>>22145351
I never bought this stuff because i could never understand it. why would a vegan want processed food to look like meat. It’s like it’s for pretend vegans or people choosing trendy diets and still crave meat. I like veggie burgers and I’m not a vegetarian. I genuinely like them, why have weird synthetic meat texture when I could have a delicious bean burger with spinach and carrots.

>>22145351
are you really telling me to make a pate and teriyaki sauce and tomato sauce sandwich

>>22145368
Vegan pate. If not that then you're on your own.

>>22145364
Vegans still miss meat but health and / or moral reasons forego it. This however tastes arguably better than meat raw. I keep eating these little pate-wiches, just as obsessed over them as I was over cheeseburgers.

>>22145378
Cooked, this doesn't taste that good. It passes but is vaguely "not meat".

>>22145364
I like the veggie burgers that didn't try to mimic meat so much too. Boca burgers were good but less stores are carrying them now and it's just mostly Impossible/Beyond stuff.

>>22145378
>Vegans still miss meat
Some of them do, but some people also just seem to genuinely dislike meat and even before going vegan would not want to eat it very often.

How about you vegans put your money where your mouth is and eat vegetables instead of constantly trying to make things that taste slightly like meat?

>>22145391
This tastes so good though. I'm guiltlessly partying on the pâté,

>>22145391
I don't know why so many people think this is some kind of gotcha argument. Some vegans aren't against meat itself but just the way animals are treated. And there are still vegans who won't eat things like this.

>>22145364
same reason why ketos keep buying "keto" bread. you make a sudden change in your diet and still crave the old food

>>22145351
>pâté
What are you a cat? Is this shit cat food? Is that what they call their "ground beef"?

>>22145392
No, Beyond Meat or whatever fucking sucks. The taste is noticeable

>>22145399
Well I try to buy meat and eggs that doesn't seem like the chicken got pumped full of hormones and lived a horrible life but at some point you've gotta just eat food, dude. Drop the label and just eat food, my God

>>22145431
>What are you a cat? Is this shit cat food?
are you? why do you not know what pâté is?
go post about fast food instead

>>22145437
Problem with animal food is worms get into your brain and stop you from thinking good. This is like G-d's handicap for being a bad shepherd. Can't get access to the higher faculties and do complicated mindwork.

>>22145459
I'm American and most of the time when I see the word pate it's to describe smooth wet cat food for some reason. Fancier restaurants and people more familiar with French cooking will still use the word but it's not that common for the average American.

>>22145494
The heat from the rice cooks the worms

>>22145391
this

I love eating animals and I love eating vegetables

Some more tips:

Quesada burritos are a vegan option, go sauceless but the saucy tofu is vegan too so add double of that. Just no extra sauce.

A&W has beyond beef burgers, nix the mayo (and the pickle IMO.) Add vegan mayo at home.

Tofu teriyaki is amazing, find it at a good sushi restaurant, but omit the miso soup since that's pork broth.

Vegan mayo packets are another untapped industry. I don't see anything there.

>>22145511
>miso soup since that's pork broth.
miso is usually fish broth, ramen is pork

>>22145512
Veganaise is actually better than regular mayonnaise. Just my opinion.

Plant based ground what?
Ground is an adjective

>>22145531
Bunch of chemicals are better than just eating vegetables to them

>>22145529
miso is fermented koji, dashi is fish broth

>>22145535
>miso (soup) is usually fish broth

>>22145546
i stand corrected

>>22145548
i forgive you

>>22145378
Meat is not unhealthy. Just say you are a fat piece of shit trying to lose weight.

>>22145391
i disapprove of factory farming
however, meat and dairy tastes good
these are conflicting, but not contradictory things
if a suitable substitute exists (emphasis on "if"), i will eat it; in other words, if i can have my cake and eat it too then i will
this also doesn't stop me from eating vegetables too
i don't see why people feel the need to make things unnecessarily black and white
what you're actually mad at are the endless bad clickbait recipes optimized for looking like meat in a video that no one actually makes or eats

Look, the vegan diet keeps me in twink shape and it's incredibly bottom friendly

>>22145531
Simili-boeuf haché a base de plantes, obviously.

>>22145351
Shit is fucking vile. Smells like ammonia after cooking it.

>>22145378
>health and / or moral reasons
there is zero health benefit to quitting meat.
morality dictates that since the animal is going to be slaughtered anyway, an individual protest against the industry only means the vegan is ok with an animal dying in vain while also making exactly zero impact.

vegans are legitimately fucking retarded because they base their decisions off feels instead of reals.
they'd think better if they ate a fucking burger.

>>22145459
>why do you not know what pâté is?
pate is cat food, anon.

>>22145351
BASED! BASED! BASED! Cant wait till we put cattle ranchers out of build. Dutton ranch? More like Suck On This Ranch

Vegans ruin absolutely everything.

>>22145942
pate existed as food for people before they started calling certain types of cat food that

>>22145731
Factory farming really sucks but we've got to eat, dude. If the slaughter grosses you out then be an actual vegan, I'm sick of the vegans who still want to eat meat.

>>22145939
literal ass opposite advice
burgers give you brain worms that make you think like thick shit. Can't code worth a crap after that.

>>22145530
*nod*, tastewise I'd say at least the Hellman version is slightly worse but the no-guilt and no-future-pathogen angle make it superior.

Also the no-random-people-dying-in-the-news bit.

Yeah low veganism is pretty interesting for timeline management.

>>22145939
>morality dictates that since the animal is going to be slaughtered anyway, an individual protest against the industry only means the vegan is ok with an animal dying in vain while also making exactly zero impact.
If you buy the meat then they profit and have incentive to do it again. Do you think they would really keep doing it if nobody bought meat anymore?

>>22145530
I want to try it because I'm not vegan but I just don't really like eggs and even in mayo I can still taste it and smell it to the point where it's unpleasant.

>>22145987
I don't even like mayonnaise, it's disgusting, but veganaise is alright

I'm extremely lazy. Basically all I eat now is 100g dry roasted edamame early in the morning for the macros and then whatever else I want for the rest of the day.

> 430 cals
>47g protein
>33g carbs
>13g fat
>20g fiber
>cheap as fuck and shelf stable

What more do you need? Buy frozen unshelled edamame for variety.

>>22145999
>edamame

Checked.

Soybeans are high in phytoestrogens though. Otherwise not bad.

>>22145351
>parasite risk
Third
World
Shithole

>>22146033
Anyone that eats meat and drinks milk is picking them up.

>>22146033
Pasteurization isn't perfect, and it takes years to really notice.

>>22145704
I'm not that fat, and the veganism is more about mental clarity. I need to code heavy handed shid, can't be sitting around with roundworms blocking my mind.

Oh, my antiparasitic stack.

Black walnut hull / wormwood / cloves. Occasional Colloidal Silver 40mg one shotglass's worth, and occasionally spike them with DMSO.

Mind's clear as a bell. I'm going to quantum harden a Solana fork now.

>>22146123
>40mg
40 ppm I mean.

>>22145351
how much does it cost there? Where I'm at only the mince and patties are available and cost over 20€/kg, real hard to imagine it's worth the cost.

>>22146252
6-8 Euros for 340g

I take it like a mid-level gourmet food.

>>22145958
do you not understand the distinction between "finding something morally wrong" and "finding something gross"?
i ask this sincerely, there are a concerning number of people that aren't actually able to make the distinction

>>22146419
Well we have to eat. I lived at a farm for a while and had to wake up to chickens laying eggs. It's louder than you think and they were free range. It's the big titty chickens where I'm like this isn't natural at all. Then there's the "organic" shit where you can tell they just trimmed it to make it look like the chicken was organic. The whole thing is a farce.

If you're going to go vegan, go vegan. Chopping down plants when they go out of season sucks too. Living things die, go figure.

>>22146565
>If you're going to go vegan, go vegan
And if you go vegan, you also have to follow arbitrary rules that I set on how to do it properly or else it upsets me

>>22146045
>>22146047
just take ivermectin

>>22146571
Just don't make it your identity. Not eating animal products is perfectly fine and no one would care if they would shut the fuck up about it. I've been unintentionally vegan at a time, it is kind of cheap

>>22146610
It's fun to mention to loved ones. Gives moral authoritah.

You can bum around more if you're vegan; people expect less of you subconsciously.

Big vegan milk hack: Sproud barista pea milk.

Tastes better than cow milk (!)

Get from Amazon. Super shelf-stable, don't even need to fridge it before it's used up.

>>22146865
I only like the idea of a barista peeing in my milk because I'm imagining her as a goth mommy, but I realize in real life it would actually be some gay guy that dresses like a woman so there's a good chance it would give me some sort of disease.

>>22145378
That shit is not pasteurized and is incredibly high moisture content/water activity. The protein extrudate can still contain fungal spores as they can to some extent survive the extrusion process. Their manufacturing plant in PA was riddled with health code violations. These things routinely fail micro testing due to high coliform. All micro testing was performed by Eurofins

>t. former analytical chemist at that shit company

>>22145391
>more vegans every year
>declining profits for Fake Meat every year
Ummm... done?

>>22145351
are you saying to eat it raw, apparently you aren't supposed to

>>22148219
Then why are they still making fake meat if it's not making money?

>>22148418
Sunk cost fallacy.

>We've invested so much in this product, it'll all be wasted if we give up instead of trying again!

>>22148424
Then just stop making it

>>22148431
>We've invested so much in this product, it'll all be wasted if we give up instead of trying again!

>>22148418
because they're hoping to expand the market, vegans were never the target audience bc we're few and far between.

>>22146006
>Soybeans are high in phytoestrogens though
Humans don't metabolize plant-derived estrogen
They do metabolize mammalian estrogen though so you should go easy on the cow titty juice

>>22148848
Then why is every male vegan such a feminine fag, but cow titty juice drinking mongols and farm boys are so masculine?

>>22148848
I feel like some of the fearmongering about it is overblown but there are also some studies showing that people who consume a lot of soy regularly can end up having hormonal issues. It also affects people who work with hops because there are phytoestrogens that can be absorbed through the skin.

It still seems like there are outliers like people were drinking a lot of soy milk every day rather than eating a bit of soy in an otherwise normal diet. But to say there is completely zero effect from soy on hormones doesn't seem accurate.

>>22145351
Mmmmm paste slop

>>22147911
yeah all of their marketing recipe shit repeats the always cook it to 165F very well done like it's the 1950s FDA trying to prevent trichinosis from pork

>>22148898
It's pea protein. Low estrogen.

>>22147911
I'm going to GPT deep research this. Coliform in plant processed food doesn't sound right.

Another vegan-ish tip, How to eat Weetabix:

Need weetabix, milk (substitute,) scissors, two bowls.

Cut the weetabix into fourths, put in one bowl, milk to the top in another bowl. Dip one at a time.

No more wheat slop. Enjoy texture.

>>22147911
The concern passes, but not for coliform. Much lower risk than with regular meat but there's still risk.

Must heat it to 165 F internal for 5 minutes. That's not enough to dry it out, it'll be nice and warm and pâté-ish still.

>>22145437
>but at some point you've gotta just eat food, dude.
No, you don't. You have an endless variety of vegetables, rice, pasta, tofu, and eggs+cheese+milk if you're not vegan but just vegetarian. You want to eat animals, fine, but you're not "forced" to.

>>22145939
They scale up (or down) operations in response to demand. Meat industry is one of the few areas where a singular solitary protest actually does have quantifiable impact (albeit small).

>>22146124
Too late we are injecting 40CCs of high octane silver into your ass