What's wrong bro? You don't like working every second of your life and not enjoying anything so you can see your family and pets get old with no energy to spend time with them? You're just a lazy nigger man get a (second)job.

>noooo stop looking for alternative ways to make money and just wage slave away at your corporate job

>>62813483
It works because people are using resources they already have to pay for for personal use. Whether it's monetizing their car or living space or spare time.

If they actually kept the resources used for the business separate they would lose money. This is an amazing opportunity for companies that exploit people's desperation by getting them to pay all the business expenses in exchange for less than minimum wage. 30 years ago none of these side gigs would have been legal just because they don't pay a fair wage after expenses

at this point no normal job that pays enough is hiring anyway. I just insult recruiters now. Some dipshit posts a fake job, wastes my time, I call them a jew or tell them if they harass me by email with fake jobs again I'll find their house and throw shit at the windows. I don't give a fuck. You have no power over me when all you have a re lies.

>>62813488
>>62813490
>>62813494
It is bad because iti's just a second job, if it were a business it would've be a 'side hustle'.

>>62813495
I am there with you brother

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>>62813483
you need to add the following:
>hustle
>know your worth
>bro
>Gay Vaynerchuckingcorn
>Alex Hormonezi
>im only human
>bag
>blow your mind
>grindset
>Dorito
>grind hard
>know your growth

It is also bad because the normalization of 'side hustles' leads to the expectations of them, which affects consumer pricing like rent. The whole thing is a sickness driven by 80 IQ screwdrivers.

>>62813483
I prefer bought jobs. Work that requires expensive equipment and education.

I get $250/hour not because I'm special or smart. Just because I bought the equipment and certifications and insurance to do the job. Anyone can buy into my hustle but nobody does because they have no idea what it pays and it's pretty expensive to get into.

>>62813495
I just applied to an entry cybersecurity analyst job that needed an associates and 1 year of exp. I have a bachelors and multiple years and they insta declined me then my connection called them and was like "oops we'll put him on the interview list". It's all fucking bullshit man every online resume is sent immediately to the trash and/or info stealers after being raped by an AI because the HR lady doesnt wanna work

>>62813505
you own your own forklift?

>>62813498
>if it were a business it would've be a 'side hustle'.
That's wrong though

Legally a side hustle absolutely IS a business

>>62813508
Yes essentially.

I own asbestos removal gear and certs

Any monkey can do asbestos removal. It just costs a lot to get into

>>62813505
do you really describe what you do as a 'hustle'?

a hustle has connotations of something you work off and perform in a sweat, as if nonchalant and noncommittal. Like splitting extra firewood for resale or snagging cheapos from Ross to flip. It's fine in itself but niggerish in its shortsightedness.

>>62813509
>ummm legally im correct
surely you know what I mean, 'hustles' are typically not businesses but instead low paid services.

I watched my brother focus on hustles and was glad I focused on businesses. Until I lost everything and began posting on 4chan again, that is. But still.

>>62813512
There's no difference between that and running a business. Those are the same things. I work when I want. If I don't feel like working I don't. I'll do anything for money, I'm allowed to do whatever work I want. Sometimes I might be hauling trash, sometimes I might be collecting scrap, sometimes I even cut and sell firewood. There aren't any rules in business saying you HAVE to do ONLY one thing

>>62813514
Low paid services are absolutely businesses

Just not good ones

It's really faggot tier but if you live near a lot of bars a good side business is vape vending machines. That shit makes insane bank

>>62813516
What do you mean by 'bought job'?

Not judging, my lifetime highest $/hour so far was in delivering firewood probably.

I hope you get what I mean though. "hustle" is valuable in the sense of millionaire fast lane vibes but not avoiding a higher paying path in order to flip Pokemon cards you buy at retail prices.

A business in my opinion, maybe deranged, is something that produces more consistent products or services at a predictable margin and has potential for outsourcing the productive roles. I understand that definition isn't the Websters standard.

>>62813518
I mean stuff like flipping storage units, etc, where the operator is indefinitely owned by the process. Uber eats, door dash, etc. These are 'side hustles', but they're really distributed gig economy workers doing worse than they would under W2 employment.

>>62813529
By bought job I mean a side hustle that requires expensive equipment or training

Anyone can do the job but it costs money up front to do it

Washing windows or shampooing carpets are examples of bought jobs. You have to pay for equipment and training before you can get the job so it pays extremely well.

>>62813518
>>62813516
And I'm not saying they aren't technically businesses, I'm just more trying to point out that these 'hustlers' are just eating at the margins of what was relaxation for a normal neighborhood. And the fact that movement exist at all is annoying. It's like Kacyzinsky (Unabomber) with his surrogate stuff.

Like you aren't making the next Tektronix by turning in soda cans.

>>62813532
I get what you mean, but those are just illegal businesses

Illegal because they're businesses but the owners probably aren't paying their taxes and following the law because they're pretending it's not a business

>>62813534
>By bought job I mean a side hustle that requires expensive equipment or training
That is different than what I mean, but a fair example to describe 'pressure washers' and such. That is borderline side hustle but a step above imo.

>>62813536
Exactly. Because side hustles usually operate illegally and for unfair wages they destroy real jobs. Ask taxi drivers I guess

Side hustles are the illegal immigrants of commerce

>>62813538
We're on the same page for what the real bottom line is, and you obviously have experience here.

What is your bigness or 'side hustle'?

And again my point is that I just don't think it's valid to think of something as a 'side hustle', it's a business or a second job/service. It's just so niggery with how it's portrayed. Like reselling shit from goodwill is a grandiose startup.

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>>62813543
>Side hustles are the illegal immigrants of commerce
yes I agree

I like your style, I can tell you are like me (pic rel)

>>62813545
Yes we're in agreement. I think it's disgusting when a white man says I'll deliver pizzas for $4 per hour in my spare time because I need the money and I'm not doing anything else. We should unionize side hustles and make them pay.

I'm an environmental contractor

>>62813548
I've thought about trying to get into that, what do you engineer? I assume gov't employee?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KU7UM3i4qw&list=PLU8Idp--7OSd5x4r4EVl6jIJs1JkwJgyr

I used to have a business is why I started this thread, always hated 'side hustles' and was happy my business grew into a real G. People will steal your money and property and the government won't help. You can be left alone but nothing with your brain.

A side hustle mentality can help here but a business mentality builds the foundation.

>>62813556
Yes Gov contractor but about half my work is commercial industrial. I mostly haul dirt and treat water.

I'll do anything for money though. I offer site security, trash hauling, janitorial, crime scene clean up, recycling, scrap metal removal, foreclosure trash outs, ditch digging, whatever pays.

>>62813562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by9thx9LEKQ

>I'll do anything for money though.
I used to feel like that too, I wish I still did. Age? I'm 31, spiritually died at 28. I am trying to bounce back, I used to be a beast.

Experiencing unlawful wrongs and extortion can sure do a person in. I'm trying to recover./

>>62813567
I'm 56

I don't get burnt out because I employ people to do most of the work.

Regarding predators that's just part of the game. I carry lots of insurance and I don't mind declaring bankruptcy to screw over someone trying to rip me off. Good lawyers are necessary and insurance is the cheapest way to get them.

>>62813488
You described a side hustle.
>never make enough to save sufficient enough
>your networth is +-0 all year around
>still have to move your ass once, twice uf not more a week
>dont forget customer aquisition and tax shit
Nah thanks.

>>62813567
For straight up illegal threats I run an armed security company as part of my gig. If I feel threatened I have dudes with guns on my payroll. I'm not easy to get to.

>>62813569
>>62813575
If you're hiring in Oregon/Washington let me know.

>>62813586
Colorado, and no plans to expand. If you're a veteran you can easily get a job with a company just like mine though. Bonus points if you have law enforcement experience.

That's assuming you want to do security.
If you're interested in enviro then either construction experience, lab education, or engi is the way in

>>62813588
OK don't care, stop talking about yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzwLZKCvA3o

listen to this shit

>>62813590
https://youtu.be/4RcjS7laF-s?si=WfxnQZsVPf-TrHLV

>>62813588
I was just kidding

>>62813598
ok im not kidding anymore

>>62813603
I like your thoughts on side hustles. We agree. Maybe because we've both owned legit businesses. But you see the flaws in the gig economy and that's rare.

Most fools don't understand their side gig doesn't turn a profit. All it does is reduce losses while stealing a real job from someone else

>>62813612
I agree with you too

I wish I could get you a beer