Went to the supermarket. Whole fish are half the price of individual fish fillets. Same fish. How the hell did the world get so fucked up that more product is worth less, at least as far as fish is concerned?
>>22059806>How the hell did the world get so fucked up that more product is worth less,People pay for convenience.Often quite a bit.
>>22059806How new are you?Check out what cubed fruit costs.
>>22059828How do you grow cube shaped fruit?
>>22059806If you buy a beef rump roast and cut it into steaks it's cheaper than buying rump steaks
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>>22059806those shorts are criminally too short
>>22059806>why do people pay more to have work done for them? omg what has the world come to?How dumb are you?
>>22059806you just wanted to force us look at a sexy guy and his fish, didnt you?
>>22059844What work? Removing delicious parts?
>>22059806As stated, processing makes things expensiveI'm Asian, and I've noticed westerners don't tend to eat whole fish, mostly fillets. It comes down to knife and fork not being suitable to eat it at all, most don't even know how to eat it so they just go for fillet. Chopsticks excel at picking the flesh off bones so you see a lot of fish with bones in Asian dishes
>>22059865Nonsense. I'm a Westerner. I and my entire country and all neighbouring countries buy and cook fish whole. Don't conflate all westerners with can't-cook-for-shit Anglos. All anglo cultures are western, but most westerners are not Anglo.
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>>22059806This is true for all meat.
>>22059920Are you telling me pig is cheaper than pork? because I might trade up
>>22059913>Don't conflate all westerners with can't-cook-for-shit Anglosdont conflate americans with anglos, our bongistan supermarkets sell whole fish on ice but yanks do not like bones in their fish, so much so they view mackerel as a trash fish>a pic of stargazy pie for cultural evidence
>>22059830by not having a skill issue
>>22059830my giving it cubed shaped water and nutrition, duh
>>22059913you cook everything whole because your country didnt get its first refrigerator until 1992
>>22059958That doesn't even make sense. You're retarded.
>>22059952I thought Stargazy was pilchard, not mackerel. I like both but prefer mackerel. About to eat mackerel for dinner, actually. Also, Brits, like all Anglo cultures, tend to prefer fillets and fingers/sticks. They'll eat whole fish but somewhat begrudgingly these days and fish as a whole is in decline throughout the UK. Pity, too, because British waters have some great seafood.>>22059958We were slightly late to the party, but we've had refrigerators since the 1920s. The US had them since 1913 but they didn't become common in homes until 1924. We've had them since 1925 but then the war happened and they didn't become common until 1951 when we started building them ourselves rather than importing ones from Britain or the US. But that's neither here nor there. Cutting up fish is not dependent on refrigeration. You fucking retard.
>>22059806Do you know how to filet and debone a fish?
>>22059806For me its scales
>>22059847The average person at your supermarket apparently just wants a fillet that they don't need to scale or remove the pin bones or remove the head or fins from etc, so the higher demand and extra work needed to process it makes it cost more. You, the guy pretending that you make fish stock every other day so you enjoy processing every fish you come across from scratch, are not the average consumer in your area. The vast majority of people do not desire the constituent parts to make homemade fish stock so having the fish in its more unprocessed form is a massive inconvenience to them if they're not cooking the fish whole.This shouldn't need explaining. Were you really too dumb to figure it out yourself?
>>22060010Imagine being so culinarily bankrupt that you think the only use for a whole fish is to "make fish stock every other day".Imagine having never even seen a whole fish for sale so you think the fishmonger just tosses them into the bag with scales, fins and guts intact.Imagine being so unknowledgeable of life outside of Babyjesusburg, West Virginia that you honestly think everyone else on earth not only eats Mrs Paul's fish sticks as their only significant exposure to seafood but actively avoids whole fish altogether.Just imagine. Imagine how much of a fat, sweaty mongoloid anyone who would believe this would be.If she didn't die years ago, I would swear you were Simply Sara.
>>22059806of course it's significantly more expensive per pound, for two reasons:-they have to pay a wagie to fillet the fish for you.-fillets have no waste, meanwhile when you're buying a whole fish you're also paying for the head, the fishbone and other parts that you're going to scrap.many people buy fillets even if they're more expensive because they can't debone the fish themselves or just for the convenience.
>>22059830Ask your mom, she made you.
>>22059806Anon learns that labor has a cost.
>>22059957>cube shaped water
Labor costs in countries founded by white people are abnormally high.
>>22059806Because if you take a whole fish and filet it, you'll probably end up with more expensive fillets than if you bought them already prepared, unless you're very good at fileting.And it's not like there is a ton more to most fishes than filets anyways. Unless you love fishbones, for some reason.
>>22060072Why are you quoting me when it's OP that has the issues you're talking about? I'm just explaining to him why people at his supermarket desire fillets enough that they're selling at a premium where he shops. I get you're assmad that I called you dumb but it's because you are. Normal people understand paying more for convenience, but you needed that explained.
>>22059806man, no wonder the greeks were all Gay
>>22060072>>22059958both of you are fucking stupid
>>22060637You can't read.
>>22059806>Put in work>Value increasescornerstone of our economy
>>22061308You're just wrong and angry. Stay that way, gay retard.
>>22060072>>22059958>>22061299All four of us are fucking stupid.
>>22061336Oh, bless your heart. You're so precious. What, pray tell, am I wrong about? My one and only post in this thread before >>22061308 was >>22060072 and nothing in either was wrong. You've utterly abysmal reading comprehension skills.
>>22061344I live on a coastline so I purchase fish truly fresh and unmolested from boats if I feel like doing the processing myself, no fishmonger needed. No, a fish is not truly whole if you had someone do the things you can't to make it easier to cook. Maybe it makes you feel better to think so.
>>22061376That's nice, dear. Totally believable. : )
>>22061382Concession accepted. Whine to your fishmonger/therapist about it, cooklet.
>>22061383Correct. I did accept your concession. I'm glad we agree, concession-kun. Maybe you'll figure out that whole fish have more utility than simply to "make fish stock every other day" if you work on your reading comprehension skills.
Back in the 1980s, it was common the see entire cooked fish, including the head, on buffet lines and at soul food restaurants. Going to guess mechanization* of the fish cleaning process made fillets more affordable, leading to them being the standard. Not sure where OP is, but around here if you wanted a whole fish, you'd have to pay extra since it's an uncommon order. Maybe Asian markets still have them at a low price. * could also be due to tens of millions of immigrants working under the table
>>22061416>mechanizationNope! At least not until surprisingly recently.Believe it or not, fish are generally still processed by hand. A good friend of mine worked as a fish cutter for years. Before he got that job, I was under the same impression, that the process was entirely mechanised. Mechanisation only truly started in the mid 2010s and is now (as of 2021) starting to use AI, X-rays and water jets to find and remove pin bones. They're so accurate now, that the prior problem of fish varying in size so a machine couldn't process them without leaving behind a massive amount of wasted meat no longer applies.
>>22059806>more product is worth lessThat's literally always the case. Try googling "buying in bulk".
>>22061401Anon you don't even know what a whole fish actually is and the thought of someone doing something as simple as removing the scales themselves is unbelievable to you, so I have serious doubts you've ever made stock of any kind, fish or otherwise. You're embarrassing yourself at this point.
>>22060010The issue isnt that people want it its that its so expensive. The cost is correlated to how much people will pay NOT how much it costs to make.
>>22061467Both are a factor because if it costs more to make than people are willing to pay then it doesn't get made in the first place unless it's a loss leader.
>>22061456Still can't read, huh?
>>22061477I again humbly accept your concession and I'll stop picking on you now. I genuinely hope you have a nice day and eventually get over your insecurities about processing fish yourself. It's very fun to do and you may come to enjoy it.
>>22059806>Whole fish are half the price of individual fish fillets. Same fish.Labor cost is insane in first world countries. If a business has to hire a worker to literally do anything, even something as mundane as filleting the fish, it costs them a lot after the salary, insurance, medical etc. The cost is naturally forwarded to you, the customerBy the way, when they fillet the fish, the bones, head, skin and innards, basically everything inedible gets sold to pet food companies. Even after that income, the labour cost of the Mexican on the assembly line isn't offset. Go figure
>>22061485You can't read, but thank you for your concession, retard-kun.
>>22061497>Labor cost is insane in first world countries.Low key making me support slavery
