Just found out that I have a high total cholesterol and freakishly high LDL for a 25 year old gamer. I barely even eat meat and am vegetarian most of the time, eating a lot of dairy and cheese. I don't really use butter for cooking at all, only olive or avocado oil, and don't eat many baked goods or cakes. I do eat ice cream regularly. The dairy is the only thing that I can think of causing my numbers to be this bad. I also binge drink 4-5 days per week and don't exercise. What foods am I supposed to eat in order to lower my LDL and cholesterol? I see people online saying that you should try eating <10g of saturated fat per day to achieve lowering cholesterol, but how is this even possible unless you eat nothing but raw vegetables and fruits?
Eat more fiber. Take metamucil. And go exercise you lazy bum even as simple as walking for a half hour a day (for starters).
you need to take medication if it's that high your body just naturally makes too much
>>22099142>also binge drink 4-5 days per week and don't exercise.Have you considered not doing this?
>>22099142I know a guy like this who actually exercises and didn't drink much, it's just genetics for some people. Do your best to fix your drinking and exercise, but since your diet seems low cholesterol already I'd plan to see your doctor regularly. Get scans often so you're not blindsidedThe guy I knew was the picture of health until about 60, when he keeled over at work and needed a 5 valve bypass surgery. He's still kicking though, at 78! Still biking everyday tooEat more fish, legumes, exercise, and see your docYou'll do fine B)
>>22099142high LDL means you are eating bad shityou need to eat eggs and potatoes and get activeyou need to take a physical job where peopleare going to push you and you cant be lazy and sit aroundstart drinking lots of water get in the sun move your bodythis is fixable without medstrust meyou dont want to be that guy who is on 8 different things to all counteracteach other just to get out of bedfood is your medicine
>>22099255go work at a grocery store and dont hide in the backwork with the customers and the productand dont be entitled just go with the flowin six months you will be a new manAND STOP DRINKING FOR CRYING OUT LOUDcome on man that shit is wrecking youmake some homemade strawberrry lemonade instead
>>22099142Try replacing the dairy with more binge-drinking, something like 12 to 14 times per week. See how that works for 8 to 6 weeks, and report back here. Thread will still probably be up, but if its not, keep bumping it with progress pics.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDe99DuaKI&pp=ygUfYnJvIHlvdSBqdXN0IGFjdGl2YXRlZCBnb2QgbW9kZdIHCQlkAqO1ajebQw%3D%3D&ra=mlisten to this video over and over until it clicksread the top comment on this videoYOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT
>>22099142Are you overweight? That's usually a big cause of most things like this, so losing weight will help. >I also binge drink 4-5 days per week and don't exercise.Obviously this isn't helping. You can't diet your way out of this. You're binge drinking more often than not.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aLX6I-e5nrk&pp=ygUNZGJ6IGdyYXZlbWluZA%3D%3D&ra=mOP I WONT LET YOU GO DOWN LIKE THIS
>>22099147I started fibermaxxing after I first found out and my cholesterol and LDL only went up slightly while everything else stayed the same>>22099148When I was 23 everything was all normal and I probably ate even worse back then I just drank slightly less>>22099255I have a job where I walk and stand a lot but due to injuring my foot I have been trying to reduce the amount of time I spend standing>>22099281I don't know what you consider overweight but my BMI is 22. Also I know a lot of people have different definitions of binge drinking but what I mean is I drink 3 drinks over a 2-3 hour period on a lot of nights because it helps me sleep especially if I am anxious.
>>22099301ah fuck! what kind of injury brother?im sorry to hear that puts an major damper on things
>>22099305My toe got hit and the nail was bent backwards and partially detached. It reattached itself, but a few months later, I had a huge outbreak of plantar warts all over the bottoms of both feet which were extremely painful and I guess I got infected from my broken toenail since I didn't get any medical treatment for it. It took several months of covering the bottoms of my feet in acid and laser surgery to remove them all. They don't hurt as consistently now, but I have had random bouts of metatarsalgia in both feet ever since then. It's really not severe enough to use it as an excuse, I just hate going outside which is why I don't exercise.
>>22099301>my BMI is 22That's alright>binge drinking but what I mean is I drink 3 drinks over a 2-3 hour period on a lot of nightsI wouldn't consider that binge drinking, but probably more than is reasonably healthy to consume and could be contributing. Do you smoke?I've heard that various deficiencies can cause high cholesterol. Vitamin C is one that is supposed to help lower cholesterol. You could look up any other and see if your diet might be low in them and try that.I've also heard that sugar intake can cause cholesterol problems because some of it gets converted to fat in the liver. If you're regularly eating ice cream and drinking alcohol it could be taxing your liver too much because they both affect your liver in similar ways. It's why people who consume too much sugar for too long end up with liver disease just like alcoholics.
>>22099320Abuse Vitamin cThen take hallucinogensThen you won't drink as much!
Being a lazy drunk is the problem.
>>22099142>Just found out that I have a high total cholesterol and freakishly high LDL for a 25 year old gamer. I barely even eat meat and am vegetarian most of the time,Yeah you are cholesterol deficient. Eat more meat.
>>22099142You need to fast. Skip breakfast, eat a small lunch like an egg sandwich, with some fruit or fiber cereal. Then a healthy dinner like salmon with veggies and non fried potatoes. Do this for a month, and your should be ok.
>>22099142Probably the drinking not helpingLDL is usually just "slop" or shitty carbs too
>>22099142cholesterol is good for you, your brain and also testosterone are almost the same chemical as cholesterol
>>22099485ldl is low density lipoproteinits the good stuff
>>22099314GODDAMN ANON THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING NIGHTMAREHOLY SHIT GIVE YOURSELF CREDIT BRO YOU ARE A BEASTFOR WALKING AND WORKING LIKE THAT
>>22099142>only olive or avocado oil,Still more oleic than ideal, especially if adulturated. Switch to ghee or tallow(beef — pork and chicken Omega-6 fucky diets too readily get skewed with the trash they're fed). After that look into arterial plaque mitigating supplementation (K2 for a start, keeps the vasculaturepliable, plus sequestered calcium in bones & making D3 usable). Statins are ... well, enjoy dementia later.
Your body is producing cholesterol in response to inflammation caused by shit diet, no exercise and alcoholism
>>22099730You've got them reversed senpai.
>>22099273brown zoomers are so fucking stupid lmao
>>22099301delete the gay cat pictures, exercise and quit daily drinkingtry to get some bitches aswell, take salsa dance course or some shit
>>22099142Dairy fat contains mirystic fatty acid that's great at increasing ldl. Don't eat dairy fat. Don't eat beef fat. If you want a rule of thumb, indeed stop eating sat fats. This includes plant fats like palm oil. If you want more detailed breakdown, ask AI about fatty acids that increase ldl. Lean meat, beans, veggies, fish is what you should eat now.
>>22099493My testosterone was above average for a zoomer
>>22099142what you eat has no bearing on your cholesterol.
>>22102531This. It's just genetics like weight
>>22099142Cheese and dairy are elevating it, especially in high amounts. I had a friend in elementary school who ate whole blocks of grated cheese and had high cholesterol. Binge drinking making it worse. You need to cut down on dairy and drinking switch to a more plant based diet and try exercising. This isn't rocket science, you already know what you are doing wrong.
>>22102531factually and demonstrably untrue
>>22102531Except for the 15% of the populations with the hyper-responder genotype.
>>22102531Nutrition is the biggest factor in preventable disease. This is a lie. High fat diets combined with binge drinking like OP is doing is bad for anyone.
>>22099142eat a very low fat high natural starch diet and skip dinner.get a pressure cooker and steam cook all your food.eat foods like oatmeal, bean tomato stew, squash, potatoes, sweet potatoes, plantains, carrots, air popped popcorn and the like, add aspartame to food to make it palatable. and don't drink alcohol.
I'm struggling with this as well. Fiber maxxing and less saturated fat I think is the silver bullet diet wise
>>22099142>I barely even eat meat and am vegetarian most of the timeWhat do you think causes LDL to go up?It's Sneed oil specifically that does it
>>22102729Does avocado count as a sneed oil? I only use avocado and olive oils at home, I used to use butter for some things but not as much anymore. I never use any kind of sneed oils at home but I know they are snuck into just about every product these days so my exposure isn't zero but should be much lower than most people. I don't eat at restaurants either so that should reduce my exposure too.
>>22099142Stop drinkingExercise more, even just walking half an hour a day is better than nothingDo you consume a lot of eggs? Eggs don't contribute to cholesterol levels for most people but you could be part of the minority where they do raise cholesterol.
>>22102755Avocado is the least bad of the bunch because it's extracted from the flesh and not the pit itselfYou really should stick to animal fats when cooking though, they're more stable and don't oxidize as much when heatedThey where the real damage is done That's one of the main issues with the sneed oils in the first place aside from their lipid profile and being high in linoleic acid which causes inflammation and DNA damage, is the process they're made exposes them to high heat so they oxidize and become toxicCold pressed isn't just a meme You know how one oil in your cast iron pan gets heated and polymerizes to become a coating? That's what happens when oil is heated and reheated You really don't want to be eating that shit
>>22102798>Avocado is the least bad of the bunchGonna be autistic for a sec and point out fruit oils like avocado/olive/coconut are not part of the bunch at all. Like you said, they're pressed from the flesh.
>>22102806Yeah they're permissible, but the refined versions are sneed tier too because they go through the same RBD processLike EVOO and "olive oil" are totally different products basicallyPeople buy regular olive oil thinking its the same as EVOO when its basically just canola at that point
>>22102806olive juice goes rancid really quickly. I'd steer clear of olive oil entirely. Buy high oleic Safflower or Sunflower oil instead.
>>22103082>Like EVOO and "olive oil" are totally different products basicallyOlive oil can still be high quality, it just won't meet stricter standards to be labeled as extra virgin. Light olive oil is what has been refined similarly to most canola oil.The less refined stuff is probably healthier but eating a lot of any refined fat probably isn't good for you and you should be getting most of your fat from whole foods instead. I don't think the issue with seed oil is that it comes from a seed but that it's just a processed food similar to white sugar and white flour. Eating seeds and fruit and whole grains won't really cause as many issues as eating a lot of refined oil/sugar/flour.
>>22103133Seed oils with their processing aside still aren't suitable because of their makeupAs they say the dose make the poison, you want a little bit of omega 6 but too much drives all sorts of metabolic issues, heart disease, auto immune shitOne tablespoon of sunflower oil has the equivalent of 2 pounds if sunflower seedsAn impossible amount to eat in it's raw form but easily overdosed on in oil form
>>22103146>One tablespoon of sunflower oil has the equivalent of 2 pounds if sunflower seedsNaw it's not that much. Sunflower seeds are like half fat. Assuming perfect extraction you'd only need about 30g of sunflower seeds to get a tablespoon of oil which is about 1/4 cup. I know omega 6 has been blamed for things but it doesn't seem like people who eat a lot of nuts and seeds experience the issues it gets blamed for. Blaming omega 6 when everyone is eating processed food and most people are overweight is kind of missing the point. Everything will cause problems if it's being overconsumed, whole foods are harder to overconsume and will result in weight loss and improved health even if it still has omega 6 or carbs or whatever people want to blame.
>>22103152I just don't see any reason to be taking in plant based foods when animal based ones are available to youThey're already nutritionally robust, easily digestible, and pretty much impossible to overeatI genuinely think what people should do when they're hungry is eat a pound of beef and then decide if they even want anything elseI'll admit I'm guilty of sneaking some avocados and blueberries, and when nobody is looking I might even have some cashewsBut for the most part it's beef, lamb, and if I'm feeling peckish a little slice of butterI tend to stay away from salting my food too because I want to make sure I'm eating for the food not the hit of sodium, and then I'll have salt separately on its own if I want some
>>22103165>a little slice of butterWhy not milk? I'm guessing you have an issue with carbs then.Anyway, we're omnivores. Carbs give energy to our brains and muscles, your brain can use over 100g of carbs per day and your muscles/liver can hold another 500g or so for energy. There isn't really any downside to eating carbs if they're not heavily processed and overeaten. Nobody is really having issues from fruit unless they can't digest sugar well and it gives them digestive issues. Nobody is really having issues from potatoes unless they get loaded up with processed fat. I don't really think everyone is meant to be eating a lot of meat anyway. It's been normal for some people to mostly have dairy at times, I feel better just drinking milk more often and might only want to eat meat once in a while. But other than that I'd be happier just eating some potatoes or brown rice or something like that. Hunter-gatherer groups that exist today will eat meat whenever they can get it but they often say honey is their favorite food and they'll eat a lot of it regularly too, and sometimes they even say fruit is preferred over meat too. They're all pretty healthy despite consuming carbs and more sugar than we think is healthy.Also if you're mostly just eating meat then you're still missing out on a lot of nutrition. Organs and things like blood provide way more nutrients than meat does. That's why a lot of carnivores will go for those things first.
>>22103165plants are packed with antioxidents.While digesting animal foods overloads the body with free radicals.Free radicals basically 'rust' the body from the inside out. They are super bad for you. Anti oxidants are like sacrificial ions, like chromium in stainless steel. Only monumental retards eat exclusively animal foods.
>>22103180I love milk but the Beta-casomorphins are too powerful, I'll end up drinking loads of it, same with cheese That's a big trap people fall into especially when they start doing low carb for weight loss and use cheese because it aggressively stimulates your appetiteButter doesn't have them though because they separate out of it in the milk solids, so it's actually effectively satiating As for the carbs in the energy and all that, People don't realize this but your body is able to synthesize all the glucose that it needs from amino acids. If you are eating carbohydrates it's not going to do that. the process is gluconeogenesis and it's a normal thing your body is able to do since obviously as a wild animal you don't really get a choice of what you're eating and when you're eating it, so you need to be able to do things like that When you first eliminate or reduce your carbohydrate intake you're going to feel sluggish because your body hasn't kicked into production on its own yet, but once it acclimates you end up feeling normal
>>22103188You should go down the rabbit hole of tissue glycation That's the irreversible damage plant foods do to your body Have you ever noticed that vegans tend to look in some cases decades older than they really are? That's direct DNA damage from tissue glycation caused by all the excess sugar in their bodies
>>22103198>the Beta-casomorphins are too powerfulNonsense. You're more likely to end up drinking more milk than just eating butter because drinking milk tastes better and is more nutritious. I could eat more whole peanuts than just drinking peanut oil but that's just because whole peanuts taste better. >People don't realize this but your body is able to synthesize all the glucose that it needs from amino acids.Your body can also create the cholesterol that it needs but that's not going to stop you from consuming cholesterol is it? Your body might be able to create the bare minimum of glucose it needs to function but that doesn't mean it's the optimal amount. That's why people on low carb diets often complain of dehydration because carbs help hydration and give quick energy to your muscles which is good if you have any amount of physical activity. >>22103203It's more likely that they're just dealing with nutritional deficiencies causing those issues rather than something more complicated like that.
>>22103222 Nah cheese and dairy are different than something like peanuts. It's not nonsense they actually engage your opioid receptors Now as for me I don't go out of my way to consume anything my body produces on its own Much like our friend the gorilla who does not search for protein or fat because he's able to digest fiber which becomes protein and fat his, body synthesizes it It's going in as a carbohydrate but it's being converted to lipidsWe can't do such a trick so our only choice is to chase down other animals that already turned the grass and leaves into those things and eat it directly off of them. It was so important our entire physiology adapted around being able to do that not just in our height the length of our legs or upright stance but even our genetic disposition and aptitude toward expanding our range We had to follow the herds. People may have snacked on things they foraged along the way, even a dog sometimes chews grass and berries, but the goal was always meat. That's how we ended up with our symbiotic relationship with canines all together, we were both after the same thing and instead of competing for it started working together for it.
>>22103741>Nah cheese and dairy are different than something like peanuts. It's not nonsense they actually engage your opioid receptorsYou have opioid receptors in your gut. Milk having this makes sense because it's a liquid and it needs to slow down for digestion otherwise it can go through too quickly and can cause diarrhea. It's nonsense to talk about it like it's heroin and it's always extreme dieters with some kind of personal grudge against milk for other reasons bringing this up.> People may have snacked on things they foraged along the way, even a dog sometimes chews grass and berries, but the goal was always meat.Agriculture lead to increased production of enzymes for digesting starch. Or lactose in some people with dairy animals being domesticated. But even with hunter-gatherers there are some who have higher rates of genes for digesting starch. Hazelnuts were eaten in huge amounts in Europe before agriculture. Modern hunter-gatherers say honey is their favorite food and they like it more than meat. You're mixing some facts with a bit of fantasy to suit your preconceived ideas about carbs bad meat good but there's plenty of evidence against what you're claiming. > That's how we ended up with our symbiotic relationship with canines all together, we were both after the same thing and instead of competing for it started working together for it.And pretty much all dogs now are omnivores unlike carnivorous wolves, which wouldn't have happened if humans weren't also eating significant amounts of plant foods.
>>22099142>I barely even eat meat and am vegetarian most of the time, eating a lot of dairy and cheeseIt's the dairy. I ate mostly vegetarian and my cholesterol was high and it took me a while to realise that it was the dairy fat raising my numbers, especially cheese.
>>22103767I don't have a personal grudge against milk, I said I like milk quite a lot But then you realize over time that little macchiato you're having is turning into a latte that's more milk than coffee As for our pets, It's funny the only animals that have chronic metabolic issues the same way humans do are the ones we keep in our homes and feed the same things we eat A dog that is on raw fed grain free diets are by every measure so much healthier and visibly healthier looking than dog's eating kibble slop and byproducts And I do want to address the hydration, It's true that when you remove carbohydrates from your diet people have issues with hydration and electrolytes because their body doesn't hang on to water the same way obviously The It's true that when you remove carbohydrates from your diet people have issues with hydration intellectual lights because their body doesn't hang on to water the same way obviously You just need to consciously up your water and salt intake and will be fineIt's 4:00pm so I'm starting to get a little hungry, this will be what I eat for today
>>22103830>I don't have a personal grudge against milk, I said I like milk quite a lotBut you'll act like it's a drug and that the carbs in it is inherently bad, and saying you shouldn't really have it. And acting like finding it enjoyable to drink it means it's worse than eating a stick of butter which is less enjoyable. That logic only really applies to ultraprocessed food where it might taste good and cause you to crave eating a lot of it, but it's not very nutritious and is bad for you. The same doesn't really apply to minimally processed food. > As for our pets, It's funny the only animals that have chronic metabolic issues the same way humans do are the ones we keep in our homes and feed the same things we eatWell part of that problem is feeding dry food. Most people don't have any issues eating fresh fruit but if you have them eat only dry fruit they'll end up consuming a lot more than they would otherwise. Feeding dogs only wet food would likely improve health generally, and the same is true for cats too. Of course there are still other problems with food quality but that's probably the biggest one. >and byproductsByproduct mostly means organs and parts other than meat. It doesn't mean fur or whatever some people might think. It's actually alright to have byproduct in the ingredient list for pet food since organs are generally more nutritious than meat. > You just need to consciously up your water and salt intake and will be finePretty much no carnivore seeks out salt though. That's really only something herbivores do because most plants have very little sodium compared to animal products.
>>22103767Extreme dieters are legit just huge drama queens. They can't justify their actions without using extreme language to talk about the other options lol
>>22099142I just cut my fat intake and my numbers improved. It sucks eating low fat but it works. Cheese and dairy is a big one to avoid. They say saturated fat is the main type of fat to avoid and it probably is but I find it difficult to differentiate the fat types so I just avoided all fat for practical purposes.
>>22099142bad food-eating genetics hopefully you are otherwise lucky at the draw and have a big dick or a 6 pack of abs or really cool hair or something to make up for it.
>>22104562I consider the people advocating for eating dozens or even hundreds of different foods to be the extreme ones"Balanced diet" is a marketing term big AG came up with, not a scientific one
>>22105061You can have a balanced diet of a few ingredients. Baka
>I also binge drink 4-5 days per week and don't exercise.fix this and you will probably be fine. don't wait, it will only get harder as you get older.
