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day 421 of growing my charizard collection till it hits $1mil

now AI bubble is popping what pokeinvestments do you have your eyes on?

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>>62864433
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97649728/
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>>62865894
kek
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Reminder to enjoy your fill of Rayquazas.
>Ray of the day
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>>62864433
https://www.serebii.net/card/flashfire/049.shtml https://youtu.be/QJJFlCDELas?si=UKaQF2pNThT-koOq
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Wanted to put a few k in those shitty cards (mostly to dab on my little brother who dreams he could do it) but the liquidity is do bad I just dropped the idea.
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>>62867819
cool ray bets thats done at least a 10x since last year kek
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Pic-related in reverse holo. Some random prism stars that I bought for $30 a few months ago are already selling for $60-$80. I believe this snek can do the same.
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>>62868774
based
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>>62864433

This shit is a bigger bubble than AI
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>>62867925
>>62868774
>>62868715
If either of you need accurate price quotes for your slabs, lmk. I'd be happy to serve some /biz/ anons that need help. It unfortunately has to be PSA only though as atm thats where most of our data points resides (nobody takes other grades seriously so we were discouraged to do other grading companies)
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What advice would you give to some braindead ex-pokemaniac who hasn't been involved with the TCG for 26 years? I've been interested in just doing some small investments to try to get some Pokeflipping on. Is there even a point of entry to make money with Pokemon cards still or have I simply waited way too fucking long on this one?
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>>62870511
everythings pumped imo

your best best is probs desirable budget IR's from sets within past year (so still in print) so can get some bargain $3-10 arts

or just keep it safe and buy any sealed product, always go up longterm
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>>62870612
Not much profit if I was trying to sell $3-$10 cards. I've sold other cards I've come across or just had laying around after I was into Pokemon and that was roughly what they sold for. I didn't make hardly anything off of them once fees, taxes, shipping, supplies, gas, and time was all taken into account.

Sealed product would be sitting way too long for me to make the money I need now.
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Bump
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>>62867819
found this in my old closet at my parents house a few months ago in like lp condition beautiful card
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>>62870647
oh i meant for 2+ years investing not to flip
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Bubble is going to pop soon but if you HODL long term (6 years) everything is going to be even higher
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Just had my first buyer scammer, saying he didn't receive the sealed packs I sent. Fucking scum ass
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>>62873122
send some sealed dogpoop to his address in a month
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Bump

Letting fellow Pokemon TCG frens know I provide accurate card valuations for PSA slabs, English and Japanese only and in this thread. If anyone needs help if they're intending to get a slab or offload them, let me know. More than happy to help
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>>62877498
based
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>>62878308
Thanks anon
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>>62864433
So are all collectibles going down after midterms? Not seeing any response to vintage games or pokemon cards anymore.
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>>62881061
short term maybe
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>>62870472
Just found this in a box in my attic, do you know how much this might be worth?
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>>62881468
I mean, look at it man. It's weak to water. That's current meta. It's going to be pennies on the dollar until they bring back fighting as the top pick.
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>>62869651
/thread
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>>62881468
Shitposting is still shit posting but in any case, it's now worth 1M and 56K. Now ask me about an actual card/slab that actually you have so I can help.
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>>62881598
Cool card anon
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>>62881598
id kill myself if i thought that was a cool card
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>>62881506
How about this in a PSA 10?
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>>62881859
Exquisite taste, I like Rayquaza and always loved Emerald. Unfortunately though that card has been plunging a bit since July. Right now as I'm typing this, a PSA 10 of that card is $4,390 (USD in case you're the Europe anon, all my numbers are in USD so just convert it to your currency if you want to know how much it equals elsewhere). That is the current fair market price as I type this post.

You're buying it or selling it? Doesn't make a difference, just curious. If you're buying just make sure you're not getting ripped off by some vendor trying to offload their inventory to cut their losses. It might dip even further but I don't do predictive analytics by choice, anyone claiming they know the future is straight up playing you. If you're offloading, just know this is your point and how much you want to sell it off to others is on you. I'm just here letting you know the real price of this in the market.

It's almost 10:30, gotta go. Hopefully we can continue whatever questions you have tomorrow in this thread
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>>62881671
kek that art style
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>>62881889
Got this one, I'm getting offers at 200$ but I'm thinking to myself, how many ninetales 1999 in such good condition exist in the world? especially considering the fact that time is only going forward, and once a guy picks one up for his collection, what are the odds he'll sell it before at least a year of holding
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>>62883338
Keep that shit bro 200 bucks seems laughable to me. There's probably more than we think but I agree with your sentiment. I'm too lazy to check the pop report.

Anyone watch Rudy's new vid? Idk how you guys feel about him here. I just check in once in awhile for his taco and penis jokes.
I'm hoping this period is an opportunity. I'm not a big sealed holder more a slab guy. Done pretty well buying bulk of stuff like ho oh v for 2 bucks a pop and selling 10s for 250. How do you guys feel about the 30th set? The fact that I managed to get an etb in store says a lot about the market.
I am wondering if I should gobble up as many IRs/sirs from it as I can while they're so cheap and dropping but also looking at celebrations I'm not sure if the singles did amazing, I feel it's more sealed. Whaddaya think boys?
(Yes I'm a small fry I'm working my way up to the heavier hitters)
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>>62883338
>Got this one, I'm getting offers at 200$ but I'm thinking to myself, how many ninetales 1999 in such good condition exist in the world? especially considering the fact that time is only going forward, and once a guy picks one up for his collection, what are the odds he'll sell it before at least a year of holding
Hi again, I'll answer the fair market price to this first and then the latter parts of your post. As of now in writing, this specific card is going for $670 dollars. Do not under any circumstances accept $200, that is a literal ripoff unless you're desperate and need cash money asap which then I won't judge you, if you need money you need money and I understand what it's like to struggle. It's been on an upward trajectory since late last year with only a small dip in September which has since rebounded. There's a little over 600 copies that were graded in a 9 for that card, but you could've known that with the pop report on PSA's website.

Like I've said before, no one can predict the market in general and anyone claiming so is selling you a bridge. The people in this hobby range from all types from resellers (GameStop to small fish like ebay resellers), investors (from rich individuals and institutions to people on this board), and flippers (vendors). That's not even accounting the collectors who collect specific cards like species, type, sets, etc. Cards will keep getting snapped up and will get worse if the market contracts temporarily, then a few whales and people with money get discounts during the fire sale so you're assumptions of maybe not seeing this card is likely. I'm here to let you know the real price of your card (as of now), so you don't get ripped off. Obviously prices fluctuate everyday whenever something happens so this won't be set in stone next day, week, or month when another sale happens (and I successfully flag outliers in sales that are suspicious).

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>>62884661
>>62883338
If you need constant monitoring of a card over a period of time (ie week, month[s]) or bulk valuations of your cards for one day, you can find me over xmr/Monero general. I try to be as flexible as I can with everyone, including those struggling. I mean, there's a reason why I give this analysis out for free sometimes.

Otherwise, you can find me here if you're asking about one specific card for the day. I don't like seeing people get ripped off, it really upsets me so I'm happy to help out.

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>>62884687
Memes aside, how do you unload a collection and how do you know what to send into tag these days?
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>>62884837
>Memes aside, how do you unload a collection
Are you asking the reasoning? If so, you ask yourself what do you need to sell (because you need the money), what do you want to sell (because you don't care about the card/s) and what is the money for (self-explanatory). If you're asking about how to unload raws into the market, there are tons of videos on YouTube on how to sell raw cards on TCG player and elsewhere like ebay. If they're slabs, usually it's ebay or if you have a valuable and pricey card, then at an auction site like Alt.

>and how do you know what to send into tag these days?
Don't want to beat a dead horse here but there are also a lot of videos on Tag submissions and how to. They even have a submission kit that helps you complete with penny sleeves.

Some examples
https://youtube.com/shorts/9GXRG6pRBr4

https://youtube.com/shorts/NW7mxSAchH8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iavvHweS4CA

Regarding the first link, I don't recommend only that digital ai scanning tool. Try to use as many (reliable) apps that you can and aim for cards that potentially get a good price in contrast to the submission cost you're sending. Unfortunately I don't provide grades for Tag right now even though it's a good second alternative, only because everyone has hedged PSA grading as the defacto unit of worth a shit in the market and I'm kind of forced to do PSA as a result of this. Tag cards just don't have the same value (most of the time, not all the time) compared to PSA at 10s and 9s but exceptions to this rule does exist.

If you're ok with Tag and don't intent to break the slab and resend or cross certify with PSA, do it. If you're intending to use it to determine if PSA will give the same grade, your experience will vary and won't be smooth or equivalent. Some "restoration" professionals try to restore cards (which is controversial and risky to begin with) after grading with Tag to know what flaws they need to fix so they can get a PSA 10. Don't recommend it
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>>62883419
>>62884661
>>62884687
Thx for the answers bros, didn't expect so much quality posts.
Where do you guys check for price then? I use pricecharting and cardmarket sometimes.
Same for pop reports, I just check how many are on ebay and mabye the pricecharting pop report, but seems unreliable

>>62883419
30th set I'm waiting to crash some more honestly, if it's to flip you'll have to wait some time. When a pigga opens a pack these days it's straight to PSA
But I always buy the cards that look sick, latest Rayquaza is amazing imo

>>62884687
thx pikaniga, I feel wholesome 2020 WAGMI off of you
Do you have TG?

Since we're talking slabs tho check out this beaut, machamp 1997, again lads are saying 150$ but i'd never sell
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>>62885592
nice machamp
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>>62885592
>Where do you guys check for price then? I use pricecharting and cardmarket sometimes.
>Same for pop reports, I just check how many are on ebay and mabye the pricecharting pop report, but seems unreliable
I do custom and accurate analytics (done by hand, used to work in BI before corporate incompetence laid people off) using historical data off most Pokemon Cards in English and Japanese; offer the real price of these slabs as a service over at xmr bazaar. The only reason I began this was for personal reasons because I felt like the current standards were always off and not up to par when vending small raw cards at shows for families. Sites like Cardladder multiplies old comps against a broader player index change which results in values that are artificial based on hype with no real sales backing. The math models also can break down completely where people spot a higher grade being worth less than a lower grade despite pop parity. Collectr actively scrapes the "Buy It Now" listings and mixes it with real data causing an inflated portfolio. Pricecharting and other similar sites also have issues with AI hallucinating stuff and overlooking.

I constantly saw people low balling others and getting ripped off in the rest just because some guy wants to use recent comps or some inaccurate app so I'm offering to let people know the fair market price of the card the very day they want to buy or sell it for a low price (lower if they're broke or need a discount for financial reasons). When I'm here or over xmr general, it's easier to just provide a price of the slab at the moment in these threads for free because most aren't familiar with this sort of thing and to get some traction and trust going. It also helps that I only get a request for one card every other day so I don't mind giving the price of the requested slab on here.
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>>62885770
thats cool anon
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got this one for 5k hope its a good deal
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>>62886987
Wait, is that real? Wtf
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>>62887223
misty > charizard
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I never post here. I just wanted to say that in 1999 my parents brought me at the local market for my birthday, and told me i could pick the card i wanted. The 3 rarest ones were a venusaur, q charizard and a blastoise, all priced at 50.000 lire (25€). Guess what that 8 year old piece of shit picked?
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>>62888580
rip
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>>62888580
Who cares about the price italbro, at least you got a nice memory with that card. Keep it
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>>62885770
thx bro, mabye when I'm not an omegapleb i'll solicit you.
Btw what's the deal with ZEC since you're into xmr things? isn't monero better in every way? and isn't ZEC led by actual trannies/ got hacked and no one confirmed how much

Also where are you fags ripping? collectorcrypt type deals
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>>62885458
>how do you unload a collection
Nah, I meant how do you sell it without getting 50% tcgplayer low with everything being graded HP by the local card shop.

My experience trying to sell a lot of first edition stuff that went straight into a binder has been quite harrowing. I wanted to sell it two months ago but by the time I figured it out, I am starting to feel like I missed the boat.

Hold until February then just list on facebook marketplace and piece them all out bit by bit until I'm tired of selling one card at a time for ~$market and then unload them on a vendor for 60%?
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You guys inspired me to collect an entire complete set for the first time. I'm starting with the Scarlet / Violet 151 set, because I have a few sealed product worth.



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