Is anyone keeping tabs on what's happening in the banana industry? Over the years I've heard several times that the Cavendish banana is heading towards the same fate as the Gros Michel due to some sort of spreading fungal infection. My question is: are they spraying some sort of new fungicide to protect the current crop or doing anything of the sort?All my life I've always thought tomatoes taste like literal poison and I'm pretty sure it's because they have such a high water content and they're absorbing the pesticides more than other produce. Now I've noticed the same is becoming true of bananas. Not nearly to the same degree, I assume because they don't have the same heightened water content, but it's really bumming me out that I can't enjoy eating a banana without a light after taste of poison. Yeah I can probably switch to organic, but I probably won't unless I ring them up at the self-checkout as standard bananas.
>>22061140>All my life I've always thought tomatoes taste like literal poison and I'm pretty sure it's because they have such a high water content and they're absorbing the pesticides more than other produce. Now I've noticed the same is becoming true of bananas. Not nearly to the same degree, I assume because they don't have the same heightened water content, but it's really bumming me out that I can't enjoy eating a banana without a light after taste of poison. Yeah I can probably switch to organic, but I probably won't unless I ring them up at the self-checkout as standard bananas.Nah they taste as they always have, you're just autistic
>>22061140apparently they use pesticides and fungicides that are so potent that the children of the plantations'workers are often deformed and retarded due to their effects
>>22061156Being autistic doesn't mean I'm wrong though.>>22061168Interesting to note. I wonder if they changed the mixture to reduce such things. If that's the case then I want the old stuff back.
>>22061140the fungal infection that effects conventional banana crops is extremely resistant to fungicidesTR4 fungicide research is between a rock and a hard place where it's near-exclusively privately funded producing arguably skewed and potentially unproductive research, and the worlds top agronomists and plant researchers aren't really working on it because, while one of the most widely traded fruit crops, isn't an economical staple crop for first world countriesin other words, top universities don't want to allocate public funds and research to crops that farmers in their countries aren't growing in the first place, so the banana cartel has to try to hire/contract researchers to work for them privately which is a pretty tough sell in a very lucrative and comfy academic space (i make a comical amount of money for the work that i do, and all the phd cropsci guys are making 2-4x my pay for half the work on top of usually having lucrative professor positions outside of the growing season)you may or may not be surprised to learn the most public research (to my knowledge) going into this is in china>>22061176the mixtures are regularly changed but rest assured it's not for that reason lmao, if anything it gets stronger every single time. the newly released stuff doesn't need to/can't adequately test for that ESPECIALLY in fungicide registration. i'd bet my life savings on a delaro scandal in the next 30 years
>>22061237>the mixtures are regularly changedWell the current one sucks.>rest assured it's not for that reasonI will rest easier knowing they for sure don't care about their slave workers.Thanks for the insider info! Exactly the kind of guy I was hoping would see my post.
>>22061140Tomatoes taste bad because they're picked green and underripe then treated with ethylene gas to turn them red, but it doesn't ripen them. So you're basically just eating underripe fruit which usually tastes bad. Unless you know you can get proper ripe tomatoes then you're better off using canned.
>>22061237interesting read. Thanks, Dr. Banananon
>>22061265Interesting. I do like things made from tomatoes, usually just not a tomato itself. Do they do that to a worse extent with cherry tomatoes? Those things are little grenades that absolutely explode with the taste of poison when I bite into them, way worse than large conventional tomatoes.
>>22061279I think cherry tomatoes are a little less likely to be picked underripe actually. If you dislike them even more then it could be the higher amount of skin adding some bitterness and tannins.
>>22061309Hmm, or maybe it's because they're never cut and are always bursting with juice. I've never actually bitten into a normal sized tomato before, only ever tried it raw if it was sliced and/or diced, so maybe the air exposure helps relieve some of whatever the taste I don't like is.
>>22061309Almost all commercially produced cherry tomatoes are not ethylene treated and have naturally ripened>>22061311It does effect the flavor, fairly significantly compared to a lot of other (botanical) fruits. It's also heavily influenced by temperature.For mass-produced field crop tomatoes, aside from the practice of ethylene color-"ripening", the selected cultivars have flavor pretty much at the bottom of the list of reasons to grow, as opposed to maximizing output and hardiness.Moreso than many other crops, the advice that you often hear to try biting into a heirloom variety naturally ripened tomato grown in somebodies backyard is 1000% true. The difference is so intense it can be blackpilling. I would never in my life take a bite out of a storebought tomato but just eat them right out of my garden, thick sliced with a little salt preferably. Rabbits and chipmunks love them too little fuckers
>>22061322>The difference is so intense it can be blackpilling.I believe it. It sucks how even fruits and vegetables have become mass produced goyslop.>Rabbits and chipmunks love them too little fuckersLol
>>22061140I taste that too. Anyone with a decent sense of tastes does, and I've confirmed as much through conversation. It's depressing honestly, and that's why I tend to avoid most produce in general. It's literally poisoned against us.
I can only eat organic bananas because the other ones taste like pure shit and they go bad quicker also.
>>22061140>>22061608Some people will seize upon anything to try and act like they're "not like the other girls". Now it's fucking tomatoes.
>>22061618People talking about why fresh supermarket tomatoes don't taste good has been going on for a while. Claiming it's due to poison is new, however.
>>22061608You taste it in bananas or tomatoes or all produce?>>22061618>>22061631I had no idea this was a thing. Even when I was a little kid I would say it tastes like poison. I dunno if it's literal poison, I'm just guessing on that. Maybe it's like how some people think cilantro tastes like soap. It would make sense if there was some kind of enzyme in tomatoes some people have developed a genetic aversion to since it's a nightshade.
>>22062207>I dunno if it's literal poisonIt's not poison, it's just something to deter an underripe fruit from being eaten. Plants usually don't want their fruits eaten when not ripe because it means the seeds haven't finished developing. If you've ever eaten a green banana then it can be astringent and unpleasant for the same reason.
>>22062552Yeah someone, maybe you, explained earlier in the thread that they use chemicals to make underripe tomatoes appear red to trick you into thinking they're ripe. It's just been my theory that the taste I dislike may or may not be absorbed pesticides, especially because I taste it more in cherry tomatoes and people have said they don't do that practice to them.
>>22061618Nah. It's always been like that. I taste something foul in it. It tastes like poison, and trust me, I know the taste of poison intimately.It's funny you post to say this, practically begging for (You)'s while claiming we are the ones who are 'thirsty'.industry shill or narcissist, you aren't swaying me.>>22062207Most produce. It may not be pesticide, but it tastes awful regardless of what it is.I don't taste it in home-grown veggies though, so that tells me it's something they are doing, or not doing.
>>22062903I definitely believe home grown produce is superior to mass produced grocery store crap, but I haven't noticed the particular poison taste in anything other than tomatoes and bananas myself.
>>22062903>I know the taste of poison intimately.why
>>22062903>It tastes like poison, and trust me, I know the taste of poison intimately.you're not supposed to eat the peel
>>22062903here's your (faggot), You