dishwashers are disgusting. always hand wash everything.
>>22106546based
>>22106546>he doesn't wash his dishwasher
>>22106546Skill issue
And this isn't disguting?
>>22106546I think hand washing doesn't get things truly clean. You can't get the water as hot as the dishwasher does (or heat dry it) and as >>22106612 pointed out you're not going to use a brand new clean sponge every single time.
>>22106612>>22106619god gave you two functional hands
>>22106612>he doesn't wash his sponge
>>22106546I rinse everything thoroughly before putting it into the dishwasher so that it’s more of a “disinfectant machine” than anything - and there’s nothing gross about that
>>22106619>You can't get the water as hot as the dishwasher doesum... the hot water heater does that, not the dishwasher.the element on the bottom is only for drying, not heating the water.the water only gets hot when you run the hot water from the faucet first.ALL dishwasher manuals tell you this.technology connections made a vid about it.
>>22106633this is the way
i dont wash my dishes. i use the same bowl over and over and microwave it sometimes to sterilize it
>>22106634And your hands, which you use to wash dishes, can't tolerate the near boiling water
>>22106625Which I use to masturbate. Ain't good for using them to clean. >>22106634The heating element absolutely heats the water up. It's just more efficient if it starts with hot water before making it even hotter.
>>22106634This is just flat out wrong. Most modern dishwashers have a heat boost setting that heats the water above the temp that comes out of the home’s water heater using an internal heating element. You’re correct about running hot water to purge room temp water from the lines. It’s always better to start with the hottest water possible regardless of what temp setting you use on the dishwasher. Look up dishwasher boost heater or dishwasher flow though heater if you don’t trust me.
>>22106612Just switch to a new sponge retardAlso you gotta be retarded to let it get this dirty
>>22106677you must not be a professional.we don't feel things any longer, anon.>>22106679>It's just more efficient if it starts with hot water before making it even hotter.you're probably right.>>22106687>Most modern dishwashers have a heat boost settingyou're probably right.mine's just old.
>>22106571Kinda this
>>22106612Store your sponge in sensei star or harsher germ killers.
>>22106634Why would you heat hot water? That's just a water heater there, sweaty. Also >>22106679 is correct: the element in the dishwasher most certainly heats the water, it is not just for drying. So everything you posted is wrong? Just quit now.
>>22106677>THIS! HANDS CAN NEVER BE CLEAN! YOU ARE ALL FILTHY GOYIM!... sigh...Better never go out to eat at a Michelin star rated restaurant ever again.... Sheesh
>>22106645Hero
>>22106702>So everything you posted is wrong?could be.guess we'll never know for sure.
>>22106727I like this guy
>>22106633>>22106635Modern dishwashers have sensors that detect the amount of debris in the water that's been cycled through the chamber. They do this to detect the level of cleaning needed. If you rinse off your plates before washing them, the machine switches to a lower level of cleaning. This is part of the government required energy savings rules.
>>22106696I put my sponges in the dishwasher to clean them. >>22106702Might not be what you're getting at but the dishwasher wants water hotter than what typically comes out of a water heater. It's still good to have a hot water line to the dishwasher since your water heater, especially if it's natural gas, heats water far more efficiently than the resistive coil in the dishwasher.
>>22106619Yeah I work as a dishwasher and we aren't allowed to wash things by hand unless we keep a large bowl of boiling hot water to dip the rinsed dishes into to sanitise them or soak them in chemical sanitiser. I've never understood why people love washing shit by hand, it's just so fucking tedious.
>>22106690just switch to a new dishwasher
>>22106734>more computer bullshit that will break on you
>>22106737In agreement with using hot water to feed the dishwasher, I'm pretty sure all the dishwasher manuals tell you to do that. The water heater vs hot water heater is a /diy/ thing, I'm just being a smartass.
>>22106546Agreed. Mine broke and I am not even going to fix it. Doing the dishes is relaxing. Throw on an audiobook and zone out. I can also guarantee the cleanliness of what I do myself - I have never in my life had a perfect dishwasher load. Maybe it is my fault? Plus it is cheaper not run it if that matters to anyone.
>>22106749pull it out and fill the space with a drink fridge. looks classy.
>>22106546>dishwashers are disgustingThat's not a very nice thing to say about my wife!
>>22106634>technology connections
yes, dishwashers are completely pointless unless you are cooking for multiple people every day and so must run it every few daysotherwise putting and arranging all the shit inside upside down so the water flows out is literally the same amount of effort just washing everything by hand when the dirt didn't dry yet>>22106612>using sponge made from spongeyou're like a little babysilicone sponges don't change at all, mine is over 5 years old now>the gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrms retarded american meme from the same people that don't allow toddlers to touch dirt, so they grow up with immune system unable to handle fucking peanutsI have never used a dish liquid unless the dishes are really oily and there are absolutely no side effects to that, the hot water cleans everything well on its own
>>22106571Yeah you gotta run it every so often with some white vinegar inside a bowl to clean it up>>22106884Fuck that shit I only hand wash stuff like wooden spoons and cutting boards, everything else goes in the dishwasher. Unless it specifically says not to put it in there, i put it in there. Im not standing around and washing dishes by hand for the fuck of it. Leaves more time to get other chores done
>>22106744I try to get the dumbest appliances I can find but the "green" energy saving rules end up forcing manufacturers to have some kind of logic board. A few months ago someone ran into a utility pole near my neighborhood, which caused the power to go haywire for a few seconds. The dishwasher ended up in a non-working state. Eventually found the key combination to do a hard reset of the computer but it wasn't anything obvious.
>>22106546Massive waste of water as well
>>22106881people from chicago are quite insufferable, aren't they, anon?
>>22106884>silicone spongeqrd?
>>22106749Hand washing grants a bonus to your microbiome.People are too clean now
>>22106924This. You shouldn't be avoiding harmless bacteria and sterilizing anything that doesn't require it.
>>22106910Not since the 90s.
>>22106546Dishwashers (at least the good ones with a Sanitizing Cycle Option) will heat the water inside to a level that would scald your hand if you tried to do it manually to kill all bacteria. Apart from >>22106612 it's recommended to replace your sponge biweekly if not weekly (and who is doing that) as they are perfect microbial breeding grounds or sanitize them by either putting them in dishwasher (which defeats the purpose of washing your dishes by hand anyway) or microwaving them:https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-clean-and-when-to-replace-sponges-11800265What personally disgusts me most is people that have divided kitchen sinks using a stopper to make a bath for dirty dishes and then washing them in the liquid that gets progressively more spoiled before rinsing them off as "clean" (I have family members that do this).
>>22106634https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-support-search-content?contentId=18253>The Sanitization wash cycle on a Dishwasher is certified to reduce 99.999% of bacteria on dishes. Sanitation is achieved using a high-temperature rinse that is designed to meet NSF 184 Residential standards. To meet NSF (National Sanitation Foundation) Residential requirements, the Dishwasher will run until the water temperature inside the Dishwasher reaches approximately 150 degrees Fahrenheit.Meanwhile water heaters at the tank are usually set to 120*F to conserve energy and still provide hot water that won't cause an immediate scald risk (and have thermal dropoff as the hot water snakes it's way to your faucet tap or shower head). It's actually becoming a problem with modern high-efficiency water appliances that reduce fluid flow in the plumbing leading to higher stagnancy and greater opportunity for germ survival so they are developing new water heater tech to counteract it:https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2026/07/nist-receives-new-patent-microbe-killing-water-heaterLegionella pneumophila thrives in temperatures between 20 and 45 degrees Celsius (68-113 degrees Fahrenheit). Typically, water heaters are set to 49 C (120 F) in residential settings and slightly warmer in high-occupancy facilities. These temperatures in the hot water tank will slow bacterial growth and may kill some Legionella pneumophila, but not completely. Once the water leaves the heater and enters the building’s piping network, water in the pipes cools to the ideal temperature for Legionella, allowing surviving bacteria to multiply.
>>22106645Based. I liked that one anon that would just stack a new newspaper page on top of the plate for each meal
>>22106770Oh great idea!
>>22106546I do this.
>>22106612>he still uses conventional sponges
>>22106770>pull it out and fill the space with a drink fridgeunless you live in a caravan keep the dishwasher and add a drink fridge
>>22106915
>>22107381That shit is the iPhone of sponges. The classic yellow sponge with the green rough side is an American classic that should never be replaced by bourgeois liberal mommy and daddy bullshit.
>>22106749Washing dishes takes like 5 mins. What the fuck is the point of listening to an audio book. You zoomers are so retarded you cant just sit and do a simple task without needing stimulation. Fucking KEK
>>22107381>>22107570>>22107632Just use a scrub brush you mongoloids.How many dish pigs have you ever seen using a sponge or scrub daddy? Big sponge and the big water heater hand burning conspiracy got you good. >inb4 skill issue
>>22107637Weak bait from someone who clearly lives alone with no wife and children producing a constant stream of dishes. Why does the concept of enjoying a story while performing a mindless task confuse and anger you? Why do you assume age and then use that as an arguement?
>>22106612I just throw it in the rice cooker once a week and it'll last me months.
>>22107640>scrub brush>dish pigsyeah let me put a huge brush near the sink instead of a small scrub like everyone elsethat'll show all everyone that I'm a real pig
>>22106546LMAO wut? A dishwasher is an autoclave. You will always get things cleaner in the way that matters in a dishwasher.
>>22106980>What personally disgusts me most is people that have divided kitchen sinks using a stopper to make a bath for dirty dishes and then washing them in the liquid that gets progressively more spoiled before rinsing them off as "clean"If I've understood you correctly, this is roughly the procedure for handwashing dishes in a commercial kitchen, except that there should be a third basin for sanitizing the dishes afterward.
