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>>62785507>OP is a fudding moonfag What a sad state of affairs>Inb4 but he didn't say anythingThe mooncarrot meme was started a few generals ago by a fudding moonfag crying about CARROT and then creating this false mooncarrot-loving persona.
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>>62785608Mooncarrot is cool and the only good meme to come out of XMR recently. Nobody cares if you want to call the originator a moonfag, that’s how mooncarrot got its name in the first place.
>>62785888Mooncarrot sucks. It's literally just a carrot. It doesn't even have any convictions or goals. The only memes we need are Monerochan, Wownerochan (because I like dog girls) and extremists.
For anyone here who's into workouts, I've been working on a strength coaching project built around Monero.No accounts, no cards, just personalized training programs paid in XMR.There's also a free 4-week training program on the site if anyone wants to check it out.https://cipherstrength.netWould appreciate some feedback.
>>62785903The carrot is the most relevant of your chosen whore shithttps://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.mdIt is tracking the upcoming carrot fork. >Carrot (Cryptonote Address on Rerandomizable-RingCT-Output Transactions) is an addressing protocol for the upcoming FCMP++ upgrade to Monero which maintains backwards compatibility with existing addresses. It does this while bringing new privacy and usability features, such as outgoing view keys.
>>62786155Try again, fudder
Monero is a terrible investment but it doesn't bother me because I'm generating a regular XMR cash flow with my side hustles. So keep on crabbing, I'm getting paid regardless kek
>>62786171Don’t shit on the last great PR for Monero as after this it’s going to be LLM tainted which remains functionally the same, but far “gayer”>In the beginning, The carrot is necessary. Since there was only one address per wallet, a method was needed for receivers to differentiate their senders. An arbitrary 32 byte string attached to transactions, was the initial solution to this problem. The aim was that users sending funds would include a 32 byte message that gave the recipient user enough evidence to attribute that transaction to them. Integrated addresses improved the UX of these payment IDs by having the recipient's wallet generate and include them inside of addresses, which were automatically added to the transaction data by the sender's wallet. They were also shortened to 8 bytes. Wallets then started encrypting the payment IDs on-chain, and adding dummies if no payment IDs were used, which greatly improved privacy. With the carrot, we have some security properties which are to hold for Carrot. Unless otherwise specified, it is assumed that no participant can efficiently solve the decisional Diffie-Hellman problem in Curve25519 and Ed25519.>efficently What does that mean? It’s a understatement, it means if you can efficently crack a private key you can crack monero transaction privacy
>>62786322Are you ok?
Reminder the market has decided: ZEC is the winner > I’m not wrong, the market is!lol, cope
>>62786390Oh no, it's the retard who was scared to reply in the thread he made himself. RUN EVERYBODY!
>>62786379Literally copy and pasted from readme, are you afraid of the carrot fork readme? Are YOU ok 5 retarded pbtid?
>>62786488You doublenigger this is about mooncarrot being a retarded meme. I'm pro-CARROT, against false flag memes
>>62786390There's no real conviction behind Zionist Cash. It will be some of the first sellers let go when things go south, as they inevitably will.Congrats to any gains made by brave men, but this is a hot potato pancake.
This is a proud luddite thread. We hate AI here. XMR is great for taking a stance against LLMs. Snailcat and proud.
>>62785507Zcash won
Why did fudders suddenly go with AI for their talking points? Go back to misunderstanding CARROT please, it's much more fun than this false drama about word guessing machines but gay jews who rape their baby daughters.
>>62786390Monero has been "beaten" by dozens of memecoins over the years. What's one more?
>>62786944Because it's easy to create a false dilemma with>X is changing>This will surely destroy Monero >And even if it doesn't completely the devs will be too slow/stupid/etc to fix the damage x causes>There are no other outcomes that could exist in this hypothetical scenario>What will the devs do about this thing that I'm not required to answer specifics about, but you are?
>>62787091Yes but why are they kvetching about AI right now? The millennium problem was 'solved' weeks ago, same for the gorillion unreviewed math papers they published, they also did lots of spooky hacks. Why would a fudder start with this now and not like a month ago?
>>62787109Occam's Razor says they're just late to the party like they were with the CARROT fud. Call me naive but I don't think it's any deeper than that
>>62785608>people who have questions about Monero can’t make fun memes>>62786944>people can’t have questions about multiple things>>62787091>people can’t have questions you need to specifically predict the future of AI before you have a critical question >>62787109>you’re only allowed to have questions at this specific time>>62787285>you’re only allowed to have questions at the same time as other peopleShould we develop a standard for questions to the esteemed Monero community? I think we have a good start:Someone is ONLY allowed to ask critical questions about Monero if they: (i) have zero fun while doing it (ii) simultaneously provide specific original research that predicts the future of how it will affect Monero, (iii) provide alternative investment decisions assuming Monero doesn’t work out, (iv) provide ONLY ONE question at a time, (v) ask said question ONLY within the first 48 hours of said issue being discussed on Twitter, (vi) ask said question ONLY while said question is popular among other people.Did I forget anything? Should we put it in the OP?
Fact 1) Zcash is closer to quantum resistanceFact 2) Shielded Zec is more private due to ZK proofs, Monero is just a shell game with anonymity set of 16 Fact 3) Compliant privacy is more investable, doesn’t matter how good Monero is if nobody can buy it with size (last XMR exchange in USA just introduced $1500 monthly limits)Fact 4) Monero reputation is bearish not bullish as is will scare off new buyers Fact 5) Reddit loves Monero, and hates Zcash. This is the greatest counter signal if Reddit overwhelmingly supports a coin…
>>62787819Testosterone level in crypto are at ATL with no sign of support.The few who found a way to buy BTC early, besides having a good information, had balls of steel to blindly buy something against the gov control. Almost no markets. And those few were scammy and buggy af.So stop bitching!Current price action has nothing to do with crypto or adoption.It's just investors playing it safe, buying into a narrative. Probably the riskiest thing they've done is improper parking.As soon as the digital euro starts (2029), people will look for an alternative.
>>62787819Fact 1) Zcash is closer to quantum resistanceFact 2) Shielded Zec is more private due to ZK proofs, Monero is just a shell game with anonymity set of 16Fact 3) Compliant privacy is more investable, doesn’t matter how good Monero is if nobody can buy it with size (last XMR exchange in USA just introduced $1500 monthly limits)Fact 4) Monero reputation is bearish not bullish as is will scare off new buyersFact 5) Reddit loves Monero, and hates Zcash. This is the greatest counter signal if Reddit overwhelmingly supports a coin…Nobody actually uses Zcash so it's now *entirely* dependent on memecoin marketing tactics. Case-in-point: your post.
>>62787285I think they're constantly rotating fud just to have something against XMR. Why they'd do that is beyond me. >>62787377Mediocre bait, even >>62787819 is better.
>>62788507Has there ever been some kind of investigation if any of the devs that knew about this didn't use the exploit themselves?
New beta version of the GetMonero site>https://beta.getmonero.orgOfficial announcement>https://www.getmonero.org/2026/09/08/announcing-the-getmonero-org-beta.html
>>62791291Thanks! Looks like shit
>>62786870I pay for all my AI with XMR
>>62792030But anon how will we got gorillions in investor money if we don't have a new site with even more js dependencies?
>>62791291Hahaha at least it is clear a human drew this. This is Christchan-retarded level art.
>>62792672>No JavaScript required>No landing-page gimmicks>No dark-only theme>Designed for mobile from the start>No increase in page weight
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>>62792673they genuinely should've used xmr-chan
>>62792031Why would you use AI at all? It's just a hallucination-engine that can't think, or reason and can't produce anything or value to anyone.
>>62793388>I’m too scared of the way AI will transform math, cryptography, and Monero>I know! I’ll just pretend it’s a hallucination machine and pretend nothing is happening
>>62793923You got btfo'd last thread already, sam-kun
>>62793953>”got btfo’d”>literally did nothing but evade the topic the whole time
>>62794095No you just were retarded and failed to provide any evidence. You said AI is gonna rape us because no papers were published. This was your entire argument.
>>62794107>more evasionKeep throwing your head in the sand and pretending like nothings happening. You know you’re allowed to consider the future and anticipate likely future events right? You don’t have to shut yourself off from uncomfortable things.The only reason you’re pretending like you don’t notice the progress of AI is because you’re subconsciously worried about what it means for Monero.
>>62794307Can you at least use a trip code so that we can filter you?
Pumping?
>>62793388AI got good this year.
>>62785507YEO! WHATS GOIN ON!! $600 WAITING ROOM!
>>62794476Nice try SamA. No one with any semblance of intelligence uses AI for anything more than a quick laugh. Its output is completely untrustworthy as it is just a poorly trained stochastic parrot. Spicy autocomplete will never amount to anything useful and the financial circle jerk bubble you've pumped up between you and your crony friends will burst soon and everyone will realize what a sad lie they've been fed.
>>62794580Have you used AI in the past 6 months? Want to know if you’re stupid or just ignorant.
>>62794940You lost, tranny.
>>62786141Thank you for the free program kek
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>>62794940>(You): ai is good now this time actually for real this time I promise it's good now just try the new model pretty please with a cherry on top!Lol nice try Dario, your grift is about to fall apart. You can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing you.
>>62795500Have you used AI in the last 6 months?
>>62795518>(You) 2023: it's good this time we swear it's not just chatGPT++>(You) 2024: it's good this time we swear it's not just chatGPT++>(You) 2025: it's good this time we swear it's not just chatGPT++>(You) 2026: it's good this time we swear it's not just chatGPT++Lol, you lost and no one trusts you anymore. Maybe next year eh? Maybe 2028? Hahahaha
>>62795532Have you used AI in the last 6 months?
>>62795538>>62795518It's less shit than it was 12 months ago, but still just google search that works with pictures/cameras
>>62795581even if its wrong 50% of the time that doesnt matter since it can keep looping. if you have something testable like an executable piece of code then it can keep checking if its right. check out /gif/ lately, people are spamming videos of ugly indian men sucking bbc and fully replacing porn stars with celebrities, the new video models are crazy
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>>62794307Show me your cryptographic papers then. >>62794476Wasn't GPT-2 already crazy scary?
>>62796273>the future won’t happen
>>62796301>FuD IDI rest my case
>>62796188What is this image even trying to say?
>>62796362Check the backpack, it clearly says NOOL
>>62786390Again agorist faggot with the jewish market.
>>62785722What's that?
>>62793388Have you used AI in 2026?
>>62797209590 crab coin
>>62786390kektranny jew coinzec is trashonly XMR gives zero fucks about regulations and the powers that besound money, safe mode
charts looking good this month
>>627984761k EOY
>>62798476>>62798532sorry i just bought 1 xmr so it's going to dump any minute now
>>62798613Doesn't work that way anymore. We pump
>>62798618you underestimate my influence over the market
>>62798723Same. I just sold so it's gonna pump
>>62798723buy 2 more, i need one last sub 500 purchase
>>62799157>i need one last sub 500 purchaseJust buy now before it goes to 800!
told you all, it's over
>>62799618https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-TFNOTgZXQ
>>62799618Yes, completely over as we plummet back to 597
Do we have an explanation yet for the pump? Did a financial shoa happen and 6 gorillion got redeemed?
>>62800019People are waking up. The rest of crypto is dying, as it should, and that value has to flee to real crypto, stables or die.More and more people are having funds FROZEN, especially stablecoins. Better to save in XMR and swap out as needed. The pump aslo invites those looking for some quick ROI.
>>62800224Do they though? I'm not trans enough to follow the public discourse on twitter.
>>62800240>Do they though?Too vague and grammatically incorrect for me to follow. Elaborate.
>>62800259Sorry, should've been 'are they though?'
>>62800279I believe they are. Slowly and in small numbers, but they're there.
Stupid 600 stablecoin.
>>62800921back in my day(spring 2026) this was a 350 stable coin
>>62800950Okay gramps, time to go to bed
This came out in march and so far there seems to be no realistic path for Monero to become quantum resistant before such a computer can crack it in ONLY 3 YEARSI'm genuinely considering an exit plan, because there'd only need to be 1 more quantum advance in between those 3 years and it's an instant wipe
>>62801213Once someone else figures out quantum resistant encryption, we will simply adapt it into monero codebase.Ezpz
>>62801848Quantum resistant encryption already exists, the problem is integrating it into the monero blockchain without breaking backward compatibility and without other tradeoffs like speed and ease of use.
>>62801213>there seems to be no realistic path for Monero to become quantum resistant before such a computer can crack ithttps://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151>in ONLY 3 YEARS>if>could>might>maybe>possibly >probably >potentially >imminently >theoreticallyAs long as this is the language used to describe the quantum threat and no one noteworthy switches to full PQC, it's not worth rushing into imo
>>62794543>>62791085Death or reeducation camp for the monerochan whore?
>>62801213I like this FUD much more than the AI FUD. It's even dumber but it's also much harder to disprove because we know even less about QCs.
>the chart goes up because of supply squeeze>the actual price is going downits over this time, isn't it?
>>62799506shit you may have been right, its even more above 600 now!!kicking myself
>>62803028Did you buy? Just buy! Then say bye to whatever levels you were smart enough to buy at. We're taking off (slowly)!
>>62803259no i set a buy order last night at 590 thinking it would dip>it didnt
it's over this time fr fr
>>62803023What do you mean “actual price”?
>>62803259the current dip set my buy order off, we good
>>62803748>buy order last night at 590Congrats, it was as low as 570 for a bit
>>62804530I did an emergency buy at 575 after the 590 went off.Very happy about it. Gonna do some spending with my gains this weekend
$626
six fiddy
>>62804919make sure to tax your gains properly
AI and monero are friends
>>62805430No taxing needed if I never cash out ;)
>it's at 560 nowhuh, well I'm selling my stash until it dumps againwhy did it pump from around 250?
$700 waiting room
So we can finally say agorist nigger were wrong and that the moonboys are always right. Kill al agorist faggots
>>62805878Least retarded moonboy bait
>it's hacker seasonwhere will the money go? hmmm....
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>>62805878Yes.Someone post the anti-privacy coin wargame document where they outline price suppression as a strategy for reducing interest.
>>62808427>I only care about my privacy and freedom if I get paid for itLiteral slave mentality
>>62807971I would play moneropoloy
Feels so good to go from comfy to excited, back to comfy. It's so easy to hold XMR and be unbothered by the overall market.Like a utility or something
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sold everythingnow you can dump to 250 so I can buy back
>>62811510>dump to 250Bro... This is about to go higher
>>62801213>no realistic path for Monero to become quantum resistantVia Grok:In future planning for a full post-quantum migration, developers have discussed apost-quantum turnstile (or similar migration mechanism). The high-level idea is:The network eventually activates a new, quantum-resistant consensus/addressingprotocol.Users are given a window to move funds from old(classic/CARROT-legacy-compatible) outputs into the new PQ scheme via a specialmigration transaction (the “turnstile”).After a cutoff, classic-style spends are no longer accepted by consensus.Outputs that were never migrated become unspendable (or can only be claimed undervery restricted, carefully designed conditions that a quantum attacker cannotabuse).This prevents a quantum adversary from simply recovering private keys of remainingclassic outputs and draining them after the cryptography is broken. The turnstileitself is designed so that migration proofs remain secure even against quantumcomputers.Importantly, current designs indicate the turnstile is primarily (or exclusively)usable with CARROT-derived accounts/keys, not pure pre-CARROT legacy keyhierarchies. That is one reason developers emphasize generating or migrating toCARROT-compatible wallets while the cryptography is still classical—so that a cleanmigration path exists later.
Does online poker with Monero exist yet?
>>62812462I vaguely remember there used to be a regular XMR poker game Fridays here on /biz/. I never participated, though I wanted to.
>>62812624>I vaguely remember there used to be a regular XMR poker game Fridays here on /biz/. I never participated, though I wanted to.Fun times.
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>https://www.monerochan.artNew monerochan! nsfw variants are on the site.
>>62814941>nsfw variantsEw
>>62815240>Ewfag
>>62815273>If you're not a complete pornrotted degen (aka faggot) you're a fagYou ok anon?
>>62815308It's not an illustration of her getting dp'd. It's good old pin-up art like your granddaddy used to appreciate.No worries, the current commissions are much less sinful. Holy, even.
>>62815316>Degeneracy now bad>Degeneracy now goodThis almost is sadder than the utter blasphemy of making her seem like a saint. Sainthood is reserved for actual people only, as we are the only ones who can acquire the likeness of God through His grace. That means that God remains in them and they remain in God, so making her seem like le based orthodox saint is reducing God to just some benevolence and sainthood to just being somewhat good. Saints are not venerable due to their own character and deeds but the glorification given by Christ for their life. The veneration is rendered onto God through His saints which reflect His majesty like a mirror reflecting an inkling of sunlight.
>>62815316How long has the poker variant been waiting for funding? Would have loved to have donated when XMR was 350. Might still donate
>>62815375It's been on the list almost 2 years I think. With the recent price action the poker one will get done regardless of whether it hits that goal. After the Mercy and Saint projects are done.
>>62815308why are sharties and newtards like this? you're all two psyops away from chopping off your dicks to stop being perverts
>>62815345I'd rather venerate Monero-chan than your load of bullshit. Maybe your religious drivel is blasphemous against Her.
I'm Satoshi
>>62815375>Would have loved to have donated when XMR was 350Why does the current price of XMR, measured in US dollars, affect your willingness to donate?Ask yourself, are you retarded or are you retarded?
>>62815345Based
>>62816276That's too much money for me to give away rn
>>62816470So you're retarded.
>>62816475Sure
>>62816069>AHHHH PLEASE COOMI don't think I will, Satan. >>62816072God gave you the freedom to abandon Him. However, both you and I know what's going to happen to you. >>628164701 XMR = 1 XMR.
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>>62817535Literally
crazy that thorchain still hasnt went live with XMR swaps yet after hyping it up like 3 months ago
>>62816814Monero-chan gave you the freedom to abandon Her. However, both you and I know what's going to happen to you.
>>62820955Remember when that was the alleged cause of one of our pumps?
>>62821082>Heh what if I just changed the subject of the sentence. Nothing personnel kid
>>62821105>personnelI changed an object too.
>>62821086i mean if they went live as soon as it said they would, having a true dex with xmr swaps would be an absolute game changer. and they did just take the serai code after all
>>62821279What’s obviously going to happen is that thorchain will release, we’ll get a temporary massive pump, then it will fail because their devs are shit, everything will come crashing down, price will dump like 20%, it will be “Monero’s fault” and somehow zcash will benefit.I just hope Serai is released in the next ~2 years.
>>62821086I 'member.
>>62820955Fuck thorchain. Vibe coded slop.XMR needs methodical snailcats to keep the code quality high.
Is wagyu legit? Is it native XMR?
>>62821633i honestly have no idea, we dont have the wagyu shill on here anymore and since they did the whole "scammers use us to cash out" fake advert ive been more sketched by them.maybe another anon could chime in that was brave enough>>62821500i agree to a degree, if it actually works and passes some security checks, i know the monero devs will def look at it, id use it. their last multisig bridge implementation was checked by monero devs and independent audit bought by cakewallet devs and passed the smell test but was never implemented >https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/rlo8cz/cake_wallet_asked_inference_to_audit_thorchains/>https://gitlab.com/thorchain/misc/monero-sign
>>62822115Prove it by sending one satoshi from your big stack to any other address right now
>>62825416I'll do it on 1. October
