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Name a more nu-male drink accessory than whiskey stones
Protip: you can't
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>>22073282
being able to name any drink accessories at all means you are gay.
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>>22073282
i don't know, op.
i think drinking whiskey at all is nu-male.
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>>22073314
Back in my day we called them hipster faggots
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>>22073314
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>>22073282
They don't work it's a scam. We had these in the 90s too, they were called plastic cubes full of water, they also didn't work

>>22073337
Whiskey is the real man drink. Vodka for girls, everything else isn't white (heavy metal biker cowboy etc)
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>>22073346
You mean to tell me that, in the 90s, ice did not cool beverages?
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>>22073282
These were big for a brief period in the late '00s and they disappeared along with people saying "nu-male"
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>>22073282
I am out of touch unc. What is numale nowadays? Initially I thought beards, burgers, and brews (IPAs).
Thoughts?
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>>22073517
We're at a point where the term has become ingrained and pointing to a behavior as being like X is synonymous with saying it's uncool or stupid, like calling things gay or saying only trannies do X or Y or saying something is normalfag behavior or saying something is "cucked" in some way. There are legitimate uses for these terms but they just mean "bad" when people use them on here usually.
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>>22073401
you zoomers and/or ipad kids wouldn't know the struggle
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>>22073282
explain, without using buzzwords, why you don't like whiskey stones
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>>22073282
Unironically still trying to make “nu-male” a thing in 2016+10 is the most nu-male part of this thread
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I guess you fags have yet to discover the grasshopper or brandy alexander
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>>22073531
Cognition is very nu-male. Real men are brainlet wordcels.
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>>22073536
>Drinking whiskey is about the oldest male thing I can even think of.
guess men back then were also pathetic
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>>22073536
Which is why numales have adopted it as an affectation. I don't agree with that other anon that whiskey drinking itself indicates someone is a numale but if someone is a numale, there's a good chance they're a performative whiskey drinker.
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>>22073314
It really isn't

>tastes awful unless taken straight, which damages your mouth and throat
>incredibly harsh on your stomach
>gives you nightmares if you binge on it for too long and try to come off it

The nu male stuff comes from ron swamson but it is a pretty damaging thing to drink. Probably one of the worst.
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>>22073282
i dont like whiskey, im more of a rum guy
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>>22073282
>let me lose the benefit of latent heat
They don't love heckin' science?
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>>22073808
whiskey stones would be pretty based if they were watertight copper cubes filled with a phase-change material with a low melting temperature (saltwater, maybe). unfortunately the jews will not let us have this.
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>>22073837
>whiskey stones would be pretty based if they were watertight copper cubes filled with a phase-change material with a low melting temperature (saltwater, maybe). unfortunately the jews will not let us have this.
Sorry anon i hate to pop your bubble but i would like to point to a few things, being the resident physics/engineering autist
1. Liquid water has one of the best specific heat ratios present on gods green Earth. Nothing even comes close. The materials that do are shit like liquid ammonia (4700J/kg compared to waters 4182J/kg) which can't be used.
2. Another thing that matters a lot for materials in applications like this is their conductivity. There's no point in having a material with very high specific heat, but terrible conductivity. You don't want to sit twiddling your thumb while your water chilling cube with 9 billion joules/g tries to cool your whiskey, it'll just take too long. Again, water is the best material for this, at least on earth. It has decent conducivity, and also decent specific heat, which is why it is preferred for data centre cooling purposes
3. Finally, the true nitpick. I know your comment said "copper" but you actually meant something like "something with decent conductivity". Copper itself is terrible for food usage. A much better option would be 304 or 316 stainless steel. It's thermal conductivity slightly lower but it's food safe and quite hard
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>>22073879
>Copper itself is terrible for food usage
wat, have you never looked at high end cooking appliances?
copper pans, pots, mugs are all widely used, also it just looks cool
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>>22073888
No Ive seen those, i just don't feel comfortable letting any non food grade material be in contact with anything i eat. It's autism and i accept it, but i cannot let it go either.
I work for the winemaking and alcohol making industry. I design low power IIoT (industrial IoT) devices for winemakers. In my field, it's a sin to have anything that's not being food grade stainless steel, titanium, or food grade sillicone be in contact with anything that's going to be consumed by someone
Copper, aluminum, they're fine for cooking in, but they're just very reactive chemically. I see that as a terrifying thing, and i don't believe they should be in contact with anything we eat.
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>>22073896
Post it with the dildo anon, what are you doing?
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>>22073879
which is why i mentioned saltwater. its specific heat capacity and its thermal conductivity (0.932 times water's, 0.6 W/mK respectively) are pretty close to pure water's under 'normal' pressure conditons, from the sources I can find. i could be wrong though, this isn't my specialty
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>>22073899
>Copper, aluminum, they're fine for cooking in, but they're just very reactive chemically
how is copper reactive in the environment were using it in?

>letting any non food grade material be in contact with anything i eat
then say goodbye to a lot of middle to higher end european cheeses (wooden shelves), stuff from confectionaries and probably also a lot of higher end chocolate (copper appliances)
i get that its your personal preference, but its weird
everything that even involves some artisanal step is off the table
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>>22073912
Well copper is more reactive when hot, so it's not too bad to use it to just store stuff. It's much better than cooking with it. Copper continuously oxidises and leave behind and sheds that blue copper oxide layer, even if it's not visible to our eyes. That's why it's just plain better to avoid it.
I'm from an aSEAn country and we don't really use copper pots and pans anymore. We used to use bronze and brass but they're uncommon these days, only poor people use them.
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>>22073536
>Drinking whiskey is about the oldest male thing I can even think of
that's what makes it homosexual, anon.
the reality is that if you follow any trend you're a fucking faggot.
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>>22073608
>without using buzzwords
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>>22073282
I prefer kidney stones

I actually do think this is a genuinely smart thing because washing some stone dice is better than plastic.
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>>22073282
>whisky stones
lol nogunz, get some whisky bullets like a real Texan.
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>>22074012
and what about you who's following the trend of being a nasty miserable incel who spend 12 hours/day on this site?
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>>22074232
>whiskey bullets
Things like that are basically Funko Pops for Republicans
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>>22074253
Guns are basically Funko Pops for Americans.
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>>22073282
actual stones are shit but the metal ones with liquid inside that freeze are objectively superior to ice
>cool drink through energy absorption via solid/liquid phase change rather than just being a cold rock
>don't water down your drink
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>>22074232
If you deny that this at least looks cool when it's in the drink, you're lying.
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>>22073517
Overalls when you don't work in a construction yard or a farm. A walk with a lean back tilt and a protruding belly. A hat with some sort of capeshit or other pop culture reference.
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>>22074274
>coping this hard
>in public
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>>22074357
Nah, looks homo as fuck. >>22074253 is spot on about those kinds of things
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>>22073282
i never understood why some people act like diluting your whiskey with water is some kind of atrocious crime
unless your whiskey's sold at cask strength, it's already been diluted with a significant amount of water. diluting it a little more water really won't matter much. it'll still taste good.
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>>22074472
it's not the act of diluting it, it's the lack of control over the dilution
with proper "stones" that cool by solid/liquid phase transition you can keep your drink cold and dilute with spring water to whatever degree you want without having to worry about over diluting from extra ice
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>>22074476
reasonable enough
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>>22074476
a couple ice cubes aren't going to magically mask the taste. i really don't get this overblown autism over drink dilution. in fact a few ice cubes allow it to get to the point where you're not reflexively wretching from the alcohol
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>>22074403
It's funny, I work in a trade and most of my coworkers grew up on farms and ranches, lots wear rodeo buckles they actually won themselves, etc., and yet they all do shit that 4chan would call soi or numale these days like wearing flannel and carhartt, having beards, drinking whiskey and craft beer, etc.
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>>22074413
Your excessive self-consciousness is blocking your ability to detect objective aesthetic qualities. The important difference between this sort of thing and funko pops is that funko pops are hideous in appearance, but because memes have told you that it's gay to like anything ever you have ceased to perceive that difference.
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>>22073282
I bought a couple of these. They do very little. They just don't hold enough heat to make a difference.
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>>22074496
I think you missed the point, there's nothing wrong with those things in the appropriate setting. Rough men belong in flannel and beards. Nothing numale at that.
It's the posing by cityfags who weight 150lbs soaking wet and cry for womens rights that ruin it for everyone else.
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>>22074500
>hold enough heat
thats not how it works
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>>22074498
Damn the Funko Pop comparison really rattled you huh? How big is your whiskey bullet collection?
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>>22074523
It absolutely is. The amount of heat they can absorb from the whiskey is nowhere near the amount of heat an equivalent amount of ice cubes can.
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>>22074557
read nigga >>22074351
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>>22074558
Retard, it's just thermodynamic equilibrium. You put any two things together, the heat is going to attempt to equalize by moving from the hotter thing into the cooler thing. It can only move as much into the cooler thing as the physical properties of the cooler thing allow.

In the case of the stones, the stones get warm but stay solid. In the case of ice cubes, they get warm and turn to liquid. But it's the same thing.

And the stones just don't carry much heat. Believe me, I've tried them.
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>>22073314
this
only literal faggots drink whiskey
the whiskey collection is exactly identical to funko pops, except even less self-aware since it's alcoholism coverup
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>>22074564
>it's just thermodynamic equilibrium
it's not tho
phase change from solid to liquid requires a shitton more energy than just raising the temperature of a solid or liquid
like orders of magnitude different
the specific heat capacity of ice is 2 J/g
the latent heat of fusion of ice is 334 J/g
that's why solid whiskey stones are shit and the ones with a liquid inside that you freeze before using are good
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>>22074573
That's just splitting hairs. It's the same thing: ice can absorb a shit ton more heat than stone before the system equalizes. It's the same deal: move heat from A to B. How much heat can B absorb, and what is it's starting temperature? That'll dictate the final temperature of the system.
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>>22073343
didn't he use vodka?
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>>22074576
it's not splitting hairs because they operate differently
and the final temperature is always the same considering you're in a "room temperature" room, the difference is how long until your drink reaches room temperature
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>>22073282
>whiskey stones
my grandfather used to get those
said pissing them out hurt like a bitch
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>>22074526
I only have 6, do you think I'm some kind of monster
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>>22073721
That's pretty based anon. What's your poison? Pic related is one of mine.
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>>22074498
>self-consciousness
>objective aesthetic qualities
You just betrayed yourself.

Guns are supposed to be tools meant for a practical purpose, but like Funko Pops they're just aesthetic collectables for 2A boomers and their kin. You aint watering the tree of liberty, not now, and not in Two More Weeks™. They're as good as Funko Pops.
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>whiskey stones
I've never heard of these until this thread
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>>22074523
That's exactly how it works. Heat is a measure of energy (Jules). Energy is what's conserved when you chill your drink, and different materials have different heat capacity.

Liquid water has 5x the heat capacity of granite, solid water 3x, the latent heat of formation to phase change water to ice alone is like 20x the energy to required to heat a "whisky stone" from freezer temp to room temp.

Ice mogs whisky stones.
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Just chill the glass in the freezer
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>>22074944
ruins the taste
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>>22074232
this crosses over the threshold to based
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>>22074882
odd. people don't talk about them too much these days but I remember them being all the rage like 10-15 years ago.
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>>22074946
You sound mentally disabled, ngl
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>>22073282
These things only exist to be given as gifts to whiskey enthusiasts from people who don't know any better. I would be surprised if there are people who actually enjoy using them
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>>22073282
just put ice in it.

same with beer and wine.
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>>22075237
No, I'd rather use rocks that don't particularly cool my drink but do chip my glass and teeth
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>>22075245
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>>22075250
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>>22074012
I was drinking it before it was a trend.
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>>22074882
whiskey on the rocks was originally made with literal rocks
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>>22075250
>>22075252
I'm tired of pretending this isn't okay. Everyone always says that it dilutes the beer but if you drink it as fast as a normal beer it tastes exactly the same only the last couple sips aren't horrible room temp swill. Nobody bitches about ice 'ruining the flavor' of every other cold drink in existence but for some reason I need to suffer when I drink beer on a hot day.
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>>22075250
>>22075252
you used to get pilloried in the old days for doing bullshit like this
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>>22074565
Do you people like anything?
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>>22075237
If you put ice cubes in beer or wine in front of me I swear I'll kiss you right on the mouth you fucking faggot
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>>22074388
What was this from? I remember seeing these as a kid but can’t remember where. Was it a Boy Scout thing?
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>>22073879
>>22073899
You are based, don't leave us, we need you. Still, I don't think you really popped the first guy's bubble, you just made some adjustments to the design. A (food safe, high conductivity) metal cube with water inside would be a superior alternative to the whiskey stone. What I want to know is about his "saltwater" claim. Are the thermal properties of water best in pure, deionized/distilled water, typical trace-mineral "tap water", or in a saturated brine solution?
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>>22074876
>How DARE anyone like owning things!
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>>22075775
Highlights
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>>22075784
to be clear i was arguing for saltwater because it freezes at a temperature well below 0 celsius while having similar (but slightly worse) properties to regular water, at least, according to a quick google search. pure water has better thermal properties but I reckon that having extra cold (around -20C) ice would chill the drink more effectively and would make up for the slightly inferior thermal properties.
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>>22075805
You need a freezer that goes to -20 to utilize that though, which typical home freezers do not
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>>22075819
well you could have one that goes to -15C no problem to suit most people's needs. just add less salt.
mine is set to -5 F (about -20.5 C), i was just basing it off of that
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>>22074503
is it nu-male when tradies get daily diabetus in a cup on the way to work?
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>>22074503
I don't know, I see people taking it way further than that pretty regularly. Certainly I see endless posts about how Carhartt is nothing but a shitty fashion brand now and no real workers wear it anymore, and then IRL everybody I know who's a skilled trade is pretty much head to toe with it. I see similar stuff about alcohol and so on too, you look at shit that real /pol/ types post and their idea of a real man these days seems to be some kind of complete ascetic.
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>>22073282
drinking vessels made from glass. Real men quaff from the skulls of their enemies.
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>>22075791
Right in the bullseye I see
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>>22074578
It's rum and coke.
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>>22074882
I remember seeing them on Shark Tank decades ago. I guess they were mildly successful.
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>>22073282
does it work well with COLA?!
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>>22075250
>>22075319
>>22075462
Beerfags are just ultra-turbo normies who bitch at anyone who does anything slightly interesting with their drink. They're extremely performative about drinking while acting like they're just super practical.
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Lotta numales coping, seething, and malding ITT
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>>22073282
I don't really see the point. It's "on the rocks" while being afraid of the change in flavor/dilution from the water, but that's kind of the point. If you just make the whisky cold with shitty stones, it's going to lose nuance vs room temp and sipped neat. Rather than "nu-male" or whatever the fuck, it just seems pointless and lame.
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>>22076770
You're the biggest one of them all
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>>22076324
No they barely do shit at all
Fucking useless numale bs
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>>22076324
yes its great, dont use high end whisky tho
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>>22073282
its stupid but i never seen a nu-male or trannydad use whisky stone.



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