>McDonald's removed Super Size and replaced it with salads and other """healthy""" options>they also rebranded themselves to appear more """mature""" by retiring the mansard roof design and painting colorful restaurant walls with grayscale and earth tones>their cartoon mascots were also retired>other major fast food chains followed suitI wasn't around to know what it was like when Super Size Me released. Did this one person really send an entire industry into damage control? What would the average fast food restaurant look like today if the movie was never made? Would menus and restaurant appearances look closer to how they did in the 1990s?
>>22055973Removing the super size option could probably be attributed to the movie, but the other things you mentioned probably would've been done anyway because it was more profitable. Not having to pay for mascot stuff, having basic buildings that could more easily be resold and acting as placeholders for desirable real estate don't really have anything to do with the movie.
>>22055973It didn't help, but he wasn't the only thing that influenced it. I was a manager there then, the super size options weren't that popular. That said, everyone always looks for a good excuse to be more economical, and if you can spin it to look healthier, so much the better. I never noticed a drop in sales or customer count at that time though.
moving from kids to adults was only a matter of time whether this movie happened or not. fast food was not always a cutesy kid oriented place. that was a short time from like 1985-2000
>>22055973Yes, granted for all the wrong reasons, considering most of it was just made up.
>>22055984Yeah the whole family kid oriented thing was when they didn't have as many locations as they do now. I remember when I was a kid going to a shopping mall in the early 90's we'd always get McDonalds because that was the only one around, like 25 minutes away. Now they're everywhere. It used to kind of be like Buc-ee's where it was a stop on a road trip or something. Not anymore.
>>22055973The best way I can put this is that Morgan spurlock was a precursor to youtube videos. If this doc didn't exist and you saw a video show up on youtube one day along the lines of "I ate nothing but mcdonalds for 30 days and this is what happened" would you really bat an eye? Of course not, and yet that's literally what this documentary is. So would anything have changed? Probably not. The only difference would probably be that some other guy would've been famous for all this and Spurlock would still be dead from alcoholism.
>>22055973It's time we brought this option back.
OP, Yes. I was probably 18 when all this shit went down. Right when I had a car, and was able to get fast food on my own. Those were the days. I didnt realize it at the time but i was pissed that they got rid of the super size me option....i didnt even eat fast food hardly ever! You said it right though, thats why it is totallty souless now. They dont want to fuck around with any lawsuits and shit, so...grey it is. Its sad and pathetic.I remember eating at a burger king next to this play set thing, it was so cool they actually had bad ass landscaping, i felt like i was in the middle of the woods or something,.
>>22055973When I was a freshman in highschool in the early 2000s, we had to take a "physical education" class and it was "weight lifting" for me. They made us watch this movie in class and do a book report on it. I even remember the teacher saying "he looks like he's always hungover", but we all thought it was from the food
>>22055973I think the funny part was them "getting rid of super sizing". "Super sizing" was literally just making your combo "large" and it's still completely normal. Like they literally ONLY changed the verbiage lmao
>>22055973>Industrynobody fucking cares about it, op.fast food jobs are for 3 groups of people:>teenagers>older women>losersthe food is for everybody, but only the jobs matter.
>>22056084>i felt like i was in the middle of the woods or somethinghow high were you?
Supersizing was bullshit anyway. You got a few extra fries and the clerks would put more ice in the slightly bigger drink containers. It didn't apply to the burgers or the nuggets.
>>22055993Yup, dude was just a drunk ass moron eating a bunch of mcdonalds and blaming everything that went wrong on the mcdonalds, not the tons of alcohol he was drinking off camera.
>>22055973Yes people liked to the blame the alcoholic attention whore. However, we probably still wouldn't be able to get a pound of French fries for a dollar in this day an age.
>urrgh>that mcgriddle is really doing it's thing down there>better wash it down with some popov
>>22055973His dick stopped working! Lol!
>>22055973The greyscaling push is because fast food businesses shifted from a focus on food to real estate. Its all to maximize resale value. No business wants to purchase a building with a pizza hut roof.
>>22055973no, ackerman did more damage then this drunk fool
>>22055973>Did this one person really send an entire industry into damage control?Yes but despite how purposely misleading the documentary was it was still fundamentally correct. The main reason Americans are fat is the consumption of slop combined with the unconscious normalization of bigger and bigger portions of that slop.
>>22056616exactly, he could have been eating a carefully prepared macrobiotic diet and if he was washing it down with a handle of vodka a day he'd still be fucked, disingenuous alky cunt.
>>22056623i never watched the movie but i saw clips of him vomiting after eating and that seemed so ridiculous to me and i don't know how anyone didn't suspect something was up. people might complain of diarrhea sometimes but if the food was actually making people vomit i'm pretty sure that would deter most people even if they were big slop eaters.
That faggot died at 53So much for his gay documentary
>>22056445Hey now, most of those 3 categories are minorities now, don't be so bigoted!
>>220569262 super sized fries in a single day (and then having them again the next day) might catch up with you with the amount of salt you're consuming. (Not including the salt they put in burgers and even some of the drinks)
>>22055973They always wanted to branch out for more menu items. Healthy options was in style then.
>>22056930That was soon after he was cancelled for being a sex creep or something and lost all his progressive liberal street cred. They took away his lifes work and then he died knowing his legacy wasn't going to respected leftist documentarian like Michael Moore but creepy weirdo sex guy. That really must have chapped his ass in his last days.
>>22057032He was probably too blitzed to care
>>22057033>In December 2017, Spurlock wrote a blog post admitting to what he described as a history of sexual misconduct.[50] In the midst of the #MeToo movement, Spurlock stated: "I've come to understand after months of these revelations, that I am not some innocent bystander, I am also a part of the problem."[6] In the post, he said that he committed sexual misconduct in his past, including being "unfaithful to every wife and girlfriend [he] ever had".[51] Spurlock recounts settling a sexual harassment allegation, brought by his assistant at his production company, Warrior Poets, for verbal harassment including yelling for her as "hot pants" or "sex pants" from across the office.[51]>In the same post, Spurlock also recounted that he had been accused of sexual assault while in college.[10] Spurlock wrote that while still "in college, a girl who I hooked up with on a one night stand accused me of rape. Not outright. There were no charges or investigations, but she wrote about the instance in a short story writing class and called me by name." He wrote: "This wasn't how I remembered it at all [...] She believed she was raped. That's why I'm part of the problem." Spurlock said both he and the woman had been heavily drinking the night of the incident, and that during sex she had begun crying, and they had stopped.[3][51]>After publishing his blog post, Spurlock stepped down from his position with Warrior Poets, the company he had co-founded in 2004.[52] The move ended his career as a documentary filmmaker.[10] Spurlock told the Associated Press in 2019: "For me, there was a moment of kind of realization—as somebody who is a truth-teller and somebody who has made it a point of trying to do what's right—of recognizing that I could do better in my own life. We should be able to admit we were wrong."[9] Additionally, he told Deadline: "Part of the reason I wrote that essay in the first place was to be on the right side of it. I'm hopeful that in time, with the wo
>>22057052if you willingly get drunk I will never convict someone of raping you. it's like getting drunk and running someone over then suing them for damaging your car.
>>22057056low iq post
I can't believe eating Mcdonalds has the same effects as chronic alcoholism
>>22055973it was a stupid documentary. In reality, any amount of McDonald's is bad for you. McDonald's uses preservatives in literally everything they sell. Those preservatives are what contribute to obesity, not portion sizes. The preservatives in the buns they use that are designed not to go bad on the shelf, the cheese they use which is naturally just caked in preservatives as it is, and the burger patties that have preservatives so the food doesn't go bad in long-term freezer storage. The french fries come in a frozen bag, they're cooked in a fry oil that has anti-foaming agents added to it to maximize their profits, they don't give a flying fuck if it causes cancer or not. and the FDA doesn't care either.
>>22057694>Those preservatives are what contribute to obesity, not portion sizes. You could maybe claim that some preservatives have negative effects but to claim that obesity doesn't have anything to do with the higher calorie count from ultraprocessed food is ridiculous.
>>22057700fries have TBHQ, SAPP, and dimethylpolysiloxane in them. The old beef tallow fries were better for you.
>>22057703Yes, I'm not arguing that McDonald's is healthy and all the additives are completely harmless. But blaming preservatives for obesity in meal that is loaded with refined starch/sugar/oil which are all high calorie, low nutrient density, low satiety, quick digesting, etc. is misinformed.
>>22055973>if the movie was never madeWhat you mean: if everyone knew Morgan was actually killing his body with alcohol.
>>22056616Fella was a full blown alcoholic. Ruined the entire experiment aspect of it by lying about / hiding that fact
>>22057708This guy gets it
>>22057703The tallow fry shops use has dimethylpolysiloxane too.
>>22055973>If I change my diet 180 instantly, always order the largest portion size offered, cram it all down my gullet even when I'm already full and actively gagging, while also chugging alcohol between takes, I get ill!Regular reminder that the scene towards the end where he goes to see the doctors again and one of them tells him to stop because he's hurting himself is footage filmed at the start. The doctor is wearing the same clothes, has the same haircut and stubble growth and has the same paper and objects in the same position on his desk. Spurlocks reaction shot is blatantly another room as the background decor is totally different. Then it cuts to him calling his mother and her sobbing telling him she can have her liver if he needs it (noone mentioned livers at that point). It was his alcoholism diagnosis, not them telling him to cut down the McDonald's.
>>22055978Another important thing is that all this still happened in other countries who didn't even have American size "large" stuff, let alone "super sizes".
>>22057032Being MeToo'd definitely won't have helped Super Size Me's rep but it was also pretty sloppily made. Undisclosed alcoholism aside the guy didn't even keep a food log
>>22057052> "hot pants" or "sex pants"man is a simpsons and it crowd fan
>>22055973>they also rebranded themselves to appear more """mature""" by retiring the mansard roof design and painting colorful restaurant walls with grayscale and earth tones>their cartoon mascots were also retired>other major fast food chains followed suitAll of that happened years before super size me
>>22055973Super Size is really fucking stupid and it is still unjustifiably overpriced but really franchise owners were getting screwed. I think they would've phased out the mascots anyway pretty much every other resturant did it also, things just don't connect with kids the same. Think about clowns other than our boy Ronald. Who the fuck wants to see a clown? Kids used to ask for them
has anyone ever seen someone buy a salad from mcdonalds? like who the fuck goes to a fast food place for a salad nigga
>>22057927I did once, a wilted sad thing, never again
>>22057927In the mid-2010s the Southwest Salad was really not bad, it had good portions, toppings, dressing that came with it and they would even put a slice of lime on th side. If you're too young to remember that or never got it, I can agree that the current crop of fast food salads are trash
>>22057927It's not for people to buy. It's for optics.
>>22055973A few questionsWhy did mcdicks need a documentary to stop what they were doing? If they knew it was wrong, why did they stop?Why did they stop anyway? Is their corporate leadership and direction ("""""5 year plan"""""???) so flimsy that a media hit piece can make them change their entire direction?
>>22058088>stop
>>22057927they had a fruit salad one year, it was pretty good
>>22056763Nobody itt thread knows who Bill Ackermann is and nobody's going to bother to look him up.>>22055973In much the same way nobody ever bothered to look up this guy's claims. Except for the fatties itt. There was no industry impact whatsoever. People who wanted to eat well already avoided fast food places. The real industry impact came from Carlo Petrini 15 years earlier.
>>22055973>replaced it with saladsGaslighter, they've had salads easily since the 90s.
>>22058088This nigga doesn't understand optics
>>22055973owned.
>>22055973Seeing the public reaction to this movie was one of the scariest moments of my life. For all the jokes about McDonalds making you fat, giving you a heart attack and so on, people were still SHOCKED to find out eating fast food 3 times a day for a month or w/e is unhealthy.
>>22056015trvke.
>>22056100kek thats amazing
https://www.reviewjournal.com/life/teacher-loses-37-pounds-eating-only-mcdonalds/
Super-Size was for little girls and rump rangers. Real men only ordered Dino-Size combos.
Fathead was a better documentary
>>22058575Don was actually in 'Super Size Me' as a counterpoint to Spurlock. IIRC, his main point was that he skipped the fries and cola, eating just Big Macs, which is interesting since the sandwich is the one part of the super size combo whose size isn't increased.
>>22056926I remember having a health nut teacher that claimed she tried a big Mac for the first time in 20 years again and immediately vomited and I thought that was a massive performative lie kek there's nothing nauseating about it
>>22058621The content was better but I didn't care for the presenter's personality. He seemed like the type of person who would cut his lawn at 8am on Sunday because he knows it annoys the neighborhood.
>>22058624>there's nothing nauseating about itIf I get a Big Mac that's been in the warmer for too long, I find the lettuce to be borderline nauseating. If your weirdo teacher was accustomed to eating fresh salads, a borderline old Big Mac could be revolting due to the veggies.
>>22056642Purchasing a building with a pizza hut roof is keyed thoThe greyscale buildings are ugly
The only burger that ever made me sick like spurlock was from five guys. Not sure what that suggests.
>>22058632Thats fair, personally I disliked the animated sections.
>>22058638Warmer? They're all supposed to be made to order, guys. They haven't used a bin, or a buffer - a holding area - for years now. If you want to know whether it's been held in a warmer see if it still has cheese on it. The sauce is acidic enough that if it's held longer than about 6-7 minutes (technically 10 minutes) it disintegrates the cheese. That's how they used to check us for cheating on holding times 30 years ago.
>>22058678All of that might be true now as I stopped eating there around the time I graduated university.
>>22055973the movie was more of an excuse, you're laughably naive if you don't realize that mcdonalds puts so much money into market prediction that they weren't already gearing up to make those changes. plus a film takes 1-2 years to produce on a fast schedule starting with its pitch, so it's not out of the question that mcdonalds passively supported the film both to excuse menu changes and to bring more focus on itself. as a PR scheme it's actually brilliant, and would have worked in that particular media era
>>22055984that was always the plan, you imprint your product on children and they'll keep eating it forever out of nostalgia. if you think about demographics millenials were the last big generation of children, every year the number for every youth cohort has dropped since 2000. mcdonalds was well aware that we were moving to a low birth rate nation
>>22058678this, it takes 5 seconds to put cold lettuce on a big mac tops. it's more efficient to stage everything and assemble on the quick
>>22056642The real estate stuff goes back far further than that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TrcGLGzF8
>>22058624Seconding the other guy. I don't even eat well and every time I go through a phase of eating mcdonalds (rather than a different fast food to be clear) it always ends up ending because sometimes you get a bunch of lettuce on your mcchicken that just turns your stomach and it will put me off mcdonalds for months.
>>22056623>shows blatant symptoms of alcoholism>makes millions
>>22055973wasn't he boozing heavily during filming or something
>>22058804Yep, which is why everything you see now ir nostalgia remakes or ip themed meal deals. Gotta cash in on millennials and 90s kid memories. Kids now dont get anything new, they just get "hey we liked this when we were kids you will too" soulless copy and then they just buy it for themselves
>>22056642>No business wants to purchase a building with a pizza hut roof.
>>22056926I've really only vomited from eating fast food twice(Burger King and Whattaburger), and it was always an hour or so afterwards, so it was likely bad ingredients or something. Also had intense abdominal pain with it.
>>22058909Yes.IIRC, he also went from being vegan directly into gorging on McDonalds. So even ignoring the alcoholism, no shit if you make a sudden major diet change you’ll feel like hammered shit.
