Rye is the best but not the Kentucky rye bs you put in the op. I’m looking to get a bottle of sagamore cs today but I’ve only been able to find the new stuff. The old cs that was made with mgp distillate was too good.

>>22024328
KC 10 year Rye was fantastic.

>>22024251
THE BEST WHISKEY IS THE WHISKEY YOU HAVE IN YOUR GLASS, BABY

>>22024347
Unless it's Johnnie Walker.

kanpai

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Let me guess, you need more?

>>22025625
>Let me guess, you need actual flavor?
Yes.

For me? It’s classic laddie

>>22025649
I almost bought a bottle today. How firs it compare to Laphroaig?

>>22025716
It’s unpeated so basically nothing like laphroaig, more like a basic entry level 12 year like glenfiddich or glenlivet, but it is islay. More character I find, really I just go for it because it’s actually a decent proof at 50 abv so it’s my go to for any cocktails involving unpeated scotch

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>>22025771
>cocktails

>>22025771
Oh ok glad I didn’t buy it then.

>>22024347
holy based
>>22025649
I’m drinking a glass of it right now. On vacation and found some for a steal at costco, unfortunate cause I found glengoyne and some other whiskey (forget which) at a subsequent total wine that I can’t get in my flyover but I’m already saddled up. Oh well at least it’s tasty

>>22025864
I drink a cocktail maybe 1 out of 30 pours but it’s nice to have an option that doesn’t get smothered by the other ingredients

>>22025625
It's really easy drinking, sweet and fruity and mellow. But then again so is cheaper Irish whiskey like Tullamore Dew.

>>22025625
Apparently so. I tried Monkey Shoulder when I was trying to get into scotch, and I was really underwhelmed by it. If a $30 entry-level bottle is that disappointing, I'll just stick to bourbon.

>>22028978
Try Johnnie Black or a peated single malt like Wee Beastie if you want something very different from bourbon

>>22028978
>>22029044
>Try Johnnie Black
Don't do this. It's just as bland and disappointing as Monkey Shoulder.

>>22028978
Bourbon is way more consistent. There are very few awful bottles of bourbon. Scotch is all over the place and there are a bunch of terrible shit out there and it’s all overpriced in the us especially when most of it is 80 proof. I am getting into scotch a little bit but unlike bourbon or rye I will never just roll the dice on the bottle. There are some good scotches but if I haven’t tried it at a bar or something I don’t buy it.

>>22029087
It becomes easier to roll the dice on a bottle of Scotch once you've had a bunch and you know what styles you like and dislike.

>>22029087
I like Bruichladdich classic laddie

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>>22025625
Kike

>>22025864
Drinking scotch in cocktails is high level patrician tier, so long as you actually know what you're doing and how to build the drink around the specific scotch you're using to get it to mix well and enhance the flavors.

Dumping a random scotch into a drink like it's a dry gin or something is usually going to turn out terribly or just be a pointless waste, that should be obvious.

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>>22029688
No.

Finally got around to trying Wild Turkey 101 Rye after all these years. I like it. It's big on the pickle juice flavor you sometimes find in rye.

>>22031161
I have all this expensive whiskey but unless it’s a special occasion I almost always reach for an affordable bottle like this.
I almost don’t even touch my expensive bottles
WT 101 rye is one of my favorites

>>22029087
Consistently fucking BORING - I keep trying and even bottles people highly recommend and my only reaction "yea that tastes like fucking bourbon"

>>22031717
It's the same with everything that's strongly regulated. Especially young cognac. The fact that scotch relies so heavily on smoke or wine barrels doesn't speak for it positively though imo. It's basically a cocktail in a bottle.

You fags completely ignore that there is an emerging scene in American whiskey with all manner of mash bills and cask finishes that undeniably mogs the variety of flavors you find in scotch. But the caveat is that due to the antiquated liquor distribution system here, the average store won't have many of those options because they generally come from smaller operations without wide distribution. Fortunately loopholes exist in laws and online ordering is becoming pretty common and I'd estimate that 75% of smaller distilleries/NDPs will ship direct to your door now.

>>22031729
>It's basically a cocktail in a bottle
It doesn't have to be, but the way that it can do this is one of the cool things about it.

>>22029688
Luv me a good ass Rob Roy

>>22031776
Yeah American Single Malt is a SUPER fun category with lots of big, bold flavors.

>>22032374
To be honest america is just a better region for aging spirit, unless it’s a wack region like texas (not that all texas spirit is bad it just had limitations due to the heat). There’s a lot more to play with in an American rickhouse (the height of the floor matters far more) than a warehouse in Scotland.

Today is rye day Friday finally off work, warming up with a shot of Kentucky owl wiseman rye. I am trying to kill this bottle.

It’s alright, the first bottle I got was good but this second bottle has a weird herbal bitter note to it that still hasn’t aired out of it, it’s been sitting half full for over a year now because I just don’t think it’s great. It would be a fine mixer.

>>22032381
Heat is actually ideal for aging spirit if you like big, bold flavors. It extracts flavors from casks very quickly.

>>22029087
>especially when most of it is 80 proof.
I haven't bought 80 proof Scotch in YEARS though.

>>22033562
sometimes even 46% feels thin

I had my second pour of the new rift balboa rye today and it was quite good. This time I picked up a lot of lemon in addition to the rye spices, it was like drinking lemongrass. If they ever release this at cask strength I will do anything to get one.

After being underwhelmed by the last few bourbons Ive opened the trend has been reversed by JD Heritage Toasted Barrel, it’s so good

Anyone try the knob creek blenders batch 01?
Some people are saying it’s good it’s $45 though for a 10 year limited batch
Thinking about trying one bottle

>>22034060
>lemon
This is one of those flavors I adore in young whiskies. Sometimes young whiskies can be good because they are young.

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Gimme that ol' time Jim Beam 4L bottle

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>>22029688
Are you referring to the prestigious Smokey Cokey cocktail?

>>22034237
>mixing whiskey
Absolutely disgust...
>covering up the flavor of Lagavulin
Understandable.

>>22034228
same effect as blanco tequila imo

>>22034237
>>22034273
?????????????????

>>22034473
>Diageo ruins yet another once great whisky in Lagavulin
>it is now better with Coke to cover up its disgusting flavor than without
What is there not to understand? This is not a complicated concept.

sweet whiskey is trash, pappy van winkle and weller are mediocre drinks at best.

>>22035078
>wheated
Into the trash it goes.

I just cracked my Elijah Craig a126 rye and DAMN this is good. This is nothing like any other barely legal rye I've tried, it's thick and herbal with a huge pop of mint and dill that is perfectly balanced with sweet dark brown sugar and oak. The finish is phenomenal with candied orange peel and oak lingering delightfully with dark brown sugar for ages. I highly recommend getting this if you ever see it. In my state it seemed to be highly allocated with stores only getting a few bottles each, but hopefully it is more available outside of flyover shitholes.

Regular Laphroaig sucks compared to the cask strength. I don’t think I’ll buy another bottle of the regular stuff it’s only 25 dollars less than what you pay for cs.

>>22035732
We need to force distilleries to produce better standard bottlings
Why isn’t it 46.5% non chill filtered already

>>22035078
I kinda like it especially after a big dinner when my blood sugar is peaking already

>>22035750
markets outside the US already have to put up with Laphroaig 10 @40% when its 43% for the US/NA(think I've seen or heard of 43% in Canada)

I think a lot whiskey drinkers think scotch sucks because we are used to drinking higher proof whiskey. When you drink something at 80-90 proof it tastes so thin. Cask strength scotch is the only way to go.

>>22035846
usually lower strength isnt bad flavor wise, but the mouth feel is almost always worse, leaving you wanting, with or without increased alcoholic kick.

People don't like scotch because it's not le heckin flavor bomberino, am I right fellow gentlesirs?

>>22035960
>cask strength peatbombs
>cask strength sherrybombs
>not flavor bombs

>I made him mad enough by saying guaiacol that he made a hurt feelings and butt ranged meme
kek

>>22035999
Very true, it's like soda and candy bars but for adults like me

i just made a cocktail with garlic soda. based or cringe?

>>22036247
peak wario taste

>>22036004
This, and unironically

Inb4
>No, you can't just, enjoy things that are sweet and flavorful and taste good, to be mature you're only allowed to pretend to enjoy things that are disgusting

>>22035846
it's also because good scotch is overpriced in the US and the online discourse is US-focused, so bourbon is treated as better value

>>22036564
Bourbon/Rye and Scotch are basically completely different styles of spirits that just happen to fall under the grandfather label of whisk(e)y, but are otherwise almost as different from each other as each are to rum or brandy.

Are there any 100 percent rye whiskeys out there that are aged like scotch in reused barrels vs like it usually is in new oak barrels?

>>22034144
I think it’s good, but also overrated. It’s a cool release because I think they did accomplish what they set out to do. It’s like basic knob creek but sweeter. Honestly if you’re used to the 25-45 price range it’s probably pretty dang good, but I don’t think it’s like $100 tier

>>22036942
I think some Swedish and German ryes have been like that. I dont think you'll find much if any from US producers.

>>22036942
>>22036942
There are some 100% rye Canadian whisky, but I'm not sure if they're aged in used barrels.

>>22036564
Scotch is overpriced in the uk too. Ironically Germany and the Dutch seem to get the best scotch prices
Scotch is just generally over priced desu, they have convinced a few retards that it’s an “investment”

>>22036942
Not yet no. Rye tends to get a short age time and it helps to impart a richer sweeter character to dryer tasting rye grain in a shorter amount of time. Rye just doesn’t last 14 years like it should

>>22037327
Rye has so much character I am glad we are starting to see a rye revival in the us. I think if distilleries gave rye the scotch treatment with some “American” twists it could really be great.

>>22037247
Canadian made whiskey seems very low on the wood priority scale.

>>22031776
>I'd estimate that 75% of smaller distilleries/NDPs will ship direct to your door now
What are some of your favorites?

>>22037451
There is a Bruichladdich rye and I like it a lot, there might be refill casks on the rye

>>22037480
I've only ordered from New Holland and Onyx&Amber, both which I'd recommend. But I keep tabs on way more in case they drop something good online (almost never). The downside of ordering direct from distillers is that shipping booze is expensive, especially if you're ordering just one bottle from a distiller/ndp you've never tried before. Most of my online orders are through stores such as HiProof because they have a great selection and occasionally drop some bangers at or below msrp.

quick, I have three whiskeys and coke
which one should I mix with it?
>Evan Williams Black Label
>Jim Beam Black 7 year
>Monkey Shoulder

>>22038157
Either of the bourbons

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Tried some Big Peat recently hoping for a decent peaty whiskey. It isn't bad but not great either, I could've gotten something better for cheaper.

>>22038406
is Whiskey already in the "hot sauce" category of label design?

>>22038415
That would be pretty funny but no, not yet at least. That's the only bottle with a silly label I know of.

>>22038434
>Islay Joe's smoky ass destroyer

>>22038440
They had a lagavullien based blended malt called Smokey Joe’s
It was pretty bad

>>22035846
Do hobbyists outside Americas even get that much into bourbon and other american whiskey? Over here all the bars with a whiskey selection are like 95% scotch.

>>22038569
I’m not sure I meant Americans with that comment. Good bourbon and rye over 100 proof can be had cheap so most people I know don’t bother with scotch. Usually it’s older guys who are a little up their own ass or fedora lord that you see drinking scotch here.

>>22038569
Yeah, I have met scotish people that love bourbon and have like a bourbon club in Edinburgh though they special order most of their stuff online bulk buy for the club for the best deals.

I have met Swiss people who do the same and the Swiss go crazy for bourbon

The Germans love bourbon

The Japanese love bourbon

Canadians used to love bourbon before this political culture war shit recently they probably still do it’s just not readily available at the moment

>>22038573
Indians love scotch over bourbon for some reason

>>22038581
most places in the world drink malted liquor and also that whole "occupied by British" thing.
I'm sure Malted Bourbon would do ok.

>>22038560
>It was pretty bad
Of course it was. It was Lagavulin-based.

>>22038569
where I'm at Jim Beam and Johnnie Walker are very popular with normies, but the whisky snobs mostly drink scotch

>>22038593
>Malted Bourbon
I’ve seen corn+rye and rye+barley, but never corn+barley (in significant ratios). I’ve had a peated bourbon but idk if that was the corn that was peated or more likely they just added a touch of peated barley. Someone must marry these two grains and end the brother wars

>>22038623
actually i did have a 60/30/10 corn/barley/rye from a local distillery it worked well I’d say. Barley sweetness complimented the corn sweetness

>>22038623
Only one I can think of off hand is Woodford Reserve

>>22038623
IIRC Old Forester Rye, which is an absolute budget champ, has an interesting blend of rye, corn and malt.

>>22038648
Yeah it’s high malt. It’s worth trying, sweet bubblegum not a lot of spice. It’s a good price.
I like the regular OF 100 more though

In case you need it, here's a reminder that OGD114 never disappoints.

>>22038415
Are you a man enough to drink PEATED whiskey? Kek I hope all the bearded sois take up peated whiskey as the next performative masculinity consumer item.

>>22038809
Peated scotch is the ipa of the beer world. I’ve noticed the ipa hype train is dying down big time soygoys need a new thing to consume.

>>22038820
Whiskey already has performative drinks. Peated scotch is one of them, the others are cask strength and allocated bottles.

>>22038820
ipas are good, guy. scotch is good. nice memes tho.

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>>22038890
They're good... for me to POOP ON

>>22038854
>Omg bro this ipa is so HOPPY
>Omg bro this scotch is so PEATY

Some of you are way too attached to your internet memes and seeing the world through that lens.

>>22038960
The difference is peat tastes good and hops don't.

>>22038656
What I like about it is that it is pretty oaky for its price.

>>22038996
more importantly "beer sucks whisky fucks"

>>22039014
I do love me a good >10% ABV stout that isn't heavy on the hops.

>>22038820
It’s actually sherried scotch, le sherry bomb hunters are like the hop heads

>>22024347
shut up, just get out

>>22034230
Bourbon is just corn boy crap

>>22040035
What’s a good sherry bomb to try? I just started trying some different scotches so far I’ve had ardbeg, laphroaig, oban 14 and macallan 12. The only one I’ve liked is the frog.

>>22040272
Glendronach 12

>>22040272
Also, Aberlour A'bunadh.

>>22040274
>>22040275
Thanks anon I’ll check it out. I did take a look just now and it seems like their proof is quite low. I recently bought the cask strength version of frog after liking the regular version and remembered how much low proof whiskey sucks. Not sure if I’m willing to spend 70 dollars for 80 proof.

>>22040420
Glendronach 12 is extremely flavorful for a lower proof whisky. You won't find anything with more dark dried fruit flavor at that price.
A'bunadh is cask strength. It's very intense.

Has anyone else picked up the Evan Williams 250th single barrel release? I opened mine the other day and it's great, basically the same flavor profile of the EW Single Barrel I already have but amped up considerably. I've always liked the flavor profile from my EW SiB but don't often pour it because, at 86 proof, the watery mouthfeel and more muted flavors aren't appealing. But this special edition SiB comes in at 117.76 proof and it is exactly what I was hoping for: huge baked apple and toasty caramel notes with a punch of cinnamon. It goes a touch sour on the finish but that's all I can complain about.

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If any of you guys are looking for something to experiment with, I recently tried barely shochu for the first time and it was actually really good. Sort of felt like an unpeated scotch had a baby with some sake (might be a yeast cultivar thing?) Goes great while eating rather than after eating in my opinion.

The hangover is fucking real, I hate alcohol. Lol
I’m going to give up this hobby and live a smoother life

>>22042337
You could also drink in moderation. If you can't do that then you should probably indeed just stop.

>>22038569
While it's mostly Jim Beam and Jack Daniels there some better bottles imported as well. Though sadly the by far best american spirit rye is seldom seen here in Sweden and you won't find it on the shelf but have to order it in advance when you're in the mood for it. Though I've seen several nordic distilleries experimenting with making their own rye as well.

Has anyone tried the new rift single malt? I’m going to try to hunt it down today after work.

>>22042653
I have a new riff 2024 bottling of the 6yr malted rye that I still need to try

I bet it will be good, go for it. You ever try Stranahan’s single malt from Colorado 8000ft elevation made? I like their stuff

>>22042401
It only took 3 drinks (2 Modelos and a whiskey that I didn’t even finish) and a hit of weed and I have a wicked hangover

>>22042715
Lay off the weed then

>>22042714
Not him but I tried it at a whiskey bar like 1-2 years ago and remember liking it. From what I remember though it was like most other American single malts. Idk how to describe it but they’re just sweeter and “maltier” than a scotch equivalent. Tastes more like the mash itself (beer wort). And it’s not the barrels because I’ve had charred virgin oaked scotch. It’s not necessarily the age either because I’ve had young scotches. Maybe it’s simply the temperature of the ferment or that they’re using bourbon yeasts idk. It’s not my style but I’m glad it’s catching on. They’re probably also using column stills but I don’t think that’s the issue either

>>22042715
You forgot to also drink enough water, 70% of a hangover is being dehydrated and/or electrolyte imbalance.

yank whisky is mostly dogshite

What is your cheap whiskey of choice? I like jack daniels as cheap stuff. I also used to drink label 5 in college. Tried johnny walker red and it was utter garbage. Famous grouse was meh.

>>22042770
Wild Turkey 101 (bourbon or rye)
Evan Williams Green Label
Old Forester 100 proof (bourbon or rye)
$37 Laphroaig 10 at Costco

>>22042775
>Evan Williams Green Label
Oops, I meant white label (BiB).

>>22025649
>classic laddie
Good, but kind of expensive for what it is

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Would you spend $600 for a 24 year old bourbon? I've seen NBC dropping these pretty frequently and they always sell out super fast. I'd love to know who is buying these because this shit has to be ridiculously over oaked.

>>22042952
I just bought a bottle of nbc 8 year rye. Interested to try it tonight.

>>22042952
I have a bottle of Kc 21. It is overoaked I didn’t care for it. It would be ok for 60-70.

>>22042770
>Tried johnny walker red and it was utter garbage.
It just tastes like a cheap blended scotch with a mild peat note. There's nothing particularly bad about it and it makes a decent highball.

>>22043050
>There's nothing particularly bad about it
Wrong.

>>22043053
I don't agree. I think a lot of the hate directed at cheap bottles like that is overblown and performative.

>>22043056
Sure, there are plenty of non-offensive cheap whiskies. However, that particular cheap bottle is particularly bad.

>>22042952
No, and I do stupid shit currently drinking Murray hill club special release 4 in a highball

>>22043065
I don't see how. I actually tried a number of cheaper blends at around the same time a while back, that being one of them, and I it held up well against other bottles a similar price point. On a related matter, I recall buying Famous Grouse back when I first got into scotch, and I thought it was vile, even the smell of it was disgusting. After drinking scotch for a few years I tried it again, and I liked it. It's a decent cheap sherried bottle.

>>22043075
>I don't see how.
By tasting bad.
>I actually tried a number of cheaper blends at around the same time a while back, that being one of them, and I it held up well against other bottles a similar price point.
I'm sorry your tastebuds are defective and your taste is shit.

>>22043077
My actual opinion is that if you can't enjoy a cheap blend like on some level then you probably don't like scotch very much in general, because you're tastes are being offended by something that's just normal. I feel the same way about cheap bourbons like Jim Beam white. It all feels very performative to me. The online discourse about whiskey is like that overall for whatever reason.

>>22043083
>because you're tastes
your*

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>>22034144
It's just okay, absolutely nothing to write home about. Knob Creek can do so much better.

>>22043083
I can enjoy many cheap blends. Just not that one.

>>22043173
Maybe you're just retarded.

>>22042991
This is a great mgp rye. For all the shit mgp gets their rye is on point. This, penelope toasted rye and the old sagamore stuff is all great.

kek the diageo shill is panicking that someone doesn't like red label

>>22042770
Evan Williams black label (cheaper and better than Jack Daniels and Jim Beam)
Tullamore dew (tastes like apples in caramel)

>>22043246
I had a feeling this stupid accusation was coming. To clarify, I've bought one (1) bottle of JW Red, which I solely bought to see how terrible it supposedly was (it wasn't). If I had to actually recommend a cheaper blend, though, I would recommend Dewar's 12.

>>22043246
I'm normally the one you call "Diageo shill" and my only post in this thread is here >>22024340

Never had a smoky whisky before. What's something cheap and smoky that is good?

>>22043841
What do you consider cheap? Single malts are going to set you back a bit unless you live in an area with good prices. There are a few cheaper peated blends that are available.

>>22043851
what about the blends?
for single malts, I can get Ardbeg Wee Beastie, but that's still not particularly cheap

>>22043860
>what about the blends?
Johnnie Walker Black
Famous Grouse Smokey Black
Teacher's Highland Cream
>for single malts, I can get Ardbeg Wee Beastie, but that's still not particularly cheap
If you're willing to pay for that then go ahead and get it. See what Laphroaig 10 costs in your area as well. Prices on that vary a lot (it's expensive where I live) but that's a standard peated bottle that you might be able to get for cheaper than the Ardbeg.

>>22043863
>Famous Grouse Smokey Black
meant Smoky*

>>22043841
Get a port charlotte 10
Thank me later

>>22043819
>>22043820
>four minutes apart
kek

>>22043860
>what about the blends?
No cheap blends are anything more then very, very slightly smoky. I'm talking super subtle here. They will leave you disappointed if you're seeking something smoky specifically.
If you actually want to experience a significantly peated whisky you need to at least step up to Laphroaig 10 or Ardbeg Wee Beastie.
If you have a nearby Costco that sells booze you may find a $37 Laphroaig there.

>>22044169
Lephroaig is the scotch that got me into scotch from drinking mostly Evan Williams it’s a good suggestion

These days I absolutely require more proof than the standard lephroaig 10 bottling so that’s why I suggested port charlotte 10 because that scratches the lephroaig itch for me and delivers a better presentation.

Lephroaig back when I fist drank it had a lot more flavor and character, these modern bottlings are thin versions of what we used to have 12 years ago

We didn’t used to rush to drink high proof whiskey because there was decent flavor before now part of the high proof trend is that the low proof stuff abandoned their principles and effort

>>22044169
What about Highland Park 10? It's cheaper here than Ardbeg and Laphroaig

>>22044182
Light/easy-drinking/"omg it's so smooth bro" (read: 404 flavor not found) 40% ABV crap. Light peat.

>>22044182
It's a good whiskey. Ignore trolls.

>80 proof
Into the trash it goes.

>>22044244
Actually let me modify that statement. I've never had a Highland Park 10 but I've had the 12 and it was good. It was a while ago and I didn't even know they had a 10.

Crazy how a bottle of whisky (700/750ml) isn’t much bigger than a standard size water bottle (500 ml). Talk about an optical illusion….

>>22043860
>>22044169
Honestly Wee Beastie is not at all what I'd recommend as an intro to smoke. It will give you tons of smoke, and that's the problem, it's fine at what it does, but Ardbeg/Laphroaig in 10 year old form will be much sweeter and mote balanced, and you should be able to taste what peat adds to a good whisky. Wee Beastie is just going to be too focused on the smoke to let you easily see how much depth peat allows a whisky to have, and it might turn you off the style early as it's deliberately and atypically smoke focused.

Dalwhinnie 15 is so good bros

>>22045128
>>22044252
>>22044194
Campbeltown Loch is also same price as the Wee Beastie over here. Anyone here had that?

What’s the deal with redwood empire. Everyone talks up there stuff but I tried the regular emerald giant and it was crap. I don’t see why you would pay 35 for this at 90 proof when you can pay 28 for high west double rye. Is there anything of theirs worth drinking? I was thinking about one of their cask strength bottles but at 85 dollars I can’t see myself gambling on it being good.

>>22046276
it comes out of California so all the retards think it's good

>>22046276
>>22046428
It was quite good when they were bottling aged mgp juice but the oldest mgp dried up and redwood started bottling their own juice the last couple years and this is where quality took a nosedive, I expect that they are going to improve as time goes by and they have some time to work on it

>>22046276
The haystack needle bottles are pretty good, though I think they're a bit overpriced considering it's only aged 8 years. They should be $90-100 max, but maybe worth the premium as mine has strawberry notes that I haven't found in anything else. And I like the emerald giant rye at cask strength for the herbal punchy flavors, but I like willett rye better for that flavor profile, and it's cheaper.

Has anyone seen a bottle of the wt gold foil in the wild? I see resellers putting them up for 1500 online is there any chance of getting one for msrp?

Just tried EHT SmB for the first time and holy shit this is shit. Maybe it's because I'm following a pour of a cigar blend but it just tastes bland with a watery mouthfeel and peppery bitter finish. It's so bad I wonder if this bottle is corked.

>>22047874
The nose on this is really good though, like cotton candy in a glass. Maybe my palate is fucked as I've had a bit of a sinus bug.

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>>22047878
No it's pretty bland. I won't say its complete shit but for all the hype its a below average bottle.

>>22047896
I have an eh Taylor small batch I paid msrp for, I’m going to open it and try it and I hope it’s great

>>22048010
Buffalo trace is dropping bottles you could never find before all over the place as the bourbon market dries up. Their whole scam was to use artificial scarcity to drive up demand and leverage that on liquor stores so they would be forced to sell large amounts of fireball if they wanted allocations. My local place had single barrel, smb, rye as well as eagle rare sitting on the shelf last time I went for msrp and no one is buying it. The whole thing was a scam.
Anyway prepare to be underwhelmed when you open the bottle but at least you only paid ~50-60 dollars for it.

>>22043099
If I didn't know any better I would mistake you for a couple people I know with those drinks on your desk

Anyone here ever have Dancing Goat? I had their 10 year Single Barrel and I thought it was pretty good for $60.
Their older stuff is MGP but even their own stuff is about 6 years old minimum.

Just got some Ardbeg Wee Beastie as my first foray into Scotch, what do I think of it?

>>22048404
You liked it.

>>22048404
brave choice

Man, I wish Illinois had a better distribution for the truly unicorn bottles. The only place I have ever been able to get one was at my local Garfield Beverage where they had a lottery to win the right to buy some at MSRP.

That said the distribution of allocated stuff is usually pretty good and easy to find.

>>22048444
This. The number of people I see waiting outside of a Binnys at 6 AM on a Saturday trying to get a Pappy is absurd. Especially since I'm pretty sure Binny's never get Pappy's

>>22048441
Based choice.
None of this "I'm an NPC so I'll go for something SMOOTH" bullshit.
Straight for flavortown.
I approve.

>>22048444
>>22048449
it's especially funny for bourbon where the diminishing returns are probably the biggest and cheap stuff is quite decent

>>22048407
>>22048441
It's good and not as extremely intense as I was expecting. I tried mezcal for the first time recently and ended up loving it, so I thought this would be a similar experience. I also kind of lied, more like withheld the truth, in order to build more drama. I also bought some Monkey Shoulder because I wanted to make a Penicillin. The Monkey Shoulder is literally indistinguishable from bourbon to my child's palate. It tastes slightly different from the OGD 100 that I usually buy, but not necessarily any better. The Penicillin is very good, but I'm not really sure what exactly the Monkey Shoulder is doing here that any random bourbon wouldn't.

>>22048474
>The Monkey Shoulder is literally indistinguishable from bourbon to my child's palate
I never get this kind of pear type fruitiness it has in bourbon, but it is aged in bourbon casks and not peated so there is some overlap in the sweet vanilla flavors

it's not supposed to be anything special, just a very mellow, sweet scotch that's simple but easy to drink
unfortunately a lot of cheap scotch is terrible compared to cheap bourbon or irish, so when there's anything drinkable under 30$, people hype it up

>>22048474
>The Monkey Shoulder is literally indistinguishable from bourbon to my child's palate.
You don't have a child's palate. You have a completely fucking broken palate. Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with your tongue? See a doctor.

>>22044752
I want to try the “bear mace vodka”

I just went bourbon hunting for a few hours all over town and I ended up with a weller special reserve and a new green river honey release how did I do? There wasn’t much else to get

>>22049117
Shitty both of those are gay as hell. Why buy something to buy something that is retard behavior.

Have any anons tried The Reveries? Its origins are from r*ddit and it gets crazy internet hype (any online stores that carry it sell out very quickly), but I snagged a 8 year single barrel recently and it's genuinely very good. It has a classic bourbon profile with brown sugar, oak, hints of leather, and with a nice orange peel that emerges on the palate and hangs around on the finish. I wish it were slightly sweeter though.

>>22049117
As long as you enjoy them you did good. Personally I'd pass on both of those, though I'd be interested in trying the green river. I don't really understand the recent popularity of honey finishes. I have a bottle of Penelope Rio that only got the honey finish and it's really boring. Though it is essentially Penelope wheated with a honey finish which is boring by design. I don't know why they bottled this and duped customers like me who neglected to carefully read the label. But anyway, I'm sure there's some good honey finishes out there. I have the dark arts long strange drip but haven't opened it yet.

>>22049174
What Penelope bottles are worth buying. I really like the toasted rye but bought a bottle of architect and it sucks. I almost bought a bottle of the tokaji rye but read it was kind of shitty.

>>22049121
It’s my first weller and I got it for msrp
And the green river is new, I just want to try something new
Should I go back and return the weller? I think it’s worth having one on the shelf even if I don’t open it for a while

>>22049317
How much did you pay for the weller? If you are paying more than 40 you got scammed. Weller is just another overhyped bottle from Buffalo trace which is known for being bland but in this case it’s even worse because it’s wheated.

Pic related and the KC 12-year cask strength are the only things I'm excited for this year and I'll probably never see them because Michigan fucking sucks for anything even mildly allocated

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>>22049629
forgot pic because I'm retarded

>>22049240
I had a Barrel Strength Rose finish that I really enjoyed

>>22049629
>>22049630
I am looking for that ogd 114 7 right now still hasn’t hit my state it seems what is the msrp on it? Do you know?

>>22049596
I paid $41 before tax
I am still thinking about taking it back, there is a lot of competition in the $40 range these days and I only got this because it was one of the few bottles that I don’t have that I found last night

>>22049730
I believe it's $50-$55, but apparently some people have found it for a bit less

I just opened a store pick of high west Cabernet finish. I kind of was down on the idea of finished whiskey but this bottle has won me over. Would recommend.

>>22050412
>I kind of was down on the idea of more flavor
For what purpose?

>>22050532
If you don’t drink scotch the idea of finishing barrel seems a little unusual until you start trying some of them.

What is the best whisky-energy drink highball?

>>22024251

Rye or die.

Spice, Aromatics, lack of fucking CORN, warmth.

Honestly it should be the most popular style whiskey in the world.

>>22051194
>kc rye
>lacking corn
Don’t get fooled by Kentucky rye they are the day walkers of the bourbon vampire world.

Are you guys ordering the Found North Batch 012 release? It's available today until 10 pm EST

https://barcart.foundnorthwhisky.com/products/found-north-batch-012

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For me it's making two cocktails of this and Diet Coke. After that I go out and smoke cigarettes while sipping throughout the night until I'm blackout. And I never buy the glass version, only the plastic bottle, because who needs class?

>>22051255
it's hard to beat this stuff for the price. I was drinking it today along with Jim Beam 7 year which is like twice the price and I'm not sure which one I prefer desu

>>22040584
It’s decent, it’s not crazy good, for the price and the proof it’s a no brainer, it has a lighter sweet profile than the usual Evan single barrel, it’s fairly easy drinking with a good amount of spice. It does have some apple to it.
I like it. We should all list our barrel numbers in here, are there any really good barrels out there?

>>22051255
do yourself a favor and get the 100proof bottled in bond version, it's only 5 bucks more but it's certainly worth it

>>22038406
kek what is that bottle lmao

>>22051511
Yeah I wouldn't say it's an exceptional bottle but it's a good affordable pour. Mine is:
>barrel 111
>barreled 12/18/18
>bottled 2/23/26
so about 7 years old

>>22051631
>Bicentennial bottle
>bottled 3 years ago

>>22024251
Distilling alcohol to drink is degenerate, just make some tepache, ginger bug beer, or kvass instead, it will benefit you with probiotics.

>>22051638
Are you fucking wasted? 2/23/26 as in February 23, 2026. Learn to read dates retard.

Tonight I'm doing a blind of
>Rare Breed
>OF1920
>KC12
I've got a bit of a cold with a clogged nose so my olfactory senses aren't at their best but fuck it

>whiskey A
Plenty of spice on the nose. Some brown sugar. A bit of orchard fruit. Not much oak presence but it shows up in the finish.
>whiskey B
Lots of oak on the nose. That varnish note is showing up (love that shit). I'm pretty sure I'm picking up the Beam peanut note. There's some toffee and the finish reminds me of peanut brittle.
>whiskey C
Also has lots of oak present on the nose but less than B. The varnish note is just barely present. Has a bit of spice and lots of brown sugar.

I have a hard time ranking these so there's very little difference, they're all good pours:
C > B > A

And my guesses
>A
Rare Breed
>B
KC12
>C
OF1920

>>22051868
And the reveal:
>A
Knob Creek 12
>B
Rare Breed
>C
OF1920

At least I correctly identified the OF1920 but fuck I'm kind of embarrassed as I thought the KC12 would be a gimme. I've always struggled to identify the beam peanut note that people talk about so maybe I was trying too hard and imagining flavors. Though to also be fair to myself I've disliked most knob creek products so at least my ranking was as I expected.

Same anon >>22051872 again. I decided to keep the fun going and open up a bottle of Eagle Rare that's been sitting unopened in my closet for a while. I got this from HiProof and supposedly it's a pick from a Louisville restaurant/bar that they somehow came into possession of (HiProof is a store in California, so it seems a bit odd that they had this).
Anyway, I don't have a ton to say about it. I wanted to hate it because of the gay buffalo trace manufactured scarcity and having not seen a bottle in person for years, but it really is great. This bottle absolutely fits the grape jelly profile I've read about in some reviews. The only downside is that I bought this bottle as something to share with plebs but it's too good for that, I will have to hoard it all for myself.

>>22051972
Eagle rare is the bottom of the barrel tater normie shit. I wouldn’t take a pour of it if it was offered to me for free.

>>22051975
Agreed but this bottle in particular is pretty interesting though it lacks in complexity. You're right though, I should share it with normies because most of my bottles still mog it.

>>22051608
The bottle is indeed pretty silly. I'm willing to bet they would sell more if it didn't look so silly. Now that I've tasted it on multiple occasions it's actually grown on me. Pretty nice for a ~50 euro bottle. Very smoky, a little bit sweet, sort of nutty, very smooth. Would recommend.

>>22053037
>very smooth
Opinion disregarded.

>>22053046
What's wrong with calling a drink smooth? I just mean that it goes down the hatch without an unpleasant aftertaste or any "burn" like cheaper liquors often do. I'm (relatively) new to drinking liquor, you see.

>>22053058
It’s a massive red flag indicating flavorless or soulless. It’s not bad intrinsically, but there's a kneejerk to boomer retards whose pretty much only criteria is “HOW SMOOTH IS IT?” We’re not high schoolers taking shots trying to quaff down the yucky whiskey. If something has burn or bite but it has the flavor to justify it so be it. But to boomers who for a long time (and still kind of do) influenced the market they would gladly strip down the flavor and make watery “smooth” shit out of everything.

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>it's so smooth bro

>>22053092
Buffalo trace knows their target audience that’s why all their shit is bland as hell. I like some bite in whiskey soemthing like rare breed has the perfect bite and flavor combination.

Hunter S Thompson got me addicted to Wild Turkey 101

>>22053092
I see, makes sense. Thanks.

Mgp might make the best rye. Every time I have it it’s always enjoyable except bulleit rye for some reason.

>>22053037
that's great
>>22053058
nothing, performative /ck/ tasters want to have fun
>>22053112
and that's a good thing
>>22053092
>It’s a massive red flag indicating flavorless or soulless
no it's not, it's a way to describe the flavor profile

>>22053301
>no it's not, it's a way to describe the flavor profile
no, it’s mouthfeel. and it’s correlated with narrow tails, chill filtering, and dilution aka removal of flavor. i agree smooth can be a good thing but as I said it’s a red flag when it’s often sought as the end goal at the cost of flavor

Happy Fryeday everyone. Today I opened up a cask strength small batch rye from Union Horse Distilling in Lenexa KS. It has a 100% rye mash bill and is 5-7 years aged. This one fits right into that rye profile that I love with punchy spices dominated by dill and a pleasant sweet backbone. I need to try this and the willett side by side to see if I can tell a difference.

I also opened a Sagamore CS rye and this shit is great too. The rye spices aren't so dominant but layered with a delicious dark brown sugar. I have to assume that this would be really good if double oaked. So picking up a Sagamore Rye DO might be on the agenda soon..

And I'm finishing off with the new riff balboa rye which is always a treat. Every time I come back to this bottle I enjoy it more. This time I'm picking out a lot of mint, vanilla, honey, and lemon zest which all combines together beautifully. If you enjoy rye you should be on the lookout for this bottle.

>>22053356
Balboa rye is my favorite whiskey right now. I have been nursing the bottle because it’s hard to find.

>>22049630
my store is getting it soon, the liquor store clerk told me while I was getting another 114

>>22053301
>it's a way to describe the flavor profile
It literally isn't.

any recommended budget Irish whiskeys?
only one I had was Tullamore DEW and I quite liked it

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This is the best American whiskey you are likely to be able to afford .

>>22053884
I don't understand what you mean by that

>>22053884
>American whiskey
The Diageo shill is drunk.

>>22053884
No, that would be Evan Williams Black Label

>>22054098
The quintessential American whiskey is either a beam product or wild turkey.

>>22024251
If you don't get rye whiskey you surely will die.

Rye is good but never great - it’s one dimensional

>>22054655
Rye has way more character than bourbon

>get drunk
>feel good and confident
>feel sick
>ask myself why i got drunk and vow to never do it again

>do it again

Goodnight everyone

>>22054715
rye has character?

>>22054235
>quintessential American whiskey
yes, but we are interested in good whiskey

>>22055028
>and vow to never do it again
I never have this desu, I am just pissed I did it the previous day.

>>22055182
Does corn have character?

>>22055242
no, only potatoes have character. that's why I only drink Chopin and Luksusowa

>>22055283
BULLSHIT

Just had my first pour of Four Roses OESO (100 proof single barrel) and this is nice. I'll have to find a cask strength bottle of this sometime. I've had CS bottles of OESF and OBSQ that I didn't enjoy much. I guess I'm just a pleb who likes fruity sweet stuff.

>>22055878
Four roses sucks and the name is gay so I can’t endorse this product. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>22055982
You’re wrong but that’s okay I guess, we always get a bunch of your type in generals

>>22055996
Its corn syrup drink so its a given that it sucks because all bourbon sucks

Has anyone tried to the tokaji rye from Penelope? I found a bottle for 95 dollars but I’m not sure if I should pull the trigger.