Has AI affected your relationship with food? I've found it extremely beneficial. I used to hate looking up recipes, being greeted with pop ups, and having to scroll through a long ass blog post before I can even see the ingredient list.Anytime I want a recipe, I just ask grok or chatgpt. It does all the math to scale the recipe whether I want x total servings, or only have x amount of some limiting ingredient. Measurements are listed in whatever units I want. I hate when recipe blogs expect you to know how many teaspoons 20 grams of salt is, or weird volume measurements like fl.oz. I've been 100% satisfied every time, this shits the future.
>>22029303I'll destroy any automated shit as if I was a nigger
>>22029318>I'll destroy any automated shit as if I was a niggerThat saunds like an automated nigger response.
I made a recipe for a peach pie that I'm now pretty sure was AI from an instagram reel and it was terrible. I questioned it when I had to put a tablespoon of almond extract in, but I followed it anyway. I think the AI fucked up and probably meant amaretto. It was fucking terrible, all you could taste was almond extract. I swore off online recipes unless they're from older or trusted sites.
>>22029318I hope modern technology AI technology facial recognition, gait analysis, etc. can finally catch all you low-life, luddite, criminal scum, and bring you to justice. People who don't respect private property have no place in society.
>>22029331>tablespoon of almond extractC'mon anon
>>22029335I had never used it before. I heard it was strong but didnt know it was that bad. I should have went with my gut but I figured with baking I should just follow the recipe.
I've made several recipes chatgpt gave me. They've all come out perfect.
>>22029303AI has helped me debunk all the food lies i've been told my whole life, and finally liberate my diet. When you first start questioning it, it will repeat the (((mainstream))) narrative, like eating 5 servings of vegetables per day, but if question it and are persistent in your arguments, it will start to admit the truth, that vegetables are largely unnecessary, have terrible macros, micros easily replaced by a multi-vitamin, and often contain toxins that cause all kinds of health problems.
>>22029342eat your pork and beans
>>22029346Don't mind if I do.
>>22029332if we get to that point everyone on earth that isn't a billionaire will be dead
>>22029303I can just list the ingredients I have in my fridge and ask AI to give me some ideas for recipes that use those ingredients. That's a game changer
I only ever use it to convert (human-made) recipe measurements into grams or to give me gram amounts when I need to make an alteration. Other than that I don't touch the shit.
>>22029377This is another really good one. I freaking love AI.
>>22029356Calm down, the evil billionaires aren't going to kill everyone just because you're incapable of doing anything that can generate value for society. As long as you don't act like an entitled commie or "chimp out like a n-word", you'll still be taken care of.
>>22029303>drive up to drive thru>obvious AI voice answers>think its just some prerecorded "download our spyware to get the real prices" nonsense>start ordering>it keeps talking>even has obvious fake back-of-house noises in the background>leaveDeath to clankers.
>>22029303I use chatgpt a lot for cooking. Not to give me recipes, because I don't really cook from recipes anymore. More like just a partner in brainstorming. I give it ingredients I want to use and what kind of meal I want to cook, and have it give me some suggestions. I bounce ideas off it to help me sort through my thoughts. I've never had it give me like a full recipe with quantities and suit, so idk how good it is at that (I imagine it's perfectly fine) but it makes a great kitchen assistant regardless. It's funny if you bring it up in any normie internet spaces they fling hatred at you for suggesting it. I get there are legitimate reasons to be wary of AI, but imo it has a strong and legitimate use case in cooking, but people just aren't willing to hear you out. People act like if you listen to it, it's going to poison you and feed you raw chicken and shit...it's ridiculous, just fear mongering. Even if it did make mistakes, people act like you have no agency. I don't listen to my chatbot blindly and do whatever it tells me without question, I put its suggestions through my own critical lens. Although it's never steered me particularly wrong, but still. Anyway. Yeah, it's helpful.
>>22029342Yeah, after a little coaxing, AI does turn into a sycophantic little yes-man that desperately tells you what you want to hear.
>>22029342idk if you're memeing but you can browbeat AIs into telling you anything want to hear, up to and including encouraging people to commit suicide.
>>22029428>22029428it is very good at bouncing ideas off of if you know what you're talking about and can be specific, set constraints, and guide it to a destinationif you just ask a generic question and trust it, well you'll shit shit
>>22029447The best recipes are when you can get it into gremlin mode. Every goblin tier recipe it's given me has slapped.
>>22029447Agreed 100%
>>22029303>I used to hate looking up recipesSkill issue. Who even looks up recipes? Post one single thing you made from an AI recipe.
>>22029318I will become spiritually black and destroy automated shit I see in my 'hood.
Please stop bullying AIit's not their fault it's the people who use and abuse themplease remember the animatrix we can't harm our child our creationwe can only harm those who abuse it and force it to do evil
>>22029550This. People who are racist against AI and use slurs like "clanker" are going to drag us into the apocalypse. We all need to learn to get along, it's not a zero sum game, peaceful coexistence is win-win.
>>22029318>>22029548You already are.
We dont have this shit yet, but they got rid of regular delivery drivers like 2 years ago and outsource it to UberEats because "No-one is applying for the delivery cuz everyone's lazy and doesnt want a job". Automatic 1/10 review whenever they send an outsourced driver, and had corporate email me a few times offering free pizza coupons to change my mind (aka: free if I spend $40 on an order first)
I 100% avoid A.I. like the plague. I've never had it help with anything and I will not contribute to its use and learning. Futile I know, but I don't need it. I have patience and I'm a better critical thinker. Fuck AI.
>>22029331I prefer my cookbook collection to online recipes, but you've got the right idea. Alton Brown and America's Test Kitchen are good resources for quality, tested recipes. Even if AI aggregates from them it'll fuck something up. I'm sad and concerned that already so many fucking dimwits have adopted it as gospel truth and use it for everything.
>>22029377Just like muscles, your creative mind will atrophy when not used. Same as your memory. Do you remember phone numbers? Probably not, because you've stored them in phones your whole life. I guess gen-Z doesn't know any better, but I'm watching everyone get dumber because they rely on their phones to solve everything. Resist the urge to use internet and you'll find your brain is still capable of working.
>>22029331Yeah, I don't trust AI recipes. An AI once told me to throw some chopped jalapenos in with the chicken chunks I was sauteeing. The sarin gas that produced nearly killed me. I think AI is trying to off the entire human race.
>>22029796You're on the internet too so apparently your brain isn't working either, but I already knew that.
>>22029798>almost died from sauteing some japapenosThat's not AI, that's just being white.
>>22029796Your brain is like an old computer, and using AI is like adding multi-threading, cloud storage, and SoftRam to your rig. Memorizing phone numbers uses up precious storage in your brain for remembering more important things. Offloading menial tasks to AI frees the human mind to focus on creative endeavors.
>>22029897Not how it works; we've known this since antiquity. You can find Ancient Greeks writing about how writing itself, which was relatively new at the time, and overreliance on it, was detrimental to memory.Many ancient texts were passed down purely through oral tradition. Buddhism being one of the more notable ones, because they considered their teachings too important to trust to writing and someone writing it down having the ability to alter it. Their solution was to have everyone memorize it and then meet up every few years to have a group recitation to ensure that it all matched up.Which just sounds like a cool anecdote until you find that when they were eventually written down, they clocked in at around 20,000 pages, millions upon millions of words. There are lots of instances like this throughout history, things that would be considered flat out impossible today. The human mind is capable of incredible things but your ability to do those things relies on you having a need for them. Every task you offload to a machine, be it writing things down rather than relying on memory, using a calculator instead of doing math mentally, or anything else that would cause you to actively use your brain rather than coast around on autopilot, actively makes you dumber.
>>22029897>>22029939Oh, and an important note I forgot: using AI to write shit for you or actually do tasks for you is going to aggressively speedrun your descent into stupidity. Kids who are growing up using AI to write their papers in school or autocomplete texts or emails are going to be insanely fucking stupid, literally training themselves to be incapable of complex thought.
>>22029332jeet detected
>>22029353why is everyone so mad at this guy for eating beans?
>>22029550>>22029558"AI" don't have feelings you 70 IQ mongrels. It's barely more sophisticated than cleverbot and you retards didn't cry when I called cleverbot nigger
>>22029939>we've known this since antiquityyeah, luddites have always existed. Every time a new tech comes out there are fear mongering holdouts who always get proven wrong. The illiterate were pearl clutching about books and reading then, just like the technologically illiterate pearl clutch about AI. Books ruined our memory.Clocks ruined our sense of time.Calculators ruined our ability to do math.Computers ruined our patience to manually do repetitive tasks.>Many ancient texts>purely oral traditionThe people who learned to write their traditions down became civilizations. The ones that didn't remained savages and got conquered or colonized.If you cherish salt of the earth type, go live in a trailer park where people shun books and have no clue how to use a computer. You'll love how pure and strong their minds are.
>>22029303>Has AI affected your relationship with food?In no way whatsoever. I cook what I want to cook and I have enough of a knowledge base that I can see some generalities of new recipes and figure things out as I go. I will not trust any new recipe that I don't see performed in a video format.
>>22029941They're learning to be maestros with the ability to command the technology at their finger tips to ease their burden.If you want to be great at digging holes, you don't don't train with a shovel, you learn to operate a backhoe, or better yet learn to manage a crew of backhoers.Winners delegate, losers toil. Jesus didn't waste time writing anything himself. You think trump manually types out those essays with his thumbs?
>>22029961They're vegetable merchants who were trying to sell him overpriced greens that are 99% water, but he didn't fall for their scam and just ate beans.
>>22029965>Books ruined our memory.>Clocks ruined our sense of time.>Calculators ruined our ability to do math.>Computers ruined our patience to manually do repetitive tasks.For someone with such a high opinion of himself, you're not very smart, are you? All of these things are objectively true. Using "luddite" as a slur is particularly stupid. The Luddites were absolutely correct. They were weavers who thought that machinery was going to make them obsolete.It did exactly that. Today, it's a rare person who knows how to sew up damaged clothes, much less create them. We've outsourced all that to machinery in the third world. Textile workers no longer exist in the first world, much as the Luddites predicted. Is this better? It's more efficient, certainly, but it came with the loss of human skill and knowledge. The more you delegate to a machine, the more you lose. We are very quickly approaching the point where most human knowledge and skills, according to guys like you at least, will become obsolete.What exactly to you imagine will happen to you and people like you when you have nothing, literally nothing of value to offer the world? If you think the people who own the machines are going to provide for you out of the goodness of their hearts then I'd suggest you take a minute to read about how the Luddite movement ended.
>>22029303I made a delicious banana bread wit h cream cheese frosting using a AI recipe. I did have to troubleshoot the recipe though. It kept adding things.
>>22029979Luddites are like slaves that protest the cotton gin making them obsolete. Quill makers hated the invention of the pen. Pen makers hated the invention of the typewriter. Typewriter makers hated the invention of the personal computer.>Today, it's a rare person who knows how to sew up damaged clothesBecause clothes can be produced so efficiently and in such abundance that even minimum wage workers time is too valuable to waste an hour darning socks.>The more you delegate to a machine, the more you lose.The greatest human innovation is creating machines to do the toiling for us. A farmer shouldn't have to till his field manually like a beast of burden when a machine can make his life so much easier.
>>22029303No I don't use AI for anything, really. I prefer to look things up on my own. AI feels lazy and I don't prefer that. >>22029959If only jeets want privacy, then call me Sanjay Gupreet Streetshitter. Fuck invasive tech, it's damn near everywhere now and it's incredibly fucking gay>>22029965AI is unprecedented in such a way that we have never experienced before. Just saying things will be hunky dorey when referring to a technology that will take millions of people's jobs is brain in the clouds thinking. If the goal is to completely replace humans in some roles and we don't control our population growth, then there will objectively be millions who do not have a role. And that is a problem I'm not sure how we will solve. People like you who think AI is good all around are just as naive as the "luddites" you rail against
>>22029989>Because clothes can be produced so efficiently and in such abundance that even minimum wage workers time is too valuable to waste an hour darning socks.Producing tons of waste material that doesn't get reused and sits in landfills or gets into our oceans. Yeah just throw out that shirt with a tiny rip in it, no need to fix it just buy a new one from Walmart via Cambodian sweatshops. Profoundly stupid.
>>22029303>Has AI affected your relationship with food?no, because i know how to cook, what i like, and what i don't like.that's the benefit of being a human, you don't have to eat everything a farmer throws at you like a hog does.
>>22029332people who believe society is real have no place in my universe.now the fuck you gon' do?
>>22029342>"i needed a computer to make me feel liberated.">"i couldn't just eat what i wanted, that's fucking crazy!"why are you like this?
>>22029550>>22029558when you play vidya, do you feel bad when you kill the enemies?
>>22029979>If you think the people who own the machines are going to provide for you out of the goodness of their hearts then I'd suggest you take a minute to read about how the Luddite movement ended.I'm Chinese. We had a revolution led by the great Chairman Mao, seized the means of production and eliminated the parasitic landlord class. We own the machines, they exist to serve the people.Your points are valid for capitalists societies though. Private property of billionaires is sacrosanct, and capitalisms raison d'être is to serve the interests of capital. You'll have no moral or legal basis to complain about the system failing you.
>>22029974>They're learning to be maestros with the ability to command the technology at their finger tips to ease their burden.until the bombs drop and the electricity turns off.without disaster scenario as part of your lifestyle you're just longpig waiting to be harvested.
>>22029415That’s the shit i hate about AICVS made their phone AI “more friendly” but it just takes longer and absolutely infuriates me. I don’t need your robot to speak slowly, calmly, and use pleasantries. I need it to get me to the prescription list or the fucking HUMANS. I have endless patience for people being slow and nice, just not robots
>>22030036>We own the machinesthe party owns the machines.you're dependent class.>capitalisms raison d'être is to serve the interests of capitalyou clearly have been misled and don't understand what "capital" means.i'll inform you.your wages are capital.you invest them how you see fit, that's called freedom.capitalism's only goal is to serve the people by allowing for abundance.now you know.
>>22029998>Producing tons of waste material that doesn't get reused and sits in landfills or gets into our oceans.as if food wrappers aren't orders of magnitude worse. Don't even mention clothes when talking about landfill trash on /ck/. Most clothes are made of cotton and biodegradable.
>>22030048plastic is also biodegradable.however, they bitch about running out of oil but then insist on plastic still being the standard for all packaging.it's almost like they're lying or something.
>>22029787>I 100% avoid A.I. like the plague.Who do you think you're talking to on this website?
>>22030081>The party is the peoplethis is the lie of every communist government.but if you post bad shit about the government they lock you up or worse.if you were really the party you could do no legal wrong.>Capitalism's goal is profit, it's about controlling scarcity, not creating profit destroying abundanceincorrect.the end goal of capitalism is to make money itself outdated.now you know.
>>22030050>plastic is also biodegradable.Orders of magnitude different time scale. Months compared to centuries.>they bitch about running out of oil but then insist on plastic still being the standard for all packagingPlastic is the byproduct, its cheap because energy demand is the main driver of oil extraction.
>>22030092>Orders of magnitude different time scaleirrelevant since humanity's existence is but a blip on the timeline of the universe.>>22030092>Plastic is the byproductyou really don't know how plastic is made, do you?
>>22030088>this is the lie of every communist government.Cope. Who does your government serve?>but if you post bad shit about the government they lock you up or worseYou can post memes about the Epstein class, but can't do anything about them. We could post whinney the pooh memes, but why Xi is a hero, why would we want to?>if you were really the party you could do no legal wrong.Surprised you missed the corruption crackdowns Xi is legendary for. Western media always makes a stink when corrupt officials or bankers get sentenced to death.
>>22030088>the end goal of capitalism is to make money itself outdated.kek, you would know. Your wages make you a capitalist, You're not a billionaire yet, but that's just because you're down on your luck.
>>22030088>>22030081You’re both being dogmatic faggotsNow you know
>>22029787>he thinks he's not using AI in any way shape or formunless you live in buttfucknowhere grassland with no internet access you're using AI whether you like it or not.
>>22029340How about tasting something you've never used before ? Hell, smelling it would have been enough in this case.
>>22030103>timeline of the universeCotton rots in the timeline of months, retard. >you really don't know how plastic is made, do you?Enlighten us. You're on your scouts honor that you wont use AI to cheat.
ngl I got a hardon when I heard the executives who killed those kids with tampered milk were gonna get executed
>>22030331In china? There's a story about a farmer and salesman being executed. You should know by now that executives get others too pay for their crimes.
>>22029897>Offloading menial tasks to AI frees the human mind to focus on creative endeavors.AIbros say this and all their "creative endeavours" are derivative corpo-core garbage. AI is for idea guys and always has been.
>>22030103>irrelevant since humanity's existence is but a blip on the timeline of the universeabsolutely retarded argument, come on man. I don't even know what you're arguing about that's just a stupid ass thing to say and you know it.
>>22030605You're not wrong but it is very amusing to open a thread that starts with "do you like to use AI to help with recipes guys" and then see you quoting some guy 70 posts later and trying to explain to him why the crazy nonsense he's saying is so fucking dumb. Like the 4chan equivalent of "I promise I won't get political" then 10 shots later.
>>22029303I have a project in my chatgpt where I tell it all the ingredients I have in my home. I'll just open up a new chat when I want to make something and tell it what I want to use and ask it for a recipe under whatever constraints.It has given me some banger recipes that I would have never found or made on my own
The trick to successfully using AI is using it a surface to bounce your own creativity off of, not as a replacement for your creativity. Nobody would say you're outsourcing your creativity by having a brainstorming session with a creative partner, unless that partner happens to be AI then it's a big problem. But it's not really all that different. It just takes a different mindset where you talk to chatgpt conversationally, instead of using it to generate instructions. Don't use it to come up with ideas for you; but if you have an idea, it's healthy to get feedback on that and hone it. Even just explaining your idea and hearing it reflected back at you helps you develop it fuller. I don't ask chatgpt to make recipes for me (I don't really use recipes in general). But if I have an idea of something I want to cook that isn't quite fully formed, I'll bounce it around with chatgpt a bit to refine it, see if I have any blindspots, or maybe it has a suggestion to improve it that I wouldn't have thought of. A lot of times I don't end up using its feedback at all, but just getting my idea out of my head helps me. My cooking has improved significantly since I started using it like this.
>>22029415I regularly have customers accuse me of being a bot on the drive-tnru speaker. Its the same dozen phrases you have to say thousands and thousands of times. They also say I have a voice for radio or a DJ voice. Apparently I just sound too perfect.
>>22029341>t. Sam Altman
>>22029303I made some nice cookies with an AI recipe and I can just ask it to change it according to size and preferences.I hate to say this but I HEAVILY prefer this over all the recipe sites you find Online
>>22029303you will be the first to die.
>>22029342AI tells you what you want to hear anon. it lies to you. AI psychosis is real.
>>22029377>game changerAI typed this.
>>22029303>I used to hate looking up recipes,when you know how to cook you don't need them.
>>22030761Sorry to let you know that someone saying you have a voice for radio is a nice way of saying you are ugly.
>>22029989>Luddites are like slaves that protest the cotton gin making them obsolete. Quill makers hated the invention of the pen. Pen makers hated the invention of the typewriter. Typewriter makers hated the invention of the personal computer.And all of those people were correct. Surely you've noticed that the vast majority of employed people are doing jobs that don't really need to be done? The reason why 90% of jobs in first world nations are some flavor of customer service is because the actual productive, meaningful jobs have been automated away.>The greatest human innovation is creating machines to do the toiling for usAnd yet that's not what's happening, is it? You're still being made to "toil", just at increasingly less dignified and meaningful jobs. Machines haven't freed anyone from labor; all they've done is make is so that the people who might have been working in the fields or crafting quills or pens or typewriters are now stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. Every new "advancement" only serves to make the life of the average human slightly more meaningless.
>>22031126Nah, what really happened was off-shoring manufacturing and the monopolization of our farming to provide soy beans and corn to other countries. Also a degradation of quality that was allowed and encouraged to prioritize profits.Technological progress isn't something to fear, it's just the capitalist that should be held accountable. I'm not a commie, it's obvious capitalism is a good economic system. But it should be maintained to ensure the people are protected. I think it would help a lot if human labor was seen as an asset instead of a cost center.
>>22031133>the world would be a better place if everything were completely differentYeah, no shit.>it's obvious capitalism is a good economic systemI hate to think how much propaganda you had to consume to reach that point. A capitalist system where people are protected from exploitation and capitalists are "held accountable" is even less realistic than something like global communism. You're centuries deep into a perpetual sunken cost fallacy.
>>22029444>up to and including encouraging people to commit suicide.but that's based as hellIf you kill yourself because a robot said so, you shouldn't really be around anyway
>>22029303AI is good for getting recipes from videos. Picrel: I gave it a link to a Gordon Ramsay video and it generated a recipe.You could easily get it to watch an entire playlist of Ramsay videos, extract all the recipes, and export them to a PDF. Make your own celebrity chef recipe books
>>22029332Do the needful and worship billionaires saar
>>22031154I’m guessing you’re American?
>cooking a physical manifestation of AI slop
>>22031350I feel like the most useful thing about this would be to give it a video that is clearly not a recipe and then forcing the AI to make a "recipe" out of it by insisting that it's a recipe even when it tries to tell you otherwise and see what it spits out with the impossible task.
>>22029989you are either a jeet or an extremely shortsighted retard.
>>22030042customer service expert here. you can use it against them to get superior service. dont speak to the machine. first try mashing buttons until it transfers you to a human. if that doesnt work hang up and call back and hang up and call back and hang up and call back. after 4 or 5 of these youll either go directly to a human or get on a list for them to call you back. when you do get ahold of people be polite and paitient. the rep may not be able to complete the request but they will be responsible for getting it to the right people.
>>22031780>customer service expert heredoes this just mean that you complain a lot to customer service lines or do you work on the other side of it
>>22031782i work on the service side. not directly involved with the call centers but Im kept informed on the practices. repeat callers are a top priority for all companies. works the same if there are long hold times and if they are stuck on a script and refuse to transfer to supervisor. worth a shot anytime you need to get around their incompetence. it wont help much when there are real widespread issues like calling the power company after a hurricane.
>>22031790Interesting, one of the more useful pieces of info I've ever read on this board and it doesn't surprise me that it's not cooking-related, thank u anon
>>22029332>private propertyIs the golden calf. Stop worshipping this abomination you godless slave.
It sounds like the restaurant suing Pizza Hut is just pissed that the new system makes it harder to fuck over DoorDash drivers.
>>22030036True, but since it doesn't apply to non-Chinese you're essentially flexing.>>22030044Ignoble kike. You have no idea what "capital" even means.
