Could you survive on just spinach, fish and grog?
>>22122662Enjoy your kidney stones and mercury poisoning
I have a rare disorder and spinach could kill me but I still eat it cuz I love it but not in large quantities, only about 25lbs a year. So no. If could rotate other greens in, then yes since that's pretty much my diet already.
Where is it documented that Popeye also ate fish and grog? If you’re talking about the diet of a sailor it would be shipsbiscuit (hard tack), salt pork, and grog, plus various things they might make with their narrow rotation of ingredients like lobscouse, burgoo, plum duff, etc
>>22122702Are you really going to pretend that sailors didn't have access to fish?
Popeyes in my hood mostly chicken
>>22122703Most sailors couldn't swim either, anon. While of course it's possible sailors supplemented their diet with fish or locally caught game whenever they were stopped somewhere, there wasn't much time for idle fishing in the day-to-day running of a ship of sail, nor was it common:>"As our fare was novel and so different from shore living, it was some time before I could get fully reconciled to it: it was composed of hard sea biscuit, fresh beef while in port, but salt pork and salt beef at sea, pea soup and burgoo.">When Daniel Goodall was a marine in 1805, his ship, HMS Flora, was with the North Sea fleet watching the Dutch coast, which was tedious work except when they returned to Yarmouth for supplies. ‘When we returned from a provisioning trip...Every seaman had a pound of bread and a gallon of beer a day. Each week he was also given 4 pounds of salt beef, 2 pounds of salt pork, 2 pints of dried pease, 1½ pints of oatmeal, 6 ounces of sugar, 6 ounces of butter and 12 ounces of cheese.">Fish were not caught and eaten as much as might be expected, which Dr Trotter regretted: ‘Sir Edward Pellew encourages his squadron off Rochefort to employ every method for catching fish, which has much retarded the appearance of scurvy in his own ship, and others. What a pity that this excellent practice is not general in the fleet, when there is nothing else for employment."This is from a book called "Jack Tar: Life in Nelson's Navy" which is fucking excellent if you are interested in the lives of sailors in general.
To add on, the open ocean isn’t as easy fishing as you would think.
>>22122705Interesting, I can't say much else except that I'm a bit surprised.
>>22122709I remember reading sailors did fish from time to time but it wasnt a daily ocurrence, more like if they saw a big shoal of fish, they would caught a lot, salt it and keep going to save money on food once they arrived at port, many military and trading vessel sailors were fishermen before being drafted or hired so many of them knew the trade already.
>>22122709If you want to Popeyemax, you absolutely would not survive, scurvy being the biggest issue. It was either a problem, or inadvertently staved off with fresh meat/vegetables (which does contain some vitamin C). Sailors had access to lime juice later on but the preservation method destroyed the vitamin C:>Before the year 1860 great reliance was placed upon juice prepared from the Mediterranean lemon as an antiscorbutic. >The antiscorbutic power was ascribed to the citric acid contained in the juice, and in many cases the method of preservation destroyed all the vitamin C, so that the juice, although full of citric acid, was useless as an antiscorbutic.>These facts were unknown in 1860 and were not discovered by experience, because scurvy had by that time become a rare disease in the Navy. Voyages had become much shorter and fresh food was provided regularly.Source: "The Prevention of Scurvy in the Navy" (1926)
>>22122703>unironically thinks sailors ate spinach and fish You realize Popeye is a children’s cartoon right?
>>22123419Yeah but it's based on real life. The creator of Popeye didn't just invent sailors out of thin air.
>>22123437Popeye cucked Ham Gravy. It was Ham's comic strip for a decade then Popeye came along, stole his girlfriend Olive Oyl and barely anybody remembers Ham at all. He's less well known that Olive's brother, Castor.
>>22122722Spinach has vitamin C
>>22123450canned spinach doesn't. heat destroys vitamin c.
>>22123512Then eat fresh spinach
>>22123450>>22123529how long would that last on a ship before the invention of refrigeration?...
>>22123534desu I keep fresh spinach in the average temp fridge and it usually lasts about three weeks
>>22123543wtf I didn't type desu I typed desu
>>22123534I live in a house with a refrigerator
>>22123437Did I say that sailors were invented, or the idea of their eating spinach?
>>22123419What does being a children's cartoon have to do with anything?
>>22124128That's the implication you made, yes.>>22123419
>>22122705>1 pound of bread and one gallon of beer daily + 4 pounds of salt beef, 2 pounds of salt pork, 2 pints of dried pease, 1½ pints of oatmeal, 6 ounces of sugar, 6 ounces of butter and 12 ounces of cheese weekly."let me guess, you "need" more
>>22124314How is your reading comprehension so poor? Popeye is a children’s cartoon, as opposed to an accurate representation of sailors. It’s like how trains exist but they don’t talk as they might in children’s cartoons. Sailors exist but they don’t eat fish and spinach
>>22122662Stop using generative AI.
>>22122673>mercury poisoninghe doesn't know....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlORfF81ZHM>Oh, baby give me the /DeenZ/
>>22126736>Popeye is a children’s cartoon, as opposed to an accurate representation of sailorsThese aren't mutually exclusive
>>22122662I’d rather get gang raped than eat canned spinach. Truly vile stuff.
>>22122698>if i eat spinach...i could heckin die....!>i still eat it anyways fucking melodramatic bitch
>>22126766As a kid I wanted to eat canned spinach after watching popeye on tv, I opened the can and the smell made me gag, and it was visually off putting, it looked like a lump of green shit. Disgusting slop.
>>22126736Thomas is a pretty good representation of how trains and train yards operate.
>>22126776I don’t know what it is about the canning process that makes green vegetables so disgusting. Try a can of anything with broccoli in it and it’s got that same taste and smell to it.
>>22126771No. It's because my condition, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophic_antiphospholipid_syndrome requires relatively stable amounts of vitamin k to keep from developing multiple organ failure. So long as I take my blood thinners and eat roughly the same amounts of greens/vitamin k over a few days, I'm good. I'm actually the world record holder of surviving with this shit. The CAPS registry only follows patients for six years because most people with this diagnosis die within that time. I'll have lived with this eighteen years next month. And it's specifically because I weigh every green I eat, exercise daily and manage stable vitamin k amounts in my diet. Spinach is high in vitamin k so while I eat it, any change to the amount I consume could result in either severe bleeding risk or multiple organ failure. To maintain stable k levels, I rotate it or any other high vit k green into my diet every three days. That day was yesterday (spinach and cheese curry fry with roti and various sides). Today, I had chingensai as a topping to bibimbap which is a relatively low k green. Tomorrow will be wild broccoli, which is medium k, that I'll have for lunch with pasta.Here's the first time I mentioned it here: https://warosu.org/ck/thread/4447117#p4447135And here's the other times, if you wanna read up on it: https://warosu.org/ck/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Antiphospholipid>>22126831>>22126776Canned corn, beets, tomatoes and beans are all pretty okay, at least.
>>22126833What would happen if you drank a twelve pack of beer?
>>22126837Y'know, I'm not sure. Alcohol isn't verboten but I know it affects blood thinning. But I've actually got an appointment with my haematologist and anticoagulation on Thursday so if the thread is still up and I remember to ask, I'll get back to you then.
>>22126842just go buy some beer right now and drink it
>>22126845Yeah, what if beer activated his condition and gave him super powers?
>>22126750>>22126822In the case of Popeye it is not an accurate representation of sailors’ diets, at least.
>>22126845Bitch, I'm a middle aged man on a Tuesday night waiting for my wife to get done in the shower so I can scrub my cock, balls and asshole before bed. I ain't going nowhere.
>>22126876why are boomers so lazy?
>>22126914https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY
Popeye has AIDS
>>22125704Not much more, but yes.
>>22122662you need potatoes
>>22126853Sailors in Popeye's time would have access to canned vegetables
>>22122705Thanks for posting that, it's very interesting. Unfortunately a lot of people generally don't understand what goes into manning and provisioning a ship, specifically with the resources needed to preserve fish for consumption (a fuckton of salt) or the logistics challenge of cooking on a boat in the middle of nowhere
>>22127090I don't even understand how those big wooden hulks were able to sail around the world let alone what it took to provision one.
>>22122662is the spinach canned?
