What are some other foods that are thought of as healthy but actually aren't?
they’re literally just potato chips
>>22091188meattallow (industrial lubricant)
>>22091188everything. eating anything causes some kind of damage to the body over time. it doesn't matter what it is. eating is a violent damaging process. we must learn to subsist on air and light.
Their promise of organic food is pretty convincing. But then I finally took a closer look at the label and did some research, and oh boy… things are not always as they seem guys.
>>22091188how is that not healthy reatrd
>>22091200never heard of white meat being bad
>>22091200>meat>tallow (industrial lubricant)
>>22091188Most fruits. They're just sugar water.
>>22091224there’s more to nutrition than macros
>>22091224the fiber is good tbf
>>22091188>is afraid of fiber
>>22091225Sure, but by volume they're very high calorie. Muh vitamins aren't going to undo getting fat.
>>22091224Nobody gets sick from eating fruit. It feels like people are going backwards and blaming fruit because modern ultraprocessed junk food often has added sugar and then assuming anything with sugar must be bad too. You can find studies supporting all kind of diet claims but you can't really find anything saying that eating less fruit improves health, it's always the opposite that fruit improves health. >>22091231>Sure, but by volume they're very high calorieThey're mostly water so not really, and they have no fat. It's also hard to overconsume fruit unlike chips or cookies because of the water and fiber and time it takes to chew fresh whole fruit. Most people aren't going to want to eat a whole bag of apples the same way they could eat a whole bag of chips.
>>22091231they are not
>>22091231You are a retard.
>>22091188Jamba Juice
Nothing wrong with oats as long as you don't dump a bucket of sugar or a shit ton of honey into them. With high fiber you have to go low dose.
>>22091204Sunning ones anus for half an hour a day provides all the necessary nutrients required to live a happy and healthy life.
It's surprisingly high in calories.Just by drizzling a little olive oil on this, you can maintain an American physique.
Most fruits, some vegetables, oats, bread, pasta, rice. All poison. Can you eat it? Yeah. Should you eat it if you value your life and good health? No. Stick with an all meat, seafood and dairy diet.
>>22091716your ass is poison
>>22091188wanted an easy quick breakfast so for a week i did egg, bacon, onion, baked oats and it gave me severe depression. tasted great but it was like a heavy weight fell down over me emotionally, the only thing that changed in my life was adding oats>>22091200>(industrial lubricant)left cant meme
>>22091222https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/17/8/1370now you have
post your diet OPfaggot
>>22091716Do you work or have you ever worked in nutritional research?
>>22091219he won't answer and you know it.
>>22091764>believing the vitamin/nutrition myth>in 2026
Rice and bread are basically candy glycemic index wise. No one wants to think of these as unhealthy because its a big part of most peoples diets and they dont want to admit they are eating what amounts to spoonfuls of sugar at most meals.Fruits, berries and nuts are also bad for you, when eaten in the normal serving size most people do, and should only be used in quantities you would expect from garnishes.It goes with out saying but anything that comes in a box or wrapper is 99% of the time pure goyslop poison.
>>22091188Ketards need to fuck offsick of reading your horseshit here, it's all worthless nonsense just stop postinggo for a walk, you are fat and your meme diet isn't working
>>22091241>CICO in 2026Sugar spikes insulin higher than anything, insulin tells your body to store fat. Keep insulin low by eating healthy whole foods low in carbs (doesnt have to be keto) and its nearly impossible to get fat.Dr fung got a nobel prize for discovering this last decade, its supressed to hell and back for obvious reasons. The other problem is 3 meals a day and snacking, causing constant insulin spikes whose sum is greater than the whole. Stick to omad or 2 meals in a 6 hour window. You will stop being constantly hungry if you stop eating goyslop full of sugar and yes that includes fruits.
>>22091795I am cutting right now and it's much easier this year and the weight peels off without a problem because I am eating pure sugar daily
>>22091788>im addicted to processed foods and sugar and get angry whem told im acting irrationaly due to my addiction.>I seek out studies amd experts that fall into my confirmation bias to reinforce habitKetones are the bodies real fuel, not fucking sugar. If you could give up your shitty sugar addiction and feel what the brain runs lile on ketones you'd see the light, but you are weak and chained to goyslop and cannot handle the withdrawals from sugar long enough to make it there.Ancestors did not uave daily constant access to starches and berries/fruit they ran on ketones, idgaf about the last 2-3k years of grain eaters when we existed for so much longer its barely a blip.
>>22091785white rice and white bread yes. a necessary distinction. this doesn't apply to whole grain rice or whole grain bread. also pasta is much lower GI than rice or bread despite being thought of as a processed, fiberless carb. especially when cooked al dente.
>>22091804tell me youre diagnosed schizo without telling me
>>22091746hugging trees is natsoc you fat gay conservatard
>>22091825>whole grain ricethat shit is worse for you than white
>>22091204ahhh a fellow breatharian!
>>22091241>1 raspberry is 1 kcalyeah i don't believe that. at least 5
>>22091874Hahaha funny joke about the rice comrad.
>>22091804humans have been eating grains for 100k years minimum
>>22091874I didn't imply that it was good for you I implied that it has a lower glycemic index than white rice
>>22091891>t.
>>22091891Not refined grains, and not in even a small fraction of what was and is consumed in agrarian society. You need grains in your diet as much as you need nicotine.
>>22091788Stay mad, fatso.
>>22091795Fuck off back to /fit/ shizo spammer
>>22091795Based and correct.
>>22091238It's the same way that people who drink whole milk are healthier than those who drink skim.
>>22091960source?
>>22091795 It's nearly impossible to get fat on just carbs too. Cutting out an entire macronutrient is going to reduce how much you can eat. Nobody is getting fat from fruit. It's ultraprocessed junk food that is usually a combination of refined carbs and refined oil.>withdrawals from sugar Sugar is not a drug you experience withdrawals from.>>22091804 >see the lightYour diet is not a religion.
>>22092000Wrong on all accounts.Carbs make you fatStop eating sugar see what happens, you will go into withdrawl like a junkie and think about it constantly for up to a week before your body adapts and your mind healsKeto is not a diet, its how we lived the majority of our lives before agriculture
>>22092000Carbs caused the obesity epidemic.
>>22092010You will not get fat eating only carbs. People on high carb low fat diets lose weight too. People on fruit only diets are always thin. If you stopped eating fat you'd keep thinking about it and craving it too.> Keto is not a diet, its how we lived the majority of our lives before agricultureWell there are people today who exist without agriculture and they regularly consume starch or sugar. There are hunter-gatherers regularly eating honey or roots or fruits, even gathering starch from trees.It doesn't really matter anyway. There have been genetic changes since agriculture took place resulting in even higher abilities to digest carbs. You're not going to tell me the increase in lactase persistence or amylase production doesn't mean we're supposed to be consuming carbs. You know what we didn't eat until even more recently? High amounts of ultraprocessed food that is high in calories from both refined carbs and refined fats while being low in nutrients. Consuming both fat and carbs but little ultraprocessed food always results in weight loss and improved health. You'll struggle to get fat from fruit and nuts despite it being fat and carbs, but start eating a lot of cookies that are made of refined fat and carbs and weight gain happens quickly.
>>22092019Ultraprocessed food did. Studies show a diet higher in ultraprocessed food results in hundreds of extra calories being consumed every day compared to a standard diet that is simply low in ultraprocessed food but still has both fat and carbs.
>>22091188Bread but mainly because of the seed oils and gluten used in making them in most of the contemporary west specifically.
>>22092043"ultraprocessed food" is a euphemism for refined powdered carbs.
>>22092037Low-fat diets are the worst possible diets.
>>22092160
>>22092163Hi moxyte.
>>22092157And refined oil. It's easier to get too many calories with peanut oil compared to eating whole peanuts. >>22092160Yeah I'm not saying anything about long-term overall health. Just that high carb low fat diets still result in weight loss, even if it includes refined carbs. But the combination of refined carbs and refined fat seems especially bad. And overall, the healthiest diets seem to be the ones that restrict only ultraprocessed foods rather than fat or carbs in general.
>>22091267Honey is good for you.
>>22091759>le single, self-reported study of 4,000 people in Italy>does not account for intake of processed white meat>study itself concludes that more studies would be neededso this is the power of veganism...
The only point ketofags have against cico is that most fats, proteins, and low gi carbs are considerably easier to digest. Where as someone with an allium intolerance is going to be farting up a storm after eating 100 calories of onions and garlic.
>>22092275>someone with an allium intoleranceI've met people with that. Poor bastards.The rest of us can have their share.
>>22091746Tallow was used as lubricant in the mid 20th century.
>>22091188Oatmeal is amazing.Flesh eaters are on their way out, cope and seethe baby killers.
>>22092319oatmeal is an antinutrient
I think most foods are bad for youthats why the harvard recommended food intakes always have a mix of foods that ensure no single thing is eaten in excess without more neutral material and fibersSure you can eat grains, but whole grains that are a small part of the overall meatSure you can eat meat, but like max 100g a daySure you can eat fruit, but only limited amounts etc.
>>22092340They can be, but if you cook them then that is negated. And nevermind the fact that the benefits for the average obese American far outweigh the disadvantages... Yeah, you're just an idiot. Oatmeal is good, and good for you. Go back to /fit/ and jack it to the cbt thread.
>>22092340elaborate
>>22091795/threadstarted doing this last October after quitting daily goyslop snacking and instantly shed 20 lbs. eat twice daily and cram all of my calories into 6 hours. never hungry but enjoy and eat like a fat ass, can see my superficial epigastric veins. I've never been and felt healthier. now I keep all sugar below 36g daily, not just added, i don't even crave it anymore.I always knew sugar was bad but holy shit it's actual metabolic poison, never again.
>>22092375Grains are fattening cattle feed.
>fat>doing ketomany cases
>>22093254>eat junk food >eat all the time >blame carbs altogether not seeing the logic here
>>22091871nutsocks are leftist. it's in the name leftoid >>22091188Everything is healthy if consoomed in reasonable quantities as part of a balanced diet. It only becomes unhealthy when you indulge too often and/or eat too much.
>>22093256Sure they are. They've also been human feed for about 100k years as well. Nematodes eat meat. Are you a nematode?
>>22091188So how is oatmeal bad
>>22091200
>>22093307It's fattening.
>>22093360It’s not. Not unless you add in a bunch of crap. That’s like calling iced tea fattening when it’s really the sugar that’s the problem.
>>22093301cattle are fed grain to fatten them up before slaughter. grass fed grain finished is standard for american beef
>>22093379Right. Would not argue with that. My family has raised cattle for over 100 years now, that is indeed how it's done. You're still a dumbass if you think humans can't eat grain.
>>22093284it's any combination of high carb, quality of carb, and/or over consumption. cutting and drastically reducing both helps. I'm not a ketotard but I am pro (intermittent) fasting. complex carbs are necessary for steady blood sugar and ATP among other things, and under some circumstances simple carbs paired with sodium and electrolytes for quick hydration recovery. I'm being hyperbolic calling sugar poison, but it really is metabolically disastrous. I restrict carbs and avoid sugar in general now.carbs aren't inherently 'bad', but the timing, quality, and quantity makes all the difference. like ingesting caffeine when you're tired, sure it may help stave off the crash but it is inevitable unless you also take a short nap immediately after consuming it. both, to gain the effect of blocked adenosine receptors, and stop the body from producing adenosine that makes you tired to begin with.all food is just hormonal instructions, then energy: CICO matters, but the hormonal response and how your body treats those calories is vastly more important than intake imo. protein is always good, fat is great if you're fasted, carbohydrates better if you're aware of consumption/caloric intake. simple carbs empty calorie slop.
>>22093502too much protein is bad
>>22093383Humans can eat grain they just get fat from it.
>>22093525no they dont
>>22093502>fat is great if you're fastedi would say fat from whole foods is fine, but eating a lot of refined fat can cause similar issues as eating a lot of refined carbs. eating them both together is probably the biggest reason for weight and diet related health problems.
>>22093358don't post self pictures here
>>22093360Only people who sit on their fat ass on the couch all day say shit like this.You're fattening. You fat cunt
>>22091784Okay, maybe read back to yourself what shit you type.
>>22091785>Source: idk I just made it up because it sounds right
>>22092340Your mother is a whore.
>>22091231Fruit are possibly the most low calorie things you could think of
It's amazing the insane hoops Americans and fat people jump through, absolutely anything, other than just eating less. You just eat too much, that's the overwhelming reason you're fat, stop eating as much. It's also hilarious how fat people are always the most stubborn, authoritative, overbearing and sanctimonious speakers on the subject of diets, despite being patently ignorant, as they are fucking fat. They never fucking listen to anyone or take advice, perpetual teenagers.
>owww noo my blood sugar will spike if I eat the oats>drinks a soda>eats a candy bar>nooo that's different :(
>>22093743The fact that cigarettes are sold when it's fact that they cause cancer tells you all you need to know about the human race.
>>22091990Sure, I read it here: >>22091960
>>22092316Apple cider vinegar is used as a shampoo, it's still healthy to drink it
>fruit is bad because sugar>rice is bad because sugar>bread is bad because sugarOh so you don't ever eat a candy bar do you? Never have ice cream? Never drink a soda? Fucking kill yourself.
>>22093759not a ketard but comparing a treat you have on a occasion to a staple you base your diet on is wack
>>22093763So you missed the point entirely, good job.
>>22093763If you're eating candy bars occasionally then don't act like you're above eating fruit everyday. Do you even see how moronic you sound arguing this?
This whole website is a retard lobster trap I shouldn't be surprised.
>>22093765i do admit i don't find any reason behind your post>>22093768eating something shitty on a occasion doesn't make a difference in the big picture
>>22093770That's because you're a fucking retard.
>>22093770If you think eating oatmeal every day and fruit is bad for you but you eat chocolate bars you're a fucking retard
>>22093789it does seem that i am reasonable, and you are a fucking retard>>22093806consult >>22093763is this what it feels like to be sentient among 60 iq npcs. scary.
>>22091188Reminder that this could possibly be the obsessed keto propaganda spammer that has been plaguing /ck/ for literally years and years (they HATE OATMEAL and any plant foods, and if you like oats or beans they will call you a vegan)
>>22091219because you have to add tons of butter and sugar to make it edible
>>22093835Probably. Someone keeps posting in various threads lately about how starches are evil and make you fat. He usually doesn't respond to pointing out that Japanese people are normal weight despite the rice consumption.
>>22093827stop being a faggot who responds with animal images
>>22093835Is it even controversial that avoiding carbs is good for weight loss and inflammationthe health authorities, governments love grains since they're the cheapest product to grow per calorie, so those organizations will never say anything anti-carb, but that logic doesn't really make sense on an individual level
>>2209383599% sure he's the same one spouting that plants are looking to kill you>>22094055>Is it even controversial that avoiding carbs is good for weight loss and inflammationYes, as it should beRefined carbs like table sugar and white flour cause inflammationComplex carbs like vegetables, fruits and legumes reduce itWeight loss is about caloric deficit, not eliminating carbs. If you prefer to go about it with keto, you absolutely can, likewise high-carb low-fat diets work equally well for fat loss as is shown in clinical trials>the health authorities, governments love grains since they're the cheapest product to grow per calorie, so those organizations will never say anything anti-carb, but that logic doesn't really make sense on an individual level>Le Big Grain conspiracy>"Cheap to grow" somehow means it's bad instead of efficientYawn
None of the diets are sustainable, keto, calorie counting, doesn't matter. They work short term, but then, never having learned proper nutritional habits or figured out reasons for overeating in the first place, fatty falls back on old habits and gains it all back.
>>22094055>Is it even controversial that avoiding carbs is good for weight loss and inflammationWell it's just flat out stupid and moronic to have this stance.
>>22093568Yes they do.
>>22094055Traditional wisdom was that sugar and starches are fattening.Sugar merchants have spent a lot of money attacking traditional wisdom. Also vegans hate low-carb because it promotes eating meat cheese and eggs.So yes it is controversial in the same way that experimental mRNA injections are controversial.
>>22093525Are you comparing human and bovine digestion, and thinking they're similar? Come on anon, think this through, maybe even Google a little bit... don't just take your YouTube lord's word for everything all the time.
>>22094300Grains are also used to give ducks fatty liver disease.
>>22094243Traditionally, starch made up the bulk of the diet except for the wealthiest people yet not everyone was overweight.
>>22094308Yes, that is true. But the amount of grain, in proportion to their body weight, that ducks are forced to consume for that to happen is WAY more than a bowl of oatmeal for a human.
>>22094308That's a bit misleading since ducks naturally store fat in their liver since it helps give them energy during migratory flights. It'd be like saying grains give you a big belly because camels have humps.
>>22094308>Grains are bad!>"The thing we've been farming and cultivating for thousands of years are bad?">YES!!!!!!!!!!oh
>>22094313Because they knew starch was fattening so they cut back when they were getting fat. Since the calorie psyop people wrongly cut back on fat and end up mega-obese.>>22094322Grains are delicious they just make humans fat and cause metabolic disease.
>>22094326>Since the calorie psyop people wrongly cut back on fat and end up mega-obese.Nah, you're not getting obese on just carbs. It's refined carbs plus refined oil driving up obesity rates. Basically, too much processed food in general.
>>22094326>Grains are delicious they just make humans fat and cause metabolic disease.Where did you read this?
>>22094329People knew carbs were fattening before modern refining and processing techniques.
>>22094331If you look at modern world where people eat the typical foods they do and 70% end up fat and unhealthy you put the blame on the biggest food groups they're being fed, because math
>>22094332What should people be eating then?
>>22094333>I read a bunch of speculative, probably biased websites>And I just took it as factAh, very well, sorry to bother you.
>>22094333Thanks for telling me something I already know.
>>22094333Take a look in the mirror.
>>22094334Whatever they want to eat but when they start getting fat they should cut back on carbs.Staple foods should be meat, eggs, and aged cheeses.
>>22094332Yeah all the rice is why most Japanese people are obese. Pic related two average Japanese people fighting over spilled rice.
>>22094342People like you should not have internet access, you are unable to admit when you're wrong.It's okay to admit you are literally seething at the teeth.
>>22094342>and aged cheeses.Milk* unless you're lactose intolerant. Going to lol if you say milk is bad because carbs.
>>22094351okand aged milk
>>22094352yogurt?
>>22094338One of the most common health memes has been looking at places on the planet where people are fit, sexy and live long. Record what they tend to eat and sell that as a "healthy" diet. Its not controversial at all>japs live long, eat sushi n shit>some asian place eats fuckloads of beans, you should eat beans>inuits ate mostly meat and were healthy as fuck, you should eat meat. You dont want to see their mouths after they moved to a western diet trust me>mongol hordes ate meat and milk, thats why they conquered the world. You should do the same>meds are sexy, you should eat olive oil and fish In short all paths lead away from consuming grains.
>>22094356>japs>lead away from consuming grains.you'll be shocked when you find out "sushi" actually refers to rice and not fish
>>22094356We were also taught as kids that those health claims in magazines are simply lies written so fat and other similarly weak willed people can be robbed of their money as punishment for their lack of conviction and self respect.We were also taught as kids that a news website should be considered a biased source, as once again, it is ultimately a business with the sole purpose of making money.I don't know why you forgot these basic tenants of life, you seem to think that I am one of the morons who believe anything they read, but it's actually you. Don't test me on this shit.
>>22094345Japanese people are the largest consumers of mayonnaise in the world.
>>22094361>>22094356Also, you should google what a "narcissistic injury" is, basically you know I am right and refuse to admit it, even though you'd benefit from my advice. Because you are narcissistic.
>>22094351As long as it is whole fat milk it is good.
>>22094357The longest lived Japanese eat less carbs and more animal protein.
>>22094366My parents had a thing for low fat milk which isnt food. Its just water basically.As an adult I only ever buy 2-4% milk so using it has some sort of culinary point. But I also have fat free milk powder for when real milk runs out which works alright.
>>22094370what are you rambling about, low fat milk has winrar macros. high quality protein & low glycemic load carbs
I swear carbohydrate is like an actual magnet word for retards.
>>22094373Low fat milk causes obesity.
>>22094342+ VegetablesIt's really retarded to act like you don't need vegetables at all. Some people are probably fine with less fiber, but that's not normal>>22091795Proper fiber (which is a carb) prevents insulin spikes though, especially when eaten at a good ratio during the meal. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1663443/>>22093743Agreed, it's really annoying. We're incredibly susceptible to corporate propaganda>>22093835My fiance did keto to drop weight fast, and ended up incredibly irritable. He did get back to a healthy weight really quickly but is off it now and feels a million times better with an appropriate amount of fiber+carbs. Pasta still makes his blood sugar spike and get all pissy but there's plenty of other options out thereCertain diets like keto or AIP can help people get to a better place and really feel how food affects them but they're ultimately not sustainable. AIP isn't even designed to be sustainable but crazy people take it too far. Not sure about the true origins of Keto but it clearly helps obese people lose weight fast. I don't know anyone who keeps it up for years though, except online people who are clearly unhappy.
>>22094376Low fat milk causes swolesity.
>>22094380Sorry bro but choosing low-fat dairy is why you are fat.>In 11 of 16 studies, high-fat dairy intake was inversely associated with measures of adiposity.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22810464/
>>22094389check them guns it'd be over for you in but a single strike
>>22094369I don't think that means exactly what you think it does. It's been an issue for a long time in elderly people not getting enough protein, it affects elderly people more who naturally lose muscle mass which is correlated with poor outcomes. Most people aren't going to tell you to only eat carbs, but saying you need to avoid them completely just seems dramatic and contrarian. That's also from the 70s when Japan was still struggling to have a stable food supply, they only became self sufficient with rice around that time, so people still weren't getting enough food in general until somewhat more recently.
>>22094389Is that from the milk itself or because overweight people might choose skim milk thinking it will make them lose weight? Like saying diet soda makes you fat because someone ate two pizzas and a cake but had a diet soda to drink.Not saying you should drink low fat milk either, it sucks. Even whole milk in the USA doesn't have as much fat as milk naturally does, it only has 3.25% fat but milk actually has 3.4% or more before processing.
>>22094398I didn't say you need to avoid carbs completely. Some fattening food is okay to eat.>>22094400It's an associative study but we know that the best way to lose weight is cut carbs, and the obesity epidemic was caused by low-fat diet advice, so probably a little of both.
>>22094405>we know that the best way to lose weight is cut carbsNo, cutting carbs will result in weight loss and dietary fat is required for optimal health, but the best way to lose weight is to cut processed food. Cutting fat still results in weight loss too.>and the obesity epidemic was caused by low-fat diet adviceExcept people never stopped eating a lot of fat. Some products might've been created that were low fat but they never made up the bulk of the diet. It's like blaming the food pyramid for obesity when it tells you to limit refined oil and sugar, yet nobody was actually doing that. People kept slamming cookies and chips and soda.I suppose you could say the real problem with low fat advice is that it lead people who wanted to lose weight to try very low fat diets which resulted in feeling unsatisfied and failure to stick to any kind of diet plan, but the issue was still too much processed food being consumed.
>>22094411"Processed food" is nonsense. Ground beef is processed but it is perfectly healthy.Obesity is caused by carbs. Refining and powdering carbs makes them worse.
>>22094405>>22094411A doctor named Kempner put his patients on a very high carb, very low fat diet that included a lot of rice and sugar. Most of his patients seemed to still lose weight and get healthier. Of course this wouldn't really be healthy long-term, but it just shows that carbs aren't inherently fattening.
>>22094414He physically beat his patients to get the results he wanted.
>>22094413When people say processed food, it's shorthand for ultraprocessed food that is usually high in refined starch, sugar, and oil and then usually various flavorings and seasonings to make it ultra palatable. Saying that all food is processed is just being pedantic.
>>22094417When people say "processed food" it is a weasely way of avoiding saying "refined powdered carbohydrate".
>>22094364I doubt that, the average height is only like 5'7
>>22094416Lol I didn't know that. If you want a less violent example then there are plenty of hunter-gatherers eating a lot of honey regularly and they're all lean and healthy. >>22094419Refined oil is included in that too, and results in more calories being consumed than you'd be getting from whole foods. You're going to struggle getting too many calories purely from fat free crackers compared to potato chips. You can pretty much eat all the fruit and nuts you want despite them having sugar and fat because they're much more satiating compared to cookies that are refined fat/starch/sugar.
>>22091238>It's also hard to overconsume fruitI ate an entire bag of oranges in a day
Isn't any diet healthy and unhealthy if that's all you eat? You can eat McD every day and still lose weight because it just depends on how much of it is you eat. There's upsides to that diet, and downsides just the same.Just don't gorge yourself on any diet and you'll be fine.
>>22094428Probably still less calories than an 8 oz bag of potato chips.
>>22092010>Keto is not a diet, its how we lived the majority of our lives before agricultureYou're right, it's not a diet it's a fucking cult.
>>22091238>Nobody gets sick from eating fruit.Unless you're allergic to something specific, but those allergies present themselves in extremes like IBS and gastroparesis (usually involves feeding tube).
>>22093379>.50 calibers of fat
>>22094597Yeah I guess I shouldn't say nobody gets sick from it since trouble digesting sugar happens with some people. But nobody gets sick from it the way they do eating a lot of junk food.
>>22094322>>"The thing we've been farming and cultivating for thousands of years are bad?"Didn't know they were researching nutrition a thousand years ago
>>22091204It's true. Eating, and also breathing cause oxidative stress leading to free radicals that damage your dna. The way to improve longevity is to eat only the most metabolically necessary nutrients that cause the least amount of oxidative stress.It may not be a happy life, but definitely a long one.
>>22094743>eat only the most metabolically necessary nutrients that cause the least amount of oxidative stressSuch as?
>>22094746anything that isnt grains or foods that contain carbs that your body cant digest but bacteria can
I'm pretty most lentils/beans are just bad for you. There's no way something that makes you fart for several hours is healthy.
everyone who claims to have the answer is fucking retarded just stop taking health advice period
>>22095178lentils and beans obviously have toxins in them you need to remove firstgas mostly relates to people with fodmap type sensitivies, if you dont mind gas its probably not deadly or anything
>>22091764>UM ACHTUALLY>>22091716It's the current year and people still have no idea that the reason why everyone is running around with deficiencies is because the two biggest foods in the food pyramid are sugar and phytic acid.
>>22095178>>22095192apparently you can get really sick if you eat undercooked beans. Because the average american has no idea how to cook food, I wouldn't be surprised if people are undercooking them and getting sick wondering why anyone would ever want to eat beans.t. never had a problem with beans
>>22095203>deficiencies is because the two biggest foods in the food pyramid are sugar and phytic acid.That might be part of it. Potatoes are actually a better choice than grains because they have less phytic acid and other things like vitamin C which helps absorb iron. Some studies show the iron in potatoes being almost as bioavailable in animal products. But I think another issue would just be that most people only want to eat meat now which is comparatively low in nutrients compared to things like organs and blood. A small serving of liver or something with blood will give you more copper or iron than you'd get from eating pounds of meat.
Im starting to think groceries in places like eu could conceivably just remove the worst national health offenders from the shelves. Limit the visibility of the cheap grains and sugars that take up endless amount of space. Maybe simply remove refined carbs altogether unless they meet some fiber % since the population eats whats conveinent, cheap and visible.
>>22095218It always puzzled me that historically people with access to metalworking were more likely to boil meat, than grill it. Despite the practice being an obvious method to retain as much of the animal product as possible for practical reasons, it seems that an unintended effect was that they received much better nutrition via the increased amount of particular amino acids, such as glycine and tauring, which are not retained when cooking over a fire, even though it is yummy.
>>22092316Wait until you hear what sorts of things water has been used for.
Anons who have weird fixations about food are just desperate to have one (1) aspect of their life they can actually control. Their lives are a trainwreck but they tell themselves everything is fine because they avoided carbs and sneed oils that day. Normal people just eat normal food using common sense and move on with their lives.
>>22093839When you don't even need flags to spot the american postersI eat steel cut with a dash of cinnamon, vanilla, and milk. Tastes fine.
>>22094389>associatedtrash
>>22094414De novo lipogenesis from carbohydrates is ~75% efficient, whereas storage of dietary fat is 98% efficient. Hypothetically if you ate 4000 calories of pure carbohydrate you would gain the same amount of weight as 3000 calories of mixed macronutrients.
>>22094395twink arm. this is the food and cooking board, don’t post gay porn
>>22094417It's better if people can agree in some way on the terms first. Like the Nova classifications. And be the slightest bit specific. Like at least try instead of using the scary buzzword as a catchall. It's like people being scared of E numbers on principle because muh chemicals. And then they point at a food with fucking curcumin (E100) in it.
>>22091188milk and cheese?heavily shilled in USA, so all the other cuntries started shilling them too. it's crazy.i like SOME cheese though. Kerry Gold's matured cheddar is sugoi.
>>22091223i love soya milk with sugar mostly cause it's cheap. even with food price inflation over the years.tallow is too fancy for me.
>>22091788i would keto if i can afford it. and i am a skeletor. i walk whereever i can when i'm NOT going to work.
>>22096775>heavily shilled in USA, so all the other cuntries started shilling them too.Nah, this is just some weird modern anti-dairy cope to explain why people consume it. There was marketing for dairy but acting like modern marketing is the only reason people consume it is silly. Of course not everyone did, but plenty of various peoples in different places have been consuming lots of dairy for thousands of years.Unless you're lactose intolerant then I do think eating a lot of cheese is probably not as good as just drinking milk though, since a lot of nutrition gets lost during the cheesemaking process.
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>>22096778it unfortunately gets expensive with keto if you want any sorta interesting meals and varietycarbs are simply the cheapest thing to eat
You may get away with an extremely dry one being healthy (but those are shit) but generally by weight you're eating ~50% mayo and yoghurt.
>>22091188Toxic sludge with no NOOTRIENTS
>>22091188Whats the problem with porridge? Its just cooked milk, oats and cinnamon, those 3 are very healthy.
>>22091785>muh glycemic indexFaggot speak, no need to read any further
>>22091785>Fruits, berriesi didn't realize the term fruit excluded berries
