Why do Korean, Japanese, and Thai cuisine have upscale restaurants with upscale prices, but Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipino, etc mostly do not?
>>22112921The former have been establish as cuisine in the west for a lot longer than the latter
>>22112926I don't believe that's true
>>22112921Optics. Japanese chefs study their whole life and trade their soul for each dish they fold 9000 times. Viet lady just cooks you tasty soup she learned from her mom.
>>22112921The Thai government has a program called the "Global Thai Program" that trains chefs and offers financial assistance to restaurant owners abroad. Not even kidding. They do this because foreigners like Thai food and it makes people think more favorably about Thailand. Look it up.It's funny you should make this comment about Chinese because I noticed a lot of upscale "Chinese" places are often fusion restaurants that also serve sushi or Thai dishes.>>22112926Chinese has been around a lot longer.
>>22112921Kor, jap, thai, r capitalists so theyre good at milking money from goysChins, viets, r communists so theyre more sort of down to earth i guessBtw chins definitely have upscale rests, but their upscale food r shit like shark fins, sea cucumbers, birds nest, stuff that r either banned or frowned upon in the westNobody wants 2 eat flip food
There are plenty of upscale Chinese restaurants on the coasts. Tasty Moment and Chef Ma in Edison are fairly upscale. Tasty Moment is also packed with an online waiting list. NYC has some truly upscale places, but never tried them.https://tastymoment1711.com/
Based the Vietnamese are based.
>>22112921How is Thai upscale? Vietnamese with its French influence is more likely to have upscale establishments
>>22112921>why do first world asians have fancy restaurants while 3rd world asians dont??retard
I know of at least one Chinese place that Anthony Bourdain frequented that is definitely gourmet. But somehow their prices are still low.
>>22113053>>22113081I already mentioned this in the banh mi thread, so I risk sounding like a broken record. But in a larger city, you will definitely find gentrified Vietnamese restaurants in its restaurant row. Those can be pricey, but worth it.
>>22113091All the asian countries are "coming up". China obviously, but also Thailand and Vietnam. Even Indonesia and Malaysia (malaysia being almost like singapore, but with asians who practice Islam).
there are upscale Chinese places in socal.i know of at least one high end pho place in pasadena. OP is simply dumb. as usual. and i'm dumb for continuing to browse and reply.
>>22112921You haven't tried fancy pants Vietnamese restaurants yet? They got trendy, artsy, modern interior, like some hipster shit, their pho is expensive and made differently than what a mom and pop restaurant would do, and all their staff are young and pretty
>>22112921Restaurants are a labor camp for illegal immigration.
>>22112921>ChineseThey do. Especially when there's alot of Chinese ethnics around. You're also forgetting that "Chinese" isn't a monolith of cookery - the ritzy Chinese restaurant in my city does Hong-Kong style stuff. >VietnameseNot super palatable to the average normie, so pretty much niche appeal.>Pinoygarbage poverty food, full-stop. You can't put lipstick on a pig.
Because Western tourists fall for it
>>22112921Because Vietnamese food is largely mediocre peasant slop that doesn't really deserve or need high class treatment.There absolutely are high-class Chinese places though, what do you think peking duck is?
>>22112957>The Thai government has a program called the "Global Thai Program" that trains chefs and offers financial assistance to restaurant owners abroadYes, and that's why so many Thai restaurants abroad have the same exact menus and fucking suck. Thankfully, there are places not on the teat and serve good food.
>>22112957You mistake suburban middling with upscale. Not a single upscale Chinese place will serve sushi, you cloistered fucking mong.>>22112921Highest I've seen Vietnamese go is middling with extremely aspirational decor. Filipino can never be up-market. But Chinese? There are plenty of examples.>>22112967>Btw chins definitely have upscale rests, but their upscale food r shit like shark fins, sea cucumbers, birds nest, stuff that r either banned or frowned upon in the westExactly.>Nobody wants 2 eat flip foodTry lechon then try to say that again. You can't. But lechon only proves my point: Pinoy cuisine can never be upscale/up-market because it's basically just cookout food. It can be good, fantastic even, but the serving style doesn't translate to fine dining.>>22113081Not really. Or, at least, I've never seen any Vietnamese joint ever be truly upscale. Not once. Like Filipino food, it can be good but very little translates to fine dining.
>>22113296Yeah, that's exactly what I meant by >>22114084>middling with extremely aspirational decorNothing about it is upmarket to people who actually know what up-market is. You remind me of my ex's country cousin. We took him to a regular damn breakfast spot cafe place and he said "I ain't never been no place this fancy!"I guess when there are houseplants around, good natural light, flatware that aren't melamine and actual glassware rather than plastic, it comes across as "fancy" to people who don't know any better. I got into an argument with one of your kind a while back who thought Morton's, Ruth's Chris and Din Tai Fung were fancy. Chain restaurants. This guy actually thought chain restaurants were fancy. It's hilarious to me what people who don't even understand how poor they really are find fancy.
>>22112921Just flyoverlet thinges
Here's all of them in one upscale restaurant!
>>22113928If you are a food anthropologist majority of the ingredients that made Southeast Asian and East Asian food delicious like Peanut Sauce and Chili Peppers from the Spanish-Americas originally came from the Spanish-Philippines before spreading to Asia. Just cause Filipinos are poor now, that doesn't mean their cuisine sucks you poor culturelette and historylette.
>>22114171t.Josh Luna
Chinese has upscale restaurants in real places, you just live in a flyover shit hole so you've never seen one
>>22112921Mr chows.Fucking idiot.
>>22113940nigger what tourists, in real countries those restaurants are here, not there.
>>22112921>JapaneseUpscale places exist due to high costs of fish. >KoreanUpscale places can exist due to availability of high quality beef>ThaiI actually have not seen an upscale one in the US, they are all mid tier or cheap. >ChineseThese do exist, but usually are doing something like soup dumplings or whatever they can that America legally allows, not necessarily what a Chinese upscale in China would do. >VietnameseThey are known for soups (pho) and sandwiches (bahn mi), neither of which are very upscale. Best you can do is mid tier chain. >FilipinoNo actual fancy cuisine exists here to export. Sorry. It's all import fancy. It might exist someday...
>>22112921Most people don’t live in expensive cities. There are tons of expensive upscale Chinese restaurants lol. >>22113132You should know. Socal. Tons of upscale authentic Asian restaurants especially Chinese. Most anons don’t live anywhere nice.
>>22114860Where do you live? What is your income?
>>22114860You’re poor flyover loser lmao
I can find upscale, world class restaurants of everything you listed extremely easily within 30 mins travel time max. You live in a flyover shithole lmao, probably don't even live by the ocean.
>>22114171Filthipino detected
>>22115045This. The state of /ck/. This thread really revealed a lot about /ck/.
>>22115053>Says Facts>Gets Called NamesLol.
I find it funny how everubody shits on Filipino cuisine when it comes to cuisines in Asia, but half of the ingredients that makes other Asian cuisines delicious like the Chili Peppers in Chinese Chao Fan or the Peanut Sauce is Thai Sattay or the Chocolate in Taiwanese Milk tea, that all originally came from the Spanish-Americas, all had to pass through the Spanish-Philippines, before being spread to Asia, and that recipes containing Peanut Sauce, Chili Peppers, and Chocolate, are all older in the Philippines than in the other Asian countries they like but they spit on the Philippine roots but worship the mere Asian branches.Such is the brain capacity of /ck/.
Chinks have 0 class. You can easily pick out a chinese from other asians because they all wear sweat pants with designer bags, they're just a tacky people with 0 self awareness.It's why their upscale restaurants are just "rare or cruel foods", because they can't do subtlety, they can only to ostentatious.
There is practically no difference between a /pol/tard and a /ck/sucker.
>>22114181I am proud to be mistakenly associated with the Luna family. Who's patriarchs Juan Luna and Andres Luna was the First Asian to win Gold in a Western Painting Contest AKA the Paris World Expo and Andres Luna was a General in the Philippine Revolution.This one of Juan Luna's Masterpieces La Battalia de Lepanto, which graces the Spain's Senate Building. The King of Spain was so impressed with Juan Luna, he asked that he paint for the Spanish Senate.
His other painting El Pacto de Sangre depicting Rajah Sikatuna and Miguel Lopez de Legaspi is in the Presidential Palace of the Philippines.
Luna pieces are master works decorating the highest offices of the Spanish Senate and Philippine Presidential Palace. Whats even more juicy as a lore is his work "Parisian Life" wherein it won Silver Medal in the World's Fair in the Saint Louis Exposition in the United States. He spent some time in Paris, France; painting his paintings in anticipation of the anniversary of the 1789 French Revolution which was inspired by the American Revolution, only for the 1898 Philippine Revolution based off the American and French Revolutions become a complete betrayal by America and France of their own ideals, as the Treaty of Paris 1898 and Philippine-American War cemented the destruction by France and America of the Philippine Republic founded in honor of the French and Americans. Juan Luna felt this, that's why the French Lady which posed as if she looks like the Philippine Archipelago looks as if she was being hanged by a rope if you look at it closely.The Luna Lore is a Gateway Drug to far more deeper things.
Dont you just love how a descendant of the Lunas who's ancestors painted won the presitgious awards to paint for the Spanish Royal Senate, American World Expo, Paris Fair, and Philippine Presidential Palace, gets beaten and spat at, by 4Channers who use his comics as a joke meme?
>>22115240>Thai SattayNot Thai, retard.>Chocolate in Taiwanese Milk teaNo chocolate in that, retard.Also, I'm pretty sure peanut etc got to the rest of Asia via Portugal, not Spain. Same reason Africa is so heavy on peanut, peppers and chocolate: heavy Portuguese influence. Spain has practically no influence in Africa except for Western/Spanish Sahara which is a literal desert
>>22112926korean and thai are relatively recent
>>22115356Something that people don't often know is that equatorial Guinea is a Spanish speaking country
