Fat Upper Bean Area editionThis thread is for discussing fat beans and juicy coffee slurping techniques.If you're new and confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzif you're old and confused, what does your wife's coffee taste like?previous: >>22130011
>>22141803Lookin like a big ole' pair of lips.
>>22141803
>>22141817humans see coffee beans in everything. coffeedoilia
>>22141803which is the most sexual bean
>>22141803Everything reminds me of her.
>>22141997why do soilennials keep saying this?
>>22142011they can only regurgitate what others say instead forming thoughts
>>22141803finally a good OP
Sneaky little 10pm espresso tonic :)
>>22141803I should call her...
>>22142289how decadent...
why didnt science experiment retard update us with the taste of his stupid coffee after subjecting us to several pictures of the process?
>>22142337to shreds you say
>>22142357>>22141817>BLOOM>OUT>MY>SIGMOID>VOLVULUST
>>22142357>no goatse portafilter
>>22142379
>>22142383gotta put the convex in there
>>22142384I have the technology but the opportunity is passed. next time I will consider perspective
>>22142357>>22142383
>>22142463you thought POMA was a joke?
this is a good cookie for a coofie
>>22142509nomake some ginger snap cookies
>>22142337bro cooked too hard
after dinner moka
Which way, white man
>>22142693rightt. aryan
>>22142699Post hand w/ cuppa
>>22142701i'll think about it
>>22142702get a manicure first
Question for DF64 [Gen 2] owners:What grind setting ranges do you use for espresso and pour over?What I’m seeing online is people tend to use ~45-60 for pour over and ~5-15 for espresso. I ask since the dial on the machine has pourover as “50-90” and espresso as “0-30”
>>22142011Goycattle generation that picks up memes and runs them deep into the ground.
>>22141803I should call her.
Got an aeropress, a grinder and ordered some beans from a local roastery. Interested to see what all this coffee business is about.
>>22142763Depends on the beans, equipment, and skillIf any of the three are lacking you get something mediocre
>>22142768>Depends on the beans, equipment, and skillI think my equipment will be good enough. That roastery has overwhelmingly positive reviews as well so I'm sure it'll be grand. I'll let you lads know how it goes when they arrive
Is there any point in making coldbrew from fancy coffee? I tried making some from my nice beans and it tasted like the one made from my semi-nice ground coffee
>>22142803depends on what you think fancy coffee isalso depends on what you think cold brew is
>>22142803Use a hyperchiller.
>>22142770I can kinda guarantee you that your skill will be lacking at first. There’s a bit of a learning curve… well maybe not for aeropress but you’ll need to know how to get your grind dialed in. What grinder do you have?
>>22142803Not really. Cold brew == less coffee flavor is drawn out of the beans. You miss the bitter flavors that make a bad coffee taste bad but you also miss the good flavors in expensive coffee. Cold brew is for the bulk bags of blends you find at Costco, etc.
>>22142871>What grinder do you have?I didn't wanna spend too much on one so I got a Timemore C3 ESP. I didn't see anyone being particularly negative about it and it seemed like it had decent build quality for the price
>>22142874Severely overpaid for an underperformer.
>>22142873thx king
>>22142885Unfortunate. Guess I'll return it. Should've asked here first. What would you recommend instead that's still around the 80 euro range?
>>22142891Oh you're in europe and have to pay fucked up prices for bad chinese goods. Just keep it for a while and gift it off once you upgrade. You're probably not going to be able to find a kingrinder k6 for around 99.
>>22142898>You're probably not going to be able to find a kingrinder k6 for around 99.I tried and couldn't, sadly.
>>22142741how many microns is thar
Is Aliexpress not available in the EU? I know the UK doesn't have a problem with it.
ey yo kings, whats a good hand grinder for around 200 deutchmark?
>>22142960Kinu M47 Phoenix. EU made.
>>22142960zp6 or k-ultra are popular options. or you could save a $60 and get a phantox pro. is this your first grinder or are you upgrading?
here's the old grinder chart
what is the best material to drink coffee from? i was thinking about getting some real marble cups, but marble is a porous material :/
>>22143019Crystal, glass, porcelain.>some real marble cupsYou'd probably like some of the mk ceramics designs.https://www.mk-ceramics.com/en-usOrigami vintage white also looks kind of marble-esque.https://www.slowpoursupply.co/collections/new/products/origami-flare-coffee-mug
>>22143019assymetrical cup from nippon>Drinking from the thicker rim of the cup gives more body and texture.>Drinking from the thin rim allows the coffee to flow to the back of the tongue, where the flavors and acidity can be felt more.>The different thicknesses allow the coffee to reach different parts of the tongue.>As a result, you can experience a variety of drinking sensations that are different from those of coffee in other cups.
>>22143040>Cup, Japan
>>22143053:O
>>22143019glass
>>22142763have fun
>>22143061I shall
>>22142985whats the downside in phantox pro?
>>22143135i think this review does a good job of explaining why it's a really good budget grinder, but with some drawbacks compared to higher end grinders.https://coffeechronicler.com/mavo-phantox-pro-review/the noted drawbacks were that while it's a balanced cup, it can be too balanced, giving you less division between flavor notes and less acidity. very low fines, and more tailored to pour overs than espresso, so if you want something that does both very well, then probably look elsewhere.
>>22143040if i make $25 this week I am going to buy this cup
>>22143035some of these cups do be lookin good tho fr.
>>22143191Yeah I'm thinking about buying myself a mystery box for christmas.https://www.mk-ceramics.com/en-us/collections/mk-studio-mystery-box
feeling anxious. think I'll settle down with a cup of coffee.
robusta and french toast:)
>>22143433>feeling anxious>gonna spike my cortisol
>>22143523you better have added cinnamon to that batter
first coffee after one day hiatus
no coffee today. tea
>>22142509kringla. Thank god I can never find it.
>>22143615had that yesterdaywill probably have some tomorrow
>>22143191near autistic craft makes me jealousfloriangadsby, dashner designs, Baumgartner Restoration
Is this truly the best a man can get
>>22143586the best way out is through
getting high on my own supply rn
Eschew the demon bean, Anons.Tea is the way.
>>22143903tsmt
>>22143816ANON NO!
>>22143903
>>22143950blessed
>>22143612
>>22142803The only specific flavour that comes through in Cold Brew is "burnt". Everything else, unless you're an autistic hypertaster, will taste similar.This means that the best coffee to make cold brew with is the cheapest per weight medium roast, and keep an eye out for pre-ground going on special at a lower price than beans.
new cold brew science experiments soon
>>22144039what beans
I tried Thai coffee today. It was delicious
>>22142463Cute Yuzuko I love her very much
>>22144085from which animal was it shitted out from?
>>22144085i enjoy it. it's very easy to make, too.
>>22144436>thai coffee>viet phin
>>22144440feel free to try and convince me the finished product is any different, or that phins are not used anywhere in thailand
>>22144451>Vietnamese_coffees_(4381041370).jpg
>>22144453>first result off googlelmaoi read that too. which is why i know theyre the same thing and it can be done with a phin instead of a soiled thai diaper
a sock and a basket will brew very different coffee
>>22144461>Cà phê vợt (cà phê vợt; also known as net-filter coffee) is a traditional method of brewing coffee in southern Vietnam, associated with cafes in alleys and market-adjacent stalls in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon).>Net-filter coffee differs from Vietnamese drip coffee made with a metal phin, which is brewed per cup rather than held in a serving pot.I'm not sure why you think cloth and metal filtered coffees behave the same.
jsydkwytaamo
>>22144464do you think whatever viet/lao/korean owned "thai" place anon got his "thai coffee" from was using a sock? think very carefully before you answer.
>>22144478You know Thailand produces coffee right? Anon could have made coffee any which way he wants with Thai beans. Nothing was posted to suggest he went to a shop.
>>22144485retard
>>22143002I'm looking for grinder recs. I use a 1L french press and need ~55-60g of ground coffee. I think I'd prefer a manual grinder because they seem cheaper and don't really have the space for an electric grinder. I saw there was a 60g capacity manual grinder on amazon (ceving), but is that a piece of shit?For context, I don't have any grinder so I'm assuming anything would be a step up from pre-ground
>>22144487https://www.lannacoffeeco.com/products/green-coffee-beans-washed-process>Origin: Doi Inthanon, Chiang Mai Province, Thailand (multi-village lot including Akad Noi)>Altitude: 1,600+ masl>Process: Washed>Producers: Smallholder families (avg. 1–2 acres)>Soil: Clay-loam>Harvest: December – March
>>22144488>60g capacity manual grinder on amazon (ceving), but is that a piece of shitYes. Just buy the cheapest baratza encore you can find. Its not going to matter for french press.
I'm moving from Seattle to NYC and thinking about what to do with my pleb setup (Breville Bambino + Breville smart grinder pro). I could take it, but I could also sell them and buy something new. I'm happy with the Bambino but would love a cool grinder like a niche zero. Or what's something less expensive than that that I can trust?
>>22144537SGP is a horrible grinder. Bambino is fine. What kind of drinks are you making? Single origins without milk? DF64 with better burrs/Mazzer Philos/Zerno Z1. Blends in a latte? Stock DF64 or Niche Zero could be perfect.
>>22144550Mostly espresso shots, sometimes lattes for my girl or breakfast if I'm not in a rush. I'm curious, why do you recommend the Z1 for espresso but not lattes? I guess just because it's better and in a latte i won't notice?I gotta say I probably have a pleb palate. I don't go to fancy on beans, at least so far
>>22144537grim
>>22144556If I was spending $1400 on a grinder, I wouldn't be running $60 blendy mazzer 33m burrs in it. I'd be putting in $200 SSP HUs. Its just a big ask when you could run HUs in a cheaper DF64 and get 95% of the way there for <half. But if you've got the money go for it. I almost hopped on the first preorder back when we didn't know if it was vaporware or not.>espresso shots, sometimes lattes for my girl or breakfast if I'm not in a rushNow ssp cast v3 could be ideal for you. But again df64s are cheap and spin the same burrs.
>>22144570I kind of don't want the hassle of changing the burrs etc. DF64 seems ok but with some annoyances like splatter and the cup moving. I might buy dat dere niche zero
>>22144627Regardless you're going to have to do s o m e maintenance eventually. 6 screws and you've got a completely "new" cleaned grinder. That being said I've got a Wug2 83a that I haven't bothered buying any other burrs for and don't clean that often.>niche zeroPeople really fucking like the workflow. Burrs are what they are, 63mm blendy cone espresso burrs. Not sure what the tariff situation is with them now though. You could try the 83mm chiniche.https://espressooutlet.com/products/moshi-c83-conical-burr-grinder
There isn't an alcohol thread anymore is there? I'm trying to figure out if I can make a milk wash cocktail with a chemex filter or some shit like that.
I have some starbux beans that expired 2 years ago in the package never opened. Would they be okay for cold brew or are they garbage?
>>22144764might as well cold brew and see. no point in wasting them, unless you're just full of spite and throwing them in the trash would bring you great joy.
someone took my cold brew out of the fridge and left it on the counter
>>22145036sorry bro i was in a hurry
>>22145036>someonebut, anon... you live alone.
>>22145058OH N-
had cold coffee from 2 days ago today
>>22143019I only drink out of a thermos.
>>22145250How was it?
just made coffeelove coffeelove MY coffee:)
i rarely drink coffee at homei have a small (under one liter wtf) drip maker and a french press somewhere, plus an electric grinder that i've never usedbut i just use instant nescafé brasero, no sugar or milkat work, we have a coffee machine that uses whole beans and milk powder - i go for café au lait, so that i can sip throughout the whole day without my tummy-tum going awry
>>22145844ok
>>22145899mhmperhaps it would interest you to know the brand of beans we use at work is called "pelican rouge" and the coffee machine has a coarseness of "ok would be my reply to most posts in this thread if i wasnt an arse"
>>22145906i see
>>22145914you do indeed
>>22145653good enough
>>22145036now it's lukewarm brew
>>22145844and how does coffee make you feel?
>>22145036sorry brot. poltergeist
>>22146234unpleasantly warm unless it's ice coffeethe taste is comfy but that's about it, caffeine doesnt affect me muchi dont like energy drinks
>>22142693i was a little disappointed when i discovered trung nguyen uses artificial coffee flavoring on its beans after hearing how good they were supposed to be.
>>22141817The irony of having a bowel obstruction symptom named coffee.>>22144488The only good manual grinder on the market that holds 60g of coffee is the Lido OG. All other good manual grinders max out around 25g-35g so you're going to be grinding in two doses at least. That ceving grinder is a white label piece of shit. If you're dead set on a cheap manual just get one of the cheaper Timemore or 1zpresso grinders like the C3 or Q which are good enough for all around usage. Personally I think the Eureka Peppe is perfect for your use case. It's only $10 more than the Encore but the internals are light commercial spec. The brew burrs perform very well for non espresso usage and the espresso burrs are great for traditional shots.>>22144627A DF54 would compliment a bambino well. The stock 54mm and 64mm burrs perform more or less the same, or at least very very similarly. So there's no real point it spending more on a DF64 if you're just going to keep the stock burrs in it. Also using the stock burrs would probably be a better choice for your use case as the blendiness will help cover up off flavors that are usually present in commodity beans.
i have a chemex but i want to expand into a new dripper. should i get a v60 for a faster extraction but basically the same cone style, or an origami for the different design and its supposed anti-channeling properties
>>22146434flip a coinsippin a natty kenyan (:dont forget to enjoy life, frens
>>22146434get a deep27
i had to use tap water and this cup literally tastes like literal shit
>>22146470this is weird enough that i just might
>plastic
we don't do that here
>>22146484retard
>>22146478its fantastic>brew it wrong?decent brew>brew it right?great brew
>>22146503it's not plastic?
>>22146520i've heard lithium can help people like you
>>22146478The Deep27 and Funnex are goated microdosers. And they're at the opposite ends of the brewer spectrum so it makes sense to get both.
>>22146687what is a microdoser?
>>22146700Brewers that excel at small doses. The Funnex and Deep27 sweet spot is around 6-12g doses for lighter roasts. Darker roasts can work well with standard 15-20g doses and very coarse grinds using the osmotic flow technique.
>>22146713how is it designed to do that? smaller brewing vessel?
>>22146717The steeper angle gives you an equivalent bed depth at smaller doses. Like an 8g dose will give you almost 2" of bed depth.
>>22146728why have any funnel at all? use a straight tube with a switch at the bottom
>>22146732Many ways to skin the cat. The Pulsar mini and Z1 are great for 10g doses. The Sworks 32mm step down baskets can be jerry rigged into an OXO rapid brewer. But 30 degree conicals are just simple and work well. You can use the dedicated filters or just fold a standard 60 degree filter in half.
>>22146739flint michigin water
>>22146743peak meal
i only replace the grounds in my cold brew jar once a week. anyone else do this?
>>22146736are you making coffee in an airport diaper changing station?
>>22146732>why have any funnel at all?need space to bloomalso agitation is important
>>22146739Parramatta water
>>22146687>Funnexwhat is the difference between this and the Chemex proper and what puts it on the opposite end of the spectrum from the deep 27? its design is slightly different from the base chemex but not even the official website says why they chose this design, how it affects the coffee in the cup, or how it's different from the chemex.
>>22142383>>22142357i feel old
>>22147137
'ove me 'rundi
i made $80. gonna buy some coffee.
>>22147545overtime at the call center?
>>22147584if only
is it a red flag if the roaster only offers washed
he's selling his body for caffein
>>22144464Yeah and probably what he actually had was normal coffee with condensed milk in it.
>>22147781>normal coffeeWhat, like drip?
how do i know if i am agitating too much
she'll let you know
chocolate covered orange slice candy
did you all forget that this is the coffee general?
do you have an attractive server? what do i think about beaker-style servers?
>>22147932Of course.
>>22147886every word uttered here is coffee, though the way coffee is spoken may seem strange to outsiders.
>>22147959i can't decide on a style of server and then i think i can just put the dripper over a mug so i never end up pulling the trigger. but they all look so nice.
>>22147886Indeed.
>>22147932I have one and use it everyday. The tea version is absolute shit. >>22147959That looks cool, I may pick one next time I m in Japan.
>>22148058i think this might look pretty cool with the deep 27 I'm about to get, I'll look into it
>v60 NEO
any advice for brewing ethiopians? i think this is a tricky bean...
>>22148282dont do cannibalism
>>22148295now listen, you..
>>22148282whats the problem
>>22148336Getting the proper visas.
>>22148118>Crab-eating_MacaqueSir, that monkey is clearly eating watermelon.
>>22148336it seems to be much more sensitive to agitation than any of my other beans and is becoming muddy and stalling. so i did a coarser grind and did as little agitation as possible but it's not really giving me a good flavor.I'm doing april method. should i reduce the number of pours or do just one long pour so it's got more immersion?
>>22148365i would probably just use more water to try to extract a little more flavora drip assist tool like the melodrip (or even just pouring over an overturned spoon) can help reduce agitation and let you grind finerime single pours work best with finer grinds; in your situation it would probably just reduce the extraction further and make the cup even more boring
>>22148375okay thanks I'll do some "experiments"
>>22148365unironically sounds like a job for the switch
ok i'm back from the hospital. new cold brew experiment time
these results are strange. let's see how it tastes
this guy doesn't learn
>>22148447lol wtf
>>22148386i kind of want a switch, i just dont like how the actual lever and the plastic ring looks but i really should get one for the utility.>>22148447>results>implyingevery update just introduces new questions and gives no answers
>>22148447dont breathe this
uhhhh anyway im having some 'rundi moka
>>22148503but it's midnight
>>22148529sir this is coffee time generalwhere its always time for coffee
gonna take a nap and then a deep 27 when i wake up
>>22148795please keep me updated
Is 100% arabica for espresso blends a hipster mistake? Maybe adding a little robusta was always right.
>>22149042yes
>>22148969ok im having it
>>22141803Everyone go watch "Kill Bean" on YouTube if you haven't. It's legitimately one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.
>>22149124and?
>>22142803>>22142810>>22142864how to make the best autistic cold brew?I just use a big glass bottle and soak ground coffee in it overnight. How can I break the 80% threshold on the 80/20 rule for cold brew?
>>22149148bloom it first
i have chocolate-notes fatigue
>>22149141juicy
>>22149169very nice.
>>22149156i see an ethiopian in your future
>>22149207i actually split it, because i figured i should eat some food to settle my stomach and then drink the other half lateri praise the wisdom of my past self right now
>>22147130The opening at the bottom of the Funnex is only about 3/4" diameter, much smaller than the opening in the 3 cup Chemex so much less of the filter pokes out, making it slower and almost zero bypass. Whereas the Deep27 is maximum bypass and maximum speed. With Sibarist fast papers it's arguably the fastest brewer on the market. It's so fast that I've been able to get sub 2 minute brew times with a single pour at espresso grind sizes.
>>22149240>I've been able to get sub 2 minute brew times with a single pour at espresso grind sizesMost of that must have been bypass and channeling, yes? Can't imagine an espresso grind pourover being very good.
>>22149248>Can't imagine an espresso grind pourover being very good.its ok with a deep27i was dialing in espresso and didnt want to throw out what i ground so i just put it in a jar for laterthen the next day i wanted a pour over and didnt feel like grinding so i used some.not bad.it would never work in a v60 thoughi think the high bypass helps it work with a huge range of grind sizes
>>22149259I usually throw my jarred grounds into some kind of immersion brew. Glad it worked out for you.
>>22149248I personally enjoy it. With lighter roasts it gives a lot of sweetness with that heavy, slightly muddy body of hot chocolate. With darker roasts it gives a heavy bitterness but the cup is still enjoyable in a way. It's a nice contrast from the light and delicate apple juice style cups that everyone seems to be doing nowadays.
>>22149274thanks :)
Might brew my third cup. It's already evening...
It's 0748 and I'm just starting my workday in the home office. I program my coffee machine to start brewing at 6:10am every morning so when I wake up the house smells of coffee already. What a nice moment of joy before the shit hits the fan.
>>22149152What does blooming mean in the context of cold brew?
The Lelit Anna I bought was all fucked up and I had to RMA it, so I guess I should've listened to /ctg/.That said, the Eureka I bought just arrived and it's quite nice, so I guess I shouldn't listen to /ctg/.What a dilemma...
>>22149447>0748>6:10amlarping or retarded
>>22149503>Eureka
>>22149529retarded actually. my coffee machine brews at 0610 because most days I leave the house around 0640 but WFH days I have more time to kill before I start work. and yes I got my time formats mixed up because I wasn't paying attention
>>22149447>automatic coffee
>>22149458bloom it first with hot water then cold brew it.
>>22149138Killer Bean? Old news. Guy just put out a game on steam though.>>22149148Make good coffee, chill it down without too much oxidation skunking everything up. Brewing overnight is always going to suck.
>>22149530Sorry, I'm not listening.
>>22149503>I should've listened to /ctg/Fuck Lelit. Tried to tell ya. How nice can a sheet metal box be anon with shitty burrs be anon?
>>22149563>How nice can a sheet metal box be anon with shitty burrs be anon?just let him have this one, he might rope if we convince him to return it.
>>22141803holy BEAN...
>>22149551IT MAKES A NICE BREW
this eth has a weird bitter citrus note that i think they tried to call "limoncello" but to me it tastes like yuzu or kumquat peel...the probing of the ethiopian continues...
>>22149587you brewed it too hot
>>22149587you didn't bloom it enough
Got the stepdown basket to pull a single stream today. Never happened before. Delicious little iced maple latte.>>22149583We don't want that shit over here either.
>>22149644anime website
Just got some Mocaccino from some machine. Disgustingly bitter, I can't taste anything. Even with extra sugar as an option. I had to put like three sugar packets. I wanted four but there weren't any left.And since caffeine doesn't work on me, the taste is all I get.
coffee website
>>22149686goffee thread
>>22149692>/gtg/
>>22149668>Sugar
You think you're soo healthy with your little maple drink, huh?
I can't ever seem to get the french press water to coffee ratio right. What do you guys use?
>>22149721>What do you guys use?a scale
>>22149603>>22149608these are perhaps true but it's not like the coffee itself is bitter, it's just this citrus note tastes like bitter citrus, like a yuzu, as opposed to sweet citrus like a tangerine
>>22149552what does blooming mean reeee
>>22149559>killer beanhell yeah bro>vidya on steamfuck yeah alsohappy for that guy, loved that fucking movie, first watched it during the Korone virus lock-downs and had a bunch of lels
>>22149718>mapleyou seem confused..
>>22149713"Bitter coffee" is not a real taste, it's just bitterness without anything to distinguish it.
>>22149735not my major
>>22149731"blooming" refers to pouring just a little hot (but not boiling) on the ground beans before brewing. it does science stuff to make coffee taste more better. put your grounds in a heatproof glass thingamajig and pour just enough hot water on them so theyre all wet but not submerged, like you're watering a plant. let it sit for like 30 to 45 seconds. then take that and proceed with the cold brew process as normal.this is opposed to the normal method where people just grind coffee and put it straight into cold water with no bloom. if you bloom it first it can give it a better body and a little more sweetness, i have found.
>>22141803lads I just drank some Amish blend of chocolate raspberry coffee and it was pretty good. The Amish don't grow the coffee they just mix it, and as stated previously it was pretty good.
>>22149733I watched it maybe like 2011? Came back to my college house with a half oz and my carri-bean roommate had it on his laptop.
>>22149747thanks anon
>>22149503>EurekaWhich one?
>>22149786well considering he bought an anna...
>>22149735I'm old, I can't help it.
>>22149754How do they roast it? Gas?
>>22149742
>>22149148>How can I break the 80% threshold on the 80/20 rule for cold brew?Keurig Cups have to use 2 grind types to modulate the flow through of the water, part fine, part not fine. Bloom it doing the same bimodal grind(s), but bracketing your cold brew grind settings slightly biasing the coarser end. Look up the ratios on the K-Cups (which escapes me rn) and do something similar-ish. Also bloom at whatever the proper temperature is for the beans' roast. Darks have to be far lower, and little agitation; stir the fuck out of the mediums and lights blooming those little shits. Good luck.
What in the fuck is he talking about?
>>22149953>Darks have to be far lowerPlease, no racism sir.
>>22149921I think it might be one of those things they sell but aren't allowed to consume themselves
>>22150020How do they know it's any good without tasting it? How would they troubleshoot any issues in flavour without tasting it? You should ask and get back to us.
>>22150020>but aren't allowed to consume themselveswhy? they aren't mormons
just ate like 15 crab rangoons so you know i be needing an little 11pm coffee to warsh them down
