is a japanese counter top water heater like this worth it for tea?
>>22048781Tempted to buy one to pull a reverse uno when british people get smug about electric kettles
>>22048781do you drink a lot of tea and would having hot water on hand be convenient for you? if so, then yes. there are people who buy huge permanent direct-piped systems for over $1000.. they are the ones who should really be asking if it's worth it. but a little $180 thing yours is just a matter of if you'll get some joy out of it.
>>22048781bruh we've been over this with rice cookers a thousand times. Just use the stove top
Generally they're only useful at home if you have 3-4 heavy tea drinkers in the house.If you're REGULARLY boiling water 3-4 times a day for tea for 2-3+ people, then yes it can make sense to own one.For the average household it makes no sense, for an individual, it almost never makes sense.The most useful places for these are office kitchen/kitchenettes.
>>22048800why are you pretending that convenience isnt a good reason to buy something? stovetop takes time to boil water, you have to get out the pan, fill it, wait for it to boil, then put the pan away. this is push of a button on demand.
>>22048781if you need constant hot water then sure. we run a woodstove all winter (novemeber-march pretty much all day every day) and so have similarly endless hot water ready to go but just end up with loads of full thermos cantines hanging around because dont drink tea 20 times a day.
>>22048781Anything japanese is worth it?
I don't like the stationary design of it. If you're filling cup after cup of tea leaves and then filling your cup noodles, okay. But I like the simplicity of my bonavita, which has been working 10 years straight.
>>22048830is that a question
>get hottest water from sink>put it on gas stove>it's boiling within 3-5 minutes
>>22048835not bad at all for a homosexual themed kettle
>>22048835this is cute, i actually wanted the kettle for my mom. are there any other brands that are reputable to be 100% stainless steel and no plastic?
2:40 in the microwave
>>220488455 seconds from the button
>>22048835whats the deal with the big spout?
>>22048845>radiationing poisinoning your water
>>22048781Yes, just buy any electric tea kettle.They arent expensive and they work great, even at 120v.
>>22048818People who trade counter space for convenience deserve neither
>>22048781I heckin LOVE boiling water in plastic!
>>22048835>Have stove>NO. I NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON A SEPARATE ELECTRIC HEATER TO BOIL WATERI'll never understand this shit, it's the most retarded purchase of all time.
>>22048818>Boiling water in a pan
>>22048781Not if you're just a single chud sitting at home drinking a couple cups of tea a day. Use pic related for that purpose>>22048859It's for pourover coffee. Extremely gay design, very small capacity, dumb spout that releases a narrow piss stream instead of an actual pour. >>22048841There's a reason they tell you not to do this. It's gross
>people itt unironically use the stove to heat water to make tea or coffee3rd worlders jfc
>>22048955Maybe if you live in yuropoor where houses have the retarded water storage tanks. Water heaters in the US are connected directly to the mains, it's no different than the water you're putting in your goy kettle. As long as your water heater isn't 30 years old and rusted out you're fine.>>22048954>>22048957weak bait
>>22048899just say you have a small low income kitchen bro
>>22048957I used to be like that. I disavowed toasters because I could use a pan on the stove. Never used the oven because I had a dutch oven, etc. It's more of a meme lifestyle that you do to challenge yourself when you have nothing better to do with your time. After I stopped being an unemployed NEET I cut all that out
>>22048995>Water heaters in the US are connected directly to the mainsNo shit. They are still tanks that collect water where it sits waiting for you to use it. Luckily most Americans are not as disgusting as you
>>22048995You use a KETTLE. not a pan, which is retarded and inefficient and will result in tons of steam loss.
>>22049027Closed off, unexposed to the elements. Anything to justify your retarded appliance I guess, not my money.>>22049039Cheapest kettles near me are $12. If you boil water and immediately turn it off, you only lose around 1-2% of the volume. $4 per thousand gallons, I'd have to lose 3000 gallons of water for the teapot to make sense. So I'd have to boil 150,000 gallons of water. A massive swimming pool. It literally does not fucking matter. I'll just keep using the pot I already have. Sneed
>>22048781we can quantify: Case 1: You get a ~3 L heater. You fill it in the morning (to full). Your cup of tea is ~300 mL volume. You will have 10 cups of tea today. That will occur between e.g. 7:30 AM and 3:30 PM, so over 8 hours. (The time window doesn't matter, just the total time you will keep the boiler plugged in). You will need to bring the water you initially fill up from room temperature (say 298 K) to boiling (398K). Then you will need to hold it at 398 K for 8 hours.To bring the water to boiling: E_heat = m*c*dT.3 L = 3000 g (3000 g)*(4.184 J/g K)*(75 K) = 941,400 JTo hold it there for 8 hours: Say a 20 W standby power: (20 W)*(8 hours)*(3600 s/hr) = 576,000 JTotal: 1,517,400 JoulesCase 2: Using a kettle to boil 3 L: Just the 941,400 J, of course 1/10th of that each time, assuming 300 mL per use. Doesn't matter, as long as same volume. Conclusion: If the upfront premium of one these (cheapest: 40 USD more than a kettle, Amazon) plus the cost of 576,000 J of energy is worth it, then yes, you should purchase one.
>>22049060Boiling water uncovered means it takes longer to boil. With a big pan you have lots of surface area for the water to evaporate and cool too.
>>22048999>doesn't have the time or money to afford boiling water manually Hurry to your wage cage buddy
>>22049092>576,000 JHow much is that?
>>22049039And what do you do with that steam? Are you running a steam liner?
>>22049092Where are you getting 20W? The power required to hold it at temp. depends on a great many factors that control one thing, heat loss which is how much energy you need.
>>22049027so it's sitting in a tank waiting for you to use itbut when it's in the pipe between the main and your tap it's perfectly fine!
>>22048837Not yet?
>>22049060>Closed off, unexposed to the elementsYou have indian tier understanding of hygiene>>22049188You're almost there. A boiler concentrates the stuff that's already in the water when it gets to your house. Intentionally opting for lower quality drinking water to save 3 minutes of boiling time is the most 3rd world thing I've ever seen.
>>22049290Post skin.
>>22048781>With temperature controlSince green tea is best brewed at around 70 degrees Celsius, this feature was very useful for Japanese people, but you probably won’t need it.
>>22049425what if I'm brewing green tea?>>22049125I'm a neet, my kitchen is bigger than yours, and i dont need to boil water in a can on a trashcan fire. i cant imagine how that must make you feel.
>>22049427Are you really still drinking green tea?
>>22049434are you gonna tell me it has cyanide laced seed oils in it or something
>>22048781we have one of the vacuum insulated ones. wife loves it because she can fill it with filtered water and always have it at the proper temp for brewing her tea, no waiting.kinda pricey but whatever. I like all my zojirushi appliances.
>>22048781just buy a regular ass whistling kettle for $15 and call it a day. These require more cleaning and unless you're making 18 cups of tea/instant coffee a day I don't see the point.
>>22048800mogs your shitty stove top.
>>22048859Gooseneck spout for more controlled pouring. The design dates back to the 19th century.
>>22048781No. Just get an electric kettle with temperature control.
>>22048934It's so you can keep it at your desk and dont need to go to the kitchen every time you want a cuppa
>>22048800I've done the side by side for stove to kettle. Kettle is the best overall solution. Stove takes forever next to the kettle. A good kettle has multiple temp settings for tea, up to boiling. Done in under 5min or 2.5m for the brits. Any other solution is just fancy for the sake of fancy. Also kettles are great for instant ramen, reconstituting broth, adding hot water to cooking pots, etc. not just coffee/tea/hot chocolate. You can even heat a small bit of water to pre-warm dishes prior to serving the main food. Hot dish, hot food. And if you need some REALLY hot water for cleaning, also useful there too. >>22048841You *can*, but it's gross from a tanked heater. And you better hope you don't live in Flint or some other contaminated place.
>>22049188Here's what is trapped inside that tank:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ppNPRbNysg4Most people fail to flush their water heater tank of all that shit.
>>22050376Oh no! Not the accumulation of the minerals in the water! Crazyyyy
