Crypto is dead. I've been a 100% eth baggie for so long now, completely married to my bags believing in all of these stupid made up narratives that would "send eth to $10k" and in the past couple weeks ive realized finally it is never ever going to happen. No "tokenization" no more money coming in, nothing. Ethereum does nothing. It is a science project made by a group of assholes sniffing their own farts. It will never be adopted for anything. It will never go up in value. I'm actually so fucking god damn depressed to even sell it all id rather just ride it straight to fucking $0. I've wasted the absolutely best investing years of my life being married to this piece of shit and I'm now fucked beyond belief. Just going to dump my money in $voo until the end of time. Dont be like me. Dont marry your investments and learn from my mistakes
wdym you can use eth and btc to buy things right now
Crypto was dead for a long time. I only visit /biz/ nowadays for stocks and AI bubble status.
>>62880974Oh come on. Do you mean to tell me all those webms of 45 year old men waving their hands and talking about the future of tardlink, retardple and polkatard aren't thoroughly convincing? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU
>>62880974>I finally realized crypto is deadBetter late than never. I got the hint that it was dead back around 2023. 2024 did OK thanks to the manipulation going on but all the signs of a dead crypto market were still there (scams, fake volume / heavy wash trading, low sentiment, low engagement, etc). 2025 it was officially over. It's sad to see baggies in 2026, soon to be 2027, still vehemently defending crypto
>>62881016But bro, haven't you seen all the PARTNERSHIP ANNOUNCEMENTS??!! And the tokenization! Oh the sweet tokenization!
holy bottom signal
>>62880974ETH already went 5000x since 2015 but you think it can’t go 5x now?>>62880999The AI bubble popped a few months ago already, now it keeps on deflating correction after correction.
>>62880974The fundamental issue is that as long as you don't sell, then there is still hope, you don't have to admit defeat.Defeat is a bitter pill to swallow, especially when the alternative is "i wasn't wrong, i was just early. A winner all along".I abandoned crypto for similar reasons, now i find myself in a near identical situation with stocks. Basically all in on one stock and this is not going well, nothing is going well, and idk.. I just can't take that L, not now, have to spend some time chewing on it first.
>>62881016>crypto is deadCrypto is just an asset class, it’s like saying "stocks are dead" because you invested in dreadful penny stocks.
>>62881040he means the constans faggott flow in 21 and the solana kumars and yay etfs and now we have a totally flat zero volume at the weekend, when a fucking vidyacard company dood cheating his wife and this shit dumps, because jews totally captured it finance wisely, and slowly the nodes too with glownig gaylord and glownig tom ree
>>62880974also an eth baggie and coming to terms with the fact that I'm not going to make it. Why the fuck didn't I sell back in 2025? I knew something was wrong a year ago last November when ETH dipped back below 4k, but I didn't react. I feel like shit
>>62881050one of my first be ralization was when gorillions of etf flows came in and it didnt pump shit, and we even had a shitty alt szn when one alt pumped the kumar exit liq hunters flow into the biz and started shilling it meanwhile the total crypto cap shrinked or stayed flat due to zero new liquidity inflow, literally the same fake shit tether and usdc from one shitcoin to the another, ZERO FUCKING NEW RETAIL EXPOSURE since 21!
I'm not even a crypto baggie, but do you guys not know what a halvening is?
>>628810305x is impossible this time around because there are way more chains than active project using the chain itself, much tighter regulation against crypto, and that AI consistently raising the threat for both the chain and the project itself. This isn't 2015 anymore. The dust has settled and now become clear that nothing left here.
>>62881060*realization
>>62881062eth issuance got triple halved in sept of 2022, check the ethbtc chart since then!
>>62881074its literally the 8th consequitive week in the red again.....
crypto was an iq test and the results are in, ladies and gentlemen
>>62881082btw 2026 is still bear year, but i WAY lowered my expectations!
>>62881035Crypto acts as stocks but higher beta. If there's spare money around, some goes into crypto because it's fun when it goes up.The real bitter pill is going to be swallowed by the VOO baggies for the next 10 years. Stocks can stagnate too, people forgot that in the last decade.
>>62881093Yeah i feelnthat too, the cattle is so trained into buying le 1-2% "dips" because numba always goes up in the shitpiss500 that this next big crash will be quite funny.
>>62880974What a nice looking young man. I bet he loves life and his mother.
>>62880974>Crypto is deadYou just figured that out 57 minutes ago,
>>62881113The next crash is going to be horrific. We've never been in an era when so many ordinary people were invested. It's created a whole new class of systemic risk.A stock downturn will turn off consumer spending like a tap and turn a crash into a recession. Millions of retail investors with automated 401k contributions panic and try to cash out at the same time. Let alone the political pressure to intervene whenever the market drops to save everyone's retirement.
>>62881030The bubble has not and will not pop for quite some time.
>>62881040>NFTs are just an asset classYou are stating technically correct things.
>>62880974Why did this guy kill himself?I never heard the actual story.
>>62881267If I remember correctly he had really bad PTSD from being in the army and his mom told him to fuck off. He then killed himself.
>>62881334Dang...
>>62880974eth is a weird cult
>>62881368I could have the story completely wrong but yea, it's messed up. The worst part is that he killed himself on Facebook live.
>>62881368Look up the Suicide of Ronnie McNutt
>>62881402>As the stream went on, McNutt's cell phone rang frequently. The last call he received was from his girlfriendstopped reading right there, fuck this normie, dropped
>>62880974So I've seen about 100+ threads almost identical to this one over the past year.I really don't get it. What made you retards all think investing money into literally bullshit digital pyramid schemes was the way to go?And why now do you want to swap one scheme for another?Why won't you just invest in commodities like land or metals, or oil? Something you can actually own for real?You're all mental and irresponsible, and I don't feel sorry for you until you get mental help.Seriously are you all trannies, or women?You must be to have a mind this detached from reality, and hating anything realistic in nature.
>>62881577>Something you can actually own for real?you don't "own" any of the shit you listed "for real".it's either commodity-flavored tickers going up and down, or stuff that is actually owned by the leviathan state
>>62881647I own my gold and silver. The fuck are you talking about, tard?You can also own real land and oil, although storing oil would be stupid I admit.You're even more retarded for missing the point.All you cryptards are living in delusional fantasy land like a bunch of daydreaming anime trannies instead of investing in something real.Like you just got finished watching the matrix as a 13 year old or something. It's fucking embarrassing and you should feel retarded when it collapses around you.
>>62880974ETH holders: "Hey guys, I guess that's it."
>>628809742016-2021 was really the era of crypto. I pity anyone that didnt ride the waves.
>>62880974We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run. If you truly understood Ethereum you wouldn't be making this thread.
>>62880974Relatable. If my main investment does a 100x I can finally retire with what I had when I started.
>>62881027Desu
>>62880974obviouslynever put your money into things that most people don't care about
>>62881078Brutal. Total ETH humiliation.
>>62881193They’ll never let it go down again. They’d take hyperinflation over a massive market correction. Line is not allowed to go down anymore and you know it. As soon as it starts going down, or if it crashes dramatically, they’ll turn on the money printer until your money isn’t worth shit. But they’ll do anything to maintain stock prices.
>>62880974>>62880999>>62881016This place was insufferable 8 years ago, when it almost entirely just crypto shilling/fudding. Glad to see people are finally wising up.>>62881035At least with stocks, there's an underlying business, so there's always hope the business fundamentals will improve (new product, new CEO, new demand, industry consolidation) and the stock will recover.No such hope with crypto.It's even worse b/c at least with a commodity, like copper or uranium, there's always a chance of new demand or suppliers going out of business, resulting in a shortage causing the price to spike.
>>62881035You are too sentimental, there is no winning or losing, it’s just a matter of capital allocation. Your investment dwindled, now you have to decide if the remaining sum is better allocated here or elsewhere. Having feelings for your investments won’t help you to make that decision.
>>62881258Just look at the charts for Sandisk, Marvell, Micron, SK Hynix, etc. They all peaked in June and lost 50% or 60% since then. The bubble has already popped but the market is in denial about it because it’s only the first stage (the broader market is not "contaminated" yet, there are no dramatic news about the collapse of a major company, etc.). But that’s how a bubble pop works. It takes several months, sometimes even more than one year, to realize it’s actually happening.
>>62881888Crypto has an underlying tool and that tool is improving too (new devs, new features, new use cases, etc.). At least for serious projects. Even a boomer coin like LTC is improving with its MWEB extension that enables privacy, for example.
How new are you faggots?Every bear market you retards proclaim its dead, no shit, interest in crypto completely dies in a bear market, every fucking timeSee you next time
>>62880974eth is manipulated to such a jewish level it's insane, it literally is NOT allowed to go up and sustain its moves, any move up and you instantly see some fat whale nigger start setting up walls in the order books to push it back down
>>62881888>At least with stocks, there's an underlying businesseven stocks have been utterly fucked in the past year, anything that isn't AI got left behind, liquidity exited to be dumped into tech, company fundamentals stopped meaning anything
>>62880974I went from 30k to 300k to 3k. Lots of internal screaming while I walk around with the poker face.
>>62881027Hush
>>62880974tokenization will happen, just not on eth public blockchain lmao. its been 10 years and still zero real world business use of eth blockchain.
>>62881952>it's just a 5 year bear market bro, 2 more weeksholy cope
>>62881952>every bear market is the same!>see you next time!There wont be a next time. To be honest desu, and I hate to say this, you're going to be one of the ones who kys themselves when you come to the realization that crypto is in fact dead. You're too emotionally invested into.
>>62882232the thing with it is people realised how utterly kiked it is, retail fucked off and institutions are largely left trading amongst themselves, they're STILL buying, but their manipulation efforts are so intense that no real person has any interest in holding spot when out of nowhere they slap their algos to the nasdaq on its worst days and make crypto plummet 30% in 2 months when equities rally with no end
>>62882261I agree. People thought that jews getting more involved with crypto was somehow a good thing
>>62881952This is the same cope from the Fax guys after the dot com bubble burst hoping they'd be back on top.
>>62882362eth lost about 7% yesterday on the nvidia news, not even nvidia crashed that amount, and the rest of the market remained greenvolatility in crypto used to be a good thing, you'd have these insane drawdowns but there'd be so many quick recoveries, it meant there was opportunity; now the volatility is largely on the downside, there are no recoveries, no V shapes, just a bit of consolidation before another leg down, they might scam wick up 1 or 2% but that's largely just the usual leverage trapweekends used to be fun in crypto, now for the most part they're just dojis because algos keep a solid wall up until the markets open again
>>62881947>Crypto has an underlying tool and that tool is improving too (new devs, new features, new use cases, etc.). At least for serious projectsIt turns out that there is no such thing as a serious crypto project. Utility projects ultimately turned out to be the biggest memecoins. I still have old tg channels saved and they still have twitter raids, pins about "updates", "devs" talking about how they have the final solution for all of cryptos problems, baggies asking about marketing, etc. Literally no one outside of these groups care. All the narratives have been played out. There is nothing left and even then, the crypto space is too controlled like the other anons are saying.
>>62880974Did you remember to invest in yourself, anon?That's the real tragedy of all this shit. People forget they're born.
I have a vicious short on bnb so I hope for ny sake, doomer op is correct and not a fag for once.
Right on time!
>>62880974AI came along for grifters to talk about.
>>62880974>Crypto is deadAgreed - Bitcoin isn't.
>>62882810>Bitcoin isn'tit cannot hold a single green candle anymore; this is week SIX of red candles despite nothing actually happening to crypto specifically>cpi who cares?>claritywho cares?>aino correlation
>>62882822There is no point arguing. Let them sell at 10k or whatever.
>>62881888Stocks values are fake as shit
>>62882838the funny thing is i have exposure to this market but even i can see the reality here; this market has no future if there is no ability for it to grow if algos and institutions make it follow every US economic event despite never providing it the upside exposure it seeseth and btc fell more than nvidia, on nvidia news! the rest of the market was green, how does that make sense? how is that a healthy asset to invest in?
>>62881040
>>62881940Kek thanks for confirming the status is not popped, you fucking retard.
this is the deathknell, ETH to a flat $1,000 soon
>>62883198>down 30% in under two months
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/1xf3bpn/why_has_ethereum_been_so_disappointing_5_years_of/expecting a currency to grow like equity... what's wrong witchu? what's wrong with yall? you niggas are crazy!
>>62883299even most equities have done fuck all this year, unless it was AI related
>>62881940>the bubble popped>>62883068>thanks for confirming it's not popped, retard
>>62883198ETH is a double digit shitcoin.
>>62883634Every redditor has been screaming for 3 years "it popped" because they're full of fake jobs like swe or artist and think they'll get their job back if AI goes away. It's like the scene where the joker says things aren't going back the way they were.But more importantly to the "retards calling for the sky to fall are retarded" argument, the reality is if you look at IPOs and companies buying it becomes obvious it's not an "AI bubble"You have-The datacenter boom (2022-present, needs gpu and ram and ssds to function)-The upcoming quantum boom (qram is in the design phase, IBM just showed off their prototype quantum computer, it needs normal ram until qram is in production)-The humanoid robot boom (NEO wants to sell 210,000 robots in 2027-2028 and expand production, tesla wants to sell 600,000 and expand production, samsung has boston dynamics and will sell hundreds of thousands and ALL OF THIS needs SSDs/Nand in huge quantities to function)-the 3d printer boom where 3dprintbots are refined and can just print a whole 1 story house in 2 hours and print meat and guns-The sexbot boomWe are coming up on a massive industrial revolution in which computer hardware will be the currency.most importantly is that a lot of their models rely on selling neocloud processing power and renting out hardware, so they're going to keep buying all the hardware to keep it in shrt supply so fucking goyim like you pay them to rent space to play your videogames or whatever.The retards thinking it just "goes away" are retarded.
>>62883634>>62883687Oh and basically if that was too confusing for your brain- they're planning on keeping hardware sold out for years and AI neoclouds are only going to expand and double in profitability every 2 years from here so there's no going back, the bubble is going to get bigger from here not pop the instant some brown politician cries on twitter about data centers.
>>62880974> I've been a 100% eth baggie for so long now, completely married to my bags believing in allYou put all your money in a centralized, proof of stake (literally POS) token, that can be printed on a whim when Bitcoin is literally right there.Compare how much value ETH lost in Satoshi and just do what the guy in your jpg did.
>>62881265>moving goal postsNFTs are a scam, you don't have to have even large enough iq to see it. NFTs are NOT an asset class. The same as your baseball cards. Baseball cards are not an asset class.Crypto WILL be an asset class.
>>62882372>weekends used to be fun in crypto, now for the most part they're just dojis because algos keep a solid wall up until the markets open againOk , great that you see this.WHY do you think algos and the bots... >and who has the largest bots? OH BlackrockSo why do algos and bots KEEP entire crypto niche RED? What type of psyop is this? WHY.
>>62880999This
>>62881940>>62881258>>62881030the factory i work at has just this year started making parts for two new customers strictly for data center shit, with a new building we are building just to do more volume over the next 2 years for data center components. the bubble hasnt even begun to pop
>>62881093>Crypto acts as stocks but higher betaactually it doesn't. its only beta to the downside. so when stocks go down crypto goes down a lot more. stocks going up has no effect on cryptoclearest example of this is yesterday's PA and today's PA, but its frequent.
>>62883068>hummmm we're just down 60%, everything is fine, chud>>62883687Completely unrelated blah blah blah. That's not the argument. We're only talking about the stock prices.
>>62882395>It turns out that there is no such thing as a serious crypto project.This is what 2024-cyclers like you think because their entire exposure to crypto is memecoins. But I understand why many people feel this way, especially if they joined crypto in the past 4 years, because nothing interesting has happened IN YEARS besides prediction markets and perp dexes. It's been only memecoins, which isn't a sustainable market. Stuff is happening but it's not on the radar of solano zoomers. Real stablecoin and RWA infra takes a long time to build because regulations and TradFi companies are slow. Much of this progress is not visible and some of it isn't even public because these are competing public companies. I think it's funny how in 2017 cryptobros were excited about the tech while instis and Wall Street thought it's all a scam, and now it's the opposite, retarded retail screaming it's a scam while Wall Street bids and instis build. This isn't even the bear market talking, same sentiment existed during bull when Trump memecoin happened. Anyway, people who understand what the tech is capable of aren't worried and instead see an opportunity at these prices.
>>62884636>it's all low key broand you know all this... how?
are guys so retarded that you don't realize that markets aren't going to in the weeks leading up to an election? the s&p literally had TWO blocks of three months of sideways back to back this year.
>>62884657Google or ask your AI about Project Faro and Open USD and tell it to give you links to public info. There is nothing beyond an announcement.
>>62880974Why didn't you stake? Why didn't you trade? Did you know that you could sell covered calls on your ETH and get some yield during crab and bear markets? You're just a lazy moonboy retard.>>62881888>there's an underlying businessThe underlying business of crypto is crime, embargo circumvention, cheap store of value, cheap and immediate transfer of value, and relatively unregulated finance.Crypto will never go away, it is here to stay.
>>62881016Crypto went through its own dotcom bubble. The dotcom bubble didn't kill the bigger names, I think the crypto "dotcom bubble" killed every crypto except bitcoin. Eth will never moon, neither will xrp, chainlink and all the other garbage altcoins. But BTC has been institutionnalised. I think we'll keep seeing the entire market bleed until BTC is basically the only remaining store of value. Crypto will be remembered as this weird era of cheap investments, and the only token that will remain will be the OG, btc
>>62881086Just like your parents did after you reached puberty
>>62884946Gee I’ve never heard this before wow you are so smart you must be the smartest nigger on your block
>>62884946>entire market bleed until BTC is basically the only remaining store of valueEventually ETH will surpass BTC as store of value. Halvings will become a problem for hashrate and many miners are already converting to AI data centers. Ethereum PoS is secure far into the future with equally low inflation as today's Bitcoin, or even lower as we saw in 2022-2024. Development of Bitcoin has basically stopped (Taproot was 5 years ago, SegWit was 9 years ago) and any change that requires a hard fork, for example requiring post quantum signatures and moving away from ECDSA/Schnorr or changing coin economics to secure the chain, will never have enough support and will only split the users. Ethereum development is active and there's a clear roadmap for PQ signatures. People say Bitcoin is more secure because it never makes any changes but because of quantum and reducing miner rewards it's actually the opposite because both of these require a hard fork (PQ sigs + consensus mechanism change or adding tail issuance). Ethereum is objectively better positioned to be a store of value than Bitcoin.
>>62885158>Eventually ETH will surpass BTC as store of value
>>62885239>no arguments
>>62885158>>62885264He doesn't need to make any arguments because what you said is retarded. Well done for outing yourself as a clown as well.
>>62885355>He doesn't need to make any arguments because what you said is retarded. Kek wanted to post the same thingI feel sorry for anyone who still believes in crapto. Maybe its because of being underwater... I cant really imagine still drinking the koolaid but I understand clinging to hopes and dreams as a baggie. It hurt me a lot, and I was able to exit breakeven in oct 2025 at the pico top. Btc was $123k. It took me 4 years just to claw back to break even. Yes I could have just bought bitcoin and made some gains. But the veil has been pierced there too. It will never be used for anything. It will slowly bleed to $0 as xillennials put their dreams to rest. All the years I wasted on crypto and all I got for it was breakeven. But thats still better than probably >90% of participants.
>>62884636>Anyway, people who understand what the tech is capable of aren't worriedKek the only thing crapto is useful for is allowing third worlders to hold usdt fugazi notes, guess thats very reassuring! Hodl, champ
>>62880974Jews freemason Zionist communist ball earth day liar gaytheist follow suit heretics apostates be damned
>>62885355>>62885397>>62885408Narrative follows price... and wallah, suddenly a retarded baggie turns into a genius whale who had patience and conviction. I can see how these 50 days of correction are making anons emotional. Some handle it better than others.
>>62884636>in 2017 cryptobros were excited about the tech while instis and Wall Street thought it's all a scam, and now it's the opposite, retarded retail screaming it's a scam while Wall Street bidsThe techfags were always the minority. Maybe not in the very beginning but by 2017 that was certainly the case. Bitcoin became a speculative asset where most people were only interested in the potential to make money. That's all anyone cares about anymore Whether it's retail, Wall Street, institutions or anything else.
>>62880974You can take solace that XRP baggies are twice as dumb as you.
>>62881027fr fr no cap
>>62885699>Narrative follows price...Until it doesnt. All the conviction in the world wont help you when the last sucker has been scammed. This , ahem, 'asset class', has burned almost everyone who dared to invest in it. There simply isn't an infinite supply of people who will fall for it. Everyone I knew who was interested in 2021 completely faded crypto in 2024-2025 because they'd been totally rekt. Those people are never coming back. Me neither. There's just no more koolaid to drink.
>>62886118Just do stocks if you can't crypto. No shame in that.
>>62880974>Crypto is dead.It isn't, but - perhaps even worse to all warped attention span zoomies - it only takes off again in mid 2028.
>>62885750>Bitcoin became a speculative asset where most people were only interested in the potential to make moneyYea and only insiders and very few others will make any significant money. It became way too pvp and greed took over. Now all it is is a bunch of bots, richfags, and degens gambling. That's the reality of it>>62886118I think that's an important thing to point out. Not even btc and eth hitting ath caused any mass fomo or hype. The sentiment is worse now than it's ever been. At least back then, people assumed crypto was a scam or thought it was useless. Now everyone knows it is. The only way to get people involved is to force it into society, which I think ended up being a flop with the whole cbdc thing
>>62886118Yes, but have you considered>"oracles">a chart of randocoin with schizo "prediction" lines drawn all over it>8 webms and 4 paragraphs of technobabble about chainlinkI still waffle between wanting to try and break people out of crypto for their own futures and just fucking hating them because they're so needlessly stubborn.
>>62885158If you've been into crypto long enough you know very well that tech doesn't matter at all, otherwise Monero would be number 1, and fucking DOGE wouldn't have mooned to much. The only thing that matters in crypto is hype and recognizion. ETH will never ever surpass BTC because BTC is the OG and everyone on earth knows about it, simple as'
>>62887023Honestly faggots like you being so smug and thinking you’ve been right all along about bitcoin is by far the most annoying thing about crypto bear markets. Bitcoin is $75k and it’s in an absolute multi year bear market and yet you, being the retarded faggot that you, smugly think you’ve been right about “crapto” this whole time. I have truly never witnessed such hubris and stupidity molded together so much outside of Reddit in my life. You fucking nigger.
>>62885120Oh wow, thank you anon!
Never believed in crypto (excluding BTC from that), it's a purely emotional rollercoaster of pumps and dumps that relies on poor judgment... and look at the new gen of kids. We're going to see new heights fueled by ADHD brains.
>>62887145We have been right about crypto all along. It's worthless. You got some speculative highs, ala tulip-mania. But that's all it'll ever be.
>>62887209I would beat the shit out of you if you said this to me irl.
>>62887023kek>>62887145>Bitcoin is $75k andIt's not $75k because people love it so much. It's $75k for various reasons. First it is a gigantic prisoners dilemma ponzi scheme that the big fish cant easily get out of without crashing their own paper NW. Second it has become a gigantic liquidation concentration camp for virtual nostradamuses who think they know the future. Of course it it's a slow bleed. As soon as it it profitable to rek shorts, they'll pump the thin orderbook. As soon as it's profitable to rek longs, they dump it. Rinse and repeat. Third is the passive 60 IQ bid from morons who fell for Fink's brainwash and passively DCA into a useless asset. All this would likely be impossible without automatic flows. Big fish slowly handing off their bags to the last suckers in the room. Now this is going to sound like ai but I'll say it anyway, 75k is not a testament to how good bitcoin is, its just a symptom of all its plagues and diseases.
>>62887235Badass detected.
>>62887131>eth vs btcIt's all the same "token not needed" bullshit. Btc isn't digital gold, and even the whole concept of paying "gas fees" is retarded lol. Everyone knowing about btc means nothing if no one gives a fuck about it. Both of those are artificially being propped up. The price and volume are fake.
We are so dead guys
>>62881758>We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long runquotes like this just turn people into terminal bagholders
>>62883687That's cool, so where do my Chainlink tokens come into all this?Oh dear...
>>62887131>tech doesn't matter at allSomewhat agree, hype and inflows are more important for price, but the tech needs to be good enough for the coin to function for example look at Terra (LUNA) collapse. Big players buying a store of value will 100% look into the tech and evaluate risks. A digital store of value needs a secure blockchain and if nothing changes Bitcoin will have serious issues after enough halvings because BTC price at these marketcaps can't match the exponential pace of halvings i.e miner revenue will go down over time -> hashrate drops -> chain security drops.>>62888820True. Anyone left holding 100% ETH has either crazy amount of conviction or is deep into sunk cost fallacy. Both the same baggies holding the most cursed coin.
theres some serious hate from the establishment towards this asset class but they realize they cant stop it so theyre trying to do everything possible to stall its adaption. the real sad part is crypto is going to be controled by the very institutions it was created to replace. but thats just as much as the average npc being financially retarded.
>>62889263>crypto>store of valueI get that bitcoin is larping as a digital version of gold, but cmon man...
>>62889873>but cmon man...Broo, like, duude for real for real.
>>62890257Why do you believe it's a good store of value, and do you believe it is digital gold?
>>62892369Good crypto like BTC and ETH has all the properties of a store of value: scarce and verifiable supply, divisible, durable, fungible, portable, cheap and safe to store, impossible to counterfeit, liquid, seizure resistant, no counterparties. If we compare it to gold it scores better in some, and worse in some:>scarce and verifiable supplyCrypto issuance or supply can be changed with a hard fork but in the case of BTC and ETH it's very likely this fork would be rejected (unless it had some extremely good reason, like chain security). It's still worse compared to gold, which is secured by laws of physics (fusion only creates tiny amounts and isn't economically sound, asteroid mining is sci-fi). Gold supply can only be estimated while crypto supply (and future issuance) can be verified. Anyway both are scarce and have low inflation.>divisibleBTC can be divided to 8 decimals, ETH to 18. Measuring $0.001 worth of gold is hard, but it's still divisible.>durableThis is the hardest one. If crypto works as designed it's very durable. You can send it to a wrong or a burn address to destroy it but if used correctly it doesn't decay or go bad. But the network it's on needs to function correctly for it to continue to exist and be transferable. I've spammed /biz/ for some time about the security budget issue of Bitcoin, how it needs inflation to stay secure and the huge drawback of limited supply on an asset that's paying about $10B annually in electricity to stay secure. Gold as an inert metal is obviously durable.>fungibleEach unit of BTC or ETH are worth the same with tiny exceptions. A coin linked to an exchange hack could be worth less than a coin that has not moved since it was mined. With privacy added the history of a coin doesn't matter. Gold is an element and obviously fungible.>portableCrypto wins here bigly. Transferring is cheap and unstoppable. It's digital, global and borderless. Gold is physical but at least value dense. 1/2
>>62894194>cheap and safe to storeCrypto is "stored" on 32 bytes of data and this data can be stored either physically or digitally. The portability of crypto makes it very easy to steal, especially if it's online. Gold storage is obvious.>impossible to counterfeitCrypto wins again bigly. Software wallets trivially recognize real coins. Gold needs tests with special equipment to see if a bar has a tungsten core.>liquidGold is most liquid, then BTC, and finally ETH. The size of the market is obvious if you look at the market caps. ETH has the added benefit of being able to be bought and sold inside its own network.>seizure resistantA win for crypto again. The 32 bytes of data can be secured in multiple ways and more layers of security can be added compared to physical gold. You can hide it in plain sight, you can share it in multiple places and/or pieces, you can memorize it, you can add a password etc.>no counterpartiesThey work without counterparties. If something happens to Bitcoin Core devs or the Ethereum client teams you could use an old version of software or switch to a different client. Gold is obvious.2/2
>>62880974They are selling crypto to hedge for their bubble stonks loses.
Crypto isn't an investment commodity. It's currency chief
- 1. Standard Chartered — Ethereum at $40,000 by 2030. Geoff Kendrick, the bank's Global Head of Digital Assets Research, forecasts ETH reaching $40,000 by the end of 2030. He identifies stablecoins, tokenized real-world assets and DeFi as major growth drivers. Source: CoinDesk, January 2026 .- 2. VanEck — Ethereum at $22,000 by 2030 (base case). Research led by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research, projects Ethereum could generate $66 billion in annual free cash flow accruing to ETH holders, supporting a $2.2 trillion valuation. Source: VanEck research, June 2024 .- 3. McKinsey — $2 trillion tokenized financial assets by 2030. McKinsey's research estimates tokenized assets could reach $2 trillion by 2030, with a $4 trillion bullish scenario. It identifies bonds, funds, loans and securitization as major opportunities. Source: McKinsey research .- 4. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink — Every stock and bond could eventually be tokenized. Fink has publicly argued that tokenization is the next generation of financial-market infrastructure, potentially bringing financial assets onto a common digital ledger. Source: McKinsey, quoting Larry Fink .
