers and dump every single military secret on the web for lulz.
>>62769416What might be more likely is for frontier models to be used to innovate practical quantum computing solutions.Quantum algorithms have already been proven to break modern encryption, because cryptography just relies on solutions being infeasible to reach via non-quantum deterministic or probabilistic means.
>>62771439Yes, I think that the bigger concern is security in general.Not just cryptocurrency.
>>62771439Personally, I would hack and brick all satellites, relay towers and all servers that used to verify date and time (but first send last update as random time per server).It would be repairable, would cause almost no deaths but the insane damage caused would force a global state of emergency for weeks or months.It would be a comfy happening.
>>62771672Claude estimates this as a 10/10 happening that would take at least 20 years to fully recover from.But it also estimates that 80% of global population would die as a result so that's probably too much of a happening.
>>62769416the real question is, will Big Slop find NSA backdoors in ECDSA and hashing functions used by crypto
>>62771683Anybody who dies from not knowing what time it is is weak. I can look at the sun and make an estimation that is maybe 70% accurate, and that's enough for me.
>>62771683To be fair I didn't expect that a hack like that could wipe 80% of humanity.I've asked it what kind of hack would bring maximum death toll and it replied it would hack agricultural biolabs that produce GMO crops, creating a super mold that would spread across entire planet rendering all agricultural plants infertile for centuries, deleting agriculture from this planet, causing collapse of all nations and reducing human population to harmless fishermen tribes like the Eskimo.
>>62771694Based sun ponderer
>>62771697It also said it would create the mold with DNA sections that would mutate over time in a very predictable way, making the payloads asleep for 3-4 years to ensure that the winds and rain would spread it across entire planet before a probabilistic mutation would arm the payloads everywhere almost at the same time, giving humans 0 chance to react, detect or identify the problem before it's too late.
>>62769453My bank account locks if I fail my password 3 times tho.
If edsa gets broken all communication of the internet gets compromised and is the least of you worries, the most likely scenario is that a certain key length is compromised due to a speed increase and they key length gets longer. A problem for most companies but maybe your internet funny money will be comprimised.
>>62769416Op says it with such certainty he leaves no option in his head for the fact that, yes, cryptography can be broken no matter how secure it is believed to be, for the same reason we don't use older and now considered broken and insecure cryptographic algorithms.
>>62769453Which means BTC wins again because its still the most cryptographically secure.And no, gold loses by default since it can't be used without IOUs and can't scale into the digital age.
>>62771672The consequences are probably more fatal than you thinkA LOT of things depend on time, all of internet traffic and secure communication, i bet most new cars wont start without time
>>62769560This. OP is a faggot. Retail ALWAYS holds the bag. If anything, whales want you to get shaken out by this fud so they can continue accumulating before we moonshot later this month.
>>62769443>>62769438>>627694162. The XRP Ledger actually has a structural advantage here. It natively supports Ed25519 alongside ECDSA. While Ed25519 is also mathematically vulnerable to quantum cracking, the XRPL architecture is already built to handle multiple key types. Upgrading the XRPL to a third, post-quantum signature algorithm is structurally cleaner than doing so on legacy chains.
>>62769416>Nerds on xitter call for imminent breach of ecdsa cryptographyCan you even begin to explain how this works? >scroll down>SNAILCAT SNAILCAT SNAILCAT TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY SNAILCATThought so.The problem with AI jeets is they are incapable of understanding the context which AI succeeds. These math researchers are using their own research to finish the last mile on problems they mostly had solved. There is no current existing proof that ecdsa is vulnerable.
>>62771871Xrp wins again
>>62771871>>62771882• The XRP Ledger was built from the ground up to easily interpret different digital signature schemes. Adding a new post-quantum signature algorithm (like Crystals-Dilithium) to the XRPL code is essentially like adding a new app to an operating system.
>>62771885>>62771871if the XRP Ledger developers proactively integrate post-quantum cryptography before an ECDSA-breaking tool goes live, it becomes one of the most structurally resilient networks. Its modular architecture allows it to swap cryptographic engines much faster and cleaner than rigid networks like Bitcoin.
>>62771889• Because the XRP Ledger relies on a structured, smaller set of validators, the network can be paused or hard-forked by human decree almost instantly. If an emergency occurs, the validators can collectively agree to freeze all transactions, halt the ledger, and manually install a post-quantum hashing algorithm (like SHA-3 or ML-DSA) before restarting.
Alright I asked which crypto is most secure and ai says>If forced to pick exactly one asset to hide capital in to survive a sudden cryptographic collapse of this magnitude, it is not a traditional top-10 coin. The logical choice is The Quantum Resistant Ledger (QRL).Never heard of it myselfBut xrp ranks #2 if they try and get ahead of the problem
>I wonder if it can scan all of keys.lol and find addresses with coins>shits the bed immediately >coerce it into searching >looks at 3 pages and gives up>says its too hard Gayest bubble ever
realistically, neither Bitcoin nor Ethereum can implement post-quantum cryptographic upgrades in a short, agile timeframe like XRP.While the developers on both networks are actively researching and drafting emergency plans, their underlying network architectures and governance models make a rapid, frictionless transition impossible compared to the XRP Ledger (XRPL).
>>62771908• Realistically, if a mainstream asset has to pivot, XRP is built to move the fastest. Because it features a compact, institutionally backed validator network (the UNL), it can vote on and push a hard fork to introduce new NIST-approved signature schemes in days. Furthermore, its native key rotation means users can upgrade their security signature without changing their public wallet addresses.
As mentioned earlier, post-quantum signatures (like Crystals-Dilithium) are mathematically massive—often 50 to 700 times larger than classical ECDSA signatures.• On Bitcoin and Ethereum, larger transaction sizes translate directly to severe network congestion and sky-high transaction/gas fees, punishing the average user.• On XRP, the network's high-throughput architecture is designed to handle heavy transactional volume efficiently, meaning it can absorb these massive signature payloads without causing fees to skyrocket into unusable territory.
XRP is entirely different. Its architecture features Native Key Rotation. Post-upgrade, if an algorithm needs to be updated again due to a secondary AI breakthrough, you can simply swap out the master private key behind your account while keeping the exact same XRP address. For global enterprises, banks, and daily users, this completely eliminates the administrative nightmare of re-routing payments.
XRP is arguably the most logical and practical choice for an economy navigating a rapid cryptographic transition.If you look past the immediate panic and focus on how a global financial network must operate after the initial crisis has been managed, the XRP Ledger (XRPL) possesses distinct structural advantages that make it uniquely suited for a fast-changing world
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>>62771908>>62771910>>62771919>>62771925>>62771929>words words words>says nothing Shut the fuck up text generating algorithm
>>62771944Seethe brainlet
>>62771945You literally posted a wall of text a chat not shat out as if it was arcane knowledge. You were so fucking around of that lmao. This is who holds cripple.
>>62771957• The world's economic infrastructure would flock to XRP because its Federated Consensus model allows it to recover and stabilize within days, rather than years. Its native key rotation means global banks and supply chains can seamlessly swap out compromised keys without changing their institutional wallet routing addresses, allowing global settlement to resume with zero downtime.
>>62771843Yeah apparently the move to poison the time data before bricking time servers would make the recovery take years instead of weeks. I don't know much about this part of communications infrastructure but supposedly that would be a massive dick move.
