Look I'm sorry but natty peanut butter just fucking sucks. I'll eat "healthy" a hundred other ways but I'm not going to stress myself to death worrying about a tiny bit of palm oil and salt in a jar of creamed legumes. And I'm not going to spend my entire day off stirring the oil back into that crap as a humiliation ritual every time I want a sandwich.
>>22099007I like it. The stuff with palm oil is okay but I wouldn't eat the kind that has hydrogenated oil.
>>22099008why? hydrogenated oil is safe. partially hydrogenated oil is the one that is unsafe and it's banned
Peanuts are a legume?
>>22099032Yes, they're not technically a nut.
>>22099007I agree. I can't abide that disgusting bland shit. It's such a waste of time and peanuts.
>>22099007I use PB to actually fucking cook, not to eat it like a dog off a zoophile's spoon.Idgaf about health for that but simply want ingredients that haven't been turned to candy for children and fat people
>>22099056you don't ever enjoy a creamy savoury peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
>>22099015>hydrogenated oil is safe.I doubt it. Maybe not as bad as partially hydrogenated but I don't think that means it's 100% okay. It's still highly processed.
>>22099066If it's for sale it's safe. You can't really think there are dangerous oils in peanut butter. Some foods are more fattening and unhealthy than others. Just don't eat a lot. Nothing is dangerous like poison or radiation, ya psycho.
>>22099063Why do your simple comic characters there have harelips? That's disgusting and cruel.
>>22099087>If it's for sale it's safeare you jokin
Or are they noses where the nostril part is just drawn equal size to the rest of the nose? No, that doesn't work either. That really looks stupid.
>>22099089>they sell poisonous food on supermarket shelves that you can serve to your babyAre you insane? Do you think it's like lead or something? Or do you consider sugar a cancer causing carcinogen too? You fucking nutjobs have ruined the internet with your conspiracy delusions.
>>22099091Partially hydrogenated oil was sold for decades and said to be safe then "oops it actually killed a lot of people and has to be illegal now"
>>22099096And you believe that someday the scary 'seed oils' will also be deemed toxic and life threatening and ripped from the shelves?
>>22099109Amazing how the phenomenon of 20thC heart disease is there as history for all to see, and that we have lived for hundreds of thousands of years with animal fats before that, and there are gruesome videos on how to conjure vegetable oils like waking frankenstein's monster, and retards like you will still look at the sallowed bottles of crisco and think "nope, no bullshit here!"
>>22099109I never said anything about seed oil.
>>22099118You were thinking it, dammit.
>>22099114I just know grandpa ate like shit, was 300 lbs, and lived to 87. He smoked and drank in his youth and ate horribly until the day he died. I refuse to believe everyone is eating all of this stuff and dying from it when their lives are so long. Maybe grandpa would have been 92. But eating 'natural' fridge peanut butter and tofu wouldn't have made him happy. I don't even have a dog in this fight. I don't eat peanut butter. But if I did I wouldn't give a fuck what was in it if it came from a store and was approved by the FDA. If it's on the shelves it's not dangerous.
>>22099063I would rather make a chicken satay sandwich with caramelized onion.
>>22099087> If it's for sale it's safeSHIGGY DUDE LMAO>>22099007I like real peanut butter for smoothies and sauces, it's horrible for sandwiches or any other application..For baking, it was absolutely great for fudge but not for cookies. I could probably figure out the cookies but to your point, the effort isn't worth it lolNatural is also what I give my dogs pills with tho:3
>>22099007>natty peanut butter just fucking sucks100% wrong, 100% of the time.
>>22099091>>22099168Maybe if the government could be trusted I'd agree with you, but you sound retarded. I don't live afraid of what's on the shelves and regularly eat UPF, seed oils etc, when it's convenient. But I'm not going to assume they are perfectly safe because the govt or current science says so because I know for a fact that science changes over time. More studies and more data inherently creates change. There's nothing wrong with understanding that and taking care of yourself. Good luck out there lmao
>>22099192Yeah, but what since radium and asbestos has been so terrible for the public? I'm middleaged now and I'm in great shape, people around me are getting very old, and I just don't see it. I don't think in a few years or decades or ever that we're going to find out the conspiracy nuts were all correct and that Diet Coke and talking on cell phones and eating popcorn fried in tropical oils was responsible for mass cancer deaths. But we'll see. Surely some government fatcat is getting a little richer ignoring the "facts" about red dye #17, which is causing autism and colorblindness in infants.
>>22099168Then just day you're ignorant and don't mind eating harmful slop and otherwise recede from the issue entirely
>>22099201I meanThey were all correct about sex freaks and child rapists running the government across the worldAnd, plenty of non-food related conspiracies about the government have been releasedLastly, you're assuming I believe scientists are lying or something when it's literally just lack of data. The government lies for sure, but scientists just need time and funding usually.UPFs are receiving increasingly negative opinions but they also agree more data is needed. Is it smart to assume the data will trend positive towards UPFs on the next study when all other health indicators are getting worse?
>>22099201>Yeah, but what since radium and asbestos has been so terrible for the public?>More than 278 000 deaths each year globally can be attributed to intake of industrially produced trans fat.
>>22099007I made the switch to all natural and now I can't go back because emulsified peanut butter tastes horribly sweet to me. It's almost sickening compared to all natural. I can only imagine this is what it's like when euros try american bread
>>22099240They sell unsweetened emulsified peanut butter now.
>>22099201The sugar lobby paying scientists to say excess sugar not bad.
>>22099007I understand, OP. Imagine if we fed a chimp pop tarts and hot pockets as a kid, it would have a skewed sense of what is choice and what isnt in terms of ze diet
>>22099007>Look I'm sorry but natty peanut butter just fucking suckstruth.
>>22099096>oops it actually killed a lot of peopleno it didn't.
>>22099007drysucks the moisture out of your mouthhas to be stirredeven the dog won't eat it.is a runny mess
>>22099066>highly processedEverything is processed, retard, even that cute bundle of homosexually sourced fake branded organic vegetable slop you buy to stick up your boyfriends asshole.
>>22099007just put peanuts and a little salt in a food processor you silly nog
>>22099087
>>22099007 Highly processed PB was created specifically for parents who make a lot of PB&J sandwiches for their kids. Not sure of any adults eat PB&J sandwiches (that'd be weird). Natural crunchy mogs for all other applications
>>22099464Yes it did. Partially hydrogenated oil was made illegal and declared unsafe, and people are still dying from it where it's still used. >>22099481>Everything is processedThis is a dumb statement. It's just showing that you're pedantic and can't infer context.
>>22099216Source?
>>22099548> Can't infer context I hate it when retards do shit like that but I never knew how to explain what they were doing other than being retarded
>>22099180https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY
>>22099114Retard is because up until the 1980s the majority of individuals worked in some sort of physically demanding employment, and physical activity was still highly supported in schools. Turns out when you embrace neoliberalism and make every job a sedentary one you commute to, while making single income households untenable in vast swathes of the country, people get unhealthy. >muh sneed oilsIt's the fucking sugar shoved in absolutely every project possible
>>22100242>the liberals have made everyone lazy. If it weren't for them we'd all be buff farmers who walked everywhere and no one would be fat. All this book learnin' and smarty pants office work. Fuckin' libs, am I right?
>>22099091Glad retards like you suffer from cancer and die slow deaths its such a fitting end to such a worthless failure of a human
>>22100242>it can't possibly be uncle moshe's seed oils it's sugarboth can be true
>>22100276You're not going to get any cancer though. Because you eat a very strict diet. hahahaha
If I ever get asscançer I promise to keep posting for youse guys' entertainment. We can even do a weekly lotto where you goad me into cooking and eating things that will cause explosive bloody diarrheum because I'm on the way out anyway might as well learn something
I fookin love peanuts.Peanut butter? Bleh
>>22100356pealegumes and pealegumebutter
>>22099210They were also right about partially-hydrogenated oils and trans fats literal decades before the Government caught on. They were also onto cholesterol not being bad for you while the FDA was releasing food pyramids putting starches and grains at the very bottom for 50 years. These are the people called 'conspiracy theorists'. A quick tip is if it's Kosher, it's safe. They won't poison their own.
>>22099210>>22100369
>>22100369>A quick tip is if it's Kosher, it's safe. They won't poison their own.Plenty of junk food is kosher. Partially hydrogenated oil was kosher. Israel has an issue with obesity/heart disease that some people are blaming on high consumption of seed oils.
For some odd reason here the offbrand peanut butter is cheaper and 100% peanuts while the brand stuff is more expensive and 90% peanuts, 10% palm oil.
>>22100397Buy a few up while you can. It won't last forever.
>>22100369>jewslol, you're the conspiracy theorist.
>>22100373What is your point with this? I don't support Trump because I don't support the government at all. I'm way more willing to trust academia and treat science like the indefinite learning opportunity it is. Unlike the recent trend of treating it like an infallible religion
Caribbean store near me sells jars of peanut butter that is unlabelled and it's insanely good, its so oily though
>>22101666the point is you're talking about all the horrible things that have come to light but actually all the horrible things come to light only when heavily redacted
>>22099911https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/trans-fat
>>22099007I used unnatural peanut butter my whole life and recently tried some natural for the first time. At first it didn't seem too bad, the stirring was fine. What eventually got me and made me kind of hate it is how it dried up before I finished it all. I guess there wasn't enough oil since I took too much with the peanut butter in previous servings. So not only do you have to stir, you have to balance how much oil you portion each time? Now that's asking too much.
>>22099986people above 80 IQ can infer and i get why nobody bothers to explain shit to a retard like you
>>22099008Neither of the ones you mention are "natural peanut butter".The real "natural peanut butter" contains peanuts and salt. That's it. Nothing else. It's good stuff.Back in the 1980s one of the local grocery stores had a grinder where you'd put a jar under it, push a button, and it would fill the jar with freshly ground peanut butter using the peanuts in its hopper. It was kino.
>>22101990They have that at two of the supermarkets in my area. I honestly prefer it from the jar, but it's cool to get some fresh like that sometimes for making a sauce.
>>22099056>not to eat it like a dog off a zoophile's spoon.The meme is that we put it on our genitalia to get the dogs to lick there. In real life I don't know anyone who's ever used peanut butter to entice their dogs. You just show them how great sex can be and they're always eager to do it. In fact, you have to train them not to initiate it all the time because if you let them, they'll do it in public.I've seen one video of a chick using condensed milk to get the dog to lick her clit. Seemed messy and unsanitary. Much better to find a dog that loves to lick people and train it to lick in the right spot.
>>22101972What? I never asked anyone to explain, excuse me for poor language skills
>>22099007peanuts are not healthy, period.
>>22101683There's plenty not redacted about MLK, crack distribution, gun running, human experimentation, and "illegal" domestic surveillance
>>22102066They're a good source of fat and protein and are delicious when roasted and salted. They are healthy, as is anything in moderation. You're "nuts". lol
>>22102093>good source of fatu don't need fat in such a concentrated form, especially as an overfed first world human.
>>22102112I choose not to overfeed myself so there's plenty of room in my diet for cracking the shells on some roasted peanuts now and then. Avoid them if you want, lunatic. They are no detriment to my health.
>>22102131There is no way to not overfeed yourself if you consume peanuts and high fat foods in general. have you noticed that everyone is fat? It's because they casually eat foods like peanuts when they really shouldn't. I ban all fatty food from my diet and I'm a normal weight, healthy, happy, satisfied, human. Fat fucks you up, its like alcohol. It is kind of like a poison.
>>22102138>I ban all fatty food from my dietNo wonder you're brain-damaged.
>>22102143high fat diets reduce blood flow to the brain.
>>22102138You are strange and you make broad generalizations about people. I was in one of those BBQ restaurants with the casks of peanuts and shells all over the floor, and maybe 30% of the patrons were fat. I'm not fat and I can eat peanuts. Fuck off with your simpleminded view of the world. It's simply not true.
>>22102155>eating any peanuts at all or any fatty foods = high fat dietYou're terrible at this.
>Erm actually this food is bad because>Erm actually this food is unhealthy due to>Erm this food is killing you actually because it contains>Meanwhile, sits on their ass watching stranger things drinking diet coke and taco bell, while sitting in a car that's recirculating odourless exhaust gasses after not having stepped into a gym or some any sporting exercise for 20 years
>>22102160the caloric density of peanuts is so immense that you can't really eat any of them. Fat is addictive as well, so you can't just eat one or two. And all fat you consume is added to your body fat.
>>22102174That's all fucking wrong. Stop arguing in bad faith. You can make room in your diet to eat as many of them as you fucking want. And you can stop when you want. And if you burn more calories than you eat then no fucking fat is stored. You're the biggest idiot I've seen arguing in a while. Kindly fuck off.
>>22102194Fat has opiate like effects on the brain. You cannot include fatty foods in a healthy diet in a first world country where fatty food is so easy to get.
>>22102198I can. And so can anyone else. No more feeding the troll though. Good day.
>>22102174>>22102198>fat is addictive>fat has opiate like effects>carbs are also addictive>sugar is more addicting than cocaine>milk has opioids in it>starch makes you fatGreat, so we should only eat protein and die of protein poisoningStop comparing food to drugs, it's so ridiculous and people just try to compare whatever they don't like to drugs. Same thing with people saying something is a "bomb" of sugar or fat. Barring individual tolerance issues, minimally processed foods don't really cause health problems. People on whole food diets don't develop many issues from diet. Just stop eating ultraprocessed junk food which is the actual problem. Not peanuts or fruit or milk or grains or starch or carbs or vegetables or literally anything that people get hyperfocused on and blame for all their problems while somehow ignoring the issue of ultraprocessed food in general.
>>22102067Ah so they can release unredacted sensitive information. Interesting
It's good freshly made. As in that day. Otherwise, it's awful. I'll take the adulterated shit over the real stuff nine times out of ten. Lecithins ain't never hurt nobody, nyamean
>>22102217Natural starches don't make you fat. Refined starches like flour can to some extent, though less so than fat.Refined sugars are bad but fruit is alright in moderation. Aspartame renders the sugar issue moot because it s such a great substitute. I eat mostly starch and put aspartame on everything. Aspartame is much healthier than adding sugar and salt to my food.
>>22102253>natural food bad artificial sweetener goodyikes
>>22102253Dude, there's stevia now. WTF?
>>22102288stevia is much more expensive.both stevia and aspartame are non toxic. Aspartame is just 2 amino acids bonded together.I've never tried stevia.
>>22102315Aspertame is only tolerable and has an aftertaste. I don't know where you live that Stevia is prohibitively expensive. How much could you possibly be using or how much poverty are you suffering??Next time you're anywhere with coffee or drinks try the yellow packet instead of the pink and you will taste the difference. But I guess people who fuss over money will always use something worse. Same with butter and margarine.
>>22102330Stevia sweetener has Erythritol in it I don't like that stuff.The aspartame I buy has no aftertaste, to me anyway. I put it on everything. People put salt on just about everything, so instead of making food salty, I'm making it sweet. Starch is very plain tasting so aspartame makes it palatable.
>>22099007spread on a tortilla wrap with some sweet apple slices it works, but i know what you mean
>>22102436Oh, so you're a lunatic anyway. You think like 'godbless' guy. You don't believe in rules.Whatever. Eat your chemical sweetener sprinkled all over everything like a weirdo.
>>22099007>contains:>peanuts>less than 1% of: saltlet me guess, you need more?
>>22102800>Aspartame has a scary chemical sounding name so it must be bad.
>>22103130Aspartame tastes bad and it's currently listed at potentially carcinogenic by the WHO, as well as potentially an appetite stimulator. More importantly though, it fucking tastes bad
>>22099007I agree. Nothing beats jif
>>22103137salt is literally a carcinogen. Aspartame is not a carcinogen. 'potentially carcinogenic' is meaningless.Salt is strongly linked to stomach cancer. The threat is real. I use aspartame as a salt replacement. it's smart. I am smart. You are a fool.the aspartame brands I buy taste great.
>>22103184haha, I'm not sure I even believe this. You're an odd one.
>>22103184> MORE IMPORTANTLY IT TASTES BADYou're just a tastelet who tries to act healthier than thou
>>22103184>salt is literally a carcinogen. So is air.
>>22103184
>>22099087>if its for sale its safeLMAOOOOOOstrongest goy
>>22103184Gr8 b8 m8
>>22103184Not according to the WHO> Sugar as salt replacementPic rel
>>22103454What food is for sale that any official entity has found unsafe?Oh, no one but incel schizos with no credentials are sounding the alarms on these deadly products? I guess it doesn't count then. Maybe stop spreading distrust and disinformation, faggot.
>>22099007>use hand mixer to blend the paste and oil>put mixed jar in refrigerator to prevent separation
>>22100360I'd hardly call it a "butter" either. It's more of a paste. Maybe a puree.
>>22104318Erythritol was linked to increased stroke risk in some studies. I dunno why you'd ignore how many products have been called safe then later banned once harm became undeniable. I guess you want to believe you're being kept perfectly safe? But unfortunately there are plenty of people who are either careless or malicious and you still need to maintain a little vigilance.
>>22099007Could you just buy the natural stuff and stir in a little liquid clarified butter or coconut oil to prevent the peanut oil from separating out?
>>22104414Yeah, I really should just immediately distrust all institutions and assume my government is allowing me to slowly be killed by corporations. I should be on the lookout for "whistleblowers" of social media to tell me half of what I eat and the things I cook and store food in are deadly.
>>22104483Yeah, your only options are delusional belief that you're 100% safe or delusional belief that you're 0% safe. There can't be any middle ground, reasonable approach to this. It has to be one extreme or the other.
>>22104508What can I say? I'm Totally Extreme, Dude!
>>22104533rad
>>22104318>>22104483Why don't you trust the science? Science is usually ahead of govt, it's not about the govt lying but being a slow and ignorant regulatory body. Just like how obnoxious and stupid >>22104483 sounds, it's not all of nothing. Things that are bad for you and can kill you like alcohol can be consumed in moderation
>>22102253niggas taking the bait hard, bravo
>>22102253>mootwho?
>>22099015>hydrogenated oil is safe. the science-priest said so
>>22104608What a waste of paper and plastic. Who the fuck idolizes Netflix so much? I won't even use it since they stopped shipping DVDs by mail.
>>22104617Good lord, I hate his gaping mouth
