>be me>normal human who actually cooks every day>pull out my $15 non-stick skillet from Target, been using it 3 years, still flawless>eggs slide out like they're on ice, pancakes flip without a prayer, nothing sticks, cleanup is 10 seconds under the faucet>meanwhile these cast iron/Stainless Steel/“muh carbon steel” virgins are out here seasoning their $200 lodge like it’s their firstborn, spending 45 minutes babying a pan just to scramble some eggs that still taste like shitNon-stick is the final form of cookware. It’s what actual busy adults use. Teflon is a miracle of modern science. Your ancestors would murder their own families to have this instead of scraping carbonized bullshit off iron every night. But no, you “serious cooks” need to flex with your 8-pound pans that require a fucking PhD in metallurgy and a dedicated “seasoning schedule.” Get a load of these fucking clowns.Every time I see a “why is everything sticking???” thread it’s always some faggot who dropped $300 on All-Clad or a 12-inch cast iron he “cured” with bacon grease and prayers. Bro, your dick doesn’t get harder because your pan has patina. You’re not a chef. You will never be a real chef. Real men just want food in their stomach without performing a 2-hour maintenance ritual like some obsessive bottom who needs everything “just right” or he has a meltdown.Non-stick chads rise up. We finish cooking, wipe once, and go live our lives. You cast iron fags are still in the kitchen at 11pm rubbing oil into your boyfriend (and the pan) while crying about “non-stick chemicals” and sneed oils. Newsflash: the only thing turning you gay is the homoerotic obsession with heavy metal cookware and “proper technique.” Touch grass. Or better yet, touch some pussy instead of your overpriced cookware.Prove me wrong. Every “real cook” seething right now is just mad their expensive collection is a giant sunk cost fallacy for men with small chodes and big insecurity.
>>22103928OP, if you ever had trouble with stuff sticking to a stainless steel pan, YOU are the retard.
>>22103939Also I just read more than the first line of your post and now I'm also calling you gay for using AI on 4chan
Stainless steel or glass only and everything I cook is perfect.
Why not have more than one pan? You wanna console war about fucking kitchen equipment?
If something as simple as a pan is truly superior to a different type of pan, you don't have to write an essay about it. It's self evident.Didn't read, learn to cook.
>>22103928didn't read but I just know you're a seething cooklet who got filtered by stainless steel.
>fried eggs in cast iron>just works, cooks fast, doesn't stick, tastes good>fried eggs in "nonstick">all the charred bits stick to the egg instead of the pan and it tastes like carbonized shit
>>22104025>You wanna console war about fucking kitchen equipment?
>>22103928OP is rightcast iron is a meme and you all fell for it
>>22104467Kinda prefer carbon steel. The downsides about nonstick are just longevity and high heat. OP is getting cancerous chunks in his eggs because his nonstick is probably 5 years old.
>>22104467no I didn't, I use all stainless steel equipment. I used to use non stick, SS is way better.
>>22104475Carbon steel is hella, I always keep one for searing or any other foods that requires 400f+/200c+.I still keep a non-stick for fish/eggs/chicken. It is my daily driver. The biggest mistake I believe people with non-stick is not throwing away their fucking non-sticks when it's time. It's a limited-life item, not something to pass down to your grandchild. There are really amazing options for $30 that'll last you a year before you get a new one. That's $2.5/month, time saved from unfucking your proteins from your shit ass cast iron, and minimizing all those pfas shit you're all afraid of
If you don't want seasoning pans to become a hobby, sure go nonstick but you're going to have to replace them often
>>22104492I agree, 6 -12 months max, also silicone tools only
>>22104496What's wrong with Tiktok friendly artisan wooden spatulas though?
you see this part, the edge? wooden spatula will always be thicker than any proper silicone spatula. You can't slide it underneath your fish, your eggs without pushing some part of it above because it's so thick. And if you can you have to slide the wooden spatula at an angle where it highly increases the chances of scratching the pan. With a shallow spatula I could probably enter the edge of a fried egg at 5-10 degrees while with a wooden spatula I'd have to do something ridiculous like 30-45.Also the edge of a wooden spatula always ends up rough and uneven after months of washing. Unless you're sanding it down smooth and I have never seen anyone who has, a wooden spatula will always end up with a rough edge that'll scratch a non-stick.HOWEVER, I still love my wooden spatulas for practically every other pan. It's the perfect fucking tool for stirring mirepoix or anything similar in my enameled dutch oven
>>22104510>>22104502fuck, forgot the reply
>>22104510another win for stainless steel chads, you can use metal cutlery if you don't care about some aesthetic wear and tear. gives you the finest edge to get underneath things, scrapes up fond, and doesn't give your food microplastics.
>>22104492dude literally just buy a stainless steel pan. why is everybody pretending like they don't exist. you can get them quite cheap nowadays, they last forever, are very easy to clean and maintain, gives quality sears on par with cast iron, and can take a beating. the only thing is that there is a minor learning curve in learning how to cook stuff like eggs without sticking, but it's seriously not that hard and you will come out of it a better cook.
>>22104530Stainless steel does take some skill, anon. You can't just hand someone a stainless steel pan and expect them to make eggs without making a mess.
>>22104510>nonstick is so ass that wood can scratch itlmfao
I guarantee you, if modern non-stick had just come out this year (and there are really good non-pfas nonsticks) without the decades of crap teflon, millennials would be buying $400 nonstick pans without a question
>>22104543Anon, you're implying millennials and gen Z even cook
>>22104547millennials are the largest consumer of YouTube cooking contentthey all cook to some degree
>>22104548Watching YouTube cooking videos doesn't mean they actually cook
>>22104551anon people larping what see is the easiest way to sell things
>>22104025A console war over cookware actually makes far more sense than one about game consoles. Gotta cook to live, after all.
>>22104547We cook more (and better) than boomers do. Don't forget who the biggest consumers of TV dinners and frozen foods were.
>>22103928If you can't handle stainless steel you shouldn't be cooking. Cast iron is for poors and I've not yet tried carbon steel.
>>22104524I use a metal spatula in my stainless steel pan all the time, make pan sauces in it regularly, and it doesn't look scratched up at all. I use some BKF and a nonscratch scouring pad on it once a week and it always gets it looking good as new.
>>22104764"Being able" to handle it =/ wanting to spend $200 on a fucking frying pan just to have to spend 40 mins scrubbing oxidized bullshit off metal after every meal just for a little bit of fond.>inb4 "but you need to replace nonstick every year or it'll give you cancer!!"It costs about $15. For a year of bullshit-free cooking. Who fucking cares?
>>22104788Damn, can't cook OR clean. Time to hang it up and get that Factor subscription.
>>22103928Enjoy your man boobs and testicular cancer
>>22104788>burns his food each time he cooks>talking about 'fond' as if he knows what deglazing isSit down. There's nothing to scrub if you deglaze your pan and for someone as inept as you setting in on a stove with some water is enough to lossen the burnt bits and make cleanup a breeze. Non-stick fags once again outing themselves as cooklets.
>>22104823>"Y-you can't just dump your nonstick under a faucet for 10 seconds, dry with a kuchten towel and get on with your day!!!"Seething and insecurity. You fell for ecelebs shilling $200 cookware your whore grandmother dumped when she upgraded to nonstick and never looked back. Enjoy your sunk cost fallacy.
Yes, modern technology is superior to ancient tech like cast iron and more modern yet still inferior steel. Who'd have thunk it?Retards.
>>22103928>has to be replaced every couple of years no matter how careful you are with them.
>>22103939>just douse your pan is 100ml oil or butter bro skill issue broNo thanks I like my 13%bf, and stainless does nothing nonsticks can't do>bro but the SEAR on your STEAKI sear my steak just fine on my non stick talk about skill issue
If you cant make your pan non stick by just cooking with it, you suck and cant cook OP probably has excess estrogen from eating all of the coating that came off his non stick pans >>22104904Everything new is good, like when cigarettes were new and doctors said they were good for youI dont like questioning progress so i just blindly believe new = good
don't care, didn't read. still using my All-Clad later today to make some sauce. Cope/seethe/dilate/etc.
>>22104920>nonstick like teflon>sears like stainlessSTEALTH HEXCLAD THREAD DO NOT REPLY!!! OP IS GORDON RAMSAY SHILLING HIS SHITTY COOKWARE!!!
Different tools for different applications. Non-stick is perfectly suitable or ideal for a large array of situation. If I'm just frying an egg ofc I'll use non-stick. There are other situations where non-stick becomes a detriment. If you need to build a fond to deglaze in order to create the base of a sauce or a stew, non-stick will simply not work for that purpose. You actually need some stickage to happen to create a fond. Personally, in most scenarios I tend to gravitate to my one good carbon steel pan more than anything, but there are tons of situation where other materials are more suitable, whether it's non-stick, aluminium, ceramic, etc. Don't be a retard dealing in absolutes. Use your brain, and pick the right tool for the job.
>>22104922cigarettes are good for you thougheverbeit
>>22104937this
>>22105079wrong
>>22104937You can frond in a sauce pan. Yes, the same one you will later use for the sauce/stew.
>>22103928>>22103928Non-stick is si easy to use. Other pans need prep, attention, maintenance. Stainless sttel is good for a steak and a sauce which I never cook. I mainly cook stews, often with tomato sauce. It's not worth going for trad pans for that. Also, whenever I watch high end cooking shows they are always using high quulity non-stick unless there is a specific technique that they need.
>>22103928sounds like someone who heats water in microwave...
>>22103928Hexclad chad checking in.
>>22103928>busy adultssorry you have a shitty job that doesn't allow for enough free time >>22103939>trouble with stuff sticking to a stainless steelI read the whole thing, and OP abandons stainless steel and only addresses cast iron. He knows he has no answer to stainless steel.
>>22104788>$200You can get a good stainless steel for $30
>>22103939I'd like to see some proof of someone succesfully doing Chef John's parmlet in stainless steel.
>>22103928>been using it 3 yearsat this point you have consumed all the anti-stick material, time to get a new batch.>my $15 non-stick skilletA Berlinger Haus Line Strong Mold cast iron costs 10€ including VAT/taxes, it doesn't need to be replaced every year, nor it has to be treated specially in order to avoid giving you cancer.A stainless steel one, also costs about 10€ and has zero maintainance.I guess you have to know how to fry an egg, because otherwise it might stick, but again, if you can't fry an egg in any pan without sticking, your opinion doesn't matter anyway.mind you that these are lifetime purchases and from retard to skilled in frying eggs it takes at most 5 tries and a couple working braincells.
>>22103928I was a cast iron guy for a while until I discovered ceramic coated pans. They're awesome, almost as nonstick as Teflon, but you can get them way hotter safely, and they're much more scratch resistant. Only like $40 for a decent ceramic coated skillet
>>22103928A lodge costs like $20 new, and you can find them all day every day at goodwill for basically free.
>>22103928>cook steak literally every day>do so in my cast iron>no sticking>no toxic chemicals>get that shit so ripping hot you'd be filling your lungs with plastic on a nonstick>excellent crust>pan cleans up in 30 secondslife is good
I shilled out for titanium, mogs stainless steel for nonstick, mogs aluminum for heat speed, and mogs cast iron for even heating
>>22106167Gets mogged by cast iron for heat retention
>>22106174good thing my stove works fine
>>22105807>hex clad>chadOut of here with your meme pans
>>22103928>>22106156samefag threads are really embarrassing
>>22105832i've done it ask ur mom lol
>>22106182>newfag doesn't know how to detect samefagNo need to cry just because cast iron is superior.
>>22103928cladded carbon steel is the best and it's not even close
>>22103928>Teflon is a miracle of modern science.Shit's been banned since 2013. Update your bate.
>>22106178Oh looks, it's a stainless steellet. Can smell you retards from a mile away.
>>22103928>actual busy adults>Tolstoyesque postYeah, I'll throw away my carbon steel wok because you said so. You're as cancerous as the teflon flakes in your bowel – although your bowel is probably full of aids anyway.
posting this to scare a nigga
