It seemed like 10 years ago everyone and their brother was rushing to open up a micro brewery and craft beer interest was at a all time high. Is that dying out now?
Everybody just on they screens
Everybody is hooked on opioids or crazy pills, so they can't drink. And zoomers just don't drink
>>22189085The craft brew boom hit oversaturation like a decade ago, man, and it's been in decline since like 2019. COVID killed tons of breweries but they would have been doomed anyway, there was simply too much samey stuff everywhere. That was followed with a minor revival of macro swill such as Michelob, Busch and Natty, which has also already ended.By and large people stopped caring for gimmick breweries and autistic offerings, the independent ones that have survived have a pretty varied menu, but one that only includes beers they feel are bang up jobs. Most people would rather visit a cozy brewery with really good food and just 10-or-less spectacular beers on tap than some place offering a shitty version of everyone else's beer and Farm Rich appetizers covered in cheez whiz.>>22189106>zoomers just don't drinkBut why is this? Society still venerates alcohol and alcohol consumption as it always did, and it isn't as if all zoomers are junkie faggots, most of them simply do boring shit like drink Monster and snus... But why?
>>22189120this. COVID was the big killer but the fad was in decline before that. the girl i was with at the time, and her family, were brewery fags so i wound up getting dragged to a lot of them and by 2019 they were starting to close up even here in socal. it was all the same thing. five overpriced beers and two sad microwaved plates being served in the back room of their brew warehouse.
>>22189095Funny enough, alcohol sells the most during the highs and lows of an economy. It's the middle of the road that kills it
>>22189091Imagine if there were Screens in the late 19th, early 20th century.
>>22189120Money, fabricated social interaction through social media, health
Zoomers are little faggots who are scared of everything so they don't drink
>ALCOHOL SALES ARE COLLAPSINGYeah because everyone I know would rather go buy 1 or 2 bottles of liquor at the store and be good for the entire weekend at home vs. going to the bar and buying 5 pints for 35 dollars+tip!!!!1 + uber + getting cut off at 6 drinks because some dump arbitrary limit many places have enacted.Most everyone I know is down for just doing simple drinks like vodka cranberry/rum and coke/etc. I can't recall the last time I was with friends drinking and they ordered anything 'complex'.
I drink at home because I'm not gonna pay $40 just to get buzzed.
Because the average bar exp in the US is dogshit:>uber to bar, maybe walk if you're lucky>10-15 dllars>Get to the bar order a beer if lucky you got there for happy hour right after work >shittiest beer for 6bucks minimum, wells maybe 7, anything else is going to be 8 bucks minimum>crowded ass bullshit with always a bunch of boomers shitting up any conversation>bar tender is a coin toss on if they give a shit about you or would rather milk the old boomer whales that show up>shittiest pop music playing about we wuz n shit>as the bar fills up harder and harder to get a drink, when you get it the thing is rushed and mid>try to flirt with any girls is social landmine experiences that could get you kicked out of the bar or just ruin the night>time to tab out>5 drinks 40-50 dollars realize 18% tip already included :) bringing the bill up to like 60, with another tip option below>grab an uber home but because you're in a hotzone you get jacked up prices>almost 100 dollars for a middling 4-5 hour noise and vape filled shithole>fire up phone to scroll on the way home>"WHY THE H*CK AREN'T KIDS THESE DAYS BUYING HOUSES!?!?!"
Booze makes you old.
>>22189120COVID had an affect sure but it's been like what 4sh years since everything opened back up? I think more people just switched to weed/vapes over booze
>>22189120>But why is this? Society still venerates alcohol and alcohol consumption as it always did, and it isn't as if all zoomers are junkie faggots, most of them simply do boring shit like drink Monster and snus... But why?I've been wondering the same. Given how conservative Gen Z is you would think they would see the binge drinking by Kash Patel & friends and see getting wasted as le good thing but it's almost the opposite. Being visibly tipsy makes you public enemy no 1..I have to wonder if the tobacco industry is behind this, considering how nicotine is back in style with zyns.>>22189095If only beer hadn't gotten so damn expensive. I don't drink Bud or Miller for the taste, yet the prices for 24 packs is approaching memebrewery levels ca 2018.>>22189337>I can't recall the last time I was with friends drinking and they ordered anything 'complex'.Or god forbid an aperol spritz. Of course, the bartenders expect the exact same tip even though they only take 10 seconds to prepare it....>>22189142Even the wineries are taking a major haircut. One of my college buddies bought a winery a couple years ago because it was his lifelong dream. Things really aren't going well for him lol.
>>22189106zoomers don't drink because they don't talk to each other except on the internet. alcohol is a social drug and zoomers don't leave their rooms.
>>22189384>Given how conservative Gen Z isFanfiction>>22189120>>22189395Zoomers don't drink because there are cameras everywhere and social climbers who want to embarrass you.
>>22189399every zoomer I know just sits in their house smoking a cart or doing dabs the entire time they aren't at work, and half of them hit carts all day long AT work. they don't drink because they are already THC junkies. It's funny we thought legalizing weed was going to be some great benefit to our society but all it did was make our dumbest generation in history even more worthless. There are zoomers I know who will literally have a mental breakdown if they haven't had THC for like 6 hours.
I don't know about zoomers, but I'm a tee-totaling millennial who's just not interested. In high school when I was trying hard, maybe.
>>22189399>FanfictionYounger Gen Z men are consistently voting republican. Older Gen Z is more liberal but youngers have a massive skew towards Trump.
>>22189423Voters aged 18-24 had a majority vote for Harris. Gen Zyklon isn't real. You are addicted to false realities on the internet.
>>22189423younger Gen z men sat in their houses for multiple of their formative years being brainwashed by tiktok during covid. probably the first American generation to be subject to literal, prolonged media brainwashing.
>>22189085I almost never drink at home. Really just not my thing and never was going to be. It’s a social thing and social events themselves are too fucking expensive. The $20 beer you have to buy there isn’t even as big a deal as the ridiculous ass tickets, food prices, parking gouge, and the lack of organization/security.If I can’t go out and cheaply drink with other people then fuck it. I have noticed microbrewery prices being really cheap in my area though on the off times I actually do drink. I think I got a six pack of one for maybe $8.99 a couple weeks ago. I thought that seemed low for inflation hell world. Not gonna get me to buy more beer but it was noticeable.
>since 6th grade at school>Don't do drugs or alcohol u will become homeless and a shit person from 1 beer or 1 joint>Don't have sex till you know you love someone look at all these STDs, pregnant at 20's is super duper le bad>have this till I graduate>boomers: WHY THE FUCK AREN'T GENZ DRINKING OR HAVING SEX?!??!
>>22189404>There are zoomers I know who will literally have a mental breakdown if they haven't had THC for like 6 hours.there are alcoholics who will literally die from withdrawal lol. you can say being addicted to weed or nicotine isn't good but it's still remarkably less harmful than being an alcoholic.
>>22189358Good. I'm speedrunning
>>22189423>Younger Gen Z men are consistently voting republican.and then someone else will say most young gen z men are wiggers fucking each other in the ass
>>22189609OK that wasn't even relative to what I said but ok. heroin is bad too. don't snort cocaine every day. idk what your point is.
>>22189085>alcohol's way too expensive everywhere>weed is much easier to get, stronger than its ever been and still really cheap. >MDMA is becoming the most popular drug overallBasically is what's happening. Why spend $70 on a bottle of rum and $50 on a case of beer for a weekend, when I can buy $130 of weed and itll last me 2 months instead.
>>22189085I think alot of points in this thread are valid, but here's a couple things I haven't seen mentioned. Im 31.>Parents not allowing their children to drink when they reach drinking age. On my 21st birthday, if I drank, I would of been kicked out of my house and left homeless. This is in a non religious household with a family of drinkers.>job market is much smaller. Back in the day my dad had a criminal record of many crimes, including stealing opiates from hospitals, with no problem being employed in hospitals. A DUI now can lock you out of any job for as long as its on your record.>more young people are on medication you aren't supposed to mix with alcohol.
>>22189674>OK that wasn't even relative to what I saidyeah it is. you say weed only made things worse and talk about withdrawal symptoms. i countered that by saying people get sick and die from their alcohol addiction which doesn't seem to happen with weed and maybe it's not ideal but less people dying from addiction is still an overall benefit.
>>22189781In terms of cost weed/edibles are hard to beat if you're looking to disconnect after a week of work. When I lived in PHX, I could go get 3 packs of 100mg gummies for like 25 bucks. That shit would have be cut out for 2-3 weeks with the only negative being I got munchies but I got that anyways with booze. 25 bucks in liquor got me maybe a liter of Sailor Jerries rum that was good for a night and a drink or two the following day.If it wasn't for the fact weed seriously recks my gym routine out(which apparently is because the strands I was taking but idk) I'd go back to it in a heartbeat.
>>22189612The problem is that people don't realize the Republicans are the wigger party and indeed always have been. In a reckless desire to feel some belonging many people have signed themselves over to be partisans for the party that worships niggers: the GOP.
>>22189804so young z men are all voting republican because they're far-right homosexual wiggers
>>22189790Look at this broccoli head getting xer noodle-arms in a twist about somebody who thinks weed isn't good.
>>22189829i said everyone smoking weed all the time isn't ideal. that means i don't think it's all good either. i just think it's better than people dying of alcoholism. you're dumb. learn to read gooder.
>>22189846You're getting confused. I think it's all that weed you're smoking. Probably just dude weed lmao until your mother makes you something to eat.
>>22189857i don't smoke weed
>>22189863Oh OK you're just generally slow. Sorry.
>>22189870you're the one who didn't understand me saying that smoking weed isn't great lol but go on. i hope this is helping you feel better. i hope you don't have any problems with your butthole.
>>22189829reading comprehension needs some improvement>xerthis is worse than drug addiction imho
>>22189085Now post weed sales. Weed somehow got cheaper and better over the years. You can get stuff just as good at your average shop than going all the way to the native reserves.
>>22189095Yeah that's why the average millennial spends $100 a week on take-out
>>22189920We do?
>>22189085Many people drink less due to health reasons as part of a general macro trend towards a healthier lifestyle, especially the younger gen. It affects all kinds of booze. Beer isn't doing so bad compared to wine, since ok alc free beers exist. Some local wineries are in panic mode since they slept on the alc free trend.Drinking in current zeitgeist is mostly associate with (male) misbehaviour and most younger folk does not want to participate in that. Same reason why music festivals are dying.Shooting beers through a funnel on the camp ground before stumbling shirtless to a gig isn't a thing the younger generation is interested in. The only way to enjoy a festival with camping is being drunk all the time tho so theres that.
i absolutely love drinking and would like to continue but I was having horrible health effects and my life was in shambles, yes this could be considered a personal character flaw and all of that but all the same I could not continue. If it did not destroy your life in huge quantities it would still be selling well.
>>22190082I was the opposite, my life was normal and I didn't have any adverse effects on my health. I just had this insatiable appetite to do more and more and keep things going until the bitter end. Nothing was ever enough. I saw through the hollowness of it all eventually, but it was sheer desperation at times.
>glass of vodka and some lemon>7 euros at best>bottle of distilled vodka at super market>12 eurosGet hammered with friends at my place while gaming then go outside and order a cheap beer,there
>>22189085>legalize weed>destroy socialisinghmm how could this happen
More beer for me then
>>22189085Breweries are definitely struggling, but the weed drinks help them a ton. I know so many 30+ year olds (including myself) who cut way back or entirely on drinking and switched to weed. I still love beer and always have some in the fridge but one 12 pack will easily last me a week vs just a few years ago I would crush a 24 pack in a week or less
This is why the alcohol industry got legal weed banned in texas
>>22189423Not anymore
>>22190474governor veoted it, which really just means the weed lobbyists paid him off
>>22190682No, it's because it was wildly unpopular with everyone outside the ultra conservative boomers
>>22190682The vast majority of the US wants to legalize weed. Politicians against it are fucking retards and will never climb higher than local office
>>22190870I'm all for legalizing weed I just wish they'd add some more restrictions on it than treating it basically the same as someone smoking a pack of cigs. I really, really, fucking hate the permeating smell of that shit on the street or right outside a building followed by some weed bro who's logic is "bro it's not harmful like cigs". They should treat is akin to drinking in public.
>>22190682>>22190870he got paid off. dan patrick, the lt. governor and a stereotypical 80 IQ boomer evangelical, was the one pushing the hardest for the weed ban. and it's already well-known he has connections to the liquor industry. abbott also agrees with him on most issues. there's really no other explanation for him vetoing it other than being paid off.
>>22190875ditto thishere, in northrend, they banned selling cigs in 10-packs, a 20-pack is roughly $15, and all tobacco packets have the same boring olive green design+ there's a state monopoly on selling bottles of alcohol stronger than ~7%i want a weed monopoly to open up during my life time
>>22190875It pretty much is treated like drinking in public. I don't live in a legit city though so the people in my town are more polite I guess and do it in the privacy of their home or out in nature on a hike and whatnot
>>22190907>It pretty much is treated like drinking in public.Where the fuck are you from? Everywhere I go people don't give a flying fuck in the USA about weed. Some dude having a 40 or beer outside WHOA BRUDDA here's your citation!
>>22190926Minnesota. It's illegal to drive and smoke, all parks ban it, you cant do it within like a mile or something from a school. Honestly the only time I see people just smoking out in public is when I go to Minneapolis or St Paul. Even then it's about as common as a cigarette which ain't very common anymore
>>22190937I live in Fargo/Moorehead, no one ever pays attention to that.
>>22190940Well no shit that's a college town bud. If I went to dinky town I'd see a million drunk and high retards every night
>>22189384>the binge drinking by Kash Patel & friends and see getting wasted as le goodshut the fuck up
>>22189120I don't drink because alcohol taste like shit 99% of the time, not helped by the many health risks it can bring to the liver. I can tolerate a sip of wine and heavily diluted with a non-alcoholic drink, but that's it.
>>22190320no public transit
>>22191423bro good wine is fucking deliciousbe you, justsayin
