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when will AI become profitable
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>>62895758
AI is profitable... for the user. it really makes no sense for middleman AI companies to exist
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>>62895758
Once the AI companies feel enough businesses using AI have fired their employees and are locked in to using their AI products. Then the AI companies will jack up the prices and the businesses will have no other option but to pay up big time or die. Probably a few years.
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>>62895798
this
no way they are going to re-hire a bunch of people once their entire manufacturing process is automated

and that being said, buy IREN and profit from being the one that owns the compute with renewable energy so safe from dems as they take the whitehouse

its the obvious 10x of this cycle
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they're already raking in cash with the worst possible revenue model there will ever be. nobody knows exactly when or what they will come up with but if you think the pre-beginning is the end you're the dumbest human alive
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>>62895758
>Pay cursor $20 a month
>Receive an army of grokbot employees who work tirelessly around the clock doing whatever I want

Well, it's profitable for me, and for the hypothetical me who knows how to use it more effectively than I do
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>>62896225
I don't see it happening that they can't just buy their own hardware and its cheaper. The only way api access makes sense is if they couldn't "use" a card 24/7 so the same one could be used by some other company. But that realistically would mean that "work ends" for one company or they don't have some sort of future vision or need constant human monitoring which is not what businesses have wanted at all.
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>>62896530
>they're already raking in cash
And spending more than they rake in. That's what "not profitable" means , anon.
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>>62896573
every successful tech company started the same way. you are literally the dumbest human alive. it starts by spending tons to build while slowly evolving a revenue stream. things not happening like this is an extreme outlier
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>>62896589
except AI is effectively a commodity already, and will become more and more so
that's why Sam "you dont need more ram" altman wants to have regulations in place
No way to make money on inference when deepseek is only 6 months behind and there's no way to gate your users
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>>62896589
>>every successful tech company started the same way.
lol

I read this exact same disinfo weeks ago, somebody comparing it to Amazon

the same Amazon that spent money building out a profitable business, then refusing to take profits and instead plowing everything back into the business

these AI companies aren't doing that, they are simply running up costs that far exceed their earnings potential and then ask for more handouts from investors to make up the difference

they have no realistic plans

no, "just give us more electricity than the US grid can actually produce!" isn't a plan
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>>62896530
>>62896589
you have it backwards anon, this is the most favorable environment the industry will ever have and it is both unprofitable and drowning in debt. the AI industry right now makes no sense from a business perspective
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>>62896530
lol lmao
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>>62896629
yeah k you're delusional saying nuh uh to how things work is the definition of delusion. if a tech company came to the market fully fleshed out with a perfect revenue model it would be highly sus and investors would think it's some kind of Chinese plant.
>>62896637
t. retard
>>62896641
not an argument

idk why you bother making these topics you're a delusional anti ai faggot probably going to lose your job and are desperately trolling the internet for any lead you can spam on zitter in a last ditch effort to trick people into your delusion get a life nobody is buying it loser
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>>62896629
Well amazon had a network effect. That type of thing *may* be dead if proprietary software starts dying, although we've seen tons of FOSS or web3 competitors just get ignored before.
>>62896589
I think the point hes making is that anyone could switch to another ai company at any time. The money they spend doesn't effictively build them up with anything, it just creates a hole a new competitor won't have.
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>>62896662
one or a short list of ai's will win that doesn't mean ai won't be profitable it means there will be winners that are the future of the world and its economy.
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>>62896637
Ai companies now: waste money on training proprietary models, waste money on building new datacenters.
I could see an industry definitely lasting but it would be just renting already existing hardware/infra and using open models. But it would be more like the laundery industry companies breaking even at cost.
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>fire everybody and replace them with jeets/AI
>nobody has a job
>nobody can afford your goods and services
this seems like a bad long-term business decision
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>>62896684
It doesn't necessarily have to be profitable though just like everyone uses calculator or podcasting apps but they are all essentiall interchangable, always getting advancements, but nobodies paying for them, or at least nobodies making bank on them.
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>>62896706
Not really. If no one has to work to survive we'd all be happier. If the unemployed class really can't break into the economy they can just trade services with each other without worrying about their customers affording to switch to ai.



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