Ledgers have been confirmed to have been intercepted and bugged at the supply-chain level, coming new-from-factory with SIM cards and antennas grafted to their cicruitboard to phone home all the users' credentials. Potentially apocalyptic depending on how widespread it is. Thousands of retail outlets implicated in Europe alone, situation still developing.https://x.com/0xJohannes_/status/2109634513957527974
>>62774615>he uses his crypto devices outside of Faraday cagekek, ngmi
>>62774620mfw immune to the issue because all my coins are on a soft wallet on a phone that stopped getting updates around Android 7.0
>>62774615remember when Mossad intercepted the supply chain of pagers and made them all mini bombs?probably not related in any way whatsoever and a complete coincidence
>>62774640We could probably get a betting pool going over whether this was Israel, India, or China.
>>62774647>designed in Tel Aviv made in china!
>>62774615do people rly buy ledgers from anywhere but official ledger site
I bought mine about 1 - 2 years ago on amazon and it was verified by ledger. how worried should I be ?
>>62774757Very
>>62774757I would be wigging out but I don't know how to even recommend a course of action.Is the weight of a ledger public knowledge? Could you weigh it to see if it's too heavy?
>>62774615i never understood why anyone would buy these?how is this meant to be better or more secure than just remembering some words in your brains ?
Just heard from a friend he got hacked on a ledger, lost 2/3rds of his stack. Feels bad man, if he'd asked I would have told him to use trezor. He's past it now but he's sort of washed his hands of crypto and is happy to sit in cash.
>>62774838please refrain from posting selfies along with your posts
>>62774772>Is the weight of a ledger public knowledge?Good question. Going to look
>>62774772>weightgenius
>>62774772Device WeightLedger Flex: 57.5 gLedger Stax: 45.2 gLedger Nano X: 34 gLedger Nano S Plus: 21 g
>>62774772>Just buy a $500 precision scale anonBut actually this is clever
People in here talking about counterfeits and gram weightage like this is the precious metals general. Reinventing the wheel with extra steps. My gold won't get vaporized by EMPs.
>>62775329A digital precision scale with 0.01g accuracy is less than $20 on amazon right now. You'll still want a couple weights to calibrate it but it's not that big of an expense.
>>62774615So people are buying from third party retailers and are shocked that the devices were tampered with? This shit is crypto 101.
my wallet is safe because nobody, not even me, knows the password or will ever know the password
If only there was a way people could transfer their coins to a different wallet before the hacker drains their ledger.
So glad I have the original ledger nano that is too simple and shitty for any of these shenanigans
>>62774615i had 12k XMR on an external harddrive never understood the need for a hardware wallet
>>62776229private keys can be exfiltrated from a standard hard drive. they can't from a TEE
>>62776234>TEE*TPM
>>62776234it was never plugged in to another device. bought / sold dont seems like a USB wouldve worked but i downloaded the whole XMR block chain
>>62774615couldn't ledger, yknow, make their wallets transparent (literally) to prevent mysterious black box data rape syndrome?
>>62776285they obviously need to work out some tamper proof solution, transparent casing can be circumvented, it just adds a bit of complexity. they will come up with something much more robust.
>>62774615i stopped reading halfway through op's post and i dont understand therefore i dont care
>>62775938This. Imagine buying a used hardware wallet to save $20
>>62774640More like a cohencidence amirite
>>62775949kek
>>62776285>>62778451>>62776285>>62778451They do have kind of transparent models. I wonder if making them too transparent would make them prone to sunlight damage, etc.