Of the Americanized Chinese dishes, curry chicken stands out as especially refined and tasteful. Certainly more so than General Tso's or sweet-and-sour pork.
>>22100583bluepilled, ur not ready yet for the real deal. chikun, bamboo shoots, chinese shroom and thick soy sauce. served with a side of tres delicias fried rice
>>22100588What's the name of this dish?
>>22100596蒸臭腋毛
>>22100583whenever i have curry chicken it just makes me wish i were eating real curry
>>22100583You ain't never lie. If your area has Three Jades ____ where the blank is whatever meat or tofu you like, that's a good one to ask them to curry-fy. Curried three jades chicken is pretty good if they go heavy on the broccoli and less on the snow peas. In case your area doesn't do Three Jades, that's a stir fry of broccoli, green bell pepper and snow peas with meat of your choice in white sauce (thickened Chinese chicken stock with sesame oil and rice wine; it's the same sauce they use with the steamed "diet" dishes).>>22100588Bro, I grew up in chinkland and my grandma is from a China-adjacent country and I still like Americanized Chinese food. They're both good.
>>22100688that sounds good, I like a lot of veggies in my chinese dishes
>>22100583mid tier at best
>>22100583Got some tonight due to this thread. Good stuff, nice to have something that isn’t coated in sugar syrup.
>>22101221they call it "curry chicken with onion" at my chinese place and I think they emphasize the onion because they put in a whole fucking onion
Chinese curry isn't a thing in the North East. The jungle Asian restaurants do curry. American Chinese food varies greatly depending on where you are in the US.
>>22101246>Chinese curry isn't a thing in the North EastI literally got >>22101221 in Manhattan
>>22101267Manhattan doesn't count. It's Manhattan.
>>22101269It's in the northeast.
>>22101275unfortunately
>>22101275You can get everything in the city though.
>>22101267Maybe it's a new thing to appeal to more people and take the Jungle Asians curry business but I assure you Chinese Curry has not been a regular dish on Chinese restaurant menus in the North East for as long as I can remember which is back to the 80s.
>>22101360>>22101246?I've been in the northeastern US off and on since 1990 and it has absolutely been a thing the entire time. Similar to >>22101225, it's usually called curry chicken with onion most times I come across it. I'm >>22100688, btwWhat is hyper regional are the variations of yat/yak/yakka/yakkamen/yatgawmen. The only northeastern-ish city that has it, Philadelphia, does it really weirdly. Whereas Baltimore and New Orleans do it as a dry noodle stir fry and a noodle soup respectively, Philadelphia does it as a tomato gravy-based dish. You can get beef, chicken, pork, tofu or shrimp yat from Chinese places in Philadelphia's ghettos. It's basically tomato, ketchup, Chinese chicken stock, cornstarch and green onion with protein of your choice served over lo mein.This dish absolutely does not exist in any permutation anywhere in the Northeast. And the gravy version is generally unknown even within Philadelphia itself unless you go to the hood. Same with general tso chicken wings. Really don't get why. GTCW would be well received anywhere and it's kind of retarded that only blacks in Philadelphia get to have it.
>>22101396>>22101360 >>22101246 Here's a menu for New China, Boston. They have chicken curry: https://www.zmenu.com/new-china-restaurant-boston-online-menu/Here's another New China with curry chicken, one in Providence:https://www.newchina-ri.com/And Hartford: https://www.newchinahousehartford.com/rx0ue5rh/new-china-house-hartford-06106/order-online?menu=All+Day+Menu&category=Chicken#menu-sectionI could probably find ones in Springfield, Concord, Portland etc etc etcCurry chicken is absolutely a common Chinese takeout dish in the Northeast.
>>22101414Maybe now but it was not in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
>>22101434It absolutely was. Really wish there was something like oldchinesemenus.com or something so I could show you. I got it when visiting a friend at that university for rich retards in Vermont. I specifically remember it because one of his new uni friends had never had curry so he tried some of mine and I had one of his fried wontons. That was in 2001.
>>22101445Ok, I'll concede maybe a few places had it but it wasn't a common or known dish at Chinese restaurants. I just looked at my Joyce Chen cookbook from 1962 and there's no curry. She ran one the most well known and popular Chinese restaurants in the Boston area. I also wish there was an old Chinese menu site. Best I can do is look at a couple 10-15 year old Chinese restaurant menus I have from MA and none of them have curry.
>>22101445>>22101487>wish there was something like oldchinesemenus.com or somethingAm I one dumb ass nigga or what? I used to work in a library and remembered some of the worthless shit libraries collect. Guess what one of them is? Takeout menus. Here's one from Portland, ME, 1982, that has curry chicken on it: https://digitalcommons.portlandlibrary.com/menus/39/
>>22101572>worthless>used to win a 4chan argumentThank you libraries.
>>22100583how sophisticated
>>22101225That reminds me of this Japanese dish.
>>22101648If that's an argument then the world would be a better place. We didn't get angry, talk past each other or insult each other. We were just talking about our experience with ramalamachingchong food. And besides, me proving that one (1) place had it in the 80s doesn't disprove the other guy's point that it's not as common as I think it is. I looked through several menus on 1980s Portland before finding that one. I haven't checked the Boston, Springfield, Concord, Providence etc etc etc library system's collections of ephemera. The could very well not have any curry at Chinese places at all. >>22102057Yes. Quite.
>>22100583Chop Suey is, too, for that matter.
>>22101246yes it is, literally every takeout place has curry beef / pork / chicken / shrimp on the menu
>>22102282>curry beef / porkNever seen either, just chicken and, much less commonly, shrimp. Even curry tofu isn't really a thing for some reason.
>>22100583this looks good but why is it a curry just looks like chicken veggie mix to me with rice
>>22101572>Found one source from 1982 on the west coast backing his claim>Am I dumbYes. You're dumb. Find east coast menus from back then that have curry and you'll have an argument. Right now you haven't proven anything.
>>22102914>west coastJesus Christ, you're retarded.
>>22102904Before I can answer your question, I need to ask if you think pic related is a curry.
>>22102932>>22102904Or if pic related does?
>>22102934>>22102932>>22102904Or if this one is a curry. Because the answer to all three is yes. These are dry curries from various parts of the subcontinent. Chinese chicken curry is just another style. >>22102914Portland, MAINE, kidderino.
>>22102938Ok fair enough I was just asking idk curries I just thought they were mostly soupy and from India and I don't indian food because idians are disgusting
>>22102946Anon, let me open up your mind. Disgusting nasty people make great shit all the time. Look at the south, and they make great bbq. Look at italians. Disgusting. But they made pizza and pasta or whatever. Asians? *wretch*. They make some of the best curries.So, don't throw the pajeet out with the bath water. Chicken Tikka Masala is fucking amazing.
>>22102938My bad. I saw Portland and stopped reading. But my main point stands. Chinese curry was not a common east coast Chinese dish.
>>22102961>Chicken Tikka Masalais a British dish, not an Indian one.
>>22102963>Chinese curry was not a common east coast Chinese dish.Except it is and always has been. I mean… unless you want to say that Baltimore, Philadelphia, DC and New York are on the west coast or something…New England? Maybe not. But at least one example exists so there are likely many, many more.
>>22102990It isn't and hasn't always been. It might be now but that's a recent development. One menu from 1982 proves it was uncommon. Find more evidence and I'll be willing to change my mind.
>>22102993That's nice. Wrong, but nice. >>22102990>Baltimore, Philadelphia, DC and New York are on the west coast or something…Don't forget Charleston. Not Chinese curry but Charleston is one of the only few American cities and regions to develop their own style of curry, country captain. The others, chicken divan and curried catfish are from New York and Virginia respectively. Curried catfish dates to the early 1800s.
>>22102980>British>Ew>Bomb fucking food.
>>22102963You got totally fucking destroyed. Obliterated
>stir-fry curry>american chineseIt's a fusion dish from after the british took over Hong kong in the 1800s
>>22104038no no... we impwoved it
>>22103011Show proof or you're talking out of your ass. The Chinese who immigrated to the East Coast weren't curry eaters. One menu from 1982 is not proof that curry was a common dish at East Coast Chinese restaurants.
>>22104147>I'm shaking and backtracking like a person with no backbone and no intelligence.
>>22104154Who are you quoting?
NC here. Never seen curry on a menu at a Chinese joint. Only place I know that has curry is a thai joint. Can't say I've ever had it, though. If I were to try one what should I got for first?
>>22103011Neat. I didn't know curried catfish is a thing. Still eaten? Country captain kinda fell off and chicken divan is seen as old fashioned. Is the catfish, like, cooked in a curry gravy or is it coated in currying spices and deep fried like Sri Lankan devilled dishes (see >>22102934; that's devilled pork) or what?>>22102993Except it very much is. I already gave my testimony about having it in Putney, VT in 2001 earlier in the thread. Putney is a middle of nowhere town that if it weren't for my friend attending the College for Retards there, I wouldn't have ever even heard of it.As for other examples, you'll have to give me a while. I chose Portland specifically because their library system is relatively small and therefore would be easy to check their ephemera for relevant menus. NYPL's system has something like 50,000 goshdern menus in it. And Philadelphia's libraries haven't digitized their ephemera collections yet so I would have to go in person.Right now, I'm looking through MOCA's collection. It's a nationwide collection of takeout menus but it's specifically only Chinese (MOCA = Museum Of Chinese in America) so it'll be relatively simple to find examples, I think.>>22104147The Chinese on the East Coast are and always have been majority Cantonese, where the style of curry in OP originated, as >>22104038 said. Other parts of China don't really eat curry. Taiwan does, but that's due to Japanese influence during the war (and they're not China) and Singapore does, but they're also not China. Like I said already, I grew up in Chinkland and the US East Coast off and on since the 90s. I know what I'm talking about here.
>>22104187Shame they don't have northern style red curry.Masaman curry is generally the one I recommend to people who've never had Thai curry. It's from the far south, the Kra isthmus, where Thailand connects to Malaysia. There are s lot of Muslims (Masaman=Muslim) and they prefer sweeter, heartier tastes, like Americans tend to. Penang is also a good first try.
>>22104189Curry is not Cantonese. Curry is from Hong Kong Chinese, not mainlanders. I've been in the North East since the 70s and curry wasn't a common thing in Chinese restaurants.
>>22104200And what language is spoken in HK? Also, ever have Singapore mei fun? That's curry.By the way, my best friend's wife from Zhuhai (which is in Guangdong) and I were talking about food at breakfast this morning. She spent most of the time taking about how awful Taiwanese food is but we did touch on how much we both miss char siu goose and how it's unheard of in America. She also talked about how Hong Kong duck is surprisingly unknown here while everyone is all about Beijing/Peking duck instead. Anyway, I can ask her if curry is common in Guangdong or not (or at least Zhuhai), if you care enough. Having never been to the mainland, I can't speak with any certainty. Also, MOCA's archivist needs to be shot out of a cannon and back into a library science program. They've not catalogued I single thing by date. With one exception so far, you can only guess at the dates of the menus by the prices. Here's the only dated example I've come across so far, from 1997: https://www.mocanyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2022.018.002-2.jpgNot curry chicken, but curry fried rice. Other examples of curry chicken on old menus: https://www.mocanyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2022.018.007-1.jpg / https://www.mocanyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2022.018.007-2.jpgAlso this one, but it's in Texas: https://www.mocanyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2022.018.003-2-1.jpgStill looking.
>>22104214lmaoThat's all they digitized that I can find. Sorry, I'm gonna have to check Boston's et al library systems one by one, it seems.
>>22104215Good luck. You're not going to find much of anything of what you're looking for. This is what east coast and Boston Chinese was. No curry. >Even more important in the growing popularity of Chinese restaurants was the rise of hybrid Chinese American foods like “chop suey.” Chop suey does not refer to a single dish or recipe, but was rather a common method of cooking a mixture of chopped meat and vegetables–what the Chinese called “bits and pieces”–served in a sauce. While the origins of chop suey are hotly debated, it quickly became the most popular Chinese American dish, especially in New York and Boston. Soon Chinese restaurants began to rebrand themselves as “chop suey joints” and focused on appealing to non-Asian customers through menus in both English and Chinese.>Over time, other Chinese American dishes joined chop suey on these menus. Egg foo young, chow mein, and egg rolls became popular fare at Chinatown restaurants by the mid-20th century. Chefs also incorporated local ingredients into their dishes. One striking example is lobster sauce, a sauce made with a base of broth and herbs and served with lobster or shrimp. Unlike in other cities, however, lobster sauce in Boston took on a dark brown color and sweetness as chefs added molasses to the recipe. As a historic center of the sugar trade with the Caribbean, Boston produced a vast amount of molasses, which found its way into local Chinese cuisine.
>>22100583I've had the "chicken curry" at a chinese takeout before. It had the same veggies as most items on the menu, but the sauce they mixed into it was unmistakably golden curry.I like that basic sweet and spicy MSG japanese curry taste though, so I thought it was pretty good.
Pic related is what its looked like for 30+ years in Upstate NY as well as literally every other state I've ever visited. Not sure why Boston anon cannot believe the existence of a common dish that literally is just a premade curry cube + onion + protein.
>>22101246here it is in connecticut you dumb fuck
>>22104748She already moved her goalposts from "IT DOESN'T EXIST, OKAY?!" to "OKAY, IT EXISTS BUT IT'S A NEW THING, OKAY?!" then to "OKAY, IT EXISTS AND IT'S NOT NEW BUT IT WASN'T COMMON IN THE 80s, OKAY?!" after libraryanon posted in >>22104214 and all of those are from the 80s and 90s so Anon already prived it existed in the 80s and 90s. If some podunk hicksburg nobody gives two shits about like Portland, a town so unimportant that she mistook it for the much larger city of the same name on the opposite coast, then it absolutely must've been common in the Northeast. Being a woman, however, she can't allow herself to admit she was ever wrong.
>>22100583https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMgFrQZRo4I
>>22102146why is this so funny
