Be honest, do you ever use AI to improve your cooking or to get ideas?
>>22049352yes. what is the alternative? some stay at home wifey's husband-funded foodblog? The ai answers for how to do basic shit like ratios for pickling brine or pizza sauce are much better and more convenient than anything else you could click on.
>>22049352No.
>>22049352yeah, all the time, it's great. I'm past the point of cooking with recipes so I don't use it to generate whole recipes, just as a brainstorming partner and a platform to bounce ideas around.
>>22049362>I'm past the point of cooking with recipesthis just means you're complacent and you only cook the things you know how to cook and never venture out of your comfort zone.
>>22049352jesus, tf, absolutely not. AI needs to steal pre-written information, and shit like cooking is far too low level that sources are ubiquitous from both professionals, laymen, and dumbasses. Sources on topics like group theory, topology, and basic comp sci are common enough from intelligent writers since these topics aren't that complex, but not too simple that dumbasses aren't smart enough to get into them so their input is precluded. Using AI for cooking is like half a tier better than using the recipe book from instant pot. Just use fucking google like a sane person and browse through multiple reputable sites including youtube.
>>22049352no but i have asked it for medical advice and it produced more complete and more accurate information than my doctor. I'm pretty sure another doctor used it during an appointment with me to double check something he was saying. so what I'm saying is ai is getting pretty good and i will use it for cooking tips next time i think i need help
>>22049368>Just use fucking google like a sane person and browse through multiple reputable sites including youtube.legitimately can't tell if this is bait or srs
>>22049371Have you ever done any research, like ever?
>>22049368Retarded.
>>22049366wrong.
>>22049375when's the last time you cooked a dish you've never heard of before?
>>22049366actually, I'm a more adventurous cook than I ever have been. once you understand the fundamentals and processes of cooking, you really don't need step-by-step recipes anymore (for most things, I will admit there are exceptions). they can be a handy reference for knowing the ingredients and stuff but are often lacking in information, and to even get a good idea of a new dish you need to look over multiple recipes and secondary sources. I still do that sometimes but AI is good at cutting through the bullshit and extracting the information you really need. it's also good for sharpening your ideas, catching things you might miss, reigning you in when you need it to, and giving sparks for inspiration that you can follow. the anti-AI fearmongering is stupid. it's a great tool if you learn to use it as a honing rod for your thinking, not a replacement for your thinking. there are legitimate reasons to be against AI and I think you do need to be careful how you use it, but it's legitimately useful for cooking.
>>22049352No but now I might.
>>22049373if you believe google and youtube constitute "research" then i should be asking you the same question.
>>22049352Anyone who has any remotely decent recipe on their website has chatgpt blocked, so no.
>>22049352since you said be honest yes i have asked chatgpt if certain retarded recipe ideas or food combinations were a good idea with the full understanding that it has 0 way of knowing and will always agree with me.
>>22049386So you think looking into the experiences of real people who test out their recipes, document their process, take pictures and videos, describe their pitfalls, and comparing these experiences, isn't valid research?
>>22049374You know this is a dumb person when zero real criticism or argument is given.
>>22049352Its surprisingly good at giving tips on how to use a slow-cooker to make weed butter and just slow-cookers in general.
>>22049390no, i dont think watching tv is research.
>>22049394>No u!You're talking out of your ass about something you don't use. You're retarded.
>>22049403>something you don't useLol, reread my initial post. You can tell when idiots are talking by how they argue. It's very easy to pick people like you out. Im gonna use the same tactic you used in your last post. Are you smart enough to figure out why?>You're stupid because you don't even cook, nor know how to cook wellOnly a stupid people would argue like this, people like you. Do you even know what an LLM is?
No. I know how to cook. I mostly use it to "Google" for me since Google itself is patently worthless now and can't give me relevant fucking results anymore. I asked Google about making suji at home and it have me directions for sushi. I changed the spelling to su ji, suchi, su chi, suchee and su chee and each time, the results were retardedly irrelevant. ChatGPT sucks now, too, after the most recent updates but at least it 1) knew what suji is so I didn't have to find out how to write it in Chinese and 2) gave clear directions on how to make it at home (too involved; fuck that noise).>>22049366Nonsense, you fucking retard. >>22049362I did that once. It suggested cooking mussels with yellow capsicums. It was okay, but very, very sweet. It did think up an interesting idea for pizzas I was cooking for a get-together: dhungar-ing them shits to make it seem like they were wood-fired.
>>22049352sometimes i ask it to help pair flavors or entree/sides. i never trust it for recipes.
i use it all the time, mostly to tell me how long to cook food in an oven. it works fine
>>22049352AI saved me $20 yesterday. I wanted to buy a bulk bag of horseradish powder thinking I could use that to make fake wasabi. Turns out you can't use just regular horseradish powder you need freeze dried horseradish powder to get that wasabi nose punch.
>>22049370>more complete and more accurate information than my doctorAre you a doctor? No? Then how would you know? It's just telling you what it thinks you want to hear, and will happily make up shit and citations if it thinks that's what you want.
only if im low on ingredients and have trouble thinking of what to make with them. i always have a prompt to ask it to pretend to be on Chopped. I like how in character it believes
>>22049352i know how to cook.if i ever need a recipe it's for baking.i don't really bake.i made some chili peanut butter cookies about 14 years ago.that was the last time i baked.>>22049366>being past the point of cooking with recipes means you're ALWAYS cooking the same thing... that's in the recipesnow that's the craziest mental gymnastics i've seen yet.
>>22049368>AI needs to steal pre-written information>steala librarian doesn't steal from the library, they just point you to the information they have available.
>>22049391what makes you think ai is a valid librarian?why would you think it's autonomous and has agency?
>>22049394>criticism or argumentcritics = people with hot opinions.arguers = people with a problem.nobody sane argues, they discuss.nobody sane critiques, they silently judge and move on.
>>22049358What blogs even exist in the post-internet era?Especially from non-americans.
>>22049707As in the internet is dead. Yeah sure there's still places like here, IRC and usenet. But nobody actually engages with the internet that way outside of the stragglers.
I tried to use it. Was making two dishes, both asking for onions, but had only enough for one of them. However I also had shallots.>Should I use shallots for X and onions for Y or the reverse?"yes you should used shallots for X and onions for Y and here's why">Mhhhh>>Should I use shallots for Y and onions for X or the reverse?"yes you should used shallots for Y and onions for X and here's why"Utterly useless sycophant.
>>22049358nigga where do you think the AI trained to get the answer to all the ratios and shit? the fucking mom blogs dogs
The AI likes to take a bunch of recipes and hybridize them. Which means everything is ingredient maxxed. Making recipes overly complex wastes a lot of money and effort and I think gnerally taste worse than simplicity
>>22049634A librarian doesn't cut out words from the books and glues them together how he sees fit. Now imagine that librarian not having eyes and not having tasted a single thing in his life. To mitigate that he calculated an average for every recipe in the library's cooking section. You arrive at the library and the librarian's book is waiting for you on the counter. Are you going to bother reading it?
>>22049702Most good content went behind a paywall since 2012. There are good blogs left, but in niche subjects: food science, regional cuisines, historical research or because of ethical motivation. Ironically, AI is fantastic at sniffing out who is pocketing corporate bux and who isn't. For Italy Gambero Rosso (once 100% legit) and Giallo Zafferano are massive scraping operations. While as big, The Slow Food Foundation and related associations and chefs remains hardcore legit, more than ever before, even - they're hardcore anti-bullshit. They're active on a much smaller scale in 160 countries, but definitely a highly reliable source to start from and regularly return to. Pic very much related.
>>22049352It completely removed the need to try and make sense of imperial units and for that alone it has my respect.
>>22049865lol same for me i can ask it convert europoor weights into volumes so I dont have to fuck with scales
>>22049352There are two instances where you would use AI for cooking:1) You're cooking for photos. (even then there's a danger of fire or chemical fumes killing you)2) You're suicidal masochist. 'Nuff said.
I like thar AI removes all ads and blogs but sometimes are good clues that youre reading a bad recipie. GPT is the ghetto ass Ai
> SthometimesIt's nice to enter whatever protein dish I want and ask it for high fiber side options
No
>>22049352hey chat what were the most influential french cookbooks of the last 300 years>go to archive.org and downloaded all of them>feed them to chatI then told it what I like, and how many im feeding, and then told it to print me a weekly meal schedule for my review, upon which i approve and have it build me a grocery list from that very meal plan and then just have those ingredients delivered.I've never eaten so well.
>>22049352I use it constantly to get ideas for seasoning blends. If I want to create a cajun seasoning for something like turkey breast I'd just use generic store bought cajun seasonings, but GPT usually suggests a blend that gets me there without using much salthas also helped me recreate dishes I've seen on youtube or tiktok or whatever where the person doesn't bother giving any measurements or if they do its another>follow this link to my websitewhere the link doesn't work or the website is full of ads
>>22049352I use it to convert from American measure units to real measuring units
>>22049352fuck no.
>>22049352no. the only time I even need a recipe is when I want the actual original recipe for some type of food. once I make something I rarely need the recipe again. I am at the point where I can make nearly anything without recipes or the internet.
>>22049386actually all the worst cooklets i've seen are on instagram tiktok and yt shortsyou'll run into a ja/ck/ every so often on yt but at least those failures are taking their fourth strokes seriously enough to set up an actual camera so you can watch their arteries clog in full HDgeneral rule of thumb if you're following a recipe filmed by a ham planet in portrait mode then you're dumber than they are